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Bobby took us Below the Belt and looked at where the latest power rankings have the Cowboys sitting at, and the team's expectations for 2026. They also discussed Jourdan Lewis’s high praise for his former team’s culture, his perspective on the training staff, and more.

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00:00The Cowboys have scaled their most impossible mountain.
00:04No, not winning a Super Bowl.
00:05They're finally better than the 49ers, according to one person.
00:09We'll talk about it here in Below the Belt, which is sponsored by Window Nation.
00:14Before we go into these rankings from the ringer, which are very high,
00:20exceedingly high on the Dallas Cowboys, more so than we talked about, I think,
00:23last week where ESPN had them like 14, and that was higher than anybody had had them.
00:27This one goes even further.
00:29But before we get into that, Jordan Lewis, who is way up high on the list of my favorite guys
00:36that have ever come through that locker room, just being a pro and being easy to deal with
00:42and never running from anything and willing to stand up there and call it like it is.
00:48There was the whole issue in, I think it was 24, where they were asking him,
00:52what's going on with the defense?
00:53Why isn't this working out?
00:54Do you guys just need more time on task?
00:55And he's like, no, he's like, we're just, we're not detailed enough.
00:59And then I remember somebody said, how long does that take to fix?
01:02He goes, I don't know.
01:03That's always been a problem.
01:04Oh, and he's, he's very direct.
01:05He does not, he does not beat around the bush.
01:08I was, I thought it was a bummer when he left.
01:10I understood it.
01:11They didn't want to pay up to what Jacksonville was willing to give him,
01:14but he ended up having a really good year for the Jaguars and kind of pushed back against
01:20this notion that smaller, older player who's had some injuries that he's not going to be
01:26able to do it anymore.
01:27Him and Demarcus Lawrence both.
01:28In fact, it was Jordan Lewis who Jerry kind of singled out as being, yeah, maybe we shouldn't
01:33have let that nickel go.
01:34He ended up having some good success.
01:35And then obviously they prioritize Caleb Downs.
01:37Well, Jordan Lewis was on a podcast called Just Earn It.
01:43And typically when somebody leaves Dallas, what do we hear?
01:46Even our, even our buddy Dalton Schultz from the Superbowl, you'll, you'll hear about, man,
01:51it's just different over here.
01:52So much better.
01:53Circus.
01:53It's, it's always some sort of slight to how things are done here in Dallas.
01:58Then you've always got the, the one or two players who are, who are rare exceptions who
02:02will tell you how much they embraced it and loved it.
02:06And Jordan Lewis could not say enough nice things about his time with the Dallas Cowboys
02:11in this podcast.
02:12The Cowboys, it was, I loved it.
02:15You know, I loved every second of being a Cowboy, you know, the good and the bad, you
02:18know, um, that's something that I thrived in, you know, I just thrive, thrived in, you
02:22know, people saying we weren't going to be this good.
02:24We weren't going to be that.
02:25And, you know, he's not that good, but I knew the type of people that I had around me,
02:28the type of teammates that I had and I loved them, you know, like Dak, man, I, I, I love
02:33that.
02:34I love the type of leader he is.
02:35I love the type of player he is.
02:37I mean, he's gone through so much and he fights back every single time.
02:41So I'm like, man, I believe in a quarterback and you need that in the NFL.
02:45You have to believe in a quarterback.
02:47That's, that's like number one, I have to believe in a quarterback and I believed in
02:50him and I believed in, you know, the support staff.
02:52And I had a really good rapport with the support staff.
02:57Like, like Britt Brown, he's one of the guys that helped me when I had an injury, a real
03:01bad injury.
03:02My list, my first list, Frank, he's the one that pushed me through doing that.
03:06And, you know, coach Harold and coach Warsig, a legendary weights and strength and conditioning
03:12coach that taught me how to, you know, Olympic lift.
03:15I didn't know how to Olympic lift until I got into the NFL.
03:17So, wow, exactly.
03:18So that list of snatches and snatches, yes, snatches, hang cleans and stuff like that.
03:23He taught me, he taught me in the NFL.
03:25Why did you need that to do the Olympic lifts?
03:27So it, it, it, it teaches you how to be explosive and it gets your, you know, posterior chain in
03:34to where it's all in sync to where you can be explosive and it translates to the field
03:39to be a better athlete.
03:41Yeah.
03:41And driving through tackles, you know, bursting your first burst.
03:44So I saw myself getting faster in the NFL and I just believed in the program that they
03:50had.
03:51And I am stunned that they didn't Olympic lift in Michigan.
03:55Like Parcells brought that here.
03:57Dude, there's so, there's so many people who will tell you no matter how high quality the
04:03program is or whatever else, when guys get to the NFL, the, the conditioning program is
04:08just different and they, they tap into something new.
04:10They just don't have the same resources, no matter how much money's flowing through that.
04:13They just don't commit the same resources to it.
04:15I mean, those strike coaches in college make a lot of money.
04:17Yeah.
04:18And you know, you mentioned how like players say it's just different in Dallas.
04:22I bet you they say it's just different in Jacksonville too.
04:24That seems like the smallest town, smallest stadium.
04:28They're playing in Orlando this year for crying out loud.
04:30I'm not even playing in Jacksonville because they're refurbing the stadium.
04:34Oh.
04:34With the Citrus Bowl.
04:35You got to play, you know, three games in London.
04:37Damn.
04:38Damn, if they're actually going to play the Jaguars on the road this year, I would go
04:40to that game.
04:41I would get, I would get the flu quote unquote, if it was in Jacksonville again.
04:46No, but it's, we've seen the NFL PA report cards and different things like that.
04:51And they usually are.
04:52That was the thing that stood out to me most other than obviously the effusive praise for
04:55Dak Prescott.
04:56But the thing that stood out to me the most was we hear so much criticism, those report
05:01cards or whatever else about, well, I don't know how much I love the sports staff.
05:05I don't know how much I love the program and what they're doing.
05:08I think that's where things get missed because Kevin Smith, who former Texas A&M legend, Texas
05:15high school football legend played for the Cowboys for a number of years at corner.
05:19He had talked about, we were doing Cowboys crosstalk and he had said that he was talking specifically
05:24about Britt Brown, who he worked back from his Achilles injury with.
05:28And he had said that, you know, I, Britt, I would trust completely with my life.
05:33And he said, and look, he stopped and he goes, I know there's some people who, who don't work
05:39well with Britt.
05:40And he said, then that tells me if you're tough or not, because he goes, he's just, he's
05:45going to push you.
05:46He's going to be there for you as long as you're willing to put in the work.
05:49And I think when you, you see the guys who just, I think it's the, it's the
05:54difference between those who like Dallas and those who don't in terms of the, the support
05:58staff and the program that they've got in place of how conditioning weights, everything
06:02else.
06:03I think a lot of it comes down to who likes a little bit more of kind of the old
06:08school,
06:09like aggressive, like pick it up.
06:12Like, like, like, like do some of my, Britt to me is kind of like the Troy Aikman of trainers.
06:16He's not going to sugarcoat it.
06:17He's not going to sugarcoat it.
06:19But, um, Trayvon Diggs and Britt, like if you, if you're all about it and business
06:27one, two, three, I think you get along great with, uh, with Britt Brown.
06:31Dak loves him.
06:31Dak is an aggressive worker.
06:33DeMarvin Overshone loves him.
06:34DeMarvin Overshone works really, really hard in his rehab.
06:36And that's Jordan Lewis talking about some of those things.
06:38Now he went on to say, he was like, well, how did, how did he come to me?
06:41He's like, look, I, during my career, I saw a lot of guys that got cycled out of here
06:45that were older than me.
06:46And so he's like, I know it's the NFL.
06:48I knew my day was coming.
06:49And he's like, it just reached the point where, you know, he's like, I think some stuff got
06:51lost in communication, but ultimately it was like, okay, like, it's just my time to go.
06:55And it's, it's my time out the door.
06:56Enjoyed it.
06:57And I'm off now.
06:58So not bitter at all.
06:59It's still a, a big fan of it.
07:01And I think that makeup right there is what will McClay and the Cowboys personnel department
07:06always looks for in the draft is the, who loves it here.
07:09Even the bad stuff, because Jordan Lewis just said it there.
07:12He loved the bad part of it.
07:14Like he loved, he loved all the intensity that comes with it.
07:16I think Ferguson fits that category.
07:18Yeah.
07:19Ferguson, a hundred percent.
07:20Ferg has, has talked about that.
07:21How, you know, he told us, he said, uh, the name on the front of my Jersey is going to
07:25take care of the name on the back of my Jersey.
07:26Like, like, that's, that's what it means to be a cowboy.
07:29Uh, I always get frustrated when I, when I see or listen to Jordan Lewis's, I'm like, why
07:36can't you just get like four or five of them on one team?
07:40Yeah.
07:40Are they that rare?
07:41Like what happens if I get, you know, three Bobby Wagners?
07:46Like those, I wonder what teams in history, I don't care what sport it is, have, have had
07:50the most of those, uh, those dudes.
07:52I think a lot of times those are the teams that I know there's always this debate about
07:56culture versus talent and stuff like that.
07:58But I think a lot of times, like when you think back on those teams that do have several
08:02big time culture individuals, a lot of times those are the more successful teams in the
08:05NFL.
08:05And that may just be winning cures all.
08:08And so they, they, they embrace the culture that way, or it may be, that's what drives
08:12them to winning.
08:13It's, it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing.
08:15Um, over at the ringer, Deontay Lee has his NFL power rankings up.
08:21This is the time of year where everybody's going to cycle through there.
08:23So the ringers put theirs up finally, and boy, it looks good for the Dallas Cowboys.
08:28If you buy into Deontay Lee, this is the top 10, the Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Bills, Texans,
08:34Eagles, Lions, Patriots, Ravens, and then the Packers round up the top 10 and then coming
08:41in at number 11, by far the highest mark they've had in any of these like national outlet power
08:46rankings I've seen are the Dallas Cowboys.
08:48He says the Cowboys offense has a chance to be the league's best.
08:51And that alone is enough to make Dallas a playoff threat, but teams with powerful offenses
08:55like San Francisco and Cincinnati have struggled to make the leap in recent years because of
08:58injuries or roster weaknesses on the other side of the ball.
09:01So Dallas's hope depends on how the defensive changes work out.
09:04New coordinator Christian Parker is a Vic Fangio disciple, and his scheme will be designed
09:08around limiting explosive plays.
09:10To make it work, Parker will need to get solid, if not elite, play out of new defensive back
09:14Caleb Downs, Jalen Thompson, and Kobe Durant.
09:17If the front seven takes a legitimate step forward and can support what should be a top 10 offense,
09:21I won't look so silly for believing in the Cowboys.
09:23But that means directly behind the Dallas Cowboys are the following teams in Deontay Lee's rankings
09:28right now, the Chicago Bears, the San Francisco 49ers, who were a 12-13 win team last year,
09:34the Jacksonville Jaguars, who were the hottest team in the NFL essentially down the stretch,
09:3815, the Kansas City Chiefs, who everybody has embraced as still like, they're going to keep doing it,
09:4416, the Los Angeles Chargers.
09:46So you've got several playoff teams that right now people are buying into and saying Dallas is right there
09:52with them, and I can't pinpoint why.
09:58What do you mean you can't pinpoint why?
10:00So everybody always wants...
10:01Everyone has always said, offense is fine, if you can get the defense to near average,
10:06you can be a contender.
10:07And all this off-season hype is about the defense improving.
10:11I feel like Caleb Downs changed all this.
10:14Do you think it's Downs as the biggest driver?
10:16It's Downs and Parker.
10:17Yeah.
10:17But Parker's so fascinated me that somebody who they didn't know his name a few months ago,
10:21all of a sudden everybody has bought in on the national push with him.
10:24I think it's Downs.
10:24And he's never called a play.
10:26Yeah.
10:27Well, Bobby's up there in terms of the blame for the Christian Parker hype,
10:35or it can end up being brilliant credit that he ends up getting.
10:39I mean, it's usually brilliant, is what I would say.
10:43I think the Caleb Downs thing, it changed everything for me in terms of my excitement for Oxnard.
10:50I have far less problem with the Cowboys being ahead of all those teams, Bears, Niners, whatever, Jacksonville,
10:59than I do with New England being ahead of any of them.
11:03The fact that New England is eight, it's, they are...
11:08You're saying they're being disrespected.
11:10No.
11:11They're going to, I mean, they're going to miss the playoffs.
11:14Oh!
11:15I forget, what were all the things I said?
11:17I got to get a sticky pad in here, because we keep forgetting to put takes up there.
11:21You don't have a sticky pad?
11:22No, I need to get one out of the mailroom and I'll get it.
11:24Please expound.
11:26Well, they have a brutal schedule.
11:28They're going to lose...
11:30Vegas hates them, that's what it is.
11:32No, Vegas has them as a ten and a half win team.
11:35My lock of the year is the Patriots under.
11:37Lock of the year.
11:40They're ten and a half wins on their over-under.
11:43They're going to have eight losses by the first week of December.
11:46Oh!
11:46If you go look at their schedule, I mean, they start at Seattle.
11:49We just watched that game.
11:51All right, then they get Pitt, they win.
11:52Road games at Jacksonville, at Buffalo, loss-loss.
11:55Four-game stretch at Chicago, home to Green Bay, home to Detroit.
11:59They're going to lose all three.
12:00Mid-November, they're at six losses.
12:02This is the easiest bet of the year.
12:04Well, you are banking on Drake May just not being for real.
12:07I like Drake May.
12:09Their coach is in shambles.
12:13He's in lots of stuff.
12:14He's in shambles.
12:16I'm not convinced.
12:17He's going to be the coach come week one.
12:19And the schedule is so difficult.
12:21And I still don't...
12:22I'm still not impressed with their weapons.
12:24Yeah, I mean, and you just like...
12:25Pre-A.J. Brown.
12:27Would we assume A.J. Brown is going to be there in a week?
12:29A.J.
12:29You know, teams that lose the Super Bowl historically have a pretty big letdown the next year.
12:34I love it.
12:35The hot take, NFC take from Choppy over on the Vikings under on the defending AFC champs.
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