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00:08It is good to be back with you on this second hour of Chris Janssen reports at the Sauer
00:13IRS settlement. President Trump has withdrawn his $10 billion lawsuit. As part of the agreement,
00:20the DOJ is creating a $1.7 billion anti-weaponization fund that could compensate
00:26some of his prosecuted allies. Corruption unparalleled. That's what House Democrats are
00:32calling that settlement even before it was officially announced. Now they want a judge to
00:38scrutinize the deal. Plus, from the Pentagon to the campaign trail, the historic high-stakes
00:43primary that's brought Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to Kentucky and the message it's sending
00:49to the incumbent Republican congressman who is not backed by the president. And new escalation.
00:55The U.S. and Iran are signaling that they're prepared to resume the war if peace talks falter
01:00as the UAE calls the latest drone strike on a nuclear plant, quote, an unprovoked terrorist attack.
01:07Our MSNOW reporters are following all of the latest developments. We begin with the president's
01:12settlement with the IRS dropping his $10 billion lawsuit in exchange for that anti-weaponization
01:19fund. MSNOW's Fallon Gallagher joins us. Fallon, walk us through what we know about this agreement.
01:25Yeah, Chris, President Trump is moving to voluntarily dismiss this case this morning,
01:31and he's asking a judge to do it with prejudice, meaning that he will not bring any sort of a
01:35similar claim in the future. Now, you'll remember he initially filed this suit back in January against
01:41a former IRS employee who he alleges wrongly leaked his tax returns. Now, the filing from this morning
01:48about this voluntary dismissal had few details, but the Justice Department is giving us some answers
01:53this afternoon. They're announcing this anti-weaponization fund with $1.776 billion of
02:00money for people who the president believes were wrongly targeted by what he calls weaponization
02:06of the Biden Justice Department. And I want to read very briefly from this announcement. It says,
02:10the machinery of government should never be weaponized against any American, and it is this
02:15department's intention to make right the wrongs that were previously done while ensuring this never
02:20happens again. As a part of this settlement, we are setting up a lawful process for victims of lawfare
02:26and weaponization to be heard and seek redress. Now, this is really critical because it doesn't specify who
02:32these victims are other than they appear to be Trump-aligned people who were targeted by the Biden Justice
02:38Justice Department. This could include anyone from January 6th defendants to other people who face
02:43charges during that time. But notably in this announcement, they say that filing a complaint
02:47is not only voluntary, but also nonpartisan. But Chris, this is just really the most interesting
02:53and unusual development in a case that has been unusual from the beginning. This case had the
02:58president suing the IRS, a government agency under his control. The judge was questioning why he was
03:05even doing this in the first place. But what's really, really notable about this dismissal is
03:09that now the judge will never be able to decide whether or not this civil litigation had any
03:14validity. Chris? Fallon Gallagher, thank you. House Democrats are now accusing the president of
03:20undermining the Constitution following the IRS settlement. MSNOW's Kevin Fry joins us. What are you
03:26hearing from those Democrats? Yeah, I mean, an exclusive that we got this morning, 93 Democrats joined
03:32together to file an amicus brief before the judge that has been handling this case. They argue this
03:38idea, which Fallon was just laying out here, that the president was serving as essentially both the
03:42litigant and defendant in this case, amounted to a collusion before the court and said that this idea
03:48that he would then file and then move to dismiss the case was legally barred under statute. Now,
03:55in this amicus brief, they go on to say that the unprecedented posture of this suit fundamentally
04:00disregards Article 3's case or controversy requirement and raises the specter of corruption
04:05unparalleled in American history. Never in the history of the United States, they write, has a
04:10sitting president sought a monetary settlement from the government he leads, let alone sought many
04:15billions of dollars in taxpayer funds. Now, they would like the judge to review this settlement,
04:21this $1.7 billion fund to scrutinize its rollout and implementation, because they say it raises
04:30questions about whether or not this was all done for illicit ends. And they also say that this idea
04:35of setting up this fund is both statutorily and constitutionally inappropriate. So Democrats
04:42undoubtedly are going to continue to fight and raise questions about this fund, especially,
04:46especially if we start seeing January 6 defendants among those receiving payouts as this move
04:53forward. Kevin Fry, thank you for that. Let's go to MSNOW's Michael Schnell in Kentucky, where
04:58Pete Hegseth is campaigning this hour with Thomas Massey's primary challenger. What are we expecting
05:04there? Yeah, Chris, we're expecting what's supposed to be likely to be a full-throated endorsement and
05:11campaign pitch for Ed Gahlrein. He is the Trump-endorsed and Trump-hand-picked challenger to
05:17Congressman Thomas Massey, who's been the president's one of his top foes. I will note,
05:21by the way, the event's supposed to begin any minute now. It's quite unconventional that we're
05:25going to see Pete Hegseth here in Hebron, Kentucky, campaigning. For one, seeing a defense
05:30secretary on the campaign trails is unconventional in itself, but also it's important to note this
05:36comes as the Iran war is still raging on. President Trump and his administration have been
05:40looking for some sort of off-ramp, and they haven't been able to find it. It's also unconventional
05:45that we're seeing so much interest in a House GOP primary in a district and in a state that is
05:50ruby red.
05:51And of course, that's all the product of President Trump's effort against Thomas Massey and this
05:55effort that he has had to try and oust him from office. It really came to fruition and hit a
06:00point
06:01of no return last year when Thomas Massey spearheaded that discharge petition, forced the release
06:07of the Epstein files. Massey then recruited three other Republicans to join him, and that's why
06:12we have seen those hundreds of thousands of documents about Jeffrey Epstein to the annoyance
06:17of President Trump. Thomas Massey also voted against the House GOP's reconciliation bill
06:22last year, and he's also been one of the top GOP critics of the Iran war. That point is something
06:28that we will likely hear a lot from as Hegseth appears with Galrine in that hotel right behind me.
06:33Of course, Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, one of the main faces of this war, Ed Galrine
06:38as former Navy SEAL. Seeing if that differential point between Hegseth and Galrine being their
06:45disagreement among the Iran war can move any minds here in Kentucky's 4th Congressional District,
06:50we'll have to see if that policy pitch resonates with any voters because they head to the polls tomorrow
06:55to select their GOP nominee for November's House race.
06:59Michael Schnell, thank you for that. Well, Iran is once again attacking its Gulf neighbors and
07:04signaling it's ready to resume more. MSNOW's David Rode joins me. This most recent attack hit a
07:10nuclear plant in the United Arab Emirates. What do we know? Emirati officials were stunned that this
07:16happened. There were three drones fired from Iran. Two of them were shot down, and one hit. It was just
07:21outside the perimeter of this nuclear power plant. It's in Abu Dhabi. It's a civilian nuclear power plant.
07:26It hit a sort of some kind of generator that started a fire. There was no release of radiation. No
07:33one
07:33was injured, but there was just outrage on the part of Emirati officials. This is supposed to be a
07:37ceasefire. It's against international law to attack a nuclear facility. So they were furious about this.
07:44And, you know, it's just another example of defiance from the Iranians as these peace talks go on.
07:50Is there any momentum at all toward resuming peace talks?
07:54To the president's credit, he, President Trump was very unhappy with the response he got several
07:58days ago from the Iranians. The U.S. did reply to that. And so I think they're waiting for a
08:04response
08:04from the Iranians at this point. So there are messages going back and forth, written proposals,
08:09but everything we're hearing publicly and from sources is that there's no progress. Each side is
08:14sort of still putting down maximalist demand. Well, as folks who are in the diplomatic corps often say,
08:20as long as you're talking or communicating, that's always at least some positive sign. David
08:24Rode, thank you so much for that. In 90 seconds, the concerns being raised after a Democratic governor
08:30from a deep blue state commuted the sentence of an election denier.
08:41New fears today that election integrity is being eroded after Colorado's Democratic governor
08:46caved to pressure from the president and commuted the sentence of a 2020 election denier.
08:52Tina Peters is now set to be released from prison in just two weeks. The former county clerk was
08:57convicted of tampering with election equipment. She'd served less than two years of her nine-year
09:03sentence. Joining me now is Stephen Richer, former Maricopa County, Arizona recorder who held the office
09:08during the 2020 and 2022 elections. I appreciate you coming on the show. You wrote back in January,
09:15Stephen, a piece for the Bulwark, and it was titled, Governor Polis, do not pardon Tina Peters.
09:21He then commuted her sentence after Trump punished his state economically, and I should say
09:26repeatedly, when he didn't do what Trump wanted. So I wonder what your thoughts are now.
09:34I think the commutation is one thing, and it's problematic because of the message that it
09:39sends to election deniers and to the Trump administration that they can get away with
09:44anything. But I think just as problematic is what Governor Polis has been saying since Friday when he
09:50commuted the sentence. He's been saying it had nothing to do with the 2020 election, and that's just
09:56wrong to the point of being silly because, of course, what she was doing in 2021, the unlawful
10:03actions for which she was prosecuted, for which she was charged, for which she was convicted,
10:09they had everything to do with the 2020 election and her attempts to prove that the 2020 election was
10:14stolen, her attempts to connect with MyPillow's Mike Lindell in overturning the election. And so
10:20I don't get what the governor is doing here, and I certainly don't get why he's saying the things
10:25he's saying. So you know what it was like for election workers back then in 2020. You know that
10:31firsthand. Part of your fear that this commutation could make people think, well, they can get away
10:37with targeting workers, even breaking the law. Absolutely. And I think we've already seen that
10:43play out with respect to the January 6 rioters, who now have been told that, hey, storming the
10:50Capitol? Not that big of a problem, as long as you're doing it for the right team, for the right
10:55guy. And now I think that this is sending a message to the whole world that you can do things
11:01that are
11:02unlawful in election administration, as long as you're doing on behalf of a cause that President
11:08Trump likes. It wouldn't surprise me if Tina Peters now gets the Presidential Medal of Freedom,
11:13or if she's appointed to the administration. And so I think that Governor Polis is looking at this
11:20as if it's just another 70-year-old who committed a white-collar crime. And he's not looking at the
11:25political context. He's not looking at what this means for election administrators right now. And he's
11:31not looking at what this means for election administrators in 2026 and in 2028.
11:36So let me ask you about that specifically. What are your biggest concerns ahead of the
11:41midterms and ahead of the presidential when it comes to election integrity?
11:46Well, vis-a-vis the Peter sentencing, I would say that there could be an election administrator
11:52who's sympathetic to President Trump, who gets it in his mind that he is going to do something that
11:58President Trump likes that violates federal law, but that that's OK because the president will
12:03pardon him. Or if it violates state law, that's going to be fine, too, because then President
12:09Trump will put pressure on the governor and the governor will pardon him. And so the one thing
12:14that I've always said that has really checked our elections is that we have good state and federal
12:20laws that election administrators have to abide by. And if you don't believe that they are abiding by
12:26them, then you can take them to court either in civil or criminal action. That's always what's been
12:31held and affirmed our elections. Now we're calling into question that process. And I think, again,
12:38that Governor Polis's decision and maybe even more problematically, his language really eviscerates
12:45that foundation. We are seeing ways in which various arms of the federal government are using
12:51their power in ways we've never seen before, perhaps even arguably never imagined before.
12:56Let me give you one example. The Trump administration promoting a program that checks
13:01voter eligibility by running at least 67 million registrations through a B.
13:11The impact this could have on voters leading to people wrongly being deemed ineligible to vote.
13:17I think that more data and more tools are positive things. But election administrators who are using
13:26the federal government's SAVE database should use it as one point of information, because various
13:32reporting has already shown that this is a imperfect tool that has registered quite a few false positives,
13:40meaning people who have been said to not be citizens, but in fact, they are U.S. citizens who can
13:47lawfully participate in election. So no election administrator throughout the United States should
13:52simply be feeding names to the SAVE database and then removing them from the voter rolls based off
13:59the SAVE database alone. Now, again, this is, as you said, one action in which the federal government
14:06under President Trump is trying to nationalize, is trying to federalize election administrators.
14:12That used to be something that my party, the Republican Party, would stand up against and
14:18say states matter. These should be run by states. But we are not doing that today, and we are not
14:24doing that with this president. Steve Richer, it's so good of you to come on the program. Thank you so
14:30much.
14:31Thank you very much. The Trump administration is continuing to promise, but never deliver,
14:37one scintilla of proof that the 2020 election was stolen. And now acting attorney general Todd Blanche
14:43is sending two completely different messages about whether he can actually prove it. Here to break
14:50down Blanche's claims, MSNOW's Laura Barone-Lopez. What's going on here, Laura?
14:55Hi, Chris. So I think first it's important to remember that Todd Blanche was the president's
14:59former personal lawyer before he became this acting attorney general. And in that capacity,
15:04he represented the president during the January 6th insurrection federal case. And now, as acting
15:10attorney general, Blanche is attempting to do the president's bidding and to spread these falsehoods
15:16about the 2020 election and carry out this retribution campaign that the president has wanted
15:21and that he felt the predecessor, Pam Bondi, didn't carry out. And so just recently, to Fox,
15:29Todd Blanche contradicted himself when he was talking about the 2020 election. Take a listen.
15:36Do you have any evidence that the election was rigged? What can you tell us?
15:41Well, there's a ton of evidence that the election was rigged. That's not something the DOJ needs to
15:46needs to tell you about. You believe there will be at some point a definitive answer to whether or
15:51not the 2020 election was stolen? I don't, I'm not going to promise there's going to be a definitive
15:56answer. That wouldn't be fair to you or anybody else. But we are looking at it and we're hoping to
16:01get one.
16:05So on one hand, the Todd Blanche saying that he has mountains of evidence of this alleged fraud,
16:13which of course, but also simultaneously saying he has zero evidence and saying that he can't promise
16:19that he'll ever be able to give an answer on the 2020 election. Now, as you know, Chris,
16:24multiple audits were carried out, including in Republican led states like Arizona in Georgia,
16:29found no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. But this is part of a white
16:37and to spread falsehoods, not just about past elections like
16:46Laura Burrow and Lopez. Thank you for that. Coming up next, sticker shock. The new data that's revealing
16:52just how hard the war with Iran is hitting Americans in their wallets.
17:03A new study from Brown University finds that it's cost Americans nearly $42 billion more for gas and
17:10diesel since the Iran war began. That amounts to $319 per household in less than two months.
17:18And estimates indicate those costs could go way up by the end of the year.
17:22But Speaker Mike Johnson, like the president, doesn't seem worried.
17:27We're talking about the Strait of Hormuz. Really, all points lead back to that. Gas prices are too high
17:32because of that. And then that has an effect on how goods transported to the grocery store and all the
17:36rest. So as soon as we get that straightened out, we will get back to the kitchen table issues,
17:41the economic issues that we put in place to make the economy grow. We're really excited,
17:46anxious for that to be resolved so that people will feel that. And I think they will before they
17:50go vote in the midterm. Ron Insana is a veteran financial journalist, publisher of The Message
17:55of the Markets on Substack and an MSNOW business analyst. I don't know why you didn't point this out
18:00to us before this round. All you got to do is get that Hormuz thing straightened out. That's all you
18:04need to do. And once that's straightened out, everything goes back to normal.
18:06More inflation comes down, the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates, and we'll be just flying.
18:11Economy will be just taken off. JPMorgan Chase estimates that if gas prices stay where they
18:15are through the end of the year, Americans will shell out $172 billion more than they did last
18:22year on gas alone. That's a lot of money, over $1,300 per household. But what about the impact
18:29beyond just what they're putting in their tank? Yeah. Well, so this has an effect where whether it's
18:35the cost of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, transportation costs, which push up the price
18:40of groceries as they're delivered to the stores, fertilizer, which is forcing U.S. farmers to cut
18:45the size of their crop planting this year. That's going to drive up the price of food even further.
18:48And groceries were up by one of the largest amounts last month when we had measured inflation
18:53come out that we've seen in quite some time. So this has a very wide distributive effect where
18:58it's not just the cost of energy, it's the cost of a whole host of things. In addition to that,
19:02helium, which is used to make computer chips, driving up the price of those goods as well.
19:06So this is going to go on for a while, and it's spreading farther and farther out into the economy.
19:11You know, one of the things I was thinking about was when we were talking about tariffs,
19:15we were in the summer when business people were saying to us, we already have to put in our orders
19:20for Christmas. Like, we have to figure out where the economy is going to be there,
19:23what things are going to cost us at that point. Is that the same situation we could find ourselves in?
19:29Well, it's doubled because the tariffs are still in effect for all intents and purposes. I mean,
19:33as much as they've been, you know, invalidated by the Supreme Court, there are still tariffs that
19:36are in place on things like aluminum and tin. The president is threatening to put tariffs on
19:40European cars. You know, there's a whole host of factors that are driving up prices that don't
19:45look like they're going to go away anytime soon. So there's this double whammy. So inflation continues
19:50higher or stays higher than we need it to be. And it stays higher than it would otherwise allow the
19:56Federal Reserve to cut interest rates and take the burden off homebuyers, car buyers and like.
20:01In fact, we saw mortgage rates this morning touch 7%, which is the highest level we've seen now in
20:05quite a number of months. There's a new poll that tracked the feelings that Americans have,
20:10not about their leaders, but about the economy itself. 76% say they are concerned. 67% say they
20:17are stressed. And when asked how they feel about President Trump's handling of the economy,
20:21the top two responses were frustrated and angry. What kind of data are you going to be looking at
20:28as we move forward? Because when I saw those numbers, I thought people are still spending,
20:33right? Consumers are still spending money. To an extent.
20:36Okay. So what is the real world impact and what are you watching for when people feel that negatively?
20:42So a couple of things I'm watching really closely. Number one is the stock market, because we're in
20:46what many economists now call this K-shaped economy. The top 10% of wage earners in the United States
20:52account for about 50% of all consumer spending. Now that number is being debated, but it looks right.
20:58And the more data we see, the more it appears that those who are well-heeled are doing fine. And
21:03if
21:03you're in middle and lower income families, all these different effects from tariffs, energy prices,
21:08food prices, and the like are like regressive taxes. They're hitting people harder in middle
21:13and lower income groups. And as a consequence, if the stock market were to sell off and interest
21:17rates were to go higher, and that top 10% cut back on its spending, that could lead towards a
21:22recession. So we're watching all these different factors closely. And we continue to watch these
21:27inflation numbers because it does not look like they're going to come down anytime soon. Kevin
21:30Warsh is being installed as the new chairman of the Fed this week. He had fully intended to get the
21:35Fed to cut interest rates in the near term. That does not look like that's going to happen anytime
21:40soon. In fact, when you look at the betting markets, it's a 64% probability that rates will
21:44go up at the Fed this year, not down. The president will not like that. Ron Insana,
21:51thank you. It's always good to see you. Up next, a new warning that the entire South is on fire.
21:56South Carolina takes up a fight to redraw congressional maps.
22:08Today, a dramatic warning about voting rights from one North Carolina state senator who told Politico
22:13the entire South is on fire. The latest example, South Carolina, where lawmakers today are launching
22:20into what is expected to be a long and heated discussion about new congressional maps. Republicans
22:26are looking to erase the state's lone Democratic seat. It's held by civil rights icon James Clyburn.
22:32Joining me now, Democratic South Carolina State Representative Gambrill Garvin. Also with me,
22:37Julie Roginski, Democratic strategist and author of the Salty Politics newsletter on Substack.
22:42Representative Garvin, thanks so much for being with us. Jim Clyburn accuses Republicans of creating
22:48Jim Crow 2.0. Is he right?
22:52Absolutely, Chris. And thank you for having me. We in South Carolina and the South Carolina House
22:56of Representatives are fighting regressive policies. And we've been doing that, Chris,
23:01for the last couple of days. And we will continue to do that as well throughout the day and well
23:06into
23:06the night, Chris. What we see today and what we've been seeing throughout the South is an attempt to
23:10take us backwards. I have a quote that I often like to say, and that is that it's starting to
23:15feel
23:16more like 1966 and not 2026. And with that being said, Chris, we are fighting against bad policy.
23:24We are fighting against voter disenfranchisement. And it's going to be really important that we
23:29stand up and that we make our voices heard and say that we're not going back. We can't go back
23:34because we've come too far to turn around now. Is there anything you're hearing, Representative,
23:38from your Republican colleagues to suggest that this will get any significant pushback on their side?
23:45Chris, the sad thing about it is that Republicans in South Carolina, starting with Governor McMaster,
23:50have all yielded to Donald Trump. Donald Trump made the call. Donald Trump has told Senate
23:55leaders as well as House leaders what to do. And they are all falling in line. Now,
24:00there were a couple of senators last week that stood up and said that we weren't going to pass
24:03the Senate resolution over in the Senate. But by and large, the Republicans are falling in line,
24:09even the ones that don't like it. And guess what, Chris? So many of them are probably coming up to
24:13Democrats telling us, thank you. Thank you for fighting these bad bills. And our retort is
24:18simple. Join us. Join us in fighting for our democracy. Join us in fighting for the will of
24:23South Carolinians. Because quite honestly, what we're seeing is truly an attempt by Washington,
24:28D.C., by President Trump to tell us how our map should be drawn for political advantage.
24:34There are Republicans who are concerned, it seems, about the logistics, if nothing else.
24:39The state Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey says this plan could backfire because it's being
24:44rushed. Here, take a listen. If you're going to flip-flop on something like that, it would have
24:51been a whole lot better for everybody if you'd have just done it a few months ago and to have
24:57given
24:57time to plan this, do it the right way. So at least somebody is expressing publicly, too,
25:05right? Some concern. But is it just not worth it to invoke Trump's ire?
25:10Well, I think everybody on the Republican side is looking at what happened in Indiana a few weeks
25:15ago. They're looking at what happened in Louisiana with Bill Cassidy yesterday. We'll see what happened
25:19with Tom Massey today. We'll see what happens with him. But look, the reality is that the Republican
25:26Party is held hostage to one man who has, I don't know the last time he stepped foot in South
25:30Carolina,
25:31but certainly he's done it for political reasons. He doesn't know South Carolina. He doesn't know the
25:34South. He's from down the street here in New York. And so, you know, you have an entire region of
25:39the
25:39country that is completely enthralled to this man. And I would simply say that you also have a
25:45Supreme Court where the Chief Justice has been working since the Reagan administration to gut
25:49the Civil Rights Act, and he's done it. And the reality of that means that Black voters in the South
25:55who have been disenfranchised for the history, the entire history of this country, who were given an
25:59opportunity to have equal representation back in the 1960s. Now we're going back to a time, as the
26:07representative said, that I certainly have never lived through, and I think most people in this
26:11country have never lived through, is a, it is just astonishing at what's happening. We're about to have
26:17no Black people represented, no Black representatives, excuse me, in South Carolina where the Black
26:24constituency is tremendous. I mean, Jim Clyburn is about to potentially lose his seat. And as a
26:29Democrat, I will say, South Carolina delivers the Democratic nomination every single time for every
26:35single Democratic candidate. They did it for Barack Obama. They did it for Joe Biden. They will do it
26:41again for the next Democratic president. It is much more important than Iowa and New Hampshire. And to
26:46have that state be so disenfranchised and those Black voters be so disenfranchised, it's just,
26:51it is astonishing that we're living in what is called a democracy, but clearly is not anymore.
26:55So, Representative, there is another possibility that some Republicans have suggested as a concern,
27:02maybe quietly. And that is the possibility that creating a new map could end up spreading
27:07the Republican voter base in your state so thin that it opens up more possibilities for Democrats.
27:14Is that at all possible?
27:16It's certainly possible, Chris. Anything is possible. And this could be a dummy mander.
27:21And you know what? I will say that I hope that that is the case. But as the other guests
27:27just
27:27mentioned, this is a time in our history that we have to all be vigilant, that we all have to
27:33say
27:33that there should never be a time where a state that's nearly a third African-American cannot,
27:40African-Americans will not be able to have the ability to elect candidates of their choice.
27:43And let me tell you what this current map that they have proposed does.
27:47It splits up the urban centers. It cuts and dilutes the black vote to a point where we're in my
27:53community, Richland County. We're split three ways. So we will not be able to have any meaningful
27:58impact on any of those congressional districts, thus diluting the voice and the impact of black
28:04voters. A couple last week, state leaders gathered here in Columbia for a monument to honor
28:09an individual named Robert Smalls, who was one of the congressional members from the Reconstruction
28:15Era. And this monument is going to be a wonderful and long overdue tribute to Congressman Smalls.
28:19But the thing that I found ironic, Chris, is that Robert Smalls fought for civil rights.
28:24He fought for African-Americans to be able to have a voice. And it wasn't until Jim Clyburn got elected
28:30in 1992, only six months after I was born, that we had another African-American elected. So you're
28:37talking about an over 100-year period where black folks in South Carolina did not get a chance to have
28:42a voice, did not get a chance to have a seat at the table. And now we are facing a
28:46situation where
28:47it might be another 100 years where African-Americans will not be able to have a voice.
28:51And the sad thing about it, Chris, is that my generation, the 35-year-old, my kids are going
28:55to have less rights than their parents, as well as their grandparents and their great-grandparents.
29:00And it is shameful. And here in South Carolina, my Democrats are saying that we will not stand for
29:05it and we will not take it quietly. It was really interesting, the New York Times poll,
29:10one of the things that I noticed was that they broke down the numbers by region. And when they
29:16asked about whether the state of the economy representative was excellent or good, this is
29:23in the South. This is Southern voters. 3% said they found it excellent. 21% said they found it
29:31good.
29:31If you can't convince people that there is equity, voter rights that are being eroded in a most egregious
29:41way, what is the economic message that's getting through? Or is it getting through on the Democratic
29:47side where you live? Absolutely. You know, so folks, the economy, when you go to the gas station,
29:55we have gas that's $4.15 for a gallon of gas. I just filled up my truck this morning and
30:01it took
30:02over $100, where just a few months ago, that same truck took a whole lot less to fill up. And
30:09so folks
30:09do feel the pocketbook issues here in South Carolina. And at the end of the day, I think people this
30:14November are going to vote on pocketbook issues. The Republican Party, Donald Trump, they know that
30:19folks are not happy and they're unpleased with their policies. And so thus, they are trying to
30:24truly steal as many seats as they possibly can. And he has done this with the assist of a radical
30:30Supreme Court that has honestly done everything that it possibly could to overturn precedent.
30:36So pocketbook issues, Chris, to answer your question, are really important to all of us here in
30:41South Carolina. And I think voters are going to vote with their pocketbook come this November.
30:45You mentioned how important South Carolina is to Democrats. I was there when Joe Biden's campaign
30:51completely turned around when he won that primary with Jim Clyburn's endorsement, right?
30:55We're seeing 2028 possible contenders already popping up in the South. Arizona Senator Mark Kelly
31:01was in South Carolina on Friday. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was at a rally in Montgomery, Alabama. Take a
31:07listen. I'm here today because I want to make sure that we all understand that Montgomery is not alone. It
31:17is time for the North to pull up to the South. It is time for New York to pull up
31:25to Alabama.
31:27It is time for all of us to come to Georgia, to Louisiana, to Tennessee, to Mississippi and let them
31:36know exactly what they have on court with this injustice. Let's talk about the numbers. And then
31:44what that one state senator said that we led this segment, which was that the entire South is on fire.
31:50The Congressional Black Caucus is warning that as many as a third of its members could lose their
31:55seats because of this congressional redistricting. How serious is the threat as you see it? And how
32:02can Democrats use that? Well, it's a hugely serious threat. And more relevantly, when Democratic
32:07states up north begin to redistrict in the same way that Republican members are redistricting,
32:11there it's going to dilute, it has to dilute the black vote as well, because that's the way you
32:15accumulate more and more Democratic seats in places like New York, places like New Jersey, and so on.
32:20So we'll probably have fewer black representatives across the board because of this whole push.
32:27It is deeply concerning. And for anybody who says, well, you know, white voters can still vote for
32:33black representatives. Come on. Come on. There's a reason why the Civil Rights Act existed. There is
32:38a reason why you are now about to see a complete eradication of black power in Congress. It is
32:43precisely because of these kinds of places. White voters will not vote for black representatives.
32:48You could call it racism. You could call it whatever you want. I call it racism. But the reality is
32:53the reality, which is that we are going to have many, many, many fewer representatives of color.
32:59We are not a white country. We're about to be a majority-minority country. And yet our Congress,
33:04because of the design of the Republican Party, and most importantly, the Supreme Court, which is
33:08obviously predominantly white, is making this a minority-rule country that is about to rule the
33:14majority of the people who are no longer white. That is a massive problem. Look at your history.
33:20This is how empires collapse, because democracy no longer exists.
33:24Julie Raginski, I have to let that be the last word. State Representative Gambrill Garfin,
33:29thank you as well. Well, the CDC says it's working to track down and withdraw a small number of
33:35Americans who are directly affected by an Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo and
33:40Uganda. The World Health Organization declares the situation a global health emergency,
33:46more than 300 suspected cases, 88 suspected deaths so far. Joining me now, Sky News correspondent,
33:53Ashish Joshi. What more can you tell us about this?
33:59I can tell you we have a public health emergency in Central Africa, which is very, very serious. And
34:05the American citizens will need to be found very quickly. They'll need to be taken out of the country
34:10and taken into specialist health care if they have any chance of surviving. We know Ebola virus is a
34:17virus which jumps from animals into humans and then is passed on human to human transmission. It starts
34:25off like a viral fever, much like flu symptoms in the beginning, but that deteriorates very quickly. And
34:33there's bleeding internally and externally. And then the major organs fail. At the moment, we have
34:38hundreds of infections. We will have hundreds of deaths because we are behind the curve on this.
34:43This is a particular strain of the Ebola virus. In the past, when we've had outbreaks causing thousands
34:50of deaths, they have been caused by strains which are known to the health regime. They are the Sudan
34:57strain, the Zaire strain. But this one is the Bundabugio strain. And that's why the surveillance
35:02networks in Central and Western Africa didn't pick this strain up. So we don't know how far behind the
35:08curve we are on this. We know there are hundreds of infections reporting as far from Kinshasa and the
35:13Democratic Republic of Congo all the way across the border into Uganda. So we know that this is
35:19being transported across borders. It's already being transmitted human to human. And we also know
35:25that health workers are being infected as well. So there's a real risk that this virus is now spread
35:31and the World Health Organization is weeks behind. That's why it's taken us so seriously. We also know
35:38that there are no therapeutics and no vaccines for this particular strain of the virus. That's what's
35:43imperative, that anyone who has symptoms does get immediate medical help. Ashish Joshi, thank you so
35:51much. Coming up is President Trump's Department of Justice eroding the trust of judges. We'll dig
35:57into two cases that prompted stark rebukes from judges in Rhode Island.
36:09Today, we have two new instances of federal judges refusing to take what President Trump's DOJ says
36:16at face value. So there were judges in two different Rhode Island cases. They now say prosecutors
36:22either lied or knowingly left out critical information from their court filings. MSNOW senior legal reporter
36:29Lisa Rubin is here. Give us a little bit of background on this. So, Chris, these are two very different
36:34cases, one involving an immigrant detainee who is petitioning to be released. The other has to do with the
36:40Department of Justice running an investigation into the provision of medical care for minors who want
36:46to change genders. And in both cases, district court judges in Rhode Island, which I should tell you,
36:52only has three lifetime tenure judges. So two out of the three in the last two weeks have caught
36:57Department of Justice lawyers, I'm sorry, either lying in their court or misrepresenting and critically
37:05omitting information that they would have wanted to have at their possession. That is a very, very big
37:12deal. And the fact that we should see one of these cases, let alone two, in the very tiny district
37:18of
37:18Rhode Island in such a short period of time is an indication that something different might be going
37:23on with this Department of Justice. Well, can we just point out that these two very different issues
37:28are nevertheless two issues that are politically fraught and where the Trump administration has
37:34been extraordinarily clear about where they stand and what they want? That's absolutely true. And in
37:39the first of them, the Department of Justice lawyer basically admitted to the judge, I withheld
37:43information from you about this detainee, namely that he is wanted on an arrest from the Dominican
37:49Republic for murder. I withheld that from you at the request of ICE in the Department of Homeland
37:55Security and I regret that I did that. That lawyer is now under investigation in the district of Rhode
38:00Island. And the other case, it evolves obviously gender affirming care for minors. The Department
38:05of Justice starting this broad-based investigation into what they alleged was misbranding of FDA-approved
38:12drugs. The judge noting in her opinion, misbranding of FDA-approved drugs sounds a lot like off-label
38:17uses, which is expressly allowed under federal law. And she's basically saying you're trying to
38:22investigate people doing something that's perfectly lawful. You might not like it, but that's not
38:27ground for a criminal investigation, let alone a subpoena to a hospital seeking private information
38:32about minors and the care that they received. Lisa Rubin, always great to see you, my friend.
38:36Thank you for having me. That's going to do it for us this hour. Make sure to join us for
38:40Chris
38:40Chansing Reports every weekday, noon to 2 p.m. Eastern, right here on MS Now. Our coverage continues
38:46with Katie Turrell reports next.
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