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A heated Senate exchange unfolds as Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand challenges CENTCOM commander Adm. Brad Cooper over explosive allegations claiming U.S. actions targeted schools and civilians in Iran. Cooper firmly rejects the claims, stating there is no confirmed evidence supporting the accusations, intensifying political tensions and debate in Washington.
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00:00There's no indication that we have that that has been corroborated.
00:03How many schools have we bombed?
00:05There is one active civilian casualty investigation from the 13,629 munitions.
00:11So how do you explain the publicly available information that 22 schools have been hit and multiple hospitals?
00:17There's no way that we can corroborate that. No indication of that whatsoever, Senator.
00:21There's no way you can corroborate or no indication of it? Which one?
00:24No indication.
00:25Have you investigated those claims?
00:27We have not.
00:28Why have you not investigated those allegations when they're publicly being made on the cover of The New York Times?
00:33We had Secretary Hegseth here a week or so ago, and we did not get satisfactory answers about Iran.
00:42So what is your mission in Iran right now?
00:47Senator, with Epic Fury now formally ended per the president's notification,
00:53we shifted our mission to a blockade mission in the following day,
00:57and that we're implementing that mission in accordance with the international armed conflict.
01:01That's our main mission today, as well as to be ready for a broad range of contingencies.
01:05And do you feel that President Trump's declaration that we have obliterated all of Iran's capabilities
01:14and their nuclear program, is that accurate?
01:19Senator, I speak from a military perspective.
01:21We have significantly degraded their drone, missile, and naval capabilities.
01:26We've fractured their command and control.
01:28We've eliminated the large preponderance of their space program.
01:32They, by every measure, are degraded significantly across all measures of national power.
01:38So what's your exit strategy to end the conflict with Iran?
01:42Senator, that's a policy decision.
01:44And don't you have to offer the president various exit strategies so he knows how to get from A to
01:49B?
01:50Senator, consistent with my statutory obligations, I've provided a broad range of options,
01:55along with risks and mitigations through the secretary.
01:59So given your current mission, how many more days, weeks, months, years are we going to be at war with
02:04Iran?
02:06Well, as we sit here today, we are in a ceasefire.
02:09And the way ahead will be determined by our policymakers.
02:13Well, currently, we are still spending a billion dollars a day on this war with Iran.
02:17And I can tell you from my New York constituents, they're furious about it.
02:21Because a billion dollars a day could be lowering their housing costs, lowering their food costs,
02:26lowering their health care costs, lowering the cost of everyday expenses that continue to go up
02:30because of the war in Iran.
02:32With the price of gas as high as it is, the price of diesel as high as it is,
02:36it means everything that they have to buy for their families is more expensive.
02:40So we expect from our military leaders a plan about why and how long we are going to be spending
02:47a billion dollars a day.
02:49And I have not seen that plan or the why from President Trump or Secretary Hegseth.
02:54So I'm hoping, as the military person in charge of operations, that you have a plan to end this war
03:01and to stop spending a billion dollars a day.
03:05Senator, we have a broad range of plans and contingencies consistent with my obligation
03:11to provide that advice.
03:13Both the Secretary and the President, we've done so.
03:15Decisions will be made by our civilian leadership.
03:18And my job will be to execute them.
03:19The second concern I have, Admiral Cooper, is how we've prosecuted this war to date.
03:25We have data and information publicly available in publications like the New York Times
03:30that 22 schools have been hit, hospitals, dozens of hospitals have been hit.
03:36We have regulations.
03:38We have the law of war.
03:40We have human rights obligations.
03:42We have our own targeting requirements to avoid civilian harm and death.
03:48Have you been implementing all the laws that are required under current law to minimize civilian death?
03:56Senator, we have executed every operation consistent with the law of armed conflict.
04:01The subject of civilian casualties is a particular passion of mine.
04:04We pay attention to it.
04:05We follow all the procedures and have gone above and beyond to, in my case,
04:10personally warn the Iranian people of several instances during conflict where they were being potentially used as human targets.
04:16How did we then bomb 22 schools?
04:19There's no indication that we have that that has been corroborated.
04:23How many schools have we bombed?
04:24There is one active civilian casualty investigation from the 13,629 munitions.
04:30So how do you explain the publicly available information that 22 schools have been hit and multiple hospitals?
04:37There's no way that we can corroborate that.
04:39No indication of that whatsoever, Senator.
04:40There's no way you can corroborate or no indication of it?
04:43Which one?
04:44No indication.
04:46Well, the indication is what's publicly available.
04:48There is indication.
04:49Have you investigated those claims?
04:51We have not.
04:52Why have you not?
04:54If this is a passion of yours, if you believe that the civilian casualties are not consistent with the law
05:00of war
05:00and not consistent with human rights obligations, that our military regularly follows with great pride and great diligence,
05:07why have you not investigated those allegations when they're publicly being made on the cover of the New York Times?
05:13I would be happy to take a look at each instance.
05:16I would like a report.
05:18I would like a report from you, from your team, about whether there have been
05:25attacks that have resulted in the destruction of schools and hospitals, and if so, why?
05:31And how, then, last, have you managed the 90% cut to the personnel who are supposed to avoid civilian
05:38targets?
05:40Happy to provide any report, and I would invite you and every staff member here to come to Tampa to
05:44look at the process,
05:45to see exactly how it works.
05:48Thank you, Radma.
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