00:00is this rock bottom for the rangers yes next segment see because i think what i'm worried
00:07about is it's not oh no it's gonna get worse okay okay and and what happens at complete rock bottom
00:17too is another question because at complete rock bottom doesn't it feel like you move on from
00:22people very quickly and then my insane question for some rangers fans would be do you want it
00:28to get to rock bottom so you see the clear indication of where you should go with this
00:34franchise you know what i'm saying like i would much rather than just start winning yeah yeah i
00:40think i don't think any rate any fan of a team really ever wants the rock bottom to ever expose
00:46itself even if you really don't otherwise you're gonna just piddle along at the stupid middle ground
00:53where you don't re boot your your minor league franchise because we can't draft anybody even
01:00though we knew this season for the mavericks was what it was it wasn't enjoyable see i i think it
01:08kind of was because you got to see that you've got the piece i understand again that part of it
01:14the game stunk sure like that was sometimes so okay when when cooper flag goes out there and
01:21screws us out of a number eight or whatever pick because he had to go score 51 points or
01:26and 45 in consecutive nights and one of them was against the lakers that one really screwed us over
01:31uh yeah uh i don't think you want to see you ignore it most of the time you like the
01:39rangers
01:39understand that too in history we'd be like okay if we could just get to cowboys how many times do
01:46we discuss that and it got to a point where you're like all right man i'm with this team all
01:51the way
01:51you'd much rather have them with you being close enough but what you saw this weekend shows how
01:59inept you are it was pathetic and that's that's where that's where i don't want to see it because
02:05kevin that's what i would be watching for the rest of the season if we said that we're at that
02:10point
02:11and we're ready to start shelling things away and i don't think anybody in the front office would be
02:16willing to go through that because their job their their livelihood their reason for being in this
02:23is because they want to tell their boss i can field a competitive team and go out there and be
02:28competitive right but also if i'm not getting the money to go make myself even more than competitive
02:33then this is what we're going to get so i get why everyone would think it's rock bottom your last
02:41two games you're three for 55 that's a 0 55 batting average you have 20 strikeouts but you got three
02:50one run that is true you got three walks in the first inning yesterday and couldn't score a run
02:59jake berger has struck out with the bases loaded three times in the last two games against the
03:05angels including one time that was a tie in the ninth inning so i get all those reasons why it
03:14looks
03:15like you have hit rock bottom but i don't think you have and i get that a no hitter feels
03:25like rock
03:25bottom yes but there are so many pitcher rather than multiple well yes i'm just gonna go with i
03:33mean that would be bad a perfect game against you by one pitcher rather than multiples and it could
03:37be against the freaking astros again but there are so many like ancillary statistics that have me worried
03:43about this so here's the seemingly positive thing the rangers do great like better than the average in
03:52major league baseball in hitters counts like 2031 but they rank with the fourth fewest played
03:59appearances in hitters counts okay so you're like hey you're really good at this thing but you don't
04:04get to do it very often you lost six of nine games to the teams that had the three worst
04:10records in
04:11baseball when that run began you got swept by an angels team that had been one in nine in their
04:18previous 10 games you got no hit yesterday by a starter who had an eight plus era going into it
04:25now when you put the ball in play on the very first pitch mlb average 330 batting average 552 slugging
04:34rangers 273 and 476 that is second to worst and seventh worst that's poor contact exactly and the
04:45rangers have think about it it's poor contact but hopefully you're like well at least that probably
04:50doesn't happen a lot but it does does they have the eighth most at bats that have ended after the
04:55first pitch nice and i just told you they have the second worst batting average in major league
05:01baseball off the first pitch so that's really really terrible then just go back to i believe
05:09is saturday's game the rangers loaded the bases three different times and scored none of those
05:15times they were 0 for 4 with the bases loaded in three of those situations they struck out and left
05:2311 men on base so this has happened again and again and again and then there's this that's a but
05:28by the
05:29way that is about as deflating as it gets whenever you your group that got it on base before that
05:36whatever work they did to get on base whether it was cracking a single through the other side of
05:41the infield a dribbler that got them there a sack whatever it was it puts them in position to change
05:47the game and then you get up there and you're like okay i'm just gonna swing away at stuff like
05:53that's
05:53what then by the way that's what was happening he was chasing stuff these guys were chasing they weren't
05:59having feeling good at bats and that's where we saw the other day against the rockies and i know it's
06:04the rockies but you did all the little things right to get yourself in position to win that game
06:09and here you are and it's just a deflating thing to go back out in the field and be like
06:13now i got
06:13to get runners back on base to do that all over again just to to have that failure happen it's
06:19not
06:19it's not a positive spin at the moment but at least you have the pitching right and this is the
06:25thing that is no no no terrifying to me so let's go back to that angel series again because make
06:31no
06:31mistake the angels are awful and they swept you so to start that game you had jacob de grom and
06:41nathan avaldi and you lost both of those games it was the first time in three plus seasons as
06:52teammates that the two pitch on back-to-back days and both of them were tagged with the loss and
06:59only
06:59the second time the rangers have lost back-to-back games in which those two had started but the other
07:05time not both the starters got the loss so is the first time de grom throws avaldi throws or vice
07:12versa back-to-back and you lost both of the games so even the one thing that you could like
07:17default
07:18depend on is not there the last go around either so what i'm really worried about is that it gets
07:26worse from here although i know saying that it's going to get worse right after you got no hit
07:31seems kind of absurd well i mean you could get no hit twice and would you rule that out at
07:37this point
07:38no honestly you can't because you look they just got one you look at the scores of these games and
07:44you're just like oh my gosh like that's the the times that they put out no output run run wise
07:50then you watch the game and you saw chases you saw just not unlucky stuff happening
07:58looking like you're outmatched and somebody said whatever happened that nitro hitting philosophy
08:04the philosophy can be there and in spring training again we always do say do not like completely read
08:12into that hopefully what you taught in that time period during spring training is the same philosophy
08:18you have the entire season but it does take the talent and discipline to be able to pull off this
08:25philosophy as well forcing pitchers to pitch to you is something that you whenever you see the pitch
08:31you recognize that you drive it but other than that you're like i'm not going outside of zone right now
08:37they are chasing like crazy yes and that was they had gone against the grain early in the season
08:43against that from the 214 i think i know the answer to this why are people saying that cy sucks
08:49on the youtube twitch and on twitter he couldn't afford to redo the bullpen and the hitters with our
08:56with the cheap owner ray davis i think i don't agree with this logic but i believe the people who
09:04feel
09:05that way think that chris young won because of remnants of the jd era okay and when forced to do
09:13it
09:13himself he has not been able to succeed i think that completely ignores like bringing in the new
09:18manager to help jump start kind of that entire season but like that's probably a discussion for
09:23another day but the people who think that believe well that he was successful because of jd and now
09:29that jd is like drift away with his moves and everything he can't succeed i mean i do not agree
09:34with that's that's one that's one i don't think a wrong idea considering what we've seen on lots of
09:40whether social media or whatever messages sent directly to us right that's definitely one i think
09:46the other thing too is a lot of times when you're trying to figure out what's wrong fingers start
09:52getting pointed that's a great point and then where do you start with the pointing of the finger you
09:58start with leadership right and so you know we discuss this regarding the mavericks a lot whenever
10:03things are going on you go all the way up to mark cuban and say obviously that's where that starts
10:08and chris young is where kind of that starts for the leadership of this if this is the organization
10:14and they are in this direction what is their direction does he does he always have a all right
10:20here's the plan we're going forward with it win lose or draw or it is a hey here's the direction
10:26we're going and then next week it's going to be a different direction just because the results
10:30aren't what we asked for and i wonder if that's where chris young is if he shifts a little bit
10:35back and forth but then you take that you will then take that up to the next right place of
10:39leadership and that is ray davis and his willingness to be a big market team and or unwillingness to be
10:46a big market team so i think that's where you start with that that's why the manager starts catching
10:50strays too right because he's the leadership of this and then ultimately could it just be
10:55maybe it is the team and the group they've collected is not good now i joke with you before the
11:01show
11:01we had talked last week is we're going to wait a month until you have any real discussions about
11:07hey it's time to trade this person that person any other person and i joked with you i was like
11:11maybe we need to accelerate that timeline again it's not gonna it didn't feel like a joke when you
11:16said okay yeah i'm not lying no no because of how bad things were last night i was like i
11:21don't know
11:22if he's joking but think about this it's not gonna happen and here's why it's not gonna happen
11:28all right i i'm gonna lay this out as clear as i can from the perspective of what i believe
11:33the
11:33rangers are thinking and then some of the facts in front of us okay do i think actually let's just
11:39real quick alec you and cory do you think this team looks anything like a playoff team no not
11:48whatsoever neither do i so playoff team can i feel like has at least three spots in its lineup that
11:56you're like scared of okay and there's there's maybe one infrequently in this lineup yeah and i
12:04need to i'm gonna go back and double check where the record is but we started this run of just
12:11awful teams and they're three and seven so far in that run and you thrown out like i would like
12:19to
12:19see him go you know 14 and 4 whatever like something really impressive and they're they're not close
12:25yeah they're not even mediocre yeah so like i'm with you i agree there's no part of me that
12:30believes this is a playoff team i will tell you how i think the rangers are observing it and why
12:35you're still a good month away from doing anything about it right now the rangers are a game and a
12:41half
12:42out of first place and i excuse me out of the playoffs there are two and a half games out
12:47of first place
12:47in their god off division and i also think the front office would argue we're having to do this
12:55of course we're struggling offensively we don't have our best two hitters now do i think that ignores
13:00the reality of what cory seager was actually doing while he was here and unfortunately wyatt
13:05langford has been getting hurt in his tenure with the rangers yes yes i do but i think they would
13:12tell you why in the world would we just sell when we're only a game and a half out of
13:18the playoffs
13:18and our two best hitters are missing you're right i i don't love that argument but i bet that's what
13:24it is i would if you know if i put this team together let's say kevin you put this team
13:28together
13:28and this is what you have how much of what wyatt langford and cory seager would you say would be
13:35the percentage of how important they are to their to the hitting lineup before the season total i would
13:42have said 40 that's a big number yes that's a gigantic number and i was i was thinking right
13:49there at that number two and then if i can get some contribution from the rest of it so why
13:53would i
13:54change my mind in the middle of the season when i'm not doing well and the and they are out
14:02right i
14:02wouldn't change my mind i would say all right we're still close like you just pointed out i would say
14:08we're still close and we'll see what happens when these guys come back and kevin the pitch to front
14:15office of why you're not going to change the team much is probably that too you know we guys we
14:20all
14:20we got to do is get these two guys back not i'm saying it's going to be the the the
14:24fix for everything
14:25yeah but i absolutely would say this is what we thought before the season and look at where we are
14:30right now and that's that's why you have to balance out like what we're saying right now versus
14:34what management thinks because i've talked about it many times hell we even had the back and forth
14:39with jerry on air he's like would you ever rather us not won those games yes that is correct and
14:44so
14:44it's the same thing like we've talked with skip schumacher multiple times and he's like well we'd
14:49all agree that the lineup is better with cory seager in it and if he says he's good to go
14:53then he's good
14:54to go and i understand all of that but like that doesn't fix the lineup right now you would need
15:00absolute 2023 world series cory seager probably world series evan carter and top notch reach all
15:08future potential wyatt langford to fix this lineup and like what is your faith that any of those three
15:16happen let alone all three of them like 0.01 part of me also believes
15:24if i can get them to scrape out a couple wins when they're back and start gaining that confidence
15:33then we can be that playoff team if you're just scraping by the rest of the way you're not going
15:38to become that playoff team right but it doesn't feel like if i could just get them to scrape get
15:43me
15:43just scrappily get a couple wins and then maybe gain that confidence back and now we have hot cory
15:49seager i don't know if it's ever going to happen i was the one that brought the his age and
15:53looking
15:53at these stats up i brought that up recently i don't know i mean the body's already been worn
15:58out a lot in his career off of injuries alone but i can see the optimistic side from anybody who's
16:06trying to sell that i'm trying to win with this group right now and i don't have a lot of
16:10other
16:11options of making anything happen to get wins and and you brought up this point early in the segment
16:16that makes more sense and it's more fun to sell right like hey if they get back and start rocking
16:23and rolling we're good to go imagine my cell you know what we really need to do i need you
16:29to trade
16:29and i just list off at least five people i could probably list off more and then man i'm telling
16:36you
16:36come 2029 we're going to be loaded that team's going to be awesome like that is a terrible thing
16:44boss i'm gonna need some money to do that yeah they're like that's a terribly soul crushing
16:50thing to pitch for all rangers fans us included yeah
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