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00:18On this episode of Predator Files, how long has he been preying on minors?
00:22What has he been doing to his own daughter?
00:24Get in, get in, get in, get in, get in, get in.
00:25A dangerous abuser of teenage girls has a long rap sheet.
00:29This man is sitting here with an erection, talking to a 14-year-old.
00:33But will he pay for his crimes?
00:35What about the conversations about her sitting on your face?
00:38And the conclusion to the professor shocks the teeth.
00:41That is so disturbing.
00:43Oh my God.
00:44Okay, we can find him.
00:45Turn your car off, turn your car off.
00:47Those are the facts.
00:47All we can do is point to the truth.
00:50I created Sosa, a non-profit aimed at keeping kids safe from online sex abuse and human trafficking.
00:57Multiple times a year, my team and I conduct undercover operations.
01:01Get out of your vehicle, now!
01:02Let me see your hands.
01:04Partnering with law enforcement, we identify and arrest the world's most dangerous perpetrators of sex abuse.
01:10What's going on?
01:11Gunpoint felony.
01:12Child prostitution.
01:17These are the Predator Files.
01:38We got nose down, partial face.
01:40And he was ear-to-ear smiling the whole time.
01:52The good news is, I think he absolutely buys it.
01:55Yeah.
01:55From his face, what we can see of it, I would say he's 45 minimum.
02:0145 minimum.
02:02Sosa has been engaging with a Predator who claims to be a college professor.
02:08Oriana's decoy, Sadie, has received a deluge of illicit and illegal material, along with promises of a sexual encounter, with
02:15the professor even clocking her ovulation cycle, in the hopes of getting a 14-year-old girl pregnant.
02:23This man is sitting here with an erection, talking to a 14-year-old.
02:26He says, I feel ridiculously dirty.
02:30He said, send more, more selfies, more selfies.
02:34Hopefully, we can get a selfie of him.
02:40We've seen a little bit of his face, but we have almost nothing on this man.
02:57That is so disturbing.
03:01Sticking his tongue out in the grossest way.
03:04He was slurping?
03:06Okay, I'm looking in the background.
03:08Do you think that's his bed?
03:09He's at home, on a couch, or in bed, or something.
03:13He said, I would 100% lick you.
03:15Ew.
03:20Sweetheart, obviously your vagina.
03:23He said, I want to be there.
03:25I really, really, really don't want to get in trouble.
03:27I said, well, are you married or single?
03:29Are you afraid your wife would tell?
03:31I'm afraid I'll get caught fucking a 14-year-old.
03:35Oh, we have a video.
03:39I actually want you to taste it for yourself.
03:42This guy has already broken the law.
03:44At this point, he's ready for arrest.
03:46It's just that we have no idea who he is.
03:49It's day five of Operation Nightshade,
03:51and the team still has dozens of ACMs engaging with our decoys.
03:57Through our five days in Oklahoma,
03:59Sosa and the Canadian County Sheriff's Office have produced 10 arrests.
04:03This morning, while we work to identify the professor,
04:07yet another ACM is actively engaging with Oriana's decoy, Sadie.
04:12The engagement is quick, the conversation elevated, and the abuse, immediate.
04:17The team moves a perpetrator we're calling the escape artist to the top of the list.
04:24After being informed that our decoy is just 14,
04:28he responds by asking her about her body,
04:31suggesting that she sit on his face.
04:35Finally, he shows her a picture of an erect penis.
04:42What's interesting is that both his Snapchat and the other site have his full name.
04:48The same name on both full name.
04:50Also, his location is shared on Snapchat, which just seems a little lazy.
04:54Like on the SnapMath?
04:54Yeah.
04:55Wow.
04:56Let's search with what we have of him, and then go from there.
05:00I'll just search his name.
05:03ACMs usually go out of their way to conceal their identities.
05:06But surprisingly, the escape artist seems to be using identifying information on his social profiles.
05:13Oh my god, you guys.
05:14You found him?
05:16Yeah.
05:17Listen to this title.
05:19I'm 31 from came to meet what he thought was a 15-year-old, but ran into a dead.
05:25Wait, this is not a news...
05:27It's a vigilante group.
05:29So he's already been caught in, I mean, not in a legal capacity, but oh my...
05:34Come here, let's watch this.
05:38Ohriana has found our perpetrator online, in another sting.
05:42This time, however, the work of a local vigilante group.
05:45In this case, the escape artist was apparently set to meet another teen girl, and subsequently
05:51outed online, sadly, without any law enforcement involvement.
05:55Like, of course he gets away.
05:57Well, hold on.
05:57I'm just curious to see if there's a charge against him.
05:59Yeah.
06:01When...
06:01What's the date on that video?
06:04Um...
06:04This is from four years ago.
06:09First of all, I'm seeing tons of charges.
06:12Possession of a controlled substance and drug paraphernalia.
06:17Petit larceny.
06:18That's interesting.
06:20Trafficking illegal drugs.
06:22I mean, clearly he's very familiar with law enforcement.
06:25A divorce.
06:26Oh.
06:28There was a protective order.
06:29Really?
06:31Permanent protective order issued.
06:33Clearly very dangerous.
06:36I looked at the post.
06:37From the vigilante group?
06:38Yeah.
06:39So that was posted five years ago, but I just changed the comments to sort by newest.
06:42And the newest one said, that's crazy.
06:45His daughter isn't much younger than that.
06:47Oh.
06:48And then, this repeat felon drug offender, who not only is a predator to young women,
06:54but is also abusive to his 86-year-old grandmother.
06:56The dude just keeps adding to the list.
06:58Check out OSCN.
06:59It doesn't lie.
07:00He's still doing meth as of January 2023.
07:03That's the second time he's been caught doing something like this.
07:05And 2019 wasn't his first offense.
07:07How long has he been preying on minors?
07:10What has he been doing to his own daughter?
07:12If not his own daughter.
07:14I mean, if you're a dad.
07:16Somebody's daughter.
07:17If you're a dad, you have access to...
07:19I mean, I've got teenage and tween daughters.
07:21I've got teenage girls in and out of my house all the time.
07:24Not even my own.
07:25Just like friends, neighborhood kids.
07:26When you're a parent to a minor, you have access to a lot of minors.
07:30Though our opinions are conjecture until proven in a court of law,
07:34the escape artist's circumstances may be a dire example
07:38of a perp who's repeatedly evaded punishment,
07:40only to be accused of offending again and again.
07:46Today, thanks to the quick work of the Canadian County Sheriff's Office,
07:51we're off to Norman, Oklahoma,
07:53the last known address of the escape artist.
07:56We locate it with the information that Rue gave us where he's at.
08:02Lives in an apartment complex up here in Norman.
08:05Do you think he's home?
08:06Should be.
08:07All right.
08:08Coming to the end of a holiday weekend.
08:11As we enter the suspect's apartment complex,
08:13the layout is immediately a cause for confusion.
08:16Though we have his address,
08:18the team has trouble locating his building.
08:21I'm not even seeing building numbers, are y'all?
08:24I've seen building three,
08:27and they're on the front.
08:28As we look for his car,
08:30the immediate concern is that he'll spot law enforcement,
08:33potentially erase his devices,
08:35or worse, flee the scene.
08:39There's a lot of different floors here.
08:40I just want to know exactly what door it would be.
08:43I can scope out the staircases,
08:45see what the ins and outs are.
08:49Yeah, Rue's about to look,
08:51see if she sees the door.
08:53Oh, yeah.
08:54Pretending as if I'm delivering food to a nearby apartment,
08:57I go into what we believe is the escape artist's building.
09:01Yeah, she fits the part.
09:02Looks like who breathes.
09:04Meeting in the hallway is unlikely,
09:06but getting a layout of the building is crucial
09:09if the officers are going to approach on foot.
09:12Sadly, however, the complex is so confusing
09:15that we still aren't sure of the correct building.
09:18I make one last attempt at locating his vehicle,
09:21a white SUV,
09:23before calling it quits.
09:24Is that him right there pulling in?
09:28That's him.
09:29Get in, get in, get in, get in, get in, get in, get in.
09:31Just as the team hits a dead end,
09:33the escape artist's car enters through the front gate.
09:37Sergeant Cates pursues,
09:39mindful of the escape artist's lengthy rap sheet,
09:41including trafficking methamphetamines.
09:44Turn your car off.
09:45Turn your car off.
09:46Step out.
09:48You don't have any weapons on you, right?
09:50No.
09:51What's your name?
09:52What?
09:53What?
09:55Okay.
09:57Turn around and face the car.
09:58I'm sorry.
09:59All right, turn around and look at me, bro.
10:03Tell me about your social media activities today.
10:08Today?
10:09Mm-hmm.
10:10Yesterday and today.
10:12I haven't had any activities.
10:14Okay.
10:15I'm Lieutenant Cates
10:16with the Canadian County Sheriff's Office.
10:18We're going to have a seat in my truck.
10:20Yes, sir.
10:20And you and I are going to talk for a minute, okay?
10:22Yep.
10:23Okay.
10:23Come right over here.
10:25You got to go further.
10:29I am the Internet Crimes Against Children's
10:32investigator for Canadian County.
10:35That means anything to do with child pornography,
10:40CSAM, inappropriate conversations
10:42with underage girls.
10:44Well, I probably have a pretty good idea.
10:46Okay.
10:46What's a pretty good idea?
10:48Well, there's a dating app that I was on.
10:50Okay.
10:51Okay.
10:53This was yesterday.
10:54Nothing happened today.
10:55Okay.
10:57Me and a girl, supposedly from, I think, El Reno, maybe,
11:03exchanged Snapchats.
11:04Okay.
11:05You know, we're not very good.
11:07Okay.
11:08I don't know if I need to tell you everything, but...
11:10Tell me about the video.
11:13That was just a video off the Internet.
11:15Was it?
11:15Yeah.
11:16Okay.
11:17But...
11:17How old did she tell you she was?
11:18But I got...
11:19But I got...
11:19Whenever I got back on there and was looking through her,
11:24just going back through our messages or whatever,
11:28and I seen that she said she was 14 years old,
11:32and then I deleted her from Snapchat
11:34and went and deleted her from the Scout account.
11:37Okay.
11:38Okay.
11:38But I don't mean it for that.
11:39I'm already too far, you know?
11:41Yeah.
11:42Because...
11:42That's what...
11:43The conversation and the fact that she identified and told you she was 14,
11:50and then you still carried on the conversation,
11:52and then sending the video.
11:54Mm-hmm.
11:55That's why I'm here.
11:57Okay?
11:58Why, when she identified as 14, did you not stop immediately?
12:03I mean, I'm just being honest with you.
12:06Whenever I...
12:07I did not see that message come through at all.
12:10I put it on the Lord.
12:12I did not see that message come through.
12:13Because on Snapchat, if you have the deal open,
12:17it shows you've read it.
12:19You know, like, whether you physically...
12:21I mean, if you just set your phone down
12:24and your Snapchat was open with her, you know,
12:27her window or whatever, you know,
12:30she could send you 100 messages while you're in there doing dishes,
12:32and it's going to show you read every single one.
12:35And we didn't send that many messages,
12:38and I went and I...
12:39You know, I don't remember how she said it.
12:42But I think she said 14.
12:44Right.
12:44And then I went on there, and I hit delete.
12:47Okay.
12:47You frequent these sites, the dating sites?
12:50Um, no.
12:53Well, I did, you know...
12:55But is that normal for that sort of a conversation
12:58to be sending a video like that?
13:00And I'm just asking, because I don't know.
13:03I haven't done that.
13:04I've been married going on 20 years, so...
13:06No, it's not respectful at all.
13:09Right.
13:09If I tell you that I have y'all's conversation...
13:14Yeah, yes.
13:14Okay.
13:15And I see your response immediately
13:19after she identifies as being 14,
13:24doesn't that tell me that you saw that message?
13:27I mean, I know from anybody,
13:30or, you know, you or whoever looking at it,
13:33just by the timestamps or whatever,
13:34I'm sure it does.
13:35Yes, sir.
13:36Okay.
13:37So, that's what I'm saying.
13:38So, if she sends you a message saying,
13:40hey, I'm 14,
13:41and then 30 seconds later, you're responding,
13:44that means you saw that message,
13:46because that's not enough time.
13:48And I don't know what you're saying.
13:51The escape artist continues making excuse after excuse.
13:55Why?
13:56When we disclosed that we were 14 years old,
13:58did he then immediately send a nude photo?
14:01Was it an honest mistake,
14:02or is it a pattern of behavior
14:05from a man who's been accused of improper activities
14:08with children for years?
14:11So, what about the conversations about her bottom
14:16and her sitting on your face?
14:25When did she identify as 14?
14:27Immediately.
14:28I'll say.
14:29Right before he sent it.
14:31It's in chronological order.
14:32Right, but he's trying to claim
14:33that he didn't see the message of her being 14 until today,
14:37and that's why he blocked her.
14:39This guy is claiming that he didn't realize
14:41that Sadie said she was 14,
14:44and once he went back and looked,
14:47then that's when he blocked her.
14:48But, as I said, you know,
14:51I had the time stamps.
14:53It's bullshit,
14:54because at 9.40 p.m., he blocked her.
14:58And then at 10.09 p.m.,
15:00he went back and said,
15:01okay, what are you doing?
15:02So, if he blocked her because he was concerned,
15:04oh, no, she's only 14,
15:06then why the hell did he message her
15:08a half an hour later?
15:09This is bullshit.
15:10He blocks on Snapchat at 9.40 p.m.
15:13Last night?
15:14Yep, and then at 10.09 p.m.,
15:16he messages her again.
15:17What was the message?
15:18What are you doing?
15:19Okay.
15:20All we can do is point to the truth,
15:22and the truth is he messaged.
15:24The truth is we disclosed age.
15:26He sent the video.
15:27He blocked.
15:28Then he went back on the first step
15:30and messaged her again.
15:31All we're doing is dealing in facts.
15:33Those are the facts.
15:35Listen to me, okay?
15:37Sure.
15:38To help yourself right now, okay?
15:40I need honesty.
15:41I'm being 100% honest.
15:43Okay.
15:44So, you told me you blocked her.
15:47Yes, sir.
15:47You blocked her last night at 9.40.
15:51And then at 10.09,
15:54you messaged her again.
15:55What are you doing?
15:58Yeah.
15:59Yeah.
16:00So, yeah, I do.
16:01Like I told you,
16:02I did messaged her,
16:03because I was, you know,
16:05and then I...
16:05And then the video.
16:08Okay.
16:10After the message of being 14.
16:12If I was looking at me right now,
16:16I mean, you know,
16:18gosh,
16:20there ain't no way around it,
16:21you know?
16:21So, you know...
16:23Exactly.
16:24So, you see where I'm at?
16:25I do see where you're at.
16:26I understand 100%.
16:29Your phone's gonna go with me.
16:31Okay?
16:33And a forensic download's gonna be done on it.
16:35Okay.
16:36Okay?
16:37Am I gonna find any images on there
16:40that I need to know about now?
16:44I mean, like...
16:45Like child porn?
16:47But no.
16:48To answer your question, no.
16:50Okay.
16:50So, I'm not gonna find any of those images on here?
16:52You're gonna find...
16:53You're gonna find that video?
16:55That was...
16:55That was...
16:56Am I gonna find any conversations
16:57of you having with other young girls?
17:02Not that...
17:02Not under my knowledge.
17:03No, sir.
17:04No, definitely not.
17:05Okay.
17:07I'm gonna just be honest with you, okay?
17:09Even if you deleted it...
17:10Y'all, three crimes, my favorite.
17:12Exactly.
17:12My favorite.
17:13So, you know.
17:14Yeah, so I know.
17:15My forensic tools are pretty darn good.
17:17Right.
17:18Right.
17:18And I get...
17:20Everything back.
17:21Right.
17:21Okay?
17:22I'll be right back.
17:30Did you get the truth revised?
17:33Yes and no.
17:35He knows.
17:37He knows.
17:38He's just...
17:39Then why say W-Y-D?
17:41He knows what he did.
17:42So, I'm gonna tell you what the situation is, okay?
17:47I am going to allow you to take your groceries and your dog up to your apartment, but you
17:53are gonna go with me today.
17:59Because of the conversation and because of the video that you sent her, well, after she identified
18:05as being 14, I'm not saying you are lying.
18:08I'm just saying I have to go off the evidence that is in front of me and what you've explained
18:14to me, and you will have your chance to explain it to the D.A. and the judge, but I
18:22have to
18:22do my job.
18:26Do you have any weapons up in your house?
18:28Okay.
18:30Let's go ahead and take your groceries up.
18:35The escape artist is taken into custody.
18:38Hopefully, after repeated incidents that have been shrugged off as coincidental, he'll finally
18:43pay for his criminal behavior against teen girls.
18:48Back at the house, we refocus on the professor, who is the man that's been terrorizing our teenage
18:55decoy.
18:56All right, we have to find out who this guy is.
18:59Hold on.
19:00What?
19:01The professor self-deleted Reddit.
19:04Like, he probably cycles through his accounts because he is constantly breaking the law.
19:10So, he can only stay, he can stay with one username for so long because he has a trail.
19:15That, like, documents all the laws he's breaking.
19:19This is an educated man.
19:20He's using his intellect to commit criminal activity in a very covert way.
19:25The professor has deleted his Reddit profile, a common tactic for serial abusers, men who
19:31stalk subreddits where teens gather like our teenagers.
19:35But the trail of his activity remains.
19:37Using his previous username, the team will sort through every upvote and every comment in every
19:44forum to glean more information about him.
19:48What?
19:49Quiet spots on campus to scream.
19:52Hold on a second.
19:53What thread?
19:54Hold on, hold on, hold on.
19:56Hold on.
19:56Hold on.
19:58University.
19:59Okay.
20:00Oh my God.
20:01Okay, we can find him.
20:02Ontario.
20:04What?
20:06It's in Canada?
20:07For our entire interaction, the professor has claimed to live locally in Oklahoma City,
20:13but it's now revealed that he may be Canadian.
20:17Often a tactic of serial abusers in pursuit of CSAM, they will claim to be local to trick
20:22a teen into feeling a relationship as possible.
20:25University, we have an age range.
20:27Right.
20:28He doesn't have to be a professor, but he can be an assistant.
20:31And there's one guy that doesn't have a picture.
20:35It's possible he could not want his picture on there for a reason.
20:38Interesting.
20:40He uses the British spelling of center.
20:43D-E-M-T-R-E.
20:47Maybe, maybe, find more pictures of him.
20:50He has a very distinctive lip shape.
20:55Guys!
20:55After searching the faculty database at the university in Ontario.
20:59No!
21:00I went through everybody, I went through everybody on the university.
21:03The team thinks they've found a match for the professor.
21:06I screenshotted so many of these men.
21:08But when you look at this guy, his face there, he's got a very, very, very, very, very distinctive
21:13mouth, and he has a very skinny lip.
21:16He's got the same lips.
21:18He plays music.
21:19He does music in his free time.
21:21And he's the only one at this place.
21:24His lips do the same thing.
21:27Here's my concern.
21:28And the thing in the middle.
21:29He's playing the violin.
21:30Why wouldn't he have said something?
21:34Because Oriana played the violin for him.
21:37Are we sure he didn't say that?
21:38He did not.
21:39He only said piano and guitar.
21:42We believe we know where the professor's located.
21:45But unfortunately, we haven't yet identified him.
21:48We'll continue to look at multiple individuals and additional evidence before we can determine
21:54who's responsible for the professor's heinous crimes.
21:57Our investigation will continue.
22:27You
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