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Il direttore dell'Agenzia internazionale dell'energia, Fatih Birol, ha detto a Euronews che l'Ue deve abbracciare la 'nuova era dell'elettricità' per rafforzare la competitività industriale.
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03:28E, of course, that takes us to the idea
03:29that this is not necessarily a supply crisis
03:31but a price crisis.
03:32I do want to ask you...
03:33Exactly. But also, let's not forget
03:35that many companies, after I made this announcement,
03:38many companies, the Lufthansa,
03:42the Scandinavian, the Ryanair,
03:44and all of them, KLM, they cut their flights.
03:47And they cut their flights.
03:48And just on this point,
03:50because I think this is very important,
03:52some certainly in Brussels
03:53believed that statements like that,
03:55they were contributing to fear-mongering.
03:58Is that something that you would go,
03:59no, this is my duty and I had to say what I said
04:02and I stand by those comments?
04:04Our motto is very clear.
04:06No fear, no favor.
04:08We look at the data,
04:09we say give a wake-up call to the countries
04:12and if we didn't give this wake-up call,
04:14they wouldn't rush to get from Nigeria
04:17and the United States.
04:18And thanks to them,
04:20thanks to our wake-up call,
04:22they were able to get some jet fuel
04:24from the U.S. and Nigeria,
04:26which barely now,
04:28this is the problem.
04:29So in that sense,
04:31is the situation,
04:32the outlook now for Europe
04:34looking relatively better
04:36compared to two months ago
04:37or is it still uncertainty?
04:39Because we're seeing the Commission
04:40just got their forecast
04:41for growth this year.
04:42Yes.
04:42I would not say better,
04:44but less worse than before.
04:47And what does that mean this year?
04:49Until, of course,
04:50we don't know what will happen
04:51with the state of Hormuz,
04:52I very much hope that very soon
04:55we get a fully and unconditional
04:57opening of the state of Hormuz.
04:59If it doesn't happen,
05:01the problem with the jet fuel
05:03and diesel and beyond
05:04will be with us for weeks to come.
05:07And is there a timeline
05:08that you foresee?
05:10Because the Trump administration
05:11has been saying now for weeks
05:12that there is a plan.
05:14Manifestedly,
05:15the state of Hormuz is still shut.
05:16So is there a timeline
05:17that you work with?
05:18Yes.
05:18I very much hope
05:20that the state of Hormuz
05:21is open fully
05:23and unconditionally
05:25because in the absence
05:26of the opening of the state,
05:29we will have serious problems
05:31with both the energy sector
05:34but also agricultural sector
05:37because a lot of fertilizers
05:38go from the state.
05:41And the problem is the following.
05:43The month of July and August,
05:47we are starting the traveling season,
05:49demand goes up,
05:50and also planting season
05:52for the farmers.
05:53So we are seeing on one hand
05:56the supply,
05:57the production of the energy
06:00and the fertilizers
06:02are going down.
06:03and at the same time,
06:05the demand is going up
06:06because of the seasonal movements.
06:08The U.S. was very critical
06:10of the Europeans,
06:11certainly in the context of NATO,
06:12that they are not, quote,
06:13doing enough
06:14to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
06:16Is there a form of criticism
06:17on the Europeans for your part?
06:19Or do you understand
06:20where they're coming from?
06:20They cannot just open this overnight
06:23and this is a global crisis.
06:24Yeah.
06:25I mean, geopolitical situation
06:26is very fragile
06:27and it is not a secret
06:30that there are different views
06:31between the countries,
06:33even the two sides of Atlantic.
06:36But despite that,
06:37I can tell you
06:38that one of the reasons
06:39why we are not
06:40in a worse shape today,
06:42International Energy Agency,
06:44us, on 11th of March,
06:46I announced
06:47that we released
06:48400 million dollars of oil.
06:50It was a historical release.
06:50Historical release.
06:52It gave a lot of comfort
06:53to the market
06:53and we were able
06:55to get this release
06:57with the unanimously.
06:59United States
06:59and Europe
07:00came together
07:01together with Japan
07:01and the other countries.
07:03So it was a real success story.
07:04But at some point,
07:05the market
07:06is going to look at it
07:07and say,
07:08is this enough
07:08if the Strait of Hormuz
07:09does not reopen?
07:10but do you foresee
07:11another release
07:13will be needed this year?
07:14That release
07:15brought the price
07:17to $20 down,
07:18which is very good,
07:19very important
07:19for Europe
07:20and for everybody
07:21in the world,
07:22most people in the world,
07:24I should say.
07:25And it was,
07:25even though it was historic,
07:27400 million dollars,
07:28it was only 20%
07:30of the reserves we have.
07:32Still 80% is here.
07:34If it is needed,
07:36we will be ready
07:37to release those stocks
07:39when,
07:39and it is decided.
07:41So this is something
07:41that you contemplate
07:42and that you believe
07:43the different members,
07:45the U.S.,
07:45the Europeans
07:46and not just,
07:47will participate
07:47if a second round
07:48is needed?
07:49So we are,
07:50of course,
07:50always monitoring
07:51the markets
07:52if there is a need
07:53or not.
07:54I am discussing
07:55with the government
07:56leaders in Europe,
07:58U.S.,
07:58Japan,
07:59Korea
07:59and the others.
08:00If there is a need,
08:01we are ready
08:02to act immediately.
08:03And you're thinking
08:04this would be
08:04by the summer
08:05if you get to Q3
08:07and there is still
08:07no resolution?
08:08Is there a date
08:09you work with
08:09or this is just
08:10an intention?
08:11No,
08:11this is a plan.
08:14If it is in place,
08:15if there is a need
08:16and we will decide
08:18when it is
08:18depending on
08:19the market conditions,
08:20especially what will
08:21happen with
08:22the state of Hormuz.
08:24This is not
08:24necessarily a supply
08:26crisis.
08:26The oil could be pumping.
08:28The issue is,
08:28well,
08:29the Gulf countries
08:29have been attacked
08:30and you cannot get
08:31the oil out
08:31through the Strait of Hormuz.
08:32So it is a pricing issue
08:33for the Europeans.
08:34There's a lot
08:35of concern in Europe
08:36that given the background
08:37of what happened
08:38in 2022,
08:39the EU cannot enter
08:40another bidding war.
08:42We've seen
08:42the Italian prime minister
08:43very critical saying
08:45oil at this level,
08:46this is really hard
08:48in the industry.
08:49What's the alternative?
08:50What can be done?
08:51So in fact,
08:52as a word,
08:52we are a bit fortunate
08:53because before we
08:55entered this crisis,
08:57before the 28th of February,
08:59we had a lot of oil
09:01in the markets,
09:01a surplus of oil.
09:03And after this crisis
09:05has started,
09:06we use the surplus
09:08and we release
09:09some stocks.
09:10We are using that
09:11as well.
09:12And the stocks
09:13are coming
09:14to almost a zero line.
09:17If the stocks
09:18continue to come down
09:19so much,
09:20plus the July-August,
09:22the demand is going up
09:23because of the
09:23traveling season,
09:24so I would call
09:26we are entering
09:27the red zone
09:28in terms of
09:29of the implications
09:31on the markets.
09:32What does it mean?
09:33It means we may well see
09:35the inflation numbers
09:36in Europe
09:37and in Europe
09:38will go up.
09:40Economic growth
09:41will suffer.
09:42Europe will definitely
09:43once again
09:44after the Russia's
09:46invasion of Ukraine,
09:47we already went
09:48through this difficult time.
09:50We may face again
09:51a difficult time
09:52if the situation
09:53is not better
09:55and if the problem
09:57with the hormones
09:57is not solved.
09:59In a difficult time
10:00means what?
10:01Because there is
10:01a disagreement
10:02among members
10:03of the EU
10:03that the commission
10:04has not put forward
10:05all the measures
10:06that it could.
10:07Some member states
10:08say this is a real crisis,
10:10it's a quiet crisis
10:11because the spike
10:11in prices
10:12is not overnight
10:13but it has stayed
10:14elevated for a long time
10:15now.
10:16What more can be done?
10:17Do you understand
10:18the frustrations
10:18of Georgia Milani?
10:20Let's say she's
10:20been very vocal
10:20about this.
10:21I think this is
10:22all the leaders
10:23in Europe
10:24are concerned
10:26about this,
10:26I can tell you
10:27all the European leaders
10:28but not only Europe
10:29I was in the UK
10:31it's everywhere
10:32around the world
10:33the Japanese Prime Minister
10:34the Australian Prime Minister
10:36but Europe
10:37is at the heart of it
10:37because we already
10:39went through this
10:40four years ago
10:41it is the second time
10:42in a very short
10:43period of time.
10:44The European industry
10:45says they cannot deal
10:46with this again
10:46after four years.
10:46I hope not
10:47but I am afraid
10:49we will see
10:50some difficult times
10:52in terms of our economy
10:53the inflation numbers
10:55will go up
10:56and also
10:57our economic growth
10:59in Europe
10:59will suffer.
11:01The issue is
11:02not whether
11:04it will suffer
11:05or not
11:05how much
11:06it is going to suffer.
11:07This is my issue
11:08so the earlier
11:09the state of France
11:10is opened
11:11in a fully
11:11and unconditional way
11:13the better it is
11:14for our economy.
11:15because of course
11:16the world has said
11:17they will not pay
11:17any duties
11:18to the regime in Iran.
11:20The Europeans have been clear
11:21they will not pay
11:21for passage
11:22but I want to ask you
11:23as you say
11:24the question is
11:25how bad this will get.
11:26This is already
11:27triggered in a conversation
11:28that perhaps
11:29this is the moment
11:29to revisit
11:30some of the sanctions
11:31on Russia.
11:32We've seen the US
11:33extend this waiver.
11:34The UK seems to be thinking
11:35maybe not directly
11:36but yes to third countries.
11:37The European Union
11:38says this is not the time
11:39to ease the pressure
11:41on the Russians.
11:42Is that a scenario
11:43that you foresee
11:44ultimately this conversation
11:45as inevitable?
11:46So we talk about
11:47the oil crisis
11:49in 1970s
11:51Europe was a reaction
11:53to that.
11:53Europe made a lot
11:54of good things
11:55but also some
11:56I think wrong choices.
12:01For example
12:01many European countries
12:03at that time
12:04thought to over-reliance
12:06on Middle East
12:06was a risky thing
12:07which is true
12:08diagnosis is true
12:10but as a solution
12:11Europe pivoted
12:13to Russia.
12:15Over-reliance on Russia
12:16was a big mistake
12:16for Europe
12:17and we paid for that
12:18during the year
12:20of 2022
12:22and in my view
12:25knocking on the door
12:26for Russia
12:27again
12:28would be a major
12:30mistake.
12:31We made this mistake
12:32once
12:32once it's a mistake
12:34doing second time
12:35is not a mistake.
12:36So you're saying
12:37to knock on the door
12:38of Russia
12:39Vladimir Putin
12:39would be
12:40not just a strategic mistake
12:42but almost a fatal error
12:43for the Europeans?
12:44I, to be honest with you
12:46there are many other
12:48options that Europe
12:49should look into
12:51which are
12:52more secure
12:53in terms of
12:54the energy system
12:56and in terms of
12:57the foreign
12:58and defense policies.
12:59And there's been
13:01of course a commission
13:02repeating
13:02in light of that conversation
13:03of the Russian sanctions
13:04that the goal
13:05is now to accelerate
13:06the green transition
13:07and produce clean
13:08and accessible
13:09homegrown energy.
13:10The problem is
13:11there's a very clear
13:11political pushback.
13:13There's this idea
13:14that has really manifested
13:16in a part of the
13:17European public opinion
13:18that green energy
13:19is not the solution
13:20it will not provide security
13:21and it also comes
13:22at a cost premium.
13:23Is this the end
13:24of the green wave
13:25for the Europeans?
13:27First of all
13:29it is green
13:31or clean
13:32whatever you call it
13:33renewables
13:34will get a major
13:37major boost
13:37from this
13:38but not only renewables
13:39nuclear power
13:40will get a strong boost
13:42of course
13:43both renewables
13:44and nuclear power
13:45will be
13:45the response
13:48to this
13:48but
13:49from one day
13:50to another
13:50we cannot
13:52replace
13:53all the oil
13:54and gas
13:54we have here
13:55with renewables
13:56and nuclear power
13:58we should push them
13:59but in the meantime
14:00we should
14:01try to have
14:02bring our
14:03oil and gas
14:04from countries
14:05from regions
14:07which are
14:08not posing threat
14:09to European
14:11sovereignty
14:11European economy
14:13and will not use
14:14energy as a weapon
14:15in the
14:17international affairs.
14:18And that you look
14:19at the US
14:20although some would argue
14:20at this point
14:21their relationship
14:21is very rocky
14:22also you look at
14:23Norway
14:24and a number
14:25of other countries
14:26that you could point to
14:26but there's again
14:27the question
14:27of the price
14:28differentiation
14:28the European industry
14:30says at this point
14:31they already suffer
14:32from the scars
14:32of 2022
14:33and they cannot
14:34compete on equal footing
14:35when it comes to China
14:36and the US
14:37do you hear this criticism
14:38and what can be done?
14:39so again
14:42the mistake
14:43we made
14:43after 1970s
14:44from
14:46overreliance
14:47on Middle East
14:48going to overreliance
14:49on Russia
14:49is a huge mistake
14:51a major mistake
14:53and in my view
14:54the golden rule
14:55my golden rule
14:56number one
14:57for energy security
14:58is diversification
14:59we have to diversify
15:01as much as possible
15:02and this time
15:03we shouldn't
15:04have overreliance
15:05on one single country
15:07but at the same time
15:08we should find
15:09the countries
15:10where we can import
15:12energy
15:13securely
15:13but at affordable prices
15:15do you worry
15:16there's an overreliance
15:18and I don't want to start
15:18a diplomatic incident
15:19but is there an overreliance
15:21on the US
15:21as a provider of energy
15:23the criticism
15:23has been in the context
15:24of this trade deal
15:25that was assigned
15:26that the Europeans
15:27are not developing
15:28as much
15:28their internal
15:29homegrown capacities
15:30because they're committing
15:31to billions
15:32to facilities
15:33outside of the European Union
15:34is that the risk
15:35that you replace
15:36Russia with the United States
15:37under Trump
15:38US is a major
15:41oil and LNG
15:43gas exporter
15:44now
15:44and it is very normal
15:46that Europe
15:46should get oil
15:48and gas
15:49from the United States
15:51but whoever it is
15:52it can be US
15:54it can be Norway
15:55it can be
15:55we should diversify it
15:57we shouldn't put
15:58all the eggs
15:59in one basket
16:00this is the rule
16:01number one for me
16:02for the energy security
16:03and I have two final
16:04questions on this point
16:05there is a debate
16:07certainly in the European
16:08Parliament
16:08but also at the
16:09top levels
16:10of the European Commission
16:11about what to do
16:12with some of the laws
16:13that have been approved
16:14they have been approved
16:14they are the law now
16:15but the implementation
16:16the dates
16:17the timeline
16:18perhaps suspending
16:19some of those
16:20green clauses
16:21which now have become
16:22clean
16:22nobody talks about green
16:23they talk about clean
16:24now
16:24is that a fair case
16:26is this the time
16:27to say
16:27let's just stop
16:29adding things
16:29take a breather
16:30this is a crisis
16:31let's just pause it
16:32in my view
16:34this crisis
16:36is a very important
16:37time for Europe
16:39to rethink
16:40it is energy
16:41strategy
16:42long term energy
16:43strategy
16:43because I believe
16:44European competitiveness
16:46and European sovereignty
16:48will critically hinge
16:50on
16:50what is our energy
16:52strategy
16:52now
16:53we will use oil
16:54and gas
16:54for some time
16:55to come
16:56it is impossible
16:57to replace it
16:57but
16:58in my view
16:59Europe's energy
17:01future
17:01is electrification
17:03we will not
17:04suddenly
17:05discover
17:05in France
17:07or in Germany
17:07or in Poland
17:08somewhere
17:09huge amount
17:10of oil and gas
17:11it has been
17:11it would have been
17:12already been discovered
17:13but electricity
17:14we can generate
17:16electricity
17:17from renewables
17:18from nuclear power
17:20maybe from natural gas
17:21from other things
17:22and we should
17:23electrify our economies
17:25as much as possible
17:26we should
17:27our
17:27transportation system
17:29as much as possible
17:31electric cars
17:32we should
17:33our
17:33why is it not happening
17:34Dr. Baral
17:35it is
17:36I think
17:36we have not
17:37we have not yet
17:39given enough
17:41attention to this
17:42for me
17:43electrification
17:44is not an
17:45environmental issue
17:46primarily
17:47it is
17:48a sovereignty
17:49of Europe
17:49defense of Europe
17:51foreign police
17:52of Europe
17:52European economy
17:53should be strong
17:54on its own feet
17:56and if we want this
17:58electrification
17:58is the future
17:59for me
18:00and just as a final question
18:01of course
18:01this is happening
18:02in the context
18:03of a deeper debate
18:04much back to
18:05the Mari Draghi report
18:07in which he talks
18:08about the idea
18:09of defense
18:09energy
18:10the economy
18:11ultimately
18:11this is a big package
18:13you cannot look at them
18:14in silos
18:15I wonder
18:16however
18:17are you disappointed
18:18perhaps
18:18at the pace
18:19of things
18:20in which
18:20things seem to be
18:21moving in Europe
18:22the fact that
18:23we're still debating
18:23whether a nuclear
18:24will be part
18:24of a transition
18:25or not
18:26are you disappointed
18:27about the fact
18:27that the EU
18:29seems to not
18:30want to spend
18:31perhaps the money
18:32that Mario Draghi
18:33says will be needed
18:34is there still
18:35an element
18:35in which this machine
18:37is just not
18:37taken off
18:38yeah
18:38I mean there is a lot
18:40of Europe bashing
18:41around the world
18:42I travel around the world
18:43I go to Asia
18:44Latin America
18:45North America
18:46they bash Europe
18:48no they bash
18:49Europe
18:49and I think
18:50Europeans bash Europe
18:52more than the others
18:53themselves
18:53now
18:54I tell you something
18:55the Europeans bash
18:55themselves too much
18:55of course
18:57too much
18:57and they are a bit
18:58unfair to Europe
18:59Europeans
19:00but everybody else
19:01now
19:01I have to tell you
19:02something
19:02when I go around
19:03the world
19:03if I ask the people
19:05in Asia
19:06Latin America
19:06North America
19:07where would you
19:08like to live
19:09number one
19:09always comes to Europe
19:11because Europe
19:11has the values
19:14which are very important
19:15for the humans
19:16democratic values
19:17we have great
19:18institutions
19:18but
19:19in terms of energy
19:21I am an energy man
19:21I can talk about energy
19:22we didn't make
19:23the right choices
19:24all the time
19:24we made
19:25a lot of mistakes
19:26but now
19:27we have to be
19:27very clear
19:29electrification
19:29is the future
19:30for our sovereignty
19:31for our competitiveness
19:32and if we make
19:34energy decisions
19:36right
19:36I think Europe
19:38will be very strong
19:39in terms of
19:40its economy
19:41foreign policy
19:42and defence
19:43I believe
19:44it is at the heart
19:45of energies
19:46now
19:46at the heart
19:47of European
19:48competitiveness
19:49and sovereignty
19:50of the continent
19:51well Dr. Fethi Rural
19:52thank you so much
19:53for joining us
19:54on Euronews
19:54thank you
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