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Seth and Sean discuss if the Texans delivered on the 9 things Seth was excited to see at OTAs.
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00:00So, you had a long list of things yesterday that you were genuinely excited about.
00:05Your exact words.
00:06Traveling at the speed of light.
00:08Aside from that, you had nine other things from Texans OTAs that you were excited to see going into OTAs.
00:15So, I want to go through some of these here, and we'll have some audio kind of mixed in.
00:20The number one thing was C.J. Stroud.
00:23Quarterback takes precedence.
00:24Yeah.
00:24You had all sorts of different things about how he's moving, his physique, and how he's moving and everything.
00:30I thought everything looked good.
00:31I already checked all the boxes.
00:32He had that one interception to Jalen Petrie, but by and large, I thought it was a pretty crisp day
00:36for him.
00:37First play of 11 on 11.
00:38I'm like, oh, no.
00:40Right, right.
00:40No, that's what practice is for, interceptions.
00:43You want your quarterback.
00:45Remember, my golden rule.
00:46Yeah, but when we last saw him.
00:48I know.
00:48Remember when Marcus Mariota, people were gushing about him not throwing any interceptions his rookie year?
00:53Yeah.
00:54Most people, like, most quarterbacks and coaches and everything hear that, and they're like, that's kind of weird.
01:00Like, this kid, it sounds like he's being way too cautious.
01:03Practice is the time to try things.
01:04This is the time to try things.
01:05That's right.
01:06So, no, but by and large, I thought he looked good.
01:08Yes, I did think that he looked a little bit sleeker athletically, and it's not like I thought he was
01:13fat or anything last year.
01:14He had consciously put on some masks last year, and he probably felt like, okay, I like it a little
01:20bit better this other way.
01:22So, does CJ get a ding here or a buzz?
01:25In terms of, well, I also wanted to hear what he said at the press conference, and I thought he
01:29gave, I thought he gave a textbook reply, which was, I'm going to let my agent handle it.
01:35And then he said, my job is to improve as a football player, and I think I've held up my
01:39end of the bargain on that.
01:40Can we still have that open, Ben?
01:41Let's play it one more time, just so people know exactly what Seth's talking about.
01:44Yeah, I mean, I let my agent handle it, you know, and, you know, if it's time to do it,
01:48then it is.
01:49If it's not, my job is football, so that's what I focus on is just getting better, and I think
01:53I've held my bargain up on that edge.
01:55So, you know, whatever happens, happens.
01:58You know, I'm excited to be a Texan this year, and, you know, go from there.
02:01Look at you, Seth Payne.
02:02I wanted something salacious.
02:04Yeah.
02:04And you gave an explanation that makes perfect sense as to why that's not salacious.
02:08The knee-jerk reaction is, you hear, I've held up my end of the bargain, and because it's a question
02:12about his contract,
02:13you immediately think, oh, he's saying that he deserves the contract.
02:16That's what I did.
02:17I don't think that's what he was saying at all.
02:18He was saying his job is to improve as a player, and basically that's what I've done, and that's what
02:23I'm working on doing.
02:24You know, you could debate about all of that, whether he has or has not.
02:27But I didn't, I thought that was the appropriate response.
02:30I guess he could have done it in such a way that didn't, you know, leave it up to interpretation.
02:35Yeah, that actually, if you're going to interpret it that way, that is the interesting part is, has he improved?
02:40Right, right, right.
02:40Because some would say his best football was three years ago.
02:43I thought he improved in a lot of ways that he had to improve this year in terms of maturing
02:47as a quarterback
02:48and understanding how to manage a game, like how to understand situations, when not to take risks.
02:55I thought he made a lot of improvements in the regular season.
02:57It was the postseason, which is a bit of a hang-up on all of that.
03:02It's just everything went flying off the rails in the postseason.
03:04In the worst possible way.
03:06Here was CJ.
03:06So I give a, oh, yeah, so CJ gets a ding on that.
03:09CJ gets a ding there.
03:11Yeah.
03:11Tronicking also.
03:12There we go.
03:15The, the, see, here was CJ Stroud.
03:17One more from CJ, and then we'll move on.
03:19Here was CJ on just how incorporating the offense, how things are going with the install heading into season four
03:25here.
03:25I mean, I, I mean, I watch a lot of our self-scout, you know, just try to, you know,
03:30fix some things,
03:30try to introduce some things that I'm used to, that I've done in my past that I like to do.
03:35So we can do that a little more.
03:37But, you know, I think we're, we're both growing, you know, great, creating a better relationship
03:41and, you know, growing as offense.
03:43And just trying to make it the, the offense for the 26, you know, 2026, 2027 Texans, you know,
03:50and, and trying to do, doing things that everybody, you know, is, is good at, you know,
03:55and doing things that, you know, we've done in the past.
03:57So, you know, we're growing in that area.
03:58And I said season, season four of CJ, obviously season two of Kaylee and CJ.
04:02Right, right.
04:02Yeah.
04:02And I think that it was interesting there because that's a perfectly natural and normal thing.
04:08The, the anecdote that I thought of immediately was Matt Ryan going into his second season
04:14with Kyle Shanahan.
04:15Remember there was the story that, oh yeah, they got together and hashed everything out
04:18over, had a couple of beers at a bar.
04:20And, you know, Matt Ryan would later explain it was a little bit, it was longer than that.
04:24It was, it was a whole off season long process of, and it wasn't contentious.
04:28It was just, okay, this is what I like doing in this offense.
04:31This is what, you know, and Kyle Shanahan working with them.
04:34And I think that's, that's the normal and natural thing you want going into a second season.
04:38It doesn't necessarily have to be a, like a, you know, a gripe session or something.
04:42And I think that, I think with CJ, and this is the thing that I thought he, he did a
04:48good
04:48job of last year.
04:49Remember, remember, remember in the first half, it was almost like he was, he was grudgingly
04:55acknowledging that sometimes you got to check the ball down.
04:58Sometimes you got to, sometimes you got to take what the defense gives you and everything.
05:01And it felt like he kind of flipped the switch at one point to where he was embracing it
05:05because he's wired to want to be aggressive downfield.
05:09So there's, I think, and it's hard to do that when all of a sudden, when you get stuffed,
05:15you run the ball on first down and it's second and 10 and it gets that much harder to be
05:20aggressive
05:21downfield because defenses are just taking that away from you.
05:23So I think that, I think Kaylee understands that part of CJ and the, the biggest thing that
05:29they can do for their working relationship is to actually have a good rushing attack
05:34this year and to be a more balanced offense.
05:36And then they're going to have their opportunities downfield.
05:38All right.
05:39Number two on your list was tank Dell.
05:41What did they have tank Dell doing out at practice?
05:44And I had said that the best case scenario, like the thing that would get me the most excited
05:49that I thought was feasible was he's participating in some of the drills out there.
05:53Maybe not 11 on 11, but maybe he's seven on seven or, you know, the wide receivers are doing
05:57drills he's over there. I said, the thing that would have me the most concerned would be if
06:03he was working out by himself on a side field over there. If we looked at lonely tank over
06:08there just with a couple of trainers, it was even less than that. He was in the bubble the
06:13whole time. It was lonelier than that. It was lonely for me. The tank wasn't out there. Okay.
06:18So I, this has been my policy. I'm not going to be upset or disappointed when I don't see tank
06:23Dell out there at practice. Cause I think they're, they're going to be as conservative
06:27as they can be because there is zero hurry right this moment. So that weird, we're only
06:33out there for some of the practices. So whatever he is doing, I would imagine maybe the first
06:37time they have mountain team drills, they're probably going to do it. And one that's not
06:41open to the media. Um, so it's probably a good guess. Now we do it. Like we know by D
06:45'Amico
06:45that Brevin Jordan got a lot of work yesterday or the, in the first one, the closed practice,
06:51um, with the team and made some plays. We didn't see him yesterday, but he's out there
06:55doing it and tank Dell isn't, but I'm not. Um, so I guess, I guess I'm disappointed, but
07:00not, not like I'm distraught over the process. I I'm excited to see tank Dell out there. It
07:06will happen at some point. I don't look at this as a setback or anything. Yeah. Yeah. I hope
07:10so. Here was D'Amico Ryans with his update on Brevin Jordan and tank Dell. Brevin's out.
07:15He's rolling, doing a great job back to where he's been. Always here. Big smile on his
07:19face, excited to practice. You know, we're, we're easing him back in. He had a really big
07:24play yesterday on a choice route. He got to the proper depth, broke one of our safeties
07:29off and had a really nice play. So it was exciting, right? To see him just back on the field.
07:34We
07:34know how devastating it was for him to go down and to see him back working. It's very encouraged.
07:40I'm proud of the work that he's put in tank is still working off on the side when that time
07:45is, you know, set for him to be back. He'll be back out there. Okay. So the much shorter
07:49answer for tank than Brevin, you know, Brevin, he's rolling. He made a play and he cut this
07:53safety off and blah, blah, blah. Um, that it, it does. It's an interesting illustration
07:57as to how severe tank Dell's injury was that here you have Brevin Jordan, who's had multiple
08:03knee injuries, multiple season ending knee injuries, including one that was much more recent
08:09than tank Dell's sitting in a game. Although there was an equal, uh, like an emotional,
08:15uh, outburst in both of those injuries. Well, Brevin himself, it was in the bubble and you
08:21could hear him wailing. It sounded like an animal got shot. Um, and the, and now it's
08:26the answer to this question about both, both guys are part of this question. Yeah. And the
08:30answer is Brevin's rolling. Yeah. He's out there and he's making plays. He's doing this,
08:34he's doing that. And then tank gets five seconds at the end of it. Cause he's in the bubble
08:37working out by himself. Yeah. And it's an accurate, I'm not throwing shade at D'Amico
08:40or anything. I'm merely pointing out the illustration as to just how severe tanks
08:45injury. Right. They're still this cautious with a guy who tore his knee up nine months
08:50before Brevin Jordan tore his knee up. Yeah. It was a year and a half ago, almost two years
08:55ago, be two years in December or whatever. So yeah, a year and a half, almost, yeah, exactly
08:59a year and a half ago. Um, so there was no tank yesterday out, at least outwardly publicly
09:04at practice. He was in the bubble. Okay. The offensive line, were you keeping your eye
09:08on these offensive line permutations? More casually? No. Cause I, I, you can't tell squad
09:13about the offensive and defensive line. You can tell a little bit. Um, but I was kind
09:17of just, I was, I was trying to see who was playing linebacker, um, and what the rookie
09:21wide receivers are doing and everything. But, uh, I, I, Cody Stutes does a good job of following
09:27this stuff. And he had pointed out that Keelan Rutledge was working at center in the individual
09:33drills. Um, but I, if I have it correctly, I don't think he took any center snaps. I'll
09:38look at Cody summary and double check. I'm not, I don't recall if he was Cody was using
09:42verbiage. Like he snapped the ball to the center, but he wasn't explaining whether it
09:46was in practice or in the, so anyway, well, the bottom line is he he's not as zero. It's
09:52like he's doing center things. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So he's doing, they're working
09:56him at center and I didn't, I didn't personally, I didn't see him playing center yesterday.
09:59I might've missed it. Um, but I like that, that, the fact that he is snapping to the
10:05quarterback, um, and getting work at it to lets me believe. Yeah. He's that's there's
10:11a real strong possibility. He's a starting, he's going to get some work there. It would
10:13look like at least. Yeah. Here was D'Amico Ryan's on the center position with the center
10:17position. We have a lot of guys who can play the center position. So being able to move different
10:22guys around, move, get different guys in, in that position to see, you know, who's going
10:27to come out on top. So we have a lot of good competition. We had a lot of good depth
10:31to
10:31our offensive line. They've done a great job this off season. Coach Pop has done a great
10:35job with them and, um, it's, it's shaping up to be really nice. You can't tell much
10:40until you put pads on when it comes from an O-line D-line perspective, but we've taken
10:45strides tremendously when it comes to the communication up on, up front. So I'm proud of what I've seen
10:51so far and I'm excited to see where it's going to go for us. That if I'm not mistaken, if
10:57I recall that question was specifically, I think Landry asked it, it was specifically
11:03about Jake Andrews and D'Amico took it to a center position. Yeah. They have at least,
11:10I went through and counted yesterday. It was at least five and maybe six guys who I know
11:14for sure have played center either in the NFL or in college or at the senior bowl. And,
11:19and, and that's really kind of how it is. I mean, yeah, Evan Brown, um, Jake Andrews,
11:25you've got Kieran Rutledge, Jared Patterson, Jared Patterson, Eli Cox, five. Oh, and also
11:30Wee Woo played a few games in college. Yeah. That's at least six and a couple others that I'm,
11:35I'm got, I don't know if Kingston has or not, but, um, yeah, there's a lot like D'Amico was
11:40not
11:41exaggerating there. They've got a bunch of guys that might viably be a center. Yep. Oh,
11:45you had a combo thing. You were looking for at OTAs yesterday, offensive wrinkles for four and
11:51five on your list, which, uh, and it was part of that was fueled by Aaron Wilson had reported that
11:55Kate Stover is probably going to get some more opportunities at fullback this year. Yeah. So
11:59whether you want to call it that, that like an H back type thing where I'm guessing where you can
12:02play tight end and fullback. Um, I didn't notice at any point there, I'm not saying it didn't happen.
12:08I just didn't notice if Stover was out there at fullback. Um, I thought that in general,
12:13like all of the tight ends looked the way I expected them to look, which is neither good nor
12:17bad. It's that, okay, Foster Moreau, uh, he's a capable blocker, but he was also out there running
12:23routes and looked good doing that. Looks like he's a, he's been a, he's been a solid tight end in
12:27the
12:27NFL. Um, the Dalton Schultz looked like for, you know, by seven on seven and non-padded standards
12:34looked really good. And he has a really nice connection with him. So no big surprise there.
12:37Marlon Klein is interesting because I think, um, he's a guy that he's big, but he's not,
12:44he's, he's big, but looks like he still has room to kind of fill out into his man body.
12:51Like if he almost has a physique of a really small offensive lineman in a good way. Yeah.
12:57Um, and, and I think he's physically impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's just big. Yeah. Yeah.
13:02So if you told me, if I was looking from afar and the, and, and somebody said, Oh yeah,
13:06that guy used to be an offensive line. He's one of those retired offensive lineman that lost a
13:10bunch of weight. Oh yeah. 260 now or something. Yeah. Like what's his name from Cleveland there?
13:15Uh, Joe Thomas. Yeah. He's like Joe Thomas. Hey, that's Joe Thomas out there. Oh yeah,
13:20that makes sense. It's like a six foot six, 250 pounds shrunk down. Right. Offensive lineman.
13:25Except this guy's 22 years old and can move a little bit. So he's got a big frame. He's not,
13:29he's not, he's not impressive athletically or anything, but you can see the potential because
13:35he's so long and rangy, um, that just by virtue of his catch radius and, and his size that he
13:41might
13:42become a receiving option. Yep. Um, all right. Dude, we're going through Seth's things. He was
13:46genuinely excited about going into yesterday. Is he still excited about these things?
13:50Sounds like, I would say as far as a genuine excitement with the offensive wrinkles, the
13:54running backs in the past game would be the other thing. Um, Montgomery catching that pass.
13:58Montgomery had a nice catch over the middle. And then there were a lot of check downs. Woody
14:01Marks, I think Woody Marks with a check down and a couple other guys. So it was no big deal.
14:04So not,
14:05uh, just, uh, not, not underwhelmed. You're still, you're still a little itchy right there where that
14:10is. Okay. So that gets neither a ding nor a buzz. Um, defensive fronts. You were looking forward to
14:16Cade McDonald. Yeah, we got a little into the weeds and a little bit, uh,
14:19too much with this with, okay, does Cade McDonald allow them to kind of do some things different?
14:23He did get chippy with Jarrett Kingston. He got chippy with Jarrett Kingston.
14:27He had at least one offsides encroachment, uh, which I liked, but by and large, look,
14:33he's out there trying to learn the system. Yeah. If they're going to end up tweaking things.
14:38The one thing I would say is with both him and Naquan Jones out there, Naquan Jones is a big
14:44dude.
14:44It felt like, okay, there's, and I was, as I was watching the defensive tackles work,
14:49I was like, this looks like a, this is a beefier squad than they did last year. And I think
14:55we've
14:56talked so much about offensive, uh, improvements and how they want to be more physical. I think
15:02just by virtue of what D'Amico said after Cade McDonald was drafted, I think, yeah, they,
15:07they want to add a little bit of beef and brute force to their defensive line, perhaps.
15:12Uh, because you know, the Cade McDonald is a guy that's not, doesn't fit the mold of a lot of
15:17the
15:18other defensive tackles they've had in there before. And D'Amico just flat out said after the
15:21draft, sometimes you just, there's times where you just flat out have to stop the run. Yep. And,
15:25um, so I think that's one of the tweaks that D'Amico has talked about and, you know,
15:28always advancing and growing and tweaking your offense. They're just going to look physically
15:32a little bit different this year. I'm going to give it a ding. I just liked watching Cade McDonald
15:35do things out there yesterday, man. Number 93 in your program.
15:39And as I said yesterday, he's a guy because he's a size and power guy,
15:43those guys don't typically flash during non-padded practices. That's right. If they do,
15:48they're, they're, they're going to get screamed at by the coach. Cause it would be him bull rushing
15:52somebody into the ground or something, which you're not allowed to do. Can't do that.
15:55Uh, number seven for you was the secondary yesterday. Oh, okay. So I got some plays out
16:00there. Yeah. They made a bunch of plays, but really it was the addition of Reed Blankenship.
16:04Yeah. And are we going to see a little bit different version of the Texans defense this year?
16:09When, when D'Amico talks about adapting and growing and all that, um, last year,
16:14they did not disguise their looks a whole bunch at all. And I, I saw some things out there yesterday
16:19that made me feel like, okay, now that you've got five quality starters back there and Reed Blankenship
16:25comes from a system in Philadelphia that was really, they asked the DBs to do a lot.
16:31So handle, they asked him to do a lot mentally so he can handle any kind of tweaks that D
16:37'Amico
16:37adds. And meanwhile, Kamari Lasseter and Kalen Bullock are now actual veteran players. And you just,
16:45you gotta be careful how much you disguise and how many wrinkles you add to the defense when you've got
16:49young guys in the secondary. I think this year they're going to be just not, not overly complex
16:55or anything, but they can add some more wrinkles and execute at the same level. I love the point
17:00you brought up yesterday about Reed Blankenship and his presence now and what that does for Kalen
17:04Bullock, freeing him up maybe to do some of the things, which is his superpower. It was just like,
17:10okay, you got Kalen Bullock up in the, or you've got Reed Blankenship up at the line. And then all
17:15of
17:15a sudden at the snap, Kalen Bullock is blitzing from deep, you know, and you don't have to be
17:20wild with it. You know, you look at the way the Seahawks operate. They don't blitz a whole lot,
17:25which means that when they do blitz, they ambush you with it and it catches offenses off guard.
17:31I think D'Amico would love to be able to do that. Yep. Um, what did you see from the,
17:36uh,
17:36love the linebacker depth or something you were, cause they got, they got a bunch of snaps.
17:39They got to fill with no EJ speed out there. The one thing I was, uh, surprised and intrigued and
17:45excited about was that Wade would as was out there with the twos as much as he was. So I
17:49don't know.
17:49Look, I don't know how much he played in, in the first practice. It's you read too much into how
17:54much these guys are playing with different groups. It's, it gets dicey. Um, but they're certainly
17:59giving him a lot of work. Aiden Fisher, the other rookie was not practicing. So, uh, presumably it
18:04wasn't a vet day. It was, uh, that he's got some kind of, he's a, he was a vet vet
18:09at Indiana.
18:10That's for sure. But yeah, I don't think, uh, Indiana, he's the kind of guy that after the
18:14first day of practice, went up to the coach and was like, Hey coach, uh, you know, my hamstrings
18:17feel a little tight. You mind if I just take a vet day? Or he just assumes that there's a
18:21vet day.
18:21He's like, uh, I know we got three told there'd be vet days. I know we got three OTAs this
18:26week.
18:26Is, is session two my vet day? Hey, who's our player rep? I'm gonna talk to the union about this.
18:31I heard there's this thing here called a vet vet. Yeah. Which I would like to be.
18:35So I think Aiden Fisher just has some kind of little mild strain or something I'm guessing.
18:39Um, but the other two guys that were out there a lot with the twos, because you know,
18:43Aziz Alshire and Henry Toto were out there with the ones. The other two guys were, uh, Casey
18:48Osai, who they just re-signed last week. And, um, oh, and Marte Mapu, who I think right now is
18:55the leader in the clubhouse for replacing EJ Speed. You asked D'Amico Ryans about him.
18:59Yeah. Here's what D'Amico Ryans had to say.
19:01Yeah. Marte, what I like about him, he's a very smart linebacker. Smart. He's, he's long,
19:07fast guy. Uh, but he, Marte does a really good job of being where he's supposed to be in position.
19:11He's communicating. We're moving him around. He's taking some reps at the Mike linebacker spot.
19:16So he does a really good job of communicating. And he's also taking some spots at the, at the,
19:21some, uh, reps at the wheel linebacker. So smart guy who you're able to move around at multiple spots.
19:26He's done a really good job on special teams as well. So just a very versatile,
19:31athletic linebacker, still a young player, young player who's think he's played in three or four
19:36different schemes already to be so young in his career. So hoping he just settles, settles in,
19:41what we're being able to teach him. Coach Billy Davis done an outstanding job of working with him
19:45this off season. Marte's type of guy. He's always in the building. We have to kick him out. So he's
19:50always doing the X-mail or the recovery, body maintenance. He's a, he's a true worker to see
19:58how, how he transitions and how he looks during training camp. Just stop talking to me. I need
20:03to talk. You're the one that asked him the damn question. Um, okay. I think, I think D'Amico,
20:08uh, I think this is going to be his favorite project. I like, honestly, I don't know if you looked
20:13at
20:13Marte Mapu at all or not, but he's just, he's fun to watch because he's six foot three is 230
20:19pounds,
20:20but he's also played safety. Like he's just fun to watch physically. He's a big rangy guy out there
20:27as a linebacker. Um, that's not, not, you know, he's kind of lanky. He's like a, he's like a modern
20:32day Jack Lambert. Um, but I think everything that D'Amico said right there, especially concerning
20:38his intelligence and his versatility, the fact that he's played safety in new England, he's played
20:43linebacker. Um, he's, he's on special teams and remember they're looking for bigger guys
20:48on kickoff and kicker kickoff return now than they used to. Um, I think that there's a real
20:53good chance. He ends up being EJ speeds replacement until he comes back. They got him for a 2027 late
20:59round pick swap. Yeah. They, they got him in a seventh for a six next year. And this is like
21:05D'Amico said, he's played in a few different schemes already because he got, and he was a third
21:10round pick. Yeah. And I'd be curious too, to kind of know it's interesting that Vrabel didn't want
21:15him, you know? Right. So was it just simply a scheme fit or was it Vrabel coming in and making
21:21his judgments, you know, kind of snap judgments about what he did and didn't want. Yeah. I mean,
21:25he played for him this year. Yeah. So it's like he had a full year with him. So I don't
21:29know if it
21:29would be, you know, they do run a different style of scheme up there. Um, and I, I feel like
21:38I could
21:39see where he just wasn't quite stout enough as an inside linebacker for, for what Vrabel wanted.
21:45He wasn't physically as stout. Um, but D'Amico might really like me go really might find a way to
21:50use them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, last one of the things you were genuinely excited about the, uh,
21:56the rookies here was D'Amico Ryans on how the young players are adapting. I feel like all of
22:01our young guys are, are really up to speed and what we've been able to do. Our coaches are doing
22:06a great job of taking advantage of the additional time that we have with the rookies to teach them
22:11what we do, how we do it. And the rookies have picked it up really well. We got a
22:15really smart group of rookies who stepped in. And at times you don't even know they're rookies
22:20because they're not making the normal rookie mistakes. They're fitting in just fine.
22:24It's always some technique and small things to clean up, but they're, they're fitting into
22:29what we do, especially culturally. Like we got the right guys with the mindset. We got the right
22:34guys. They're going to be physical. They're smart. They're tough guys. So it's just a matter of them
22:38continuing to get reps and the more reps they get, the better they'll get this year.
22:42The tough thing about the rookies, especially the, the rookies, the Texans drafted. Yeah.
22:47It seems like all play positions where it's hard to glean things at OT, especially the top two guys,
22:52right? Keelan Rutledge and Caden McDonald. If you're forming an opinion on them,
22:56a hardcore opinion on them after watching one OTA session. Right. There's just, there's not a
23:02lot you can do. There's no pads. Yeah. I, you know, like Lewis Bond, I watched him a little bit
23:06and I mean, like, it looked like what his scouting report was. It seemed like he,
23:10he did everything. You didn't see him get screwing up any drills or anything. And he's supposed to be
23:15pretty polished for a guy that doesn't have extreme physical traits, but man, he has all the other
23:20stuff that might be able to make up for that. So there's a lot of really intriguing guys.
23:24Um, you know, we talked about Marlon Klein already and Wade Wood as so it was nice to see them
23:29out
23:29there. I didn't get a chance to watch Kamari Ramsey at all other than just like glancing at him, uh,
23:35here or there. Colin Wright. I'm intrigued by two in the secondary. Oh, undrafted from Stanford. Yep.
23:40All right. So that, that was a kind of your deluxe OTA summary from yesterday.
23:45Pitzenberger, the kid out of Yale, uh, scored a touchdown. He did. He did. There were running
23:50back out of Yale, everybody. So I probably should, I should probably put the positions in front of
23:54these guys. We got a few little side bets going on as to whether or not he gets in the
23:57end zone
23:58in the preseason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just some little, you know, little media,
24:02you know, friendly, uh, hamburger bets, you know, that kind of thing as to whether or not he gets
24:06in the end zone in the preseason. You know who I didn't get a look at really is
24:09Sobkowitz because people are excited about him. I'm excited about him. He's the receiver out of
24:12uh, Illinois state that like he averaged a thousand yards receiving per season in his
24:17last three years there. He's incredibly productive, but it's, it's FCS. And, um, I just, but it's,
24:24I mean, you want, I have to be careful because you watch the highlight rules of FCS schools and
24:28you're like, this guy's, this guy's the next. Oh yeah. This is Cooper. How did, how did this,
24:33how did this guy never get to FBS? Right, right. And then you go back and then I remember like,
24:37oh yeah, if I go watch my college highlights from FCS, you'd think I was DeMarcus Ware.
24:40You know, this guy's, this guy's going to break Deacon Jones sack record. Yeah.
24:50That's fantastic. Oh man. Hey, uh, I want to read one here on the text.
24:56I'm cocaine DeMarcus Ware.
24:57On the text page.
25:00Um, Seth, this is a question for you. Is there some thinking around the players on the Texans that
25:05will Anderson actually needs to settle down a little bit? Everyone knows he could destroy
25:11the play. So why does he have to do it every time? Yeah. I'm applying my own tone to this.
25:16Obviously it does not seem like that's a team, very team friendly way to go about a practice.
25:21Um, people, uh, they're all, uh, then the sentence gets jarbled here. This guy is seems to be,
25:26this texter seems to be a little bewildered that will Anderson try. So right, right, right, right.
25:30No, I'd say, uh, look, you gotta, you gotta find that balance, honestly. And, uh, uh,
25:37okay, boy, he's putting me in a bind here. He's really putting me in a bind here.
25:42I think part of me. I do think, because every time I talk about this, people are going to accuse
25:47me of being an idiot or being too soft. Yeah. There is an element of, you know, you know,
25:53you gotta walk before you can run and you know, you gotta run before you can sprint all of that.
25:58And last year in training camp, I felt like at some point they early on, they should have figured
26:04out a way to like either going by ones versus twos or something to just get the offense functioning
26:10to the point where they could, they could, it's not to boost their ego or anything just to be able
26:16to complete plays and run the play. And then you can start running faster. You know, it's the difference
26:21between starting on, it's like starting on level seven of a video game. You've never played before.
26:25Right. Um, you're just, you gotta, you gotta get the basics down first with Will Anderson. Um,
26:30no, I think this goes more back. I know that like how it is in basketball, where like when it
26:35comes
26:35to individual players that are going to practice hard, the benefit you get by the highest paid guy
26:41on at his position, being the hardest worker on your team and people having to match his intensity.
26:47Uh, I'm willing to, uh, I'm willing to take a few disrupted plays for people to see and understand
26:53that's the way they have to work. But then also like at some point I like D'Amico's in a
26:58bind
26:58because D'Amico is going to be very reluctant to tell Will to throttle it down. Right. So he has
27:03to go back to Will's high school rules. Yeah. Which in high school, they just wouldn't let him practice.
27:07That's what D'Amico intimated yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Will continues direct practice. I'm
27:11probably going to have to sit him out here soon. Yeah. Cause we have to be able to actually
27:16practice. So he just keeps wrecking practice. So let's just keep doing that. Keep causing havoc.
27:21That's what he does. And I was showing God that's what he does on Sundays as well. So it's no
27:27surprise.
27:28But Will is the guy for everyone to watch of the intensity at which we operate. That's how
27:33Will Anderson plays. That's how I want everybody to be. I would say, uh, the, the one thing that they
27:38might have to do with Will is something like, Hey, well, you're only allowed to do
27:42speed, speed rush moves today. And the, and the tackle will know it, which makes it a little
27:47bit easier for Ariante Ursary, which, but, but, um, at least you can get the drill going.
27:52The other thing too, though, is, um, I don't, I'm, I'm kind of curious, like CJ does a good
27:58job of trying to be honest when he's out there and you know, he's a, he's not holding onto the
28:04ball for eight seconds and then throwing the ball. Yep. That's something you would see out.
28:07Uh, I, he did it his rookie year and then he learned, okay, we got to keep in the timing.
28:13Got to simulate the real thing. I think there's times where I think there are some times yesterday
28:17where it's fun to joke about, you know, will ruining the drill and everything. You're no pads.
28:22Will's not going to hit the quarterback and it's okay for CJ to, you know, CJ is still looking downfield,
28:29even though Will's running by him. Yep. You don't call the sack necessarily,
28:34but what happened yesterday was that Will was deep in the backfield. Plus nobody else was open.
28:39Right. So it ends up looking like we'll ruin the drill, but it's really more that, okay, no,
28:43the defense actually was really good in coverage too. So you call it a sack, but in practice,
28:47you just, when it comes to the pass rush, you let those guys run past the quarterback.
28:51We haven't mentioned this and we probably should have definitely appropriate for what you're just
28:55talking about. Nico Collins did not practice yesterday. He was there, but he didn't practice
29:00yesterday. So CJ was operating the way he was in the new England game with no,
29:04with no Nico Collins out there with far fewer interceptions.
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