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00:00So there is a pastor by the name of Otha Turnbull, hopefully I'm pronouncing that correctly, from
00:08Lionheart Church, okay? Some of his clips have been going viral recently, and I wanted to check
00:15it out with you guys because I think this discussion that he has on this podcast called
00:19We Need to Talk is just absolutely amazing, okay? This, it's a little bit longer, okay? Full
00:26disclosure, it's a little bit longer, we probably, the actual video that I want to show
00:30you, it's probably 10 to 15 minutes long, but the discussion, I mean, it's two parts, it's
00:35like three hours long, I'll leave, matter of fact, I'll throw it up on the screen so you
00:40guys can actually see the actual podcast that it comes from, so you see it there on your
00:45screen, pause if you need to, We Need to Talk on YouTube, alright? We Need to Talk. This
00:50is part two that we're going to be checking out, okay? So you guys know where to go to
00:56watch the whole thing in its entirety, but obviously we're not about to sit here for
01:01three hours watching the whole thing, okay? So with that being said, let's hop into it.
01:07So you're trying to say that there's something that God is trying to do in this season, so
01:12him being in place is purposeful for his purpose. Yeah, because the main thing, Ezekiel, there
01:19are two things that Donald Trump is doing. Number one, he's judging evil. If you look at what
01:25he's coming against, it all is in the category of evil. The man just pulled Venezuela out of
01:31here, because why? Because it's overwhelming proof that he in cahoots with the drug dealers.
01:35Every time you see a cartel movie, the government always in cahoots with the drug dealers. Then
01:38he freed 800 passers. Why did he go to Nigeria? Because the terrorists were killing. Why did
01:45he bomb Iran? Because Iran said that they were going to create a nuclear bomb and kill Israel
01:49and the United States. So we're supposed to just let it happen? When you look at who he goes
01:52after, he goes after the drug dealers. He goes after the predators. He goes after the
01:56abort. You ready for this one? This is for your deeper audience. Come on. Let me tell you
02:02something. When I knew this man was being used by God in his first term. I don't know if
02:07you remember this, the witches, the warlocks and the abortionists all came together. And
02:11this is what they said. I quote, we are asking everyone in the United States to join us on Facebook
02:17Live as we cast curses on the president of the United States and all who support him.
02:23It was a Facebook Live. It was nationwide. I told my wife, I said, let's see how stupid
02:29the preachers are on this one. Because last time I checked, Jesus said Satan will never
02:33attack his own. That's what Jesus said. And Jesus ain't never wrong. So if he said Satan
02:39will never cast out Satan, he will never attack his own. And then the people who represent
02:44Satan are attacking Trump. And then somewhere you got to ask the question is, well, maybe
02:48this Trump man is not a Satan. Oh my gosh. See, but they don't think like that. They don't
02:52know how to think. They just go with their emotions and they go with their arrogance and
02:56their pride. Everybody thinks that they know what they're talking about. So, I mean, even
03:00if you don't even want to look at it from a biblical perspective, I mean, why would you attack
03:05your own, right? If Trump was really a part of them, if he was really in cahoots with the
03:11elites, why would they go after him? Why would they try to bury this man under the jail for
03:17a hundred years? Why would they send a bullet in this man's direction? Why would they throw
03:21everything, including the kitchen sink at this man if he was on their side? Doesn't make any
03:29sense, right? Doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't. You would never attack your own. You would
03:36only go after somebody who you deemed was a threat, who was against what it is that you're
03:43trying to do. Just saying. I'm just saying. He's a threat to the people in power.
03:53They don't want him to discover things. They don't want him to know everything. And maybe
03:57he won't discover everything. As a matter of fact, I know he won't discover everything.
04:03You think they just left it all out in the open for him to just find? No, of course not.
04:10They're all working together. They all hit all the, you know, they, they, they've hit everything
04:14as best as the, as best as they possibly could. Right? So when, when, when, when Cash Patel
04:20and Dan Bagino go into the FBI and they, they, they don't give us the answers that we would
04:26have liked. Okay. I pause for a minute. I pause for a minute and I say, Hmm, if I was
04:35in their shoes, would I lie about it? Or would I tell the truth and just say, yo, we just
04:40don't, there's nothing here. And if I did, why would there be nothing there? Well, the
04:48last administration did have four years to get rid of everything. And even beyond that,
04:54even if you want to say, well, no, they didn't destroy everything over the four years. Well,
04:57they had months, right? The election was in November. They found out Trump won in November.
05:03He wasn't inaugurated until the next year. Right? So you had all that time. Oh, Trump's coming in
05:09office. Get rid of everything. Just logically, like that would be the thing. If I was one of them
05:19and I was doing some dirty work, if I was doing some things that I shouldn't have been doing,
05:23why would I just leave it there for the next person to come in and find you're not, you're
05:31not. It's just common sense. I'm getting rid of everything. I'm getting rid of everything. At
05:38least everything that incriminates me. So when you come in and you see, uh, well, I mean, we got
05:43some evidence here, but it's not evidence against the people that you thought it was going to go,
05:48going to be against. That makes sense to me. Y'all can let me know in the comments if it
05:55makes sense
05:55to you, but let's carry on. Cause this is a long clip. So my, my, my, my test is, oh,
06:03well,
06:03let's see if you really know what you're talking about. Let's visit your address.
06:07Are you living paycheck to paycheck? You're still doing stupid stuff with your body. You're still
06:15happy. Can your children even quote the books of the Bible? No, you didn't, then you don't know
06:20what you're talking about. You don't. Everybody thinks they do. So, and then they get mad.
06:26But half the people in the United States got demons. Ah, man, we just all over the place. You
06:34can cut this however you want to. This is a true story. And president Trump's first term,
06:41I said something about him that he did. There was a first time visitor in the audience
06:46and right in front of the whole church, he challenged me, sir, that's not right. What you
06:51just said is a lie, sir. Um, no, you're out of order, sir. So I just paused for a moment
06:56because
06:56he challenged me in front of the whole congregation. And so I realized that I had to, I had to
07:01preach,
07:02but also deal with the spirit at the same time. I told the congregation, I said, isn't it interesting
07:06how everybody is an expert today on everything? Boom, boom. So I went through the whole thing
07:10at the end of the service, the man calmly walked up to the altar, got on his knees and screamed
07:16as demons came out of him. Because when the man spoke, it wasn't him. It was the creature
07:22in him. They can't stand Trump. But see, you know what? These people in these pulpits, they
07:27don't cast out demons. So they don't know that the devils came. You know, I had a conversation
07:32with somebody probably three weeks ago, two weeks ago, maybe. And you know, that same
07:40incident didn't happen. No, not like that. But like the knee jerk, like you say something
07:46about Trump and it's like a knee jerk reaction for them to like, try to refute it, like to
07:51say something against it. And that's what this individual did. And then when I called them
07:56out on it and asked them to explain like why they thought that, why they believe that they
08:01couldn't, they couldn't, they froze. They got quiet. And I was like, hold on, wait, wait
08:07a minute. You were just so confident a second ago. I don't even remember exactly what it is
08:10that I said or what they refuted, but it was something I said about Trump. And it was like,
08:16like an instant, like instantly, like they said something negative and like, oh no, he didn't
08:22do that or whatever. Something, something like that. I'm like, hold on. How would you know?
08:26How do you know? Can you prove that? Like I asked him something along those lines.
08:31I can't remember the exact conversation. Maybe, maybe one of these days it'll come back to
08:34me, but they could, they couldn't prove anything. They had nothing to say after that. It was
08:40just quiet. I just found that interesting that he, that he brought up a situation like that
08:45where somebody like instantly, they had to say something against Trump. And I find that
08:51so strange, so weird, right? Whenever you say anything positive about Trump in front of
08:57some of these individuals, it's like a, like they have to say something negative. They
09:02have to try to refute it. They have to try to shoot it down. It's like within them, like
09:07they have to do it. It's so weird. I've seen it. I've seen it. I had an experience like
09:12that. The guy, the, the, the, the, the, the guy couldn't even say anything back after
09:15that. What I, what I, what I, what I'm trying to ask him to prove it. Like just nothing
09:18quiet, quiet, just shaking a head. It was, it's so strange, man. It's so strange. Y'all
09:28let me know if you've ever had a situation like that happen where somebody just refuted
09:32something that you said about Trump and then you asked them to like explain or to prove
09:36it. And they had nothing to say. They had nothing to say. Or if they did have something
09:41to say, it was something like super ignorant, like I F Trump, you know, like something that
09:46had nothing to do with what you were asking them to explain. Let me know in the comments
09:51stand Trump. They can't stand him because the man is fighting the Lord. Uh, it's a crazy
09:58thing when demons tell you God is using that man to fight against what we established. That's
10:03facts. They're not going to believe that either until I put them in a room with a demon.
10:09Do whatever. So, so, so again,
10:16you see all of these different patterns. So people, people, it's so funny that evil is allowed
10:23to reign and flourish. Hmm. But as soon as righteousness steps up to put that in check,
10:28all of a sudden now, Oh no, righteousness is being too strong. No, you can't be weak when
10:32it come to evil. Come on. You got to punch it in the eye, cut off his neck and then
10:36drink
10:36his blood and spit it back in his eye. That's what you got to do with evil. And so, and
10:41Trump
10:41is not a politician. He's a businessman. This is what a politician politician does. Is it
10:45is broke? Yeah. How much did it cost to fix it? 10 grand? Do we have the money? Yes. How's
10:50it going to make me look if we fix it? That's a politician. It's a businessman. It's broke.
10:56Yeah. How come y'all didn't fix it? We didn't know if he wanted to be fixed. Do we have
10:59the
10:59money? Yes. Then fix it. That's a Donald Trump. He's just a fixer. If you, if you actually study
11:06him carefully, every move he comes up with, they talk about him like a dog and then it
11:11works. Facts. Every person that attacks him falls. They talked about him with the tears.
11:17Not a man that's talking about us not having to pay taxes because the tears are working
11:21so well. I'm just, see, I mean, literally everything this man says, everything Trump says,
11:30lame stream media and Democrats try to spin it in a negative light. Whatever he says is bad,
11:36whatever he does is bad, everything. Oh, tariffs bad. Oh, Trump wants to do that bad. Oh, he
11:42wanted bad. He want to do that bad. Like everything under the sun, everything, everything. Yeah. Have
11:51y'all caught on to that? Have y'all noticed that literally everything he says or does, it's the
11:57end of the world. It's world war three. It's, it's, it's, it's a dictator. He's a dictator in
12:03the making. Like they used to say that he was, he, he, he, he was, he was, uh, uh, cozying
12:07up to
12:08Maduro. Then he wouldn't capture Maduro. Then he wouldn't capture Maduro. Got him, got, got him in
12:17prison, right? Got him in jail, putting him on trial. And now they're advocating to have Maduro
12:23released. I mean, literally whatever this man does, they, they, they, they have something
12:34negative to say about it. One minute he's closing up to Maduro and the next minute he's being too
12:40mean to Maduro. Free Maduro, free Maduro. Hold on. I thought y'all were just protesting.
12:51No Kings. Like y'all don't like dictators. Ain't Maduro a dictator. I thought y'all didn't like
12:55those. But since Trump captured the dictator, now y'all love them. Hey, I posted a YouTube
13:05short the other day of, uh, uh, individual talking about how, uh, Trump should come out
13:12and say, Hey, we will expedite citizenship for any illegal who vows to vote Republican
13:21in the next election. I was like, yo, Trump should do that because instantly overnight Democrats
13:31would be going after illegals with, with, with, with the type of aggression you have
13:36never seen before. If Trump came out and said, Hey, listen, I got a deal for all the
13:41illegals. If y'all vow to vote Republican in this next election, I will make sure that
13:47you have your citizenship. Democrats heads would explode. Oh, we got to deport the illegals.
13:55We got to deport the illegals. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. We got to deport
13:58the illegals because of Trump. All of a sudden they would love deportations. Ice would be
14:06their best friend. They'd be, they, they, they'd be on the sidewalks with, with, with hand
14:10warmers and lemonade for ice. Peanut butter, jelly sandwiches all lined up. Nice. Oh man.
14:19They, they, they would be in love with ice overnight. And that's facts. It's facts.
14:27I study it and I read and I asked the Lord. And again, simply the Lord said, that's my
14:31man for the hour. Taxes because the terrorists are working so well. I'm just, see, I study
14:39it and I read and I asked the Lord. And again, simply the Lord said, that's my man for the
14:43hour. And people never liked the man because they want, the Christians want the man to be
14:47religious. And the sinners want the man to be on the dark side. So he can keep on doing
14:52their drugs and all of the lewd stuff and kidnapping children, all that type of stuff. And this
14:55man brought a hammer against everybody's mouth. Even CNN said to Trump, why are you protecting
15:06the Christians so much? Yo, yo. These dudes don't even know what this man has done to protect
15:13Christians. He trying to put prayer back in school. That's not something Lucifer would
15:17do. He told every American they should have a Bible. He told every American, I need y'all to
15:20pray for an hour a week. They have Pete Hexeth, who is the secretary of war, is the one who
15:27does a Bible study with Franklin Graham in the Pentagon once a month with a worship service.
15:30I know that because two of my pastor friends up there letting them speak in tongues, lift
15:34hands and everything. I show pictures of all the members of the Pentagon with their hands
15:37lift and worshiping the Lord. So you're telling me that's what evil does? That's what you're
15:42telling me. Whatever. The man's mentor is Franklin Graham. He sat out of his mouth in a
15:49meeting. Yeah, Franklin Graham told me I need to stop using profanity. He said, I'm doing
15:52all right, but I just need to stop cussing. Well, I appreciate you telling me the truth
15:56that Franklin Graham is our mentor. But see, the Christians want him to be a prophet.
16:03We're going to start these White House proceedings, and we're going to talk about what we're doing
16:07in Iran. That's what they want him to be. I know I'm out of order. I don't care. I just
16:15don't care because these dudes can't do nothing to me. Let me tell you something. It's a dangerous
16:21thing to attack me. It's very dangerous to attack me because I don't have to defend myself.
16:26But I want you to think about that. Did you know that the previous administration had
16:30mandated that not one church could get a loan?
16:33It's true.
16:36I know that because the man that owned the building that he gave me, two bankers came to
16:41him because the other bank tried to cash in the loan because of what the government
16:44did. He said, it's illegal. Said, doesn't matter. The government is allowing us to do
16:48it. They told him to his face. The bank manager told him, he said, sir, your credit is stellar.
16:54You've never been late. But if I give you a loan for $300, I'll lose my job because it's
16:58been mandated that you cannot help churches. And I watched the bank try to blackmail this
17:03pastor because of what was coming straight from the White House. Donald Trump got in office.
17:07That's why before the man got in office, this is what he said. Donald Trump said this.
17:12And I quote, this thing of treating Christians as second class citizens is going to stop when
17:18I get in office day one. But he's Satan because he trying to protect you over here. But you
17:23so caught up in black race that you can't recognize this man is trying to help the Christian race.
17:27That's what you're going to tell me. We got to talk about that before my last point.
17:30Yeah, I don't know if you want me to hit that one. Yeah. Let's talk about that one because
17:37to hear you talking like that, most pro-black Christians will say, okay, that's coon talk.
17:46That's, or is that coon or uncle, not coon, it's uncle Tom talk. Uncle Tom talk where...
17:52Or me uncle Tom and uncle Joe. Go ahead.
17:54Where you're not seeing the black plight right now. You're, you're overlooking everything
18:01that black people had to endure. I mean, I mean, we could talk about statistics and all
18:06of these things. It seems like there's some insensitivity, even just from Republican to
18:11Democrats. It seems like the Republican party wants to kind of diminish, you know, welfare
18:17and different things like that. So what would you say for those, you know, there are some
18:21pastors that are pushing, hey, like we, it's DDI. Let's push anything that for, that pushes
18:27black people forward. In fact, most, I would say in Georgia, in Atlanta, pastors, I would
18:35say would probably either be Democrats or would have a strong opinion against Trump and the
18:42entire administration. So for you to speak like that, people, black Christians will look
18:48at you with a negative perspective. Where does, where does holding onto black identity exists
18:53as being a Christian and a disciple do? Are we called to deny our black identity? Are we
18:59called, like, where's the balance here? Simple. Jesus said, what I say in the one I say in the
19:04all. I don't preach race. I preach the kingdom of God. And according to the kingdom of God,
19:10there are only two races. Ain't no such thing as black love. Ain't no such thing as black
19:14wealth. Ain't no such thing as black excellence. You either excellent or you raggedy. You either
19:19operate in love or you operate in hatred. We're the only individuals to sit up here and we
19:23accomplish something and black excellence. No, your child got good grades and that's normal
19:28for all races. Again, you think Jesus is going to be mad? Which one you think Jesus want me
19:34to preach, race or the kingdom of God? You think he want me to get people saved and cast
19:39out demons? You think he want me to get people delivered and pray and fast for his will to
19:45be done or you think he want me to preach race? I had a lot of white people. I got
19:49a lot
19:49of, I have a large non-black following and guess what? The whites constantly send me.
19:54Is it okay to come to your church? I think that's appalling. You know why they ask that
19:57question? Because you got so many men to look at me to preach race. That's all they preach
20:02is race. That's all they know is race. Okay. But guess what? The answer for the black man
20:06is the same answer for the white man today. Oh yeah. There are things in the past, what
20:09we went through, what we did endure. Slavery, all of those, man, you want to hear something?
20:15Y'all not ready for this. Y'all not ready for this. Yeah. So you guys heard a little bit
20:20of that there. There's obviously the conversation goes on much, much longer than that, but I
20:24had to share that with y'all because, uh, man, wasn't it a good conversation? Was it a great
20:30conversation? So once again, shout out to, um, the, uh, we need to talk podcast. Great conversation
20:36between, uh, these two individuals. And like you said, if Trump was such an evil person,
20:44because if you listen to these liberals, if you listen to Democrats, Trump is like Lucifer
20:48himself. He's the devil himself. I mean, he's the devil on earth, right? If you listen to
20:54these liberals and these Democrats out here, but if he was, would he have gone to Nigeria?
21:00Would he have saved the Christians in Nigeria? How does that even make sense? How does it
21:06make sense? Right? When, when, when, when, matter of fact, I think I have the clip of,
21:13um, the Nigerian, like begging Trump. Actually, I don't know if I can show y'all that because
21:20I think there's like dead bodies in the background of the video. Um, did I save that? I think,
21:27hold on, let me see. Let me see. Let me see something real quick. Cause I think I saved
21:31that clip, um, because it was, it was, it was, it was so crazy to, to, to see that. Um,
21:37no, I didn't, I didn't, I did not, I did not. Unfortunately. Hold on, let me see. Yeah,
21:45no, I didn't save it, but literally there's a clip of a Nigerian. I'm assuming a pastor,
21:55uh, begging Trump to come to Nigeria and save Christians while like there's, Oh, here it
22:00is. Here it is. I'm not going to throw it up on the screen. Cause there's literal like
22:07bodies on the ground in front of him. It's a little blurred out, but you know how YouTube
22:12be. Sometimes it's a little weird, you know, I put that in here. Then the whole video gets
22:16taken down and you know, I'll play what he says though. He said, he said the government denied
22:44that there was a massacre, massacre of Nigerian Christians, but look at it today. And as he's
22:49saying it, he's pointing at the bodies of Christians that are laying dead at his feet.
22:58Is there any Muslim? United Nations, I know you're watching you. American Senate, you are watching
23:08what I'm doing. I'm saying special advisor to Trump. Now, please tell Trump to save our life
23:19in Nigeria. They are killing Christians in Nigeria. Massacre Christian. If they'll say
23:30and what did Trump do, he said, Hey, let Trump know, please. Somebody tell Trump, come save
23:36Christians in Nigeria. They're killing Christians, massacring Christians in Nigeria. And what did
23:40Trump do? He came and saved them. He let these people know who were killing Christians. You're
23:50going to F around and find out if you keep doing it. I know where y'all sleep at.
23:56You're not safe. Now, obviously he coordinated with the Nigerian government. So they knew what
24:01was going on. You know, can't have a random bomb dropping in your country. You don't know
24:05what the fuck is happening. Whoa, what was that? Where'd that come from? So he coordinated
24:10it with the government. Hey, we know where these guys are at. And we let you know, we about
24:14to drop a bomb on some of their heads while they're sleeping. So they know that we know where
24:19they're at. And you better tell them to stop killing these Christians or it's going to happen
24:26again. Love to see it. Love to see it. But according to the left, according to liberals
24:33and Democrats, Trump is evil. He's the worst thing ever. He's a terrible president. Even
24:38though, even like with the Greenland thing, I mean, if you know about art of the deal,
24:45you know exactly what Trump is doing. You take the most extreme position possible and
24:51you make people believe that extreme position. And then you come down off of that position
24:57a little bit. So then everybody feels like they won. But in reality, that's what you wanted
25:01in the first place. You go 150%. And then you come down to 80% because 80% is what
25:08you
25:08wanted in the first place. But now everybody thinks that they won because you came off of
25:12150.
25:17Trump's going to crash the economy. Did the economy crash? Y'all remember before the last election,
25:24Kamala was saying that we were going to have a recession by the middle of next year. Last
25:29time I checked, we had a whole different year now. We were supposed to have a
25:31recession last summer. Did it happen? Right. World War III, right? Oh my God, it's World
25:41War III. We're going to start World War III. Did it happen? Just saying, man. Just saying.
25:49Trump very well might be the greatest president America has ever seen. And we all get to witness
25:55it. We're all here to see it. What a time to be alive, ain't it? What a time. Y'all
26:00stay
26:00safe out there. Peace and love. I'm out.
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