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00:00Grazie a tutti.

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04:46stoppio, si fanno perdere.

04:48That is the same with Vladimir Putin.

04:51For example, everybody

04:52in Europe, and I always remind my colleagues

04:54that right now Putin has

04:56more men under the arms than at the start

04:58of the war. If we would stop

05:00right now, and he would stop right now

05:02killing women and children in Ukraine,

05:05then

05:06what to do with those guys? They need medical

05:08assistance, but they have to glorify this hero

05:10in Russia. And they will come

05:12all over the Europe and so on. So we will

05:14have everybody problems in Russia and also

05:16domestic security problems. And the Americans

05:18of course are leading these peace talks.

05:21Do you think they're mindful

05:22of the fact that Ukraine cannot budge

05:24on their red lines?

05:26It used to be like a 28 points

05:28plan to the Thanksgiving.

05:30Right now it's something all different

05:32already. Europe stepping up, having

05:3490 billions, funding Ukraine

05:37changed the game.

05:38But we don't have 90 billions. It's frozen.

05:41We will have.

05:42Because meeting Ursula von der Leyen

05:44and Antonia Costa, they have

05:46different plans how to deliver the money.

05:48And just in Kiev, they

05:50also said that they have plans.

05:51What are these plans?

05:53They will tell.

05:54Are they going to work?

05:55I hope so. Because to be honest,

05:57if Europe cannot make

05:58this kind of big decisions, which

06:00affect our security,

06:03then probably there will be many

06:04discussions about how

06:06Europe will decide things altogether.

06:08Will there be some kind of enhanced cooperation,

06:10how it will go?

06:11But are we on plan C now?

06:12Because, of course, we spent months talking as well

06:14about the frozen Russian assets.

06:15They're off the table now.

06:16The Belgians have said so.

06:17So and so.

06:18Because they are not off the table.

06:20They are still frozen, which is a good thing.

06:22Because I can remember

06:24back to each

06:26six months we had to roll over

06:28the sanctions, say, keep them

06:30frozen. But right now they are frozen

06:31permanently, which is a good thing.

06:34But we need to deliver

06:35this 90 billion.

06:36We decided.

06:37And to be honest, we decided

06:39everybody was in this room.

06:41Orbán was in this room.

06:42Fico was in this room.

06:43Babis was in this room.

06:46They decided to opt out.

06:47But we still decided.

06:49So do you feel they're traitors?

06:50Well, Hungary's traitors for doing this?

06:51For a long time, I don't understand

06:53Viktor Orbán's position.

06:54But he exactly knows that

06:56nobody understands his position

06:57to have this kind of idea

06:59that we should ask

07:00for European security

07:02from a dictator from Russia.

07:04And are you being tough enough on him

07:05in these meetings?

07:07Everybody's been tough enough on him

07:09in this meeting

07:10and outside these meetings.

07:11But going forward,

07:12how do you deal with these vetoes

07:13in the future?

07:14We'll see how it goes

07:15because I have the feeling

07:17there's probably a couple of lines

07:18everybody's right now

07:19waiting in Europe.

07:20The first one is

07:21how Hungarian elections will go.

07:24Everybody knows that

07:25that can be a game changer.

07:27And the second thing is that

07:30there's also different kind of talks

07:31of how to change

07:33the deciding mechanisms.

07:34because, for example,

07:36on the economic side,

07:37Mario Draghi and his report

07:38said that we need

07:39more central deciding,

07:41more federalization.

07:42But on the security side,

07:44maybe some kind of

07:45enhanced cooperation

07:45to pull in Norway, UK,

07:48Canada, Iceland,

07:49these kind of countries

07:50which we need.

07:51One final question

07:52on the transatlantic bond,

07:54which is, of course,

07:54very important

07:55for both Brussels and DC,

07:57but it's going through

07:57a bit of a rift.

07:58How bad is it?

07:59Tough to say

08:00because on the one side,

08:03which Trump had the message

08:05that Europe should invest more

08:08in security

08:09because Europe is very free

08:12and wealthy neighborhood.

08:13And that's to my liking,

08:15to be honest,

08:16not the wording,

08:16but also the message

08:17that we should be able

08:19to keep ourselves

08:20the way we like it.

08:21Estonia is behaving accordingly

08:23because we have,

08:24this year,

08:25we have our defense expenditure

08:26of 5.4% of GDP.

08:28This is very tough thing

08:30to achieve.

08:31This is not easy.

08:32But at the same time,

08:33I know that my grandchildren

08:35will live in peace

08:36because our neighbor knows

08:37that we take ourselves

08:38also seriously.

08:39So if whole Europe

08:41would behave this way,

08:42I would say that

08:43we are better off

08:44in five, seven, ten years.

08:47But at the same time,

08:48the rhetorics

08:49that Europe is decaying gold

08:51and so and so

08:52and not free,

08:54this is not serious

08:55because if you look

08:56at different indexes,

08:58we are among

08:58the freest nations

08:59in the world.

09:03Estonian Prime Minister

09:04Christian Michal there.

09:05And the ongoing war

09:06in Ukraine

09:07and the spat

09:07over the Drespa pipeline

09:09is also under discussion

09:10over at NATO this week.

09:11Secretary-General

09:12Mark Lutte

09:13has welcomed

09:13a number of leaders,

09:14including the Lithuanian

09:15Prime Minister

09:16Inge Rugenjene.

09:17Our correspondent

09:18Shona Moore,

09:18Marie reports from NATO.

09:20Well, Nave,

09:21just as the dust

09:22has been relatively

09:23settling here at NATO

09:24in relation to

09:25Donald Trump's claims

09:26last month

09:27that he was going

09:27to take over Greenland,

09:29a new fissure has emerged.

09:31As we've seen,

09:32Viktor Orban,

09:33the Hungarian Prime Minister,

09:34saying he's going to block

09:35a 90 billion euro loan

09:36for Ukraine,

09:37a considerable amount

09:38of which was going to be spent

09:39on military support.

09:40And I caught up

09:41with Lithuania's Prime Minister.

09:43Lithuania, of course,

09:43a frontline state

09:45in all of this war,

09:46Inge Rugenjene,

09:47and I asked her

09:48about this situation.

09:49When you live,

09:50you know,

09:51in a border

09:51of the European Union,

09:53when you're faced

09:54off every day

09:55with the threats,

09:57different kind of threats

09:58from balloons

09:59and other things,

10:01when you're fighting

10:02for the security,

10:03not just for Lithuania,

10:05but for whole Europe,

10:06to hear such words

10:09and decisions,

10:11it's nonsense.

10:12So we are worrying

10:15about it

10:16and I am speaking

10:18about that

10:19in different levels

10:19in the European Union

10:21that it is unacceptable.

10:24And the European Union

10:26can be strong

10:27if we can have

10:28a strong one voice.

10:30So we have to be,

10:33we have to have ability

10:34to have common decision

10:36in very strategic questions.

10:39When you say

10:39it's nonsense,

10:40are you saying

10:41the whole

10:42point that Orban

10:43is making

10:44that Ukraine

10:45is blocking

10:46Hungary's access

10:47to the Drozhba pipeline,

10:49we know that Russia

10:50bombs the pipeline,

10:51are you saying

10:51it's nonsense

10:52his claims

10:53that Ukraine

10:54isn't fixing it,

10:55isn't bothered

10:56to fix it?

10:57It's almost yes.

10:59And, you know,

11:00for me,

11:01I don't understand

11:02that the person

11:03thinks that

11:04if the war

11:05will start

11:05in NATO area

11:07in European Union,

11:09he thinks that

11:10that it will not

11:12come to Hungary,

11:14I think it is,

11:15again,

11:16it is,

11:18it is quite

11:21silly,

11:21silly thinking.

11:23So you think basically,

11:24you know,

11:24Hungary is being naive here

11:26if he,

11:26if the Hungarian government

11:28believes that this war

11:29can't go to Hungary

11:30because it can?

11:31If Russia

11:32will put

11:34a step

11:35into European Union,

11:36they will go

11:38further.

11:39And we,

11:40as Lithuania,

11:42we have

11:43a big experience

11:44about Soviet Union

11:46times.

11:46We know

11:47how it's,

11:48how you feel

11:49when Russia

11:50comes to your land.

11:51We know

11:52how,

11:52how the life

11:53is going on.

11:55That's why

11:55for us

11:56it's very

11:56sensitive questions.

11:58That's why

11:59we,

11:59as Lithuania,

12:00invest a lot

12:01into defense.

12:02So this year

12:03we have

12:035.38%

12:06of GDP

12:07investments

12:08into defense.

12:09It is a huge amount.

12:10It is almost

12:1125%

12:13of whole

12:13our budget

12:14because we

12:15understand

12:16that we don't

12:17want to come back

12:18to that times,

12:19to that experience

12:20which we had

12:21in the past.

12:22Given the context

12:23of,

12:24let's say,

12:24slow Europe,

12:26non-unified Europe

12:27blockages

12:28by Hungary

12:28and the United States

12:30no longer

12:31supporting Ukraine

12:32militarily,

12:33does Europe

12:34have the capabilities

12:35to defend itself

12:37for a few years

12:38until it

12:39rebuilds that?

12:40I think

12:41we have to work

12:42for the situation

12:44that we have

12:45a very strong

12:46NATO

12:47alliance.

12:50And

12:50we have to do

12:52everything

12:53to build

12:55a very

12:56strong relationship

12:58between

12:59America

13:00and European

13:01Union.

13:01That is our

13:02top priority.

13:04Of course,

13:05we can speak

13:05about

13:06the worst

13:08plan,

13:09what it

13:10should be.

13:12But

13:12the first

13:14top priority

13:15should be

13:16strength

13:17relationship

13:18between

13:19transatlantic

13:20relationship.

13:21But by the

13:22same time,

13:23we have to

13:24work

13:26within

13:27European

13:28Union

13:29and

13:30strong

13:30unity.

13:32One

13:32voice

13:33is crucial

13:34today.

13:35So it

13:35should be

13:36working

13:38in both

13:38ways.

13:53Shona

13:54says EU

13:54members

13:55may use

13:55EU funds

13:56voluntarily

13:56to

13:57finance

13:57safe

13:57abortions

13:58but fell

13:59short of

13:59ensuring

13:59access

14:00across

14:00the

14:00EU.

14:01The

14:01campaign

14:02did

14:02manage

14:02though

14:02to

14:02clinch

14:03over

14:03one

14:03million

14:04endorsements

14:04and the

14:05nod from

14:05the

14:05European

14:06Parliament.

14:06Jakob Janis

14:07fills us in.

14:09over a

14:10million

14:10signatures

14:11are quite

14:12a number

14:12and the

14:13My Voice

14:13My Choice

14:14campaign

14:14recently

14:15collected

14:15them

14:16to ask

14:17the

14:17European

14:17Commission

14:18for EU

14:18money

14:19for

14:19accessing

14:20safe

14:20abortions

14:21in

14:21other

14:21member

14:21states

14:22and

14:22responding

14:23to

14:23this

14:23European

14:24Citizens

14:24Initiative

14:25yesterday

14:25the

14:26European

14:27Commission

14:27noted

14:27that

14:28health

14:28policy

14:28is

14:29a

14:29national

14:29matter

14:30and

14:30there

14:30will

14:30be

14:31no

14:31extra

14:31money

14:31allocated

14:32However

14:33and

14:33that's

14:34new

14:34the

14:35member

14:35states

14:35can

14:36voluntary

14:36use

14:37existing

14:37EU

14:37money

14:38to

14:38cover

14:38the

14:38costs

14:39But

14:39wait

14:40a

14:40second

14:40what

14:41is

14:41this

14:41European

14:41Initiative

14:42about

14:42Let's

14:43take

14:43a

14:44look

14:45This

14:45democratic

14:46tool

14:46allows

14:47everyday

14:47citizens

14:48to

14:48formally

14:49ask

14:49the

14:49EU

14:50to

14:50propose

14:50new

14:51laws

14:51no

14:51matter

14:52where

14:52they

14:52stand

14:53politically

14:53However

14:54to

14:54succeed

14:55an

14:56initiative

14:56needs

14:56at least

14:571

14:57million

14:58valid

14:58signatures

14:59from

14:59a

14:59minimum

15:00of

15:007

15:01member

15:01states

15:01And

15:02for

15:03the

15:03My

15:03Voice

15:03My

15:03Choice

15:04campaign

15:04Organizers

15:05got

15:05over a

15:06million

15:06verified

15:06signatures

15:07from

15:0819

15:08different

15:08countries

15:09And

15:10among

15:10them

15:10were

15:10Hungary

15:11Malta

15:11and

15:11Poland

15:12So

15:12countries

15:13with

15:13highly

15:14restrictive

15:14abortion

15:15policies

15:15Then

15:16the

15:17European

15:17Parliament

15:17must

15:18discuss

15:18the

15:19proposal

15:19And

15:20following

15:20that

15:21debate

15:21the

15:21European

15:21Commission

15:22is

15:22legally

15:22bound

15:23to

15:23respond

15:24And

15:24it

15:24has

15:25then

15:25two

15:25choices

15:26Either

15:27propose

15:27a

15:27new

15:27law

15:28or

15:28publicly

15:29explain

15:29why

15:30it

15:30will

15:30not

15:30do

15:30it

15:31So

15:32is

15:32that

15:32initiative

15:33actually

15:33useful?

15:34The

15:35answer

15:35is

15:35yes

15:36but

15:36it's

15:36not

15:37a

15:37magic

15:37wand

15:38Campaigns

15:39like

15:39Right

15:39to

15:40Water

15:40have

15:40genuinely

15:41resulted

15:41in

15:42revised

15:42EU

15:43laws

15:43improving

15:44drinking

15:44water

15:45standards

15:45Yet

15:46only

15:4714

15:47campaigns

15:48or

15:49about

15:491

15:50in

15:5010

15:50have

15:51ever

15:51guarded

15:52the

15:52required

15:52signatures

15:53And

15:54even

15:54then

15:55success

15:55isn't

15:56guaranteed

15:56as

15:57the

15:57Commission

15:57always

15:58retains

15:58the

15:59right

15:59to

15:59refuse

16:00new

16:00legislation

16:00So

16:02my

16:02dear

16:02viewers

16:03if

16:03you

16:03are

16:04passionate

16:04about

16:04an

16:04issue

16:05start

16:06collecting

16:06your

16:06million

16:07signatures

16:07and

16:08maybe

16:09set

16:09up

16:10your

16:10own

16:10lobbying

16:11group

16:11just

16:11in

16:12case

16:16And

16:16for

16:16more

16:16on

16:17this

16:17story

16:17that

16:17has

16:18gained

16:18huge

16:18traction

16:18on

16:19and

16:19offline

16:20we're

16:20joined

16:20now

16:20here

16:21in

16:21the

16:21studio

16:21by

16:21Austria's

16:22Minister

16:22for

16:22Women

16:23Science

16:23and

16:24Research

16:24Eva

16:25Maria

16:25Hulstleidner

16:25Good

16:26morning

16:26Welcome

16:26to Europe

16:27Today

16:27Quite

16:29an

16:29achievement

16:30there

16:301

16:31million

16:31signatures

16:31What's

16:32the view

16:32from

16:32Austria

16:32here?

16:331.2

16:34citizens

16:34signed

16:35the

16:35initiative

16:35and it's

16:36a very

16:36important

16:37one

16:37my

16:37voice

16:37my

16:38choice

16:38because

16:39in

16:39my

16:40point

16:40of

16:40view

16:40women's

16:41rights

16:41are

16:42a

16:42unique

16:43selling

16:43point

16:44of

16:44the

16:44European

16:44Union

16:45It's

16:46one

16:46of

16:46our

16:47huge

16:48differences

16:49to

16:49other

16:49global

16:50parts

16:51of the

16:52world

16:52and

16:53so

16:53to

16:53strengthen

16:54women's

16:55rights

16:55is

16:55very

16:56important

16:56for

16:56us

16:57for

16:57our

16:58democracy

16:58within

16:58the

16:59European

16:59Union

16:59And

16:59this

16:59campaign

17:00argued

17:00that

17:0020

17:01million

17:01women

17:01currently

17:02do not

17:02have

17:02access

17:03to

17:03funding

17:03for

17:03a

17:04safe

17:04abortion

17:05Do you

17:05think

17:05a more

17:05harmonized

17:06look at

17:07this

17:07in the

17:0727

17:08EU

17:08states

17:08could

17:09be

17:09a

17:09good

17:09idea?

17:10We

17:10know

17:10that

17:11health

17:11issues

17:11are

17:12always

17:12very

17:13important

17:13for

17:13European

17:14citizens

17:14when we

17:15look at

17:15surveys

17:16for

17:16example

17:17so

17:17it

17:18is

17:18a

17:19first

17:19step

17:20the

17:20answer

17:21of

17:21the

17:21commission

17:22but

17:22in

17:23the

17:23future

17:23maybe

17:23we

17:24can

17:24take

17:24a

17:25lot

17:25more

17:25steps

17:26towards

17:27saving

17:28and

17:28supporting

17:29women's

17:29rights

17:30in

17:30the

17:30European

17:31Union

17:31and

17:32yes

17:32the

17:32access

17:33to

17:33abortion

17:33is

17:34one

17:34of

17:35the

17:36most

17:36fundamental

17:37women's

17:38rights

17:38And

17:38in

17:38Austria

17:39you've

17:39declared

17:39war

17:39on

17:40violence

17:40against

17:40women

17:40and

17:41girls

17:41How

17:41are you

17:42implementing

17:42your

17:42plan

17:42in

17:43a

17:43world

17:43run

17:43by

17:43men?

17:44We

17:45have

17:45a

17:45national

17:45action

17:46plan

17:46against

17:47violence

17:47against

17:48women

17:48and

17:49girls

17:49and

17:50every

17:50ministry

17:51in

17:51Austria

17:51supports

17:52this

17:52national

17:53action

17:53plan

17:54and

17:54we

17:55worked

17:55together

17:55so

17:56also

17:56the

17:56Ministry

17:57for

17:57Interior

17:57for

17:58education

18:00also

18:01the

18:01male

18:01colleagues

18:02support

18:02this

18:03national

18:03action

18:04plan

18:04and

18:05I

18:05think

18:06this

18:06is

18:06very

18:06important

18:07because

18:07we

18:08also

18:08need

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