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00:00Wild 94.1, the biggest party station, it is Babs, my guy Rich, and today we got a special guest.
00:05My boy Zilla Fatu in the building.
00:08Hello, thank you, man.
00:08Double champ over here.
00:10Double.
00:10Come on.
00:11It would have been three, but you know, Booker T, he done some weird stuff.
00:14Hold on, let's talk about this real quick, because people think that everybody's always arguing about wrestling.
00:20Is it real, is it not?
00:21But this beef is real.
00:22Of course.
00:23Every beef I got with everybody's real.
00:25Okay, so.
00:26Yeah, yeah.
00:26Okay, wait, so real quick, real quick, as a girl who kind of did some research before, I read that,
00:34like, he trained you?
00:36So what happened?
00:38So, you know, when I came home from prison, Booker T took me under his wing, you know, because he
00:43found out that I wanted to wrestle.
00:45I wanted to change my life around.
00:47And, you know, when I first got there, I thought I had to sign some paperwork.
00:50I thought I had to go through, you know, the regular, you know, health protocol.
00:55You got to sign all these hundreds of papers.
00:57But, no, it wasn't like that.
00:59I got in the ring as soon as I got there.
01:00Mario, you remember that, mama?
01:02We got in the ring as soon as we got there.
01:04And the first thing I ever did was the roll.
01:06He had to teach me how to roll.
01:09And, you know, he brought me into the game.
01:11And we have, like, a, you know, a student versus sensei kind of storyline going on.
01:15Well, he brought me into the game.
01:17Now he's trying to take me out because jealous, envy, I don't know.
01:21So maybe because I'm getting bigger than him, I don't know.
01:24So those are the answers I'm looking for.
01:26And I still haven't got it.
01:28They do say that people will help you out until they feel like you're getting bigger than them.
01:32Can you say that again?
01:34People will help you, support you until they feel like you're bigger than them.
01:38Hello.
01:38Then that's when the weirdness starts to happen.
01:41And you probably looked at him because, you know, did you grow up watching him wrestle?
01:45Of course, yeah.
01:45And looked at him as a mentor.
01:46So I'm pretty sure that, like, hurt you.
01:49It did.
01:49Hurt your family.
01:50And what hurt me the most was the closest person to him.
01:52She didn't say nothing to Queen Charmille.
01:54That's the crazy thing.
01:55She didn't say nothing to him.
01:57She just let him move how he moves.
01:59And, you know, that ended up with me leaving.
02:02You know, me, me, how do I say this?
02:05Me taking myself out the contract.
02:07Gotcha.
02:08And not being signed to Reality Wrestling.
02:11So, you know, when I first got into the game, he was, like I said, showing me love.
02:16He took me under his wing.
02:17And, you know, when I started getting these, these little gold right here that you can't get in the middle
02:20of them all,
02:21that's when the jealousy and the envy-ness and everything else just started happening.
02:26Like I said, I don't have no answers.
02:27Let's talk about the gold real quick because you got a House of Glory belt over here.
02:32You got a fourth rope belt.
02:34Like, how many companies are you working with right now?
02:37Man, I'm working with a lot, man.
02:38But my main ones, like you said, is House of Glory and Fourth Rope.
02:42Gotcha.
02:42You know, we taking over by, by a lot.
02:45You know, speaking of Fourth of July, we're going to be down there at Essence, man.
02:48Don't forget.
02:49Yes.
02:49You're going to be there, right?
02:49I love Essence.
02:51That's where all the grown men with good jobs are.
02:53Oh, yeah.
02:54Hey, hello to that.
02:55So, everybody down there, Fourth of July, y'all get ready, man.
02:59Fourth Rope going to be live and direct in New Orleans, Louisiana, man.
03:02Got you.
03:03So, let's talk about what's going on this weekend because big match going on and it's a big family affair.
03:08Talk about backlash at the bench, benchmark arena.
03:12And you know the two people, of course, very well in the main event.
03:16We talk about Roman Reigns and Jacob Fatu.
03:19Yeah.
03:19So, I got to know, they both your family.
03:21Of course.
03:22Whose side are you on in this rivalry going on right now?
03:24When it comes to, you know, something like this, I see it as like, you know, I'm chilling at the
03:29barbecue.
03:29You got your cousins always fighting.
03:31There's always these two cousins fighting.
03:33And what y'all do?
03:33Y'all don't do nothing.
03:34You just let them fight.
03:35Just watch.
03:36You just watch.
03:36You just watch.
03:37So, that's what I'm doing and I'm just watching and, you know, I'm not picking no sides as far as
03:41when it comes to both of them.
03:43But, you know, I can't call it right now.
03:45I'm just, I'm really, really, really excited to see the outcome.
03:48I'm really excited to, you know, I'm excited for you guys to watch too.
03:52Oh, hell yeah.
03:53I mean, dude, we're talking about Roman Reigns, 11 main cards, WrestleManias, 11 main events over there.
04:01And then Jacob coming up in the game right now.
04:02And he's becoming a big, big person.
04:05How do you feel seeing your family?
04:07Not only main event backlash, but main eventing these pay-per-views, doing everything, and how successful the family is.
04:14How does that make you feel?
04:15Oh, man, I love it.
04:16I love it.
04:16I love seeing my family up there.
04:18I just feel like it hit different now, too, for me because I'm actually in the business.
04:23Got you.
04:23And now I'm starting to see the in and outs of everything and starting to see the hard work that
04:28you got to put in.
04:30Because there's a lot of stuff I feel like that people don't really understand what us professional wrestlers go through.
04:35As far as with the traveling, as far as with the bumps that we take in the ring.
04:40Like, that all takes a toll on your body.
04:43And not only that, you're mental.
04:44So it's like, bro, we go through a lot.
04:46And people would think, you know, on the outside looking in that it would be like a Nepo baby situation
04:51for you just because you have such popular.
04:53Well, and now that I'm getting to, like, hear your story because you have popular family members in that were
04:59wrestlers while you were growing up.
05:01But, you know, from what you just told me, like, you had to really work hard yourself and learn every
05:07step of the way.
05:08Yeah, I think right now the Nepo whatever the...
05:11Nepo.
05:12Nepo baby.
05:13Nepotism.
05:13Nepotism, whatever you want to call it.
05:15I think I'm past that chapter.
05:17Right.
05:17I think this year, Zillafatu, myself, the main one of me and my team, I think we passed that of,
05:23oh, is Zillafatu, he's just Umaga's son.
05:26Like, nah.
05:27Right.
05:27We got more to it.
05:28Right.
05:28You know, because it's not just going to be anybody that holds this gold or holds this gold or let
05:34alone be in this building.
05:35Right.
05:35Exactly.
05:36You know what I mean?
05:36Gotcha.
05:37That part.
05:38Well, let's talk about your background a little bit because a lot of people, people that are just tapping in
05:42right now, getting to know you, they don't really know your past.
05:45And I want you to tell your story because I really do feel like this is something that could change
05:49maybe a kid's life or somebody out there that's in the streets.
05:52Like, I want you to talk about, like, your testament, your life, and what you've been through to get to
05:57where you are right now.
05:57Yeah, and can you start at the beginning?
05:59Of course.
05:59Because I'm intrigued.
06:00Of course.
06:01Like, I want to know, like, how you grew up and did you actually want to be a wrestler even
06:05though it was the family business?
06:06So, can you start from, like, childhood?
06:08Yeah, yeah, of course.
06:08So, when I first came in, it's where I had everything that a kid could ask for.
06:11I had everything that a kid could ask for.
06:14And then, you know, and then growing up, to answer that, on the side, I did not want to be
06:18a wrestler growing up.
06:19Me or my brothers.
06:20We never wanted to be wrestlers growing up.
06:23So, fast forward, you know, from the time I was born in 1999 to 2009, I had that window of
06:30having my dad there, of having a father present.
06:34So, when I lost him in 2009, it felt like I lost everything.
06:38I lost my hero.
06:39And then, from there, it just got to a point where, like, okay, I lost my hero.
06:43F it.
06:44I'm just going to – I don't care.
06:46I'm just going to start doing what I want to do and start hanging around whoever I want to hang
06:50around.
06:51Next thing you know, that ends up, you know, to me, being around the wrong crowd.
06:55And then, we moved from a nice neighborhood all in, like, in the projects.
07:00And that was a culture shock for me.
07:03And at that time, I didn't really see it.
07:05Obviously, when I got older, I was seeing it now.
07:07But at that time, I thought it was just normal.
07:09And then, I just started getting in trouble.
07:11I started skipping school.
07:13You know, I had an older brother that I really look up to named EJ.
07:16And he was, like, ranked number two in the nation with the running back in high school.
07:21So, he had all the scholarships in the world.
07:24And he ended up getting into trouble and lost all his scholarships.
07:28So, when I seen that, that made me, like, not care.
07:31I was, like, okay, babe, I'm just going to live life.
07:34And whatever comes with it, come with it.
07:37And then, next thing you know, you know, I started getting real heavy, heavy in the streets.
07:43And I got locked up for aggravated robbery.
07:46And I was 16 years old.
07:48And the first offer they offered me was 35 years.
07:51And at that time, I was like, damn, 35 years.
07:53I'm thinking all this is normal.
07:55I'm thinking me going to court as a young man is normal.
07:57I'm thinking me seeing my mom in the courtroom is normal.
08:00But I was just, I was so, like, messed up in the head that it wasn't normal.
08:04You know?
08:05And then, the judge ended up giving me, you know, I was fighting the case years after years.
08:10And the judge gave me 10 years.
08:13And in Texas, any aggravated cases, you have to do 50% of that.
08:19Just to come off, and parole is not even guaranteed.
08:22Right.
08:23You have to do 50% of whatever they give you off top, mandatory.
08:27So, I did five years in prison.
08:30And I was supposed to come home during COVID.
08:34But COVID ended up pushing back all of our paperwork.
08:36So, I didn't come home two years later.
08:39I had to do an extra two years on top of the parole that I already did.
08:43And I came home March 22, 2022.
08:48So, from there, when I came home, I tried to look for a job.
08:52My mom's my witness.
08:53Like, I tried to look for a job.
08:55Nobody would hire me because of my background.
08:57I tried to go, you know, do a couple construction stuff.
09:01But my back was hurting.
09:03I was like, this ain't it.
09:05First, let me just sneak in and say, this is not Nepo stuff at all.
09:08So, you can never say Nepo anything when it comes to Zilla.
09:11But, yeah, I'm sorry.
09:12Continue.
09:12So, yeah, I couldn't get no job.
09:14And then, I remember I just woke up one day.
09:16And I was like, damn, we still got wrestling.
09:19It's wrestling.
09:19Because we always told when growing up, wrestling will always be an option for us.
09:23Go do other stuff.
09:25Wrestling will always be here.
09:27And, you know, it's safe to say it was here.
09:29It was always an option.
09:31And I called Booker T, and I was like, hey, Uss, I want to wrestle.
09:35And he was like, you for real?
09:37I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm for real.
09:39And he was like, all right, well, you need to talk to your mom first.
09:41And then, you know, call me back.
09:42And at that time, I didn't realize.
09:44I was like, why do I need to talk to my mom?
09:47But I'm happy I did.
09:48Because, you know, to get her approval, to, you know, support me in my dreams, that meant the world to
09:53me.
09:54And that's all I needed just to start.
09:56So when my mom told me, she was like, all right, son, if you serious about wrestling, then let's do
10:00it.
10:00But let's do it together.
10:02And let's make it work.
10:05And I remember, like I said, that first day I went there, I thought I was going to sign papers.
10:09Nah, he put me right in the ring.
10:11As soon as I got in there, he put me right in the ring.
10:13I had to do like 100 rolls.
10:14I had to hit the ropes.
10:15I had to do all that.
10:16And my first month, sis, my first month of training, I wanted to quit.
10:20I was like, nah, this ain't it.
10:22This ain't for me.
10:22This is not where my heart's at.
10:23I don't like this.
10:24It's too much.
10:26Right.
10:27And then, you know, this is the power of having the right people around you when they, you know, especially
10:32when you really need it.
10:33My mom, she was always there.
10:34My friends, my team, they were always there to be like, nah, you got it.
10:38Just keep going.
10:39There's something here.
10:41And then, boom, I finally, you know, trained for a few months.
10:46And have in mind, you're supposed to train for a couple years before you get your first match.
10:50I trained for three months.
10:52And my first match was my fifth month.
10:54And Booker T told me, he's like, hey, I'm going to debut you as Summer of Champions.
11:00And I need you to be ready.
11:02And from there, I was like, okay, bet.
11:04I'm going to get ready.
11:06Our first, my first debut that I made at the Humboldt Civic Center in Houston, Texas, we broke the attendance
11:11record at Reality of Wrestling after 20 plus years.
11:15There you go.
11:15It was my first match.
11:16That's what's up.
11:17And we broke the attendance record.
11:18So, from there, and then not only that, when I started wrestling, my first match, I seen my old friends
11:24who I used to be with.
11:25I see the friends I got now.
11:27I see my coaches, my teachers, my grandma, my mama, my family, and all of them supporting.
11:34The feeling I got when I came out, that's all I needed to, like, be like, okay, this is it.
11:40Right.
11:41This is where it's at.
11:42So, I took that feeling, and I took off.
11:45You know what I mean?
11:46And then two years later, three years later, here we are.
11:48I got this.
11:49Damn.
11:49You know what I mean?
11:50And it's crazy, because, like I said, I never had this in mind growing up.
11:55I did not want to wrestle.
11:56I didn't want to do none of that.
11:57And, yeah, wrestling saved my life.
11:59Now, was it hard to get out of the prison mentality, like, getting out?
12:04Did it take a while to, like, shake that?
12:06Or even the street mentality.
12:08Of course, of course, yeah, yeah, it did.
12:10It took, like, six to nine months for me just to readjust back in society.
12:14Right.
12:15One, I didn't even know how to work my phone.
12:17So, yeah, for real, my mom, she had to teach me how to work the phone.
12:21And then, two, I was so institutionalized in a small space that I was so used to just being in
12:28my room that my mom, she had to tell me, like, son, you know you can go out, right?
12:33You know you can go to the gas station, right, and get some drink or whatever you need.
12:36Like, so I was really institutionalized.
12:39But then as my, you know, my brother started coming around, my cousin started coming around, and, you know, I
12:45started actually going out, I started getting comfortable.
12:49Because it was kind of hard for me.
12:50And it's still hard for me to be in an environment where a lot of people, because I get paranoid.
12:56You know what I mean?
12:56I mean, I just, and it's not me being scared, it's just my antennas go up, you know.
13:00And as far as with the street mentality, I have to really balance and take a step back and be
13:08like, hold on, I'm not in prison.
13:09Especially being in this wrestling business.
13:11Right.
13:12You know what I mean?
13:12Because the first thing I want to do is slap somebody.
13:15Yeah, gotcha.
13:15And it's like, you know, in prison, that was the first, that's how we move.
13:19But out here, you can't do that.
13:20Slap somebody, you go right back.
13:21So now it's like, I got to find a different way to communicate with these promoters to where they can
13:27understand me, where I'm not playing no games.
13:31And good thing was, you know, I never had a, you know, a problem with that.
13:35Gotcha.
13:35So we blessed.
13:36Hello.
13:37You know, on social media, we always see these videos.
13:39Like, if you could talk to yourself 10 years ago, what would you tell yourself 10 years ago?
13:44What would be the message you would tell yourself or a message that you would tell these kids now that
13:47are in the streets,
13:48it's not necessarily hanging around with the right people or doing the right thing?
13:52Listen to my mom.
13:53Yes.
13:54Nah, for real.
13:55Nah, for real.
13:56Listen, I know it's so simple and so normal, but it's real.
14:00Because growing up, my mom used to be like, man, that ain't your friend.
14:03Why is he over here?
14:04I'd be like, mama, you tripping.
14:05Nah, he's my friend.
14:07Next thing you know, you know, he's nowhere near to be found.
14:10You know what I mean?
14:10He's not supporting me, not doing none of that.
14:12So I really wish I should have listened to my mom.
14:14Like, my mom gave me so much gems, so much jewels growing up that I never took advantage of it
14:19until I came home.
14:21You know what I mean?
14:22Now, I got a question.
14:23Did she peep Booker T's game before you noticed it fully?
14:27Hell yeah.
14:27Yeah, mom always knew.
14:29Yeah.
14:30Always knew, man.
14:30The intuition.
14:31Mom, like, hold on.
14:32You got to watch him, son.
14:33I know he's taking care of you.
14:35I know he's, you know, he's putting food on the table and everything.
14:38But sometimes looks could be very deceiving.
14:41And she, you know, my mom, she can see through all that.
14:43She can see through all that.
14:45And this is my mom.
14:46Let me tell y'all something, man.
14:47My mom, she's been on this path before.
14:50She already ran around the world already.
14:53So she knows what comes with this business.
14:55Right.
14:55So I'll be a fool to not listen to her.
14:58So now she on her second journey.
15:00She on her second marathon.
15:01And the difference between the first marathon and the second one, she's with me every step of the way.
15:06Love that.
15:07You know what I mean?
15:07So I'm just blessed, though.
15:08Hello.
15:09Shout out to Mama Zilla.
15:10Happy Monday Day.
15:10Shout out to Mama Zilla.
15:11I'm the best mother in the world.
15:13Perfect message for Mother's Day.
15:14The best mom ain't the world.
15:15Yes.
15:16Now, you know, they say, like, people in radio, we say, like, radio is closed, right?
15:20If you're not already in it, it's hard to just, like, start in it without knowing somebody.
15:25Right.
15:26Would you say that's the same for wrestling?
15:27Or could you just be a kid coming off the street that's a great athlete?
15:31If you find the right, like, promoter and stuff, can you make it to the big levels?
15:35Yeah.
15:36Yeah.
15:36I mean, me, I did six years in prison.
15:39Right.
15:40I came home and I was like, man, okay, nobody's hired me, then I need to figure it out.
15:45And then when I came with the idea of starting wrestling, I had it in my mind.
15:49Okay, if I start this, I'm going to finish this.
15:52I'm going to make this work.
15:53So I really just believe in your mindset.
15:55It doesn't matter where you're at.
15:56It doesn't matter the environment you're at.
15:58I think it's more of your mindset and how you view things and how you view this world.
16:02And I think it's about just showing love.
16:05And I think another thing is just doing the right stuff when no one's looking.
16:09You know, and I think all that is going to, like, you know, it's going to come back.
16:12And that's what I've been doing since I came home.
16:14I've just been showing love.
16:16I've been, you know, I've been balancing out everything.
16:19And that's why God's been blessing me.
16:21Gotcha.
16:21I want to talk a little bit more about wrestling.
16:23I think I answered the question.
16:24I don't know.
16:25No, no, no.
16:26You did.
16:26You did.
16:27I'm forgetting.
16:28Not my bad.
16:30Listen, they be sleep on a lot of dudes who have gone to prison and got out because you
16:35guys are so intelligent.
16:37Like, a lot of you guys are.
16:38Yeah.
16:39Like, you know, Nino Breeze from St. Pete, just, like, talking to him about things.
16:43And just, you speak so eloquently and stuff.
16:46You took courses in college.
16:47You took college courses in prison.
16:49I did.
16:49I got my business marketing.
16:50I got my associate's degree in there.
16:52And I got my GED in there.
16:53I got a couple of OSHA degrees in there.
16:55And, uh, yeah.
16:57Gotcha.
16:57Damn.
16:58Were there talent shows at the prison you were at?
17:01Uh, yeah, but you ain't want to be part of the talent shows.
17:06You ain't want to be part of the talent shows at the prison I was at.
17:10All right.
17:11Come on.
17:13All right.
17:14Let's get into wrestling real quick because you got a lot of gold on you.
17:18A lot of gold.
17:19Right?
17:19But I want to ask you, like, if there's ever a dream match you could have somebody in the
17:25wrestling world.
17:25It could be somebody in your family in the wrestling world.
17:28Who would be your dream match?
17:29Who would you go up against?
17:30Man, I got every day, Oose.
17:33The answer changes.
17:34I got you.
17:35Today.
17:36Today.
17:36I would love, I would love, I would love for the Hardys to double back to WWE.
17:42And give me that one match with the Hardys versus me and Jacob.
17:48You and Jacob?
17:49Of course.
17:50Hell yeah.
17:50Versus me and Jacob.
17:51I would, I would love for that to happen.
17:54If that doesn't happen, I would love to be Jeff Hardy's last match.
17:57Oh, hell yeah.
17:58And then I let him pick whatever match he wants to do.
18:01You know.
18:02He's probably going to pick ladders.
18:04Yeah, this is my heart.
18:06TLC match.
18:07I could see that going down.
18:08Yeah, yeah.
18:08TLC's cool.
18:09TLC or Samoan strap match.
18:10That would be dope.
18:11You could do that too.
18:12Who's in your Mount Rushmore of wrestlers?
18:14Because, you know, everybody's talking about it nowadays.
18:17I see everybody putting it in different renditions.
18:19Who's in your...
18:20My Mount Rushmore changes on a daily because my studies.
18:24I study, you know, I have an era where I like certain wrestlers.
18:28And then I like these group of wrestlers.
18:30Right now, I'm going with, how many?
18:33Four or five?
18:33Four.
18:34Four.
18:34I'll go with Eddie Guerrero.
18:36Okay.
18:36I will go with Dusty Rhodes.
18:38There we go.
18:39I will go with The Rock.
18:43And, man, I don't even want to say his name, but I'm going to say it.
18:48Booker T, man.
18:49Oh, damn.
18:51See?
18:52The hate is real.
18:54See, but the hate...
18:54I'm a real one, bro.
18:55I'm not going to say it.
18:56The hate is real, but you...
18:58Real recognize real though.
18:59Come on.
19:00All right.
19:00You don't like him?
19:01Well, real recognize fake.
19:05Because it's like, you can judge.
19:06Like, there's a lot of people that I don't like personally, but I'm not going to hate
19:11and say they're not great at what they do and what they've contributed to, you know,
19:15the industry.
19:16So, I feel you on that though.
19:17But that's real.
19:18Yeah.
19:18That's real.
19:19How's the family?
19:20You got a huge family.
19:21I remember Roman the other day on Raw saying he was talking about 116 kids or something like
19:27that.
19:28170 kids?
19:29170 kids.
19:30Yeah.
19:30Y'all got a big ass family?
19:32I don't know why he said that.
19:33It's really more than that.
19:34Really?
19:34That's probably the first number he thought in his head and he said it.
19:38You know, it's a promo.
19:38So, everything's off the top.
19:40So, I want to talk about like what the family reunions are like.
19:44Like, how's Thanksgiving?
19:45Like, is everybody like going after each other?
19:48Like, how is that family dynamic?
19:49Man, when it comes to Thanksgiving, nah, there's not that much fighting going on as far as the
19:56last Thanksgiving.
19:57The only bad, bad thing, you know, especially when it comes to Samoans, man, we don't play
20:03about our food.
20:04You mess up, man.
20:06You mess up.
20:07In our family, you just don't eat.
20:09You get skipped out.
20:11So, when they going around, you know, they giving food on us and they see you, they going
20:16to skip you.
20:17So, you're going to know who in trouble.
20:19Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:20So, you know, the family, man, it's a lot of chaos, man.
20:23You know, what family doesn't have chaos?
20:26What family is just always not fighting and, you know, doing all this other stuff and drama
20:32and all that.
20:33So, it's normal, man.
20:34It's just, it sucks because, you know, in this business, you have to, like, thrive off
20:41that.
20:42You got to thrive off that.
20:43You got to see what works and what doesn't work.
20:46Gotcha.
20:47And I think just with right now, man, it's not even about the titles or none of that
20:51with us, with our family.
20:52It's about our culture.
20:53Gotcha.
20:54So, that's what's putting us over.
20:55It's about our culture and, you know, how we treat people and how we carry ourselves and
20:59how we present ourselves, too.
21:01And I think that's the main thing with our family.
21:03Samoans are peaceful people.
21:05And, you know, the things that you study.
21:07You talking about that?
21:07Yeah, for real.
21:08Have you seen the Hockers?
21:10Mamazilla.
21:10Have you seen the Hockers?
21:12Mamazilla.
21:16Mamazilla.
21:17You know it.
21:18You know it.
21:18I've seen the Hockers.
21:19I've seen it.
21:20You find out who's got, like, 10% Samoans.
21:22All that.
21:23Oh, my God.
21:2410% Samoans.
21:24How do you get there?
21:26I know all that.
21:28Come on.
21:29I'm in my bag.
21:30I don't want no Samoans.
21:31Warriors.
21:32They're called warriors for a reason.
21:33Yes, but I feel like they only go get on you if you do something to them.
21:38Like, they don't provoke.
21:40I think what you meant are Samoans are very respectful people.
21:44Respectful people.
21:44Okay, respectful people.
21:46Now, do you guys have, like, actual family reunions like black people do?
21:51Wow, that's a funny-ass question.
21:55Honestly, I don't know.
21:56It's probably the same, but...
21:58You do Mamazilla and Shake Yourself?
22:00Hey, yes.
22:00No, we got a lot of food.
22:02You know, I don't know.
22:03I know you guys got a lot of food, but ours is OD to it.
22:07You get shirts made and everything?
22:08We get everything.
22:09Okay, okay.
22:11We do the face paint.
22:12You know, you got a couple cousins over there doing each other's hairs and stuff and all that.
22:16So, yeah, it be a lot.
22:18There's a lot of similarities, too, you know, as far as with our culture.
22:21You know what I mean?
22:21That's another time we can talk about that.
22:25Yeah, the list is long.
22:27Well, I definitely want to pull up on you guys at the Essence Fest.
22:30That's going to be a big one.
22:31Fourth of July weekend.
22:32Fourth of July, man.
22:33Fourth rope.
22:33We're going to be down there in New Orleans, Louisiana.
22:36It's going to be my first time wrestling in Louisiana, too.
22:39So, it's monumental for me.
22:42Gotcha.
22:42And, man, he's moving up fast.
22:44COVID just, like, happened.
22:46You know, that's crazy.
22:48So, congratulations to you.
22:50So, actually, funny, the last time you were here, I had a belt over here, and you were looking at
22:55my belt.
22:56Now you got two belts, and now I'm over here looking at yours just to see the growth in the
23:01last couple of years.
23:02Crazy.
23:03What do you think is your next step?
23:05Like, what do you think is the next big thing?
23:06What's your next goal?
23:07What's next?
23:09Collecting more gold.
23:12But, no, on the real, I think it's just me expanding my brand outside the ring because the wrestling fans,
23:18man, they're always going to be there.
23:19So, my goal, really not me and my team.
23:22Our goal is to captivate fans that never had their eyes on our product.
23:28And how can I captivate their attention and keep them there for a while?
23:31And not only that, get the fans that used to watch wrestling stop watching wrestling to get them to rewatch
23:36it again.
23:37Gotcha.
23:37Because those, that group of demographic, that's the one I want because that was my generation of growing up, the
23:44ruthless aggression era, all that.
23:46Oh, yeah.
23:46Because I felt like.
23:47Attitude era.
23:48Yeah, because I feel like after that, it kind of like, you know, died down, and from 2012, I stopped
23:53watching it.
23:54Really, 2011, I stopped watching it.
23:56And then, obviously, I got back into it because I'm in it now.
24:00Right.
24:00You know, so.
24:01And now it's everywhere.
24:02It's on ESPN, like wrestling.
24:04Yeah, I was just working out at the gym the other day, and I seen Jacob on ESPN.
24:08That made me really emotional.
24:10I was like, okay, shout out to Big Bruh.
24:12Hell, yeah.
24:12All right.
24:13You talk about Jacob.
24:13I want to give you a couple of categories.
24:15I want you to tell me who you think in the family is the best at that category.
24:20Okay.
24:21We're going to call this the all gas, no brace.
24:23All gas, no brace.
24:25Yada-da-da-da-dee.
24:26Yada-da-da-dee.
24:26Yada-da-da-dee.
24:27Yada-da-da-da-dee.
24:27Hey, say it.
24:29All right, so who would you say is the best on the mic?
24:34Best on the mic in our whole family?
24:36In your whole family?
24:37The Rock.
24:38The Rock?
24:38Definitely.
24:39The Rock.
24:39Right.
24:39But it's not going to be that long.
24:40Just give me a few more, you know, give me a few more, you know, years.
24:43I'll be up there with you.
24:44You'll be up there too?
24:45Of course.
24:45All right, best submission.
24:46Who's going to be submitting the best?
24:47I don't think we have no submissions.
24:49Nah.
24:49Right?
24:50I mean, I saw Jacob with the idea over there.
24:54Oos, let me go back.
24:55Yeah, we're going to go with the tongue and death grip.
24:57Well, I'll say that as far as, the reason why I said we don't have none is because I
25:01haven't seen one in a while.
25:02Yeah.
25:02So for Jacob to, you know, double back and bring that back.
25:04And bring that back, yeah.
25:05It was crazy.
25:06And then especially for that moment, it made sense.
25:09So I would say that, yeah, the tongue and death grip.
25:11What is that?
25:12Can you demonstrate that?
25:13Oh, the Roman guillotine too.
25:16Roman is nice with the guillotine.
25:17Well, he choked out Brock a few times.
25:19And he actually brought it back for WrestleMania.
25:21He did.
25:21Oh, dude, it's three fingers.
25:23I don't even know how you do it.
25:25And what is DDT?
25:26Oh, that's...
25:27Oh, okay, okay, okay.
25:28Not one of those.
25:29All right, all right.
25:29You just take your head.
25:30Yeah, right in the ground.
25:32All right, the best in the air.
25:33Who's got the best aerials?
25:35I'll go with Jacob Fatu.
25:36Jacob?
25:37Okay.
25:38By far.
25:40Who is the most manipulative?
25:43Come on, man.
25:45Come on.
25:45Come on.
25:48Oh, most manipulative, man.
25:50I'm going to go with Mr. Yeet Man.
25:52Oh, you went with Jay.
25:55Come on.
25:55I was going to go with...
25:56Yeah, we about to go crazy.
25:57We about to...
25:58Hold on.
25:59The Yeet Man.
26:00That's Roman right there.
26:01I'll go with Yeet Man, man.
26:03Okay.
26:03Over Roman.
26:04Yeet Man don't be...
26:05He don't know what side to take.
26:07Because I see he wants to take Jacob's side,
26:08and he wants to take Roman's side.
26:10So, I don't know, brother.
26:11I'm just on the outside looking in.
26:12But, yeah, I'll say Mr. Yeet Man.
26:14He need to come correct.
26:16He need to figure out what side he need to be on.
26:18Stop playing that bow side.
26:19All right.
26:19Because both sides get you a bow tie.
26:23All right.
26:24Who has...
26:24Y'all lie.
26:26Who's the most underrated in the family?
26:29Underrated?
26:30Mm-hmm.
26:31Underrated in the family.
26:33I would say Jacob Fatu's dad, Tunga Kid.
26:37Tunga Kid.
26:37Yeah, man.
26:38A lot of people don't know, man.
26:39He was the youngest ever to sell out matches.
26:42Nah, Tunga Kid.
26:43Oh, okay.
26:43His real name is Samuel, right, mom?
26:45Sam, yeah.
26:46Sam Fatu.
26:47But a lot of people don't know.
26:48He was the youngest ever, not just in our family and professional history, to sell out
26:52Madison Square Garden at 16 years old.
26:55Oh, yeah.
26:56See, I didn't even know that.
26:5716 against Roddy Piper.
26:58Did you know that?
26:59You ain't know that.
26:59That's fire.
27:00You ain't know that.
27:00Some history, too.
27:01We got history in there, too.
27:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:03So, I definitely would say the Tunga Kid for sure.
27:06Mm-hmm.
27:07And last but not least, when it's all said and done, who do you think is going to be the
27:12greatest in the family all around?
27:13The main one.
27:14Zilla Fatu.
27:15I'm right here.
27:16Live and direct.
27:16Talk your shit.
27:18No, for real.
27:19Talk your shit.
27:20Now, for real, though.
27:22No, I ain't playing.
27:25Now, I have a question.
27:28Do a lot of men have surgical bodies, or are they really working out?
27:33What does that mean?
27:34That means, like, the fake abs, where, like, the R.
27:38AI.
27:38AI.
27:39The AI.
27:40Are these guys really in the gym?
27:42The male BBLs.
27:43Come on.
27:43They call them the male BBLs.
27:44We got any BBL drizzies?
27:46Man, I don't know.
27:47Man, I can't speak for every other wrestler, but I know with me, nah, I work out.
27:50Like, I really, you know, with us Samoans, this is the thing, man, about us Samoans, man.
27:55It's so fast for us to get, you know, out of shape.
27:59But it's also fast for us to get in shape, you know, especially if you just dial in and
28:04lock in.
28:05Because with us, we have a lot of, like, high blood pressure, a lot of diabetes, a lot of,
28:09you know.
28:10So many similarities to the black community.
28:12Exactly.
28:12Exactly.
28:13So, you know, with me, I really, I'm very strict on my health.
28:17And I just started taking my health serious, too, for the past, like, six, seven months.
28:21Health is getting popping.
28:23I hear a lot of people saying that.
28:24It's wealth, girl.
28:25Health is wealth.
28:25What you mean?
28:26I got to stop drinking so much and stuff.
28:28Because, you know, that's really.
28:30Yeah, you definitely got to stop drinking.
28:31You got to stop smoking.
28:33You got to stop doing all the extra stuff.
28:35Damn, I can't be a wrestler then.
28:37I'm so sorry, man.
28:38I'm so sorry, man.
28:39Yeah, man.
28:39Man, everything, everything is on one side.
28:41We got to be healthy, brother.
28:42Got to stay healthy.
28:43Man, you cool as hell.
28:45Zillify, too.
28:45This was my first time sitting down and chopping it up with him.
28:48And you know the crazy part?
28:49I'm a girl.
28:50I didn't know much.
28:51But I like people where you can get to know their backstory.
28:54And now I feel like I know it all.
28:56When it comes to the family, I'm Uth.
28:59What do you call it?
29:00I'm Uth, too.
29:00You're an honorary Uth.
29:01I'm Uth.
29:01I'm an honorary Uth.
29:03So, let's go.
29:04Shout out, man.
29:05And I just want to say, man, I'm just proud of where you at and how far you
29:08come, and I know that you're going to be somewhere else in the next time I see you,
29:12you're going to be on a whole other stratosphere.
29:15And I can't wait to see your story unfold, bro.
29:17No, I appreciate that.
29:18Thank you guys for having me, too, man.
29:19This didn't even feel like no interview, man.
29:21It just felt like just three people chopping it up about wrestling.
29:24And I appreciate y'all's time, man.
29:25For real.
29:26I appreciate you.
29:27Shout out to Mama Zilla.
29:28Happy Mother's Day, girl.
29:29Happy Mother's Day to all my mamas out there.
29:32Hello.
29:33Make sure you guys like, comment, subscribe, and please don't forget, wash your ass.
29:39Hello.
29:40Hello.
29:42Zabs, Rich Ortiz, Zillow, Part 2.
29:45We out.
29:46We out.
29:46We out.
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