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President Trump’s crackdown on immigration has led to a big drop in the number of migrants illegally crossing the border and a sharp rise in arrests in US cities. But his administration’s hardline approach has divided America. Two protesters have been shot dead on the streets of Minneapolis by federal agents, and an estimated 14 million undocumented immigrants are at risk of deportation. Reporter Darragh MacIntyre meets some of the families living under threat and asks whether the president’s tough policies are working.
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00:10President Trump's immigration crackdown has divided America.
00:14The two people who got killed are largely responsible for their own death.
00:21The U.S. government is spending an extra $75 billion on enforcement.
00:26This is a campaign of fear and it's a campaign of making America whiter and anti-immigrant.
00:34They say they're targeting the worst of the worst.
00:38These are real criminal, illegal aliens. In many cases, they're murderers, they're drug lords.
00:46Millions of people are being threatened with deportation.
00:49People need to take responsibility for themselves and for decisions that they've made and the consequences.
00:56And ordinary families can be ripped apart.
01:00These are not the worst of the worst. These are the best of the best.
01:11What happened?
01:14Minnesota in early February and Javier Abreu has been stopped by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, ICE.
01:31He's scared to open the car door and is filming on his phone.
01:36Two people have already been shot dead by federal agents in Minnesota.
01:42Austin Bogdan News, financed byarks and Americans to stroke him.
01:51Was that a knee Home Pist dishing?
01:54I'd rather a miss out for my brother.
01:54They sent me to go.
01:55What am I saying?
01:59Don't be it.
01:59Don't be it.
02:00Don't be it.
02:01I'm going to leave.
02:02I'm going to leave.
02:04I'm sick.
02:06I'm sick.
02:07I'm sick.
02:07I'm sick of the rinones.
02:08Are you okay?
02:10I want to know what I did.
02:11They don't want me to tell me why they caught me.
02:15Stay over there.
02:16I'm right here.
02:17Stay over there.
02:18I'm right here.
02:18I'm right here.
02:19Stay right there.
02:20What's your name?
02:21Javier Abreu.
02:23I want to know why they're taking me.
02:26Yes, yes, yes.
02:41Javier and his wife Carolina came to the US from the Dominican Republic eight years ago.
02:48He had a kidney transplant in 2023 and needs to take drugs every day so his body doesn't
02:54reject the kidney.
02:57Carolina sent ICE's medication, but Javier didn't get it straight away.
03:03Yes, until the next day he had his medications and at the 1 of the afternoon it was when
03:09they took them to Texas.
03:11Well, the first thing I thought, well, what will happen with our family?
03:16Will they be deported?
03:17What will happen?
03:19Carolina is a trainee nurse in a hospital in Minnesota and has been granted residency.
03:26Carola, no diga eso.
03:27Hello?
03:28Hello?
03:31Javier.
03:32Javier broke immigration law by overstaying a tourist visa.
03:36He'd applied for residency before he was arrested and was awaiting a decision.
03:41Now he's in a detention center facing deportation.
03:48The couple's youngest daughter is a US citizen because she was born in America.
03:53Javier.
03:54How are the girls doing?
03:56When they ask me when they come back, I tell them that everything will be fine.
04:02Before all this happened, we felt safe here.
04:07Now it's a total nightmare.
04:11Under previous administrations, Javier would probably not have been detained while his application
04:17was being decided.
04:25But decisions often took years and many Americans were angry about the rising number of immigrants.
04:32During his election campaign, President Trump promised voters a crackdown.
04:38On my first day back in the White House, I will terminate every open border policy
04:43of the Biden administration, stop the invasion on our southern border.
04:47And begin the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.
04:53We have no choice.
04:54His administration is trying to overturn the right of people born in America
04:59to immigrant parents to get automatic citizenship.
05:07ICE is getting an extra $75 billion of funding.
05:13And the number of ICE agents has more than doubled to 22,000.
05:19They've been sent to US cities to detain and deport some of America's estimated 14 million undocumented immigrants.
05:28He is threatening to arrest everybody if we don't move. It's happening right now.
05:32The rate of ICE arrests has quadrupled since President Trump's return to office.
05:39400,000 people detained nationwide.
05:43Let them go! Let them go! Let them go!
05:50How many people does the Trump administration want to deport?
05:55They've said anyone who is deportable is on the table.
05:58How many people would you allow to stay here who are currently designated as undocumented immigrants?
06:04Zero. It is bad policy to provide amnesty because it just encourages more illegal immigration in the future.
06:11There are roughly 14 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
06:16To actually deport 4% of the U.S. population, roughly one in every 24 people in the country,
06:22would cost hundreds of billions of dollars and impose enormous economic damage on the country.
06:27But President Trump would say that he was elected with a mandate to do exactly what he's doing now.
06:33I think when you look at what he said on the campaign trail,
06:36mass deportations was a term he never defined.
06:45Last December, the Trump administration launched Operation Metro Surge.
06:504,000 federal agents were sent to Minnesota.
07:02In early January, mother of three, Renee Goode, was shot dead while observing an ICE operation in Minneapolis.
07:12The Department of Homeland Security said the agent shot her in self-defense.
07:17Shame! Oh my f***ing God!
07:23Shame! Shame!
07:26Don't let the murderer leave!
07:29Don't let the murderer leave!
07:31At the time, President Trump also defended the shooting.
07:36The moment was very violent.
07:38She's a very radical person.
07:40Very sad what happened.
07:41The President stands with ICE.
07:43I stand with ICE.
07:44We stand with all of our law enforcement officers.
07:47That is police brutality!
07:49They are hitting that observer!
07:5217 days later, federal agents shot dead another observer in Minneapolis.
07:58Intensive care nurse Alex Pretty.
08:00He had a permit to carry a concealed weapon and had a gun in his waistband.
08:06Close examination of the footage appears to show he was disarmed before he was shot.
08:18Once again, the Trump administration defended the killing.
08:23This individual who came with weapons and ammunition to stop a law enforcement operation of federal law enforcement officers committed
08:32an act of domestic terrorism.
08:33That's the facts.
08:38President Trump later said the two shootings shouldn't have happened and that his government's investigating.
08:45But the authorities in Minnesota are suing the federal government for failing to cooperate with the local police investigations.
08:59Thank you for being here.
09:03We have people coming every day to remember Alex Pretty and Renee Good.
09:08Because what they witnessed and what they saw, no one can tell them that they saw something else.
09:14This is a campaign of fear and it's a campaign of making America whiter and anti-immigrant.
09:22And our neighbors here don't care for that and don't support it.
09:28The shootings have divided America.
09:35Donald Trump ran on removing the illegal immigrants.
09:39Republicans are here tonight to hear from candidates who want to be the next governor of Minnesota.
09:45Some here blame protesters for provoking confrontation.
09:48I mean, what are they doing there?
09:51They're just interrupting law enforcement.
09:54It's a tragedy but the two people who got killed are largely responsible for their home deaths.
10:02They were very foolish.
10:15It's mid-February and we're going to see one of the thousands of families
10:19who've been hiding in Minneapolis since the start of the ICE operation.
10:25They think they'll be targeted if they leave their home or show their faces on camera.
10:32It's been scary. It's been a very difficult time.
10:36And there's a lot of fear and trauma in my family.
10:42The couple, who were calling Lisbeth and Alfonso, arrived from Mexico as children more than 20 years ago.
10:51They both applied to stay in the U.S. and she's been granted temporary residency.
10:57In another time, this would have been okay and enough to live a normal life.
11:03But in this administration, it means that our process has no validation.
11:09We can be detained and he can get deported at any time.
11:14She was a community worker and her husband works in construction and catering.
11:21They gave up work because of the ICE operation, but he's now gone back.
11:26I begged him not to go to work, but he told me we still need to eat and pay the
11:32bills.
11:32Their two children were born in America and are U.S. citizens.
11:38But they're now being taught at home.
11:40Local schools have warned that ICE has been targeting families on the school run.
11:45Sometimes I really want to come back to Mexico City and start a new life for us and, like, freedom
11:55for my kids.
11:59What is your single biggest fear?
12:02That they see me handcuffed like a criminal.
12:06That in their little minds, they have that image in their heads forever of seeing their parents handcuffed.
12:16There are almost five million mixed-status families like this in the U.S., where some members of the family
12:24have the right to live in America and others could be deported.
12:29Deportation would tear those families apart or disrupt them significantly.
12:33It may mean children have to depart the United States despite being U.S. citizens or live with another family
12:39member.
12:39Unfortunately, people have made decisions that to either violate the law or continue to do so.
12:46And that means then it impacts others around them.
12:50People need to take responsibility for themselves and for decisions that they've made and the consequences.
12:58The Trump administration says that ICE is going after the most serious criminals, the worst of the worst.
13:06Boy, these are rough characters.
13:10These are all criminal, illegal aliens that, in many cases, they're murderers, they're drug lords.
13:18What's your name?
13:23While some of those arrested by ICE have been convicted of serious crimes,
13:2770% don't have any convictions in the U.S. at all.
13:33Mass deportations, for most people, meant going after the bad guys.
13:37But there aren't that many so-called bad guys.
13:40Most undocumented immigrants live lives that, yes, are in violation of immigration law, but are otherwise fairly normal.
13:54In Minnesota, there's an extensive network of volunteers helping people who are afraid to go out.
14:01This one food bank is making around 5,000 home deliveries a week.
14:07The scale of this operation tells you two things.
14:11One, the amount of people who are prepared to help.
14:13And two, the amount of people who need that help.
14:19Why do people need these food deliveries? Why are they afraid to go out?
14:24Because they are afraid to be captured.
14:27Not all are undocumented.
14:29Even people with legal status.
14:33U.S. citizens, legal residents, are afraid to do this, to go out and be detained.
14:40These are not the worst of the worst. These are the best of the best.
14:45These people, they have good things to offer to this country.
14:50The volunteers here are nearly all white.
14:54They say that's because people of color have been arrested on food runs.
14:59My dad, he got pulled over doing the same thing what we're doing.
15:03And then the one hour, they just transported him to Texas.
15:07The exact way, no hearing from his lawyer, no nothing.
15:12After his arrest, their father spent 16 nights in detention before he was released.
15:18Ellie, whose four children are U.S. citizens, came to America illegally 29 years ago,
15:24but was close to being granted permanent residency.
15:27I thought it was something unjust that they were doing to me,
15:31because I had my license, my job permit,
15:36and I was waiting for my green card to be able to see everyone.
15:41I put my hands, my feet, with a chain.
15:45All here, all here.
15:47It's like a criminal.
15:56Community groups in Minnesota say they've trained 35,000 people how to safely monitor and observe ICE agents.
16:04We are going to the hotel they've been staying at for at least the last month.
16:10I guarantee you there'll be at least one ICE vehicle there.
16:14Madison is on patrol most mornings.
16:17But are you breaking the law by following them?
16:19Absolutely not.
16:20From a safe distance?
16:22Yeah, from a safe distance, you are completely allowed to observe federal operations.
16:27I'm not allowed to impede them, but it's kind of hard to impede people from behind.
16:33They've compiled their own database of vehicles they say are used by the agency.
16:39I can see this one plate.
16:41I can run that one.
16:43That's confirmed ICE.
16:4414 reports on that one.
16:47This person here is filming us.
16:49Yep.
16:50Don't know why.
16:52She's probably a nice agent.
16:55Madison knows it can be dangerous work.
16:58A federal agent appeared to pull a gun on her when she drove past his vehicle in January.
17:04Don't worry.
17:07We've verified the footage.
17:10Are you conscious at all of the risks you're taking?
17:13I mean, two people, Alex Prady, René Goode have been shot dead.
17:17Both were observers.
17:19I am ready to die for this country to try and turn it into what it's supposed to be.
17:23I am well aware that that is a possibility.
17:25But I do a lot to try and make sure that does not happen to me.
17:36Carolina is waiting for news about her husband.
17:39Javier Abreu, who needs daily medication following a kidney transplant, has been at detention for a week.
17:45I am with my emotions mixed.
17:50I have the hope.
17:52But at the same time, I ask if he does not come back.
17:56Everything goes in my head, all the questions, all the thoughts.
18:02He's facing deportation, though he has no criminal record.
18:08Hello, good morning.
18:09Do you have a few minutes to talk right now?
18:11Yes.
18:13Okay.
18:15So, Javier, the judge approved a fee of $12,000?
18:20I don't know what's that bad.
18:25The lawyer gave me good news and told me that the judge approved the fee of my husband.
18:31It's $12,000 that I have to pay.
18:35How do you get that?
18:37I don't know, but there are people who are struggling.
18:42I'm happy, happy, happy, happy.
18:50The number of migrants in detention centres reached 70,000 in January.
18:56That's almost double the number detained at the start of President Trump's second term.
19:02Many are held hundreds of miles from their homes.
19:07Javier was sent to a detention centre in Texas, close to the Mexican border.
19:12There it is, Camp East Montana, a vast complex of tents.
19:18It's currently the largest detention centre in the ICE network.
19:244,000 people can be held here.
19:28An ICE inspection found failings with medical provision, use of force and keeping detainees safe.
19:34It was rated adequate overall.
19:37One detainee died in January after being restrained by guards.
19:41ICE said a second death that month was believed to be a suicide.
19:46Ellie was in Camp East Montana at the time.
19:52All the colour is white, everything is white.
19:55People are stressed a lot.
19:58Not only me, many colleagues were very stressed.
20:01One looks like it's okay, but I don't know.
20:03I think it's a trauma that will stay for, I don't know how long,
20:09but it affects me a lot, my family, my wife, my children.
20:17This morning, I conducted an unannounced visit to the ICE detention facility in my district, Camp East Montana.
20:27We've had TB, tuberculosis outbreaks.
20:30We now have measles inside the facility.
20:33I was speaking to a man who had been detained.
20:36He had been so violently apprehended that the agents broke his arm.
20:43I could see the bone break.
20:46I asked him, did you alert the staff here at Camp East Montana?
20:51And he said, I've been alerting them every day.
20:54I'm so desperate, he said.
20:56I just want to be deported so I can check myself into a hospital in my home country.
21:02The process, I believe, is intended to be cruel.
21:13In a gun shop in nearby El Paso, there are very different views about the detention centers.
21:19We can get the real conservative we've always deserved.
21:22That's what I think we're going to do this time.
21:24This is a campaign event for Brandon Herrera.
21:27He's running for Congress in Texas' 23rd District.
21:35There's something like 70,000 people currently in detention centers in America.
21:39That's a lot of people.
21:40Actually, I would say that, if anything, I think the numbers are quite low.
21:45Our immigration system, as it is, is wrought with inefficiencies.
21:48I think at a certain point you can't just selectively decide which of your country's laws you're going to enforce.
21:53Bottom line, you are 100 percent behind President Trump's immigration policies.
21:57And I'm willing to be there in D.C., try to help him in the legislature to make it, again,
22:03more aggressive, again, on the criminal illegals.
22:15President Trump's supporters say you can see the success of his policies along the Mexican border.
22:23What the government calls border encounters have fallen dramatically.
22:28And over the past nine months, not a single person stopped here has been allowed into the U.S.
22:36While we were here filming, Border Patrol spotted two people trying to cross the border up there on the brow
22:42of that hill.
22:44They quickly arrested them and told us they would be sent straight back.
22:58We're right on the border where we're physically standing right now.
23:02We have been offering shelter to the refugees that have been crossing the border ever since Annunciation House came into
23:12existence in 78.
23:14Ruben Garcia's charity in El Paso used to house around a thousand people a night.
23:21Last night, there were just 18.
23:24Does it say that the administration's immigration policy has worked, at least here in El Paso?
23:30The numbers right now are very, very low.
23:34But this isn't the first time we have seen very, very low numbers.
23:39Do I see individuals suffering because of policies?
23:45Absolutely.
23:46Absolutely.
23:47I think it's important for us to hear their stories and then to ask ourselves, is this who we want
23:54to be?
23:5929 people died in detention centers last year, the highest number in 20 years.
24:06So far this year, 15 detainees have died.
24:10As part of its budget increase, ICE has $45 billion to spend on detention centers.
24:17The plan is to have space for 93,000 detainees by November.
24:23It includes converting these buildings near El Paso to hold around 8,000 people.
24:30These warehouses in the desert and more planned across the country really illustrate the industrialization of this administration's immigration policy.
24:47Immigration detention has long been part of immigration law.
24:51I have visited immigration detention centers and I've observed the very high standards in terms of shelter, health care, dental,
25:05recreational, legal access opportunities.
25:09In the last year, you're saying you've visited such centers?
25:12No, not in the last year.
25:14And in terms of the new policy of converting, repurposing warehouses for the detention of people, does that raise any
25:25alarm bells with you?
25:28I'm sure they'll have to meet the same standards as other centers.
25:32That the Trump administration believes that warehouses are where human beings can be kept for significant periods of time is
25:43demonstrative of the incredible cruelty and inhumanity.
25:48What about people who did enter the country here illegally?
25:51Shouldn't they be straightforwardly deported?
25:54If their only crime has been to walk across the border without documents, I think there should be a process
26:01for them to regularize their status and be able to remain here.
26:07We wrote twice. They didn't respond.
26:13The White House said the president's highest priority has been the deportation of illegal alien criminals and that they had
26:19the most secure border in U.S. history.
26:22They said new agreements with local police represent unprecedented levels of cooperation and that local officials should want to work
26:30with federal law enforcement to keep communities safe.
26:35President Trump has appointed a new Homeland Security Secretary and said that ICE could use a softer touch.
26:43But billions of dollars are still being spent on new facilities and manpower.
26:50ICE has already deported almost half a million people in the president's second term.
26:56President Trump's commitment to his policy of mass detention and deportation remains undiminished, meaning millions of people face a future
27:09defined by uncertainty and fear.
27:14It's a policy that many Americans still support.
27:21Back in Minnesota, the ICE operation ended after 4,000 arrests.
27:29Thousands of people are no longer in hiding and one family is being reunited.
27:44After 13 days in detention, Javier Abreu has been released. A judge will decide later this year if he can
27:53stay in America with his family.
27:55How was it where you were?
27:58How was it where you were?
28:05What's it like to be with your family again?
28:07How was it like to be with your family?
28:11How was it going to be with your family again?
28:11How was it going to be with your family again?
28:12I was happy for the moment, but I was with a gift that I didn't want to be here.
28:18Because now I'm limited.
28:25Like millions of other undocumented immigrants, Javier could still be deported, as President Trump delivers on his promise to crack
28:34down on immigration.
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