00:00Starting in 2027, you should see a near monthly cadence of robotic landers on the moon, several rovers.
00:08In fact, we provided an award for the first two, you know, crewed and autonomous capable rovers for the lunar
00:16surface.
00:17So when our astronauts arrive on Artemis 4 in 2028, they're going to already have some infrastructure of the moon
00:22base waiting for them.
00:23They're already going to have a rover waiting for them.
00:25And then in that time frame, it's not just intermittent anymore.
00:31It's not just those monthly visits.
00:32But when do you think people will be working?
00:35Humans might even be living in some capacity on the moon there.
00:39So we are approaching the moon base in phases.
00:42So phase one is a lot of littles.
00:45We are dusting off the playbook that worked very well for NASA in the 1960s.
00:49We're getting back to an iterative approach.
00:51So, you know, there was the Mercury program before there was Gemini.
00:54There was Gemini before Apollo and an awful lot of Apollo missions before we went right to the moon landing
01:00on Apollo 11.
01:00We are doing the same thing now.
01:02So phase one, we're calling it a science of survival.
01:05We're not going to lock in what the mobility strategy should be for logistics, for astronauts, the power strategy, the
01:13surface comms, the orbital comms.
01:14Why would we try and nail and get all of that perfect today when we haven't been to the moon
01:19in more than a half century?
01:20So phase one will be a lot of landings.
01:23Again, that near monthly cadence to learn and inform phase two, where perhaps now you're putting a lot more tonnage
01:29on the lunar surface.
01:30You have a lot more direction as to the type of hardware and capabilities you want to lock in on.
01:36So you don't need to have maybe monthly landings when we get into phase two, but you have a lot
01:41more direction as to what should work for our intended objectives, which is to build out that habitable environment.
01:46And then phase two, we're going to learn now having astronauts go from, let's call it a period of maybe
01:52even days on the lunar surface in phase one to potentially weeks in phase two, to where you might get
01:58by the time we move into phase three, a similar astronaut rotation like you see on the International Space Station,
02:04where we could have crews potentially being on the lunar surface for months on end.
02:09You don't have that marked on your calendar, administrator, when phase three might have a base that has humans actually
02:16living and working inside it?
02:18Oh, we absolutely have timeframes.
02:21I mean, we are looking at basically 2027 through 2029 for phase one.
02:25You have 2029 out into the early 2030s for phase two.
02:30But again, this is all going to be informed on what we learn during those first landings in phase one.
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