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00:11John Derrick Warboys, I'm arresting your suspicion of six counts of sexual assault between 2005 and 2008, but they won't
00:18be asking you to testify.
00:20I wanted to look the bastard in the eye and tell everybody what he did to me. I wanted to
00:25have my moment in court.
00:26Mr. Warboys handed you a glass of something bubbly, and you drank that too?
00:32Because he forced me to. He's like a professional con man.
00:36You continue to constitute a significant risk of serious harm. I therefore pass down on you a minimum custodial term
00:43of eight years.
00:46I was told that the Crown Prosecution Service had looked at all the evidence.
00:51No, I can tell you that the CPS did not review the evidence in your case.
00:55They lied to me.
00:56Why didn't she flag, Dave?
00:58Seems it wasn't ever recorded as a crime. It was only logged as a crime-related incident.
01:03You know, I've been looking into bringing a complaint against the police for the way they treated us.
01:06So you're asking, do I want to sue the police with you?
01:11My advice would be to pursue this under the Human Rights Act.
01:14The only problem is, is that it's never been done before.
01:17Eight years did spook me a bit.
01:19Yeah, he's not getting out.
01:20After eight years, he could apply for parole.
01:22In order to do that, he'd first have to admit to what he's done.
01:35So, this is where you'll be working.
01:37Everybody!
01:39This is Carrie Simmons, who's joining the comms team today.
01:42Hey.
01:43Hi.
01:43Oh, it's actually, it's Simon's.
01:46Oh, sorry.
01:47And this is Cherry, your new neighbour.
01:50Hi.
01:51I'll leave you to it.
01:52Maybe.
02:08Yes.
02:11Carrie...
02:11Sorry?
02:12I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, but aren't you the girl who was a victim if
02:17that black cab guy?
02:19The rapist.
02:23not sure about victim but um yes i did do some interviews about it i understand a lot of women
02:30came forward after that but you have sort of put yourself out there now it's like that girl
02:38oh well i i learned a lot from that experience about how you know the media operates so
02:48hopefully i'm a bit savvier now
03:07so i printed you both a document of all the materials we've received from the met and as
03:12predicted they were mightily pissed off at having to hand it over and they even said that they had
03:17no desire in the current financial climate to spend disproportionate sums defending a claim that
03:23was many years out of date and legally had no prospect of success well they can fuck right off
03:31i couldn't have said it any better myself okay so as predicted the ipcc investigations into both
03:39of your cases find the complaints are not substantiated and the most serious disciplinary
03:43action that they recommended was there a few written warnings what about telling me that the cps had
03:51reviewed my case when it hadn't a genuine mistake okay and what about not telling me that they found
04:00the drugs that he used to sedate me in my bloodstream they actually do find that largely substantiated but
04:05they they do want to note that the investigating officer at the time had um a heavy workload what we
04:13now know that they didn't search war boy's house when he was first arrested i was told that they did
04:18and
04:18that they didn't find anything incriminating but actually the most incredible revelation
04:23is of the cctv footage of you leaving the club that night
04:29they said that there was no sign of me on the footage that's because they were looking at the
04:33wrong night the 27th not the 26th if they had the correct date they would have seen that you left
04:40the club at 2am and they would have known that war boys was lying when he said he picked you
04:44up at 3 50.
04:46the initial investigation didn't even analyze your mobile phone data which would have confirmed when you
04:51got into his cab and where he took you it's like a joke i'm guessing it doesn't get any funnier
04:59for me
05:00no because almost all the allegations in your case they say are not proven you saying that you weren't
05:05believed not proven being told not to show emotion in your interview well dc stevens even denies ever
05:10saying that to you so it's your word against his the only concession is that they agree that the guy
05:16living
05:17in your old flat billy houghton should have been interviewed and to cap it all off they've released
05:23a statement saying that they have improved training and changed procedures so that none of this will
05:29ever happen again it's what they always do so what do we do because to be honest this is only
05:36making me
05:36even more determined yeah same we need somebody who's going to take this on for us in court
05:41and i have somebody in mind a really top barrister
05:49i've met this guy tell me more it was an arranged thing um my mom insisted on it you know
06:00i actually
06:00think she would have kicked me out onto the street if i hadn't agreed to it what's his name what's
06:05he like
06:05he's quite nice actually i am good muslim boy he wore cream chinos good looking
06:21not bad you gonna see him again
06:27i don't know
06:31i just keep thinking
06:35what's the point
06:37i haven't even told my family about what happened to me i certainly i couldn't tell him
06:48it's like
06:51i feel like
06:55i feel like nobody would want me
06:58if they knew
07:01you know at some point you're gonna have to talk about it and not just with me
07:08you know i tried that with gav at first keeping it all buried worrying about what you think of me
07:16it's exhausting
07:18no i couldn't do it anymore
07:21i realized i had to come to terms with what happened to me and so i thought
07:24fuck it i'm gonna tell you whether you want to hear it or not for my sake
07:31and gav's not perfect i'm sure he'd say i'm not easy to live with either but
07:38but to be fair since i told him he's been nothing but supportive
07:46so maybe give cream chinos a chance
07:54you see the problem i've got with this program you're talking about is i would have to tell the
07:59truth i can't just sit here and tell you lies sir the last thing we want in a treatment program
08:05is
08:06for you to lie
08:09it's just not in me
08:11so why don't we begin with you talking about the offenses for which you've been convicted
08:15well that's the problem because i didn't do anything
08:18i'm an innocent man
08:20and that's your position
08:22as far as i'm concerned any encounters were consensual it was all just a bit of harmless fun
08:28and that's for drugging them it's that's complete nonsense
08:34you see i shouldn't be in here and that's the truth
08:40i know you no longer call yourself john war boys you know call yourself john radford why is that
08:47it's very simple
08:50the name war boys is dirt in it because of what those women said about me because of their false
08:56accusations i can't even call myself by my own name anymore
09:17it's really late why not give it a rest and pick up again tomorrow hey that police officer who
09:22first looked into my case dc stevens i kept asking him to talk to billy houghton the guy that lived
09:27in
09:27my old flat because he saw war boys that night steven says here that i was reluctant for him to
09:32talk to billy
09:33what an arsehole that's such absolute bollocks it says here he has never had any specialist training for
09:41investigations into rape or sexual assault and in fact no training at all since 1989
09:49i've seen them on it don't be too long
10:05ladies can i introduce you to philipa kaufman
10:11philipa this is sarah and this is layla very pleased to meet you hi welcome now we're about to go
10:17in with
10:18the police's lawyers for what's called a structured settlement discussion basically can we resolve
10:23this without going to court is there a non-financial remedy we can explore such as a public apology to
10:28you can i just ask is that a possibility a public apology from them not accounts chance in hell i'm
10:33afraid but it may help our case later on if we can at least say we tried right ladies follow
10:41me
10:51i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid
10:5229 women were attacked by war boys after he attacked me before he was finally arrested
11:0129
11:03those are all individual lives messed up that didn't need to be
11:10and those are just the women that we know about i mean they're almost certainly more who
11:16never reported what happened to them i was disbelieved and humiliated and i don't believe the
11:23police have sufficiently been held to account i think the impact of what the police did to me
11:28was worse than the actual rape itself like layla i continue to live with a sense of guilt for all
11:35the
11:35women that came after me even though i know it's not my fault i asked myself could i have done
11:41more
11:41to stop him i'm shocked that you won't just admit liability the fact that you are fighting this
11:51makes me feel like you still don't believe me the police's position is that whilst we are of course
11:59sympathetic to the undoubted trauma you've both suffered we do not admit any liability on the part
12:06the metropolitan police we believe the investigation into the crimes of john warboys was reasonable
12:12ultimately successful successful it took you five years to work out these attacks were linked
12:20year after year you've left to roam the streets and attack other women he should have been locked up
12:30what we would like to do however is to invite you both to attend a police training program present your
12:36experiences to the attendees the hope is that this would be educational and beneficial to both sides
12:45right anyway down here ladies harriet thank you
12:58okay now you can talk they've got two hopes of us talking to this load of trainee policemen about what
13:03happened to us bob hope but no hope and you can tell them that from me what a patronizing load
13:08of all
13:08bullshit ladies i think we're gonna get along just fine
14:00so we won't have to give an account of himself in court
14:04i'm sorry
14:16nbv told us that even after she'd been sick in the toilet she still carried on drinking
14:22did this have uh an impact on your assessment of nbv the cctv footage of her falling over at the
14:30campus was
14:31entirely consistent with the actions of someone who had had too much to drink that night
14:35i thought the whole thing was odd i thought it was odd that an educated girl would accept a drink
14:42from a stranger in those circumstances dsd told us she had taken some cocaine with her friends and
14:48this showed up subsequently in her blood tests had she also drunk alcohol that evening before getting
14:55into more boys cab well her friends told us they put her into the cab after their night out because
15:00she was so out of it my conclusion was that dsd had not sustained any specific psychiatric injury as
15:09a consequence of the rape she had however suffered a depressive episode as a consequence of how she'd been
15:15dealt with by the police well following the assault nbv developed symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder
15:23including nightmares intrusive imagery flashbacks avoidance anxiety and depression poor concentration
15:31and social withdrawal she still suffers from moderate to severe symptoms she can be tearful
15:38and experiences mood swings and she suffers from continuing sexual aversion and a lack of sexual
15:53enjoyment are you aware inspector underwood of a guide which outlines the met standard operating procedures
16:00for investigative techniques in rape and sexual assault cases i am aware of it yes it lays out detailed
16:09steps and considerations to be followed from a starting point of treating the victim's account as
16:16truthful does it not i don't know why not may i ask i just can't recall it in any detail
16:25as a member
16:26of one of the met's sapphire teams which are specialist rape and sexual assault investigation units i find
16:34that quite an extraordinary thing for you to say in my opinion it's not something i consider practical
16:40to apply to each and every case to this case i think these policies are fine in theory but they're
16:50not
16:50always applicable to day-to-day policing then why have they been set out by the met as their guidelines
16:58i think they have been created purely to protect the police from legal challenges
17:05if a case is not classified as a serious sexual assault then details of the investigation are not
17:10entered into the criminal intelligence computer database are they
17:16no meaning no closing report would need to be done would it no is that a good thing honestly
17:24an opportunity to not have to do one would be taken gladly
17:28was there a drive from your superiors at borough management to disprove allegations of rape and
17:34sexual assault
17:37yes why was that because if an allegation can be legally disproved then it would improve detection
17:44rates so junior officers were effectively encouraged not to pursue allegations of rape
17:49and sexual assault and instead to focus on other crimes such as burglary which were easier to clear up
17:54is that right broadly speaking yes coming now dc coldom specifically to the case nbv even though
18:04her case bore all the hallmarks of a drug facilitated sexual assault she was not treated as such was she
18:09personally i believed her account but i knew there was no prospect of the case being reopened once the
18:15forensic and toxicology results had come back as inconclusive even though there were still many
18:19important leads still to be followed up yes so under pressure from on high her case was not recorded
18:27as a serious sexual assault supervision from more senior officers did not occur and her case was not
18:32entered into the databases no and the case was cleared up in three months no case closure report
18:40no detailed report entered into the system and the borough's clear-up rate was thereby improved since the
18:45case was not left as unsolved like i say that that was the situation at the time
19:03thanks i can't believe you're still waiting on the judgment oh this one'll be born before we hear
19:09so how's life then i'll be honest things are not great with gav hmm it's me it's pushed me away
19:17i know
19:17i do just find it so hard to really let go emotionally you know he's always been pretty
19:25understanding though isn't he yeah and he still is sexy shit i hate being naked
19:35i actually hate opening my fucking legs to be honest with you
19:40must be like going to bed with a slab of marble
19:43at least he got you pregnant yeah i got a bit drunk that night which helped
19:48let's just say it wasn't entirely planned
20:16thank you
20:19He with the kings of glory
20:24Shall ring eternally
20:29Let us pray.
20:33Lord, comfort and heal all those who suffer in body, mind or spirit.
20:38Give them courage and hope in their troubles
20:40and bring them joy and salvation.
20:43In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
20:46That those who face difficult times will find the strength to prevail.
20:50In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
20:54For the grace this week to live by faith in every circumstance of life.
20:59In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
21:07Hello. Hello, Sarah.
21:10Hi.
21:11Hey, what's happening?
21:13I've just got the phone to Harriet.
21:14Yeah, the judge said there was clear evidence that I had suffered significant harm over a long period and with
21:22you.
21:23But for the failures of the police, you wouldn't have been raped at all.
21:30We won.
21:31No way.
21:32We won.
21:34And they've awarded me $22,000 and you $19,000.
21:40Fuck.
21:41I'm like, I'm...
21:44I can't, I'm...
21:45Harriet said she saw a little appeal, but...
21:48We should enjoy today.
21:53I'm glad you picked up.
21:54So, tell me.
21:57Did he ask the question?
21:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:00Yeah, I said yeah.
22:02Leila.
22:03I was so happy for you.
22:05Yeah, Mom and Dad are throwing us a party.
22:07It's...
22:08All right.
22:09Well, go enjoy it, lovely.
22:11We'll go for a coffee soon.
22:13Yeah.
22:14Yeah, and I can meet your new baby.
22:15Yeah.
22:16All right, I'll see you soon, yeah?
22:18Okay, see you soon.
22:32There you are.
22:35You okay?
22:38The happy twos.
22:44They're all waiting in the garden.
22:47Okay.
22:50Just one sec.
22:51Mm-hmm.
23:11I love you.
23:16I love you.
23:39I am Dr. Crisati,
23:42a consultant, clinical and forensic psychologist,
23:45and I'm here, Mr. Radford,
23:48to review your progress.
23:51Okay.
23:58Well, I told the other psychologist
24:00that I met recently that...
24:03the time had come for me to change my stance.
24:07I've withdrawn my application
24:09with the Criminal Cases Review Commission
24:11to overturn my convictions,
24:12and I've decided to accept
24:14full responsibility for all my offences.
24:18Can I ask what has brought about
24:20this change of heart?
24:23Him?
24:26Up there.
24:27The Lord Jesus Christ,
24:29he has shown me the way.
24:34I felt so guilty,
24:36I didn't know who to speak to.
24:39And then I found religion,
24:40and I decided that, you know,
24:42if I'm going to follow the Lord,
24:43I've got to be honest
24:44and admit to what I've done.
24:49Let's talk about what happened.
25:02I always felt guilty about my offences.
25:06Yeah, but to begin with,
25:07I maintained some hope
25:09that my convictions would be overturned
25:10and I might be released.
25:14But I can see now
25:15that this is unrealistic,
25:16and so I've decided to use this
25:20as a motivation for me
25:21to take responsibility
25:23for what I've done.
25:28You know,
25:28to let these women know
25:29how sorry I am.
25:35And to be honest, you know,
25:40and talk about everything.
25:47I hope that they will be okay
25:49and get on with their lives.
25:51I really do.
25:54I'm sorry, can I get a tissue?
25:59Sorry.
26:02You think you're ready
26:03to start
26:04the Sexual Offenders Treatment Program?
26:09That's what he's telling me.
26:15I'm sorry.
26:20I'm sorry.
26:21I'm sorry.
26:24I'm sorry.
26:25I'm sorry.
26:27I'm sorry.
26:30How are you both?
26:31We get them out of sleep,
26:33but yeah.
26:34We're good.
26:35I'm going to make some tea.
26:38Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
26:43House is looking smart.
26:48I'm sorry.
26:49What?
26:49I'm sorry.
26:49Shall I hold her?
26:52Can I?
27:06She's so beautiful.
27:12You know, I only ever wanted the best for you.
27:16You know that?
27:19I know. I know.
27:22Adam is a good man.
27:26Yeah.
27:30He is.
27:48You got knocked back then?
27:50On your parole.
27:57I told him about finding God.
28:01I put my hands up to it all.
28:03I told him how remorseful I am.
28:06That will only get you so far, mate.
28:09In my experience, you need to give him a reason.
28:12What do you mean?
28:14The reason why you started doing what you were doing in the first place.
28:17You can't do that.
28:19They're never going to believe that you know how to stop.
28:25She was an old girlfriend, you know. I don't really want to talk about her.
28:29I mean, can I talk about someone completely innocent?
28:34Whoever this person is, they can be anonymised in any reports.
28:42Well, she left me.
28:44When was this?
28:46It was about summer's time, 2005.
28:52And I was really cut up about it.
28:54And then we were sort of on off and...
28:57And then I remember about a year later, she phoned me and asked me to come and pick her up
29:03and take her back to mine.
29:04And I was excited about this.
29:06But when I got to this bar, she was absolutely hammered.
29:10And totally drunk.
29:13All I could do was take her home to her mum's.
29:16And I was on my own again.
29:19Absolutely furious.
29:31That night I went looking for someone.
29:35That would have been the first one.
29:38That was around...
29:40September, October 2006.
29:46And then it just grew from there.
29:48The truth was, I only gave them half a tablet because I didn't want to do them too much harm.
29:55And then when they were out of it, I'd just...
30:01Touch their leg or look up their skirts.
30:04I sort of...
30:07Played with myself.
30:08I only actually put my penis inside one of them.
30:15That's all.
30:15For maybe...
30:19Four seconds.
30:21I mean, I don't blame her.
30:23My ex, you know.
30:24I take full responsibility for me actions.
30:31I can see now that that was the trigger.
30:38I don't blame her.
30:39Do you want cereal or toast?
30:41Uh...
30:42Toast, please.
30:44There you go.
30:45You take that.
30:47Hey!
30:47Hey!
30:48Oh no!
30:49I'm still spoiling it!
30:51Hey!
30:53No problem.
30:55No problem.
30:57Good.
30:57Dance.
30:58Good job.
30:58Can you take over, Zach?
30:59Dance before you eat.
31:02Now it's nice.
31:19It can't be true.
31:20It's the same as before.
31:22We just find out about it from the telly.
31:23They all said they were confident they wouldn't get out of prison.
31:26It's bullshit.
31:28It's just motherfucking bullshit.
31:31I can't think he's attacked over a hundred women.
31:34How can anyone think it's safe to let him back out on the streets?
31:39Because we are not allowed to know the reasoning,
31:42the biggest problem we have is trying to understand why they approved this.
31:46Because they live on Mars?
31:48But why weren't we even consulted?
31:51Because the system doesn't take into account the views of the victim.
31:54When these things are decided, the criminal gets a place at the table,
31:58the parole board, the Ministry of Justice do too,
32:00but the views of the victim are not even considered.
32:03So we just have to stand by and watch once they let him out?
32:05Well, no.
32:06We have to bring pressure on David Gawke, the Justice Secretary.
32:10We'll get him to order a judicial review of the decision
32:13on the grounds that it was legally irrational to release War Boys.
32:16And we have to move fast.
32:18One thing we have been able to find out is that, as late as 2015,
32:23he was denied transfer from a high-security prison
32:26to a lower-security open prison on the grounds that he posed an unacceptable risk.
32:30Yet, two years later, they're saying he's suitable for pro...
32:33That sounds pretty irrational to me.
32:37The thought of him being released in just a few weeks is...
32:45It's terrifying.
32:46Listen to me.
32:48We are going to fight.
32:50To stop that from happening, we are going to scrap and we are going to fight.
32:54We've got to go.
32:56Leila? No, they'll be wondering where I am.
33:00I'll go after her and make sure she's all right.
33:06But this is a fucking disgrace.
33:14You know, I've heard there's a lot of people who are very unhappy with today's decision.
33:19Whispers that Labour and the Lib Dems might even call for an inquiry.
33:23Well, that will certainly shove it under David Gawkes Hooter.
33:26We need to keep it there.
33:28We need to make a lot of noise.
33:30And quickly.
33:31Well, I had a very interesting phone call from Carrie Simons this afternoon.
33:36She gave evidence of the original trial?
33:38Yes, I remember her.
33:39Well, now she works for the Conservative Party press office.
33:43And she phoned to say how angry she was and to offer her services.
33:48Oh, yeah.
33:49Yeah, so I think she'd be very useful in lobbying David Gawkes.
33:55Warboys never once showed remorse.
33:58He described his behaviour as banter and insisted that the women accusing him of rape, who took to the stand
34:07in tears, shattered by the experience, had in fact wanted to have sex with him.
34:13The decision to free him was made a few months ago by a parole board panel.
34:18We don't know who made up this panel, and we don't know how and why they came to this decision.
34:25Hi, David.
34:27Just two minutes once you're done.
34:29Oh, I'll catch you.
34:31I just wondered if you might want to read this op-ed piece that I've written.
34:35What's it about?
34:36Bill Warboys parole board decision.
34:38You know that decision was based on the reports from several psychologists.
34:42I think he's pulled the wool over their eyes.
34:47You might not know this, but as a young woman, I was drugged by him in the back of his
34:51taxi.
34:52And I just thought, full disclosure, as Justice Secretary, you should know what I've said here.
34:58Okay. I'll have a read.
35:11Moving down to Belmarsh then, John.
35:15Not long to go now, is it?
35:17From there, by the grace of God, I'll be released.
35:25Free men.
35:38I would just like to say that I was just as surprised as you all probably were when I was
35:44asked to take this job on, but I was pleasantly surprised.
35:48I promise to give it my all.
35:56Congratulations.
35:58Youngest ever head of comms.
36:01You've done so well.
36:05I do have just a small fly I must put in the ointment though.
36:09David Gork told me that the MOJ will not be pursuing a judicial review of that parole board decision on
36:15John Warboys.
36:16What? Why not?
36:17He said something about legal advice.
36:19But then he's gonna get out.
36:21Fuck!
36:22Shit!
36:23Carrie.
36:25I'm telling you this as a friend.
36:27Okay?
36:27But people have been saying you've been a bit distracted lately.
36:30Well then they can mind their own business.
36:32Come on.
36:33I'm just saying don't let this stuff get in the way of what's really important.
36:36Okay?
36:37And why you're actually here.
36:41Your career is taking off, Carrie.
36:43Don't blow it now.
36:47I really thought David fucking Gork would get behind us.
36:49It's so disappointing.
36:52My guess is he's looked at all of this and he's thinking his department doesn't come out of it smelling
36:56of roses.
36:57So what can we do now?
36:58We can push for a review of the decision on behalf of Sarah and Layla.
37:02Can we do that?
37:03I'm not sure private individuals will have the legal standing but we can certainly give it a try.
37:07Money is going to be a problem though.
37:09The rules have changed since the human rights case.
37:11It's now no longer possible to take out insurance against losing.
37:14Meaning that Sarah and Layla would be personally responsible for the parole board's legal costs if we lost.
37:19Precisely.
37:20We need to raise money fast.
37:22But by going against the government you could be risking your career.
37:27I'm on it.
37:29Yes, it is a letter that I've been asking London MPs to sign.
37:33A lot of them already have.
37:34Protesting against the parole board's decision.
37:37The women he attacked are fighting to have his parole overturned and maybe this is something that your paper could
37:44take a more detailed look at.
37:45And hey, if you do decide to print, don't forget to include the details of the crowdjustice link at the
37:51bottom of your story.
37:52Okay, well I'll talk to my editor and we'll keep in touch, alright?
37:55We're still being contacted by women who say that they are victims of war boys.
37:59In the last few days I spoke to a woman in Bournemouth who's convinced that eventually more victims will come
38:04forward from that area because he also drove his cab down there.
38:07How about the appeal for donations to help with the legal support?
38:10Well, we've been completely overwhelmed by the level of support that we've received since opening our crowdjustice page.
38:17The donations have been pouring in, for which we are incredibly grateful.
38:33Rehabilitated?
38:34He denied everything until nine months before the first time he could apply for parole.
38:38Hmm, and then he found God.
38:40Right. Conveniently. Just in time for parole he saw the light.
38:45Only gave half a Tamazabam.
38:48Says he only raped one woman.
38:51Penis inside vagina for four seconds.
38:54Wait a minute. Yes, here.
38:57Says he only started offending in 2006 after the breakup with his girlfriend.
39:04Yes, I'm just saying that.
39:05Oh, thank you, Lord.
39:20Go on, you two. Mama's very late.
39:22Keep going!
39:24Going to be really good for Conor, okay?
39:26Right, hold the bell, wait there.
39:28Okay.
39:32There he is.
39:34It's exciting.
39:38Be good.
39:39Alright, guys. Go on, run up. There's cakes up there.
39:42Bye!
39:44Thanks so much for doing this.
39:46I knew it would happen on half-term.
39:48Jack's with his mate, so...
39:49It's not a problem.
39:50You know I'm happy to help.
39:52How's things at home?
39:54Erm...
39:55Not great.
39:56Gab's actually moved out now, so...
39:58Okay.
39:59Sorry to hear.
40:03Anyway, I beg I go, or else I'll be late, but...
40:06Thanks again.
40:07I'll see you later.
40:08Alright, good luck.
40:14Hi.
40:16Hi, I'm running late. Are you nearly there yet?
40:19I'm sorry, I didn't get on the train.
40:23I'm not coming down.
40:25I just...
40:26I suddenly thought...
40:27The idea of seeing him again...
40:31I just can't do it.
40:32Yeah, I...
40:33I don't know how you can face going back to that horrible time, Sarah.
40:37Because I want to have my moment in court with him today.
40:40Sorry.
40:42I know I'm letting you down.
40:43No, you're not.
40:45Listen.
40:46If that's what you want to do, what you need to do...
40:49Fuck it.
40:49Fuck them.
40:50Whatever works.
40:52I am sorry.
40:55Stop apologising, okay?
40:57Okay, listen, I'm gonna have to go with us, I'll be late, but...
40:59I'll let you know how it goes, okay?
41:00Okay, thank you.
41:01Okay, bye-bye, bye-bye.
41:16Fuck it.
41:24I'll do this.
41:25Run the court to justice, please.
41:30Fuck it.
41:32Fuck it.
41:33Fuck it.
41:35Fuck it.
41:36Fuck it.
41:36Fuck it, fuck it.
41:36Fuck it.
41:37Fuck it.
42:02My Lords, this is a unique case.
42:05In which someone who has been granted his freedom has then had it taken away from him.
42:12If ever there was a case for the use of the judicial review jurisdiction to be exercised with the greatest
42:19care and anxious scrutiny, this is that case.
42:31We say that Mr. Warboys has been seriously minimizing the nature and extent of his offending and has been dishonestly
42:38manufacturing his explanation.
42:41Furthermore, we say the board has failed to take into account critical evidence, evidence which it was not in its
42:47discretion to ignore.
42:49Evidence which, if it was going to reach a lawful decision, it had to take into account.
42:55In the notes of the sessions attended with the psychologists, Mr. Warboys admits responsibility only for those offences for which
43:05he was convicted.
43:06A total of 19 offences carefully selected by the Crown Prosecution Service, as you can see from their statement, so
43:14as to not overload the indictment.
43:17These offences were against a total of 12 women, and Warboys says his offending began in September-October 2006.
43:29But let's look then at what evidence is out there, because that evidence paints a very, very different picture to
43:37the one presented by Mr. Warboys to the parole board.
43:41The police's conclusion, having investigated all of the offences that resulted in the charges brought against Mr. Warboys,
43:49is that he committed offences against a total of 105 women.
44:00We submit, this is very powerful evidence, that Mr. Warboys' offending was more extensive than anything he has admitted.
44:10And, crucially, we can see from the evidence given to the police by the witness, DSD,
44:18we can see that his offending went back to, at the very least, May 2003.
44:28That is more than three years before the date, he says, is when he began offending.
44:34Which blows out of the water the parole board's assessment that he has taken full responsibility for his offences,
44:41or that he has been open and honest in his account.
45:00He's going to say, is when he puts the police printer custody in several years before the caracter titular seat
45:15and that he has taken full responsibility for hisIRE names,
47:18You okay?
47:23There's something I've got to tell you.
48:17There's something I've got to tell you.
48:45There's something I've got to tell you.
48:46There's something I've got to tell you.
48:50There's something I've got to tell you.
48:54There's something I've got to tell you.
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