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Neither Tua Tagovailoa nor Michael Penix were featured on material promoting the Falcons' newly announced Week 9 game against the Bengals at Bernabeu Stadium in Madrid, Spain. Dukes and Bell talk about what it means and why it matters.
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00:00Mike, look, I am not going to try to make a big deal of this,
00:05but I just want to point something out.
00:07As you brought up last hour, and there was a leak from Cincinnati
00:11that the Falcons would be playing overseas in Madrid against Cincinnati.
00:14Now, that was not official.
00:16Now, it is.
00:18Okay?
00:18And again, let's give everybody the right info before we get into this
00:22because you're going, okay, we now know it's not the Chiefs.
00:25A lot of people thought it was.
00:26It's the Bengals headed to Madrid to play our Falcons week nine.
00:31What week is that, Mike?
00:32That is November 8th.
00:33And again, it's about the same time as last year we were over in Germany and Berlin.
00:36So November 8th is week nine.
00:38We don't know when our bye week is.
00:40You know, I hate when it comes early, but we'll see.
00:43And one thing is now we know the rest of our home schedule.
00:46And again, do not sell your tickets, but if you did, you'd make some money.
00:48Some heritage teams, the Bears, the Lions, 49ers, Ravens and Chiefs.
00:53That's a hell of a home schedule.
00:55In addition, of course, our regular NFC of South of Carolina, Tampa, you know,
00:59and the Saints.
01:01But that's a hell of a home schedule for season ticket holders.
01:03It really is.
01:04And by the way, you mentioned the 49ers.
01:06Just a quick note.
01:07That's the return of Kyle Shanahan and now Raheem Morris, who's his defensive coordinator.
01:12Right on.
01:12And they've got a good team.
01:13But all these teams Mike's talking about are going to be good.
01:16But let's talk about the elephant in the room, shall we?
01:19Falcons put out at the Falcons social media the picture of to promote when and where.
01:27This is going to be on NFL Network, obviously.
01:30And what this is going to look like as far as, you know, see you in Madrid, dirty birds.
01:35Like, cool.
01:36Right.
01:36Then I start looking at this picture.
01:38Oh, look, it's Jalen Walker on there.
01:40Okay, cool.
01:41Young star.
01:42Oh, no doubt.
01:43Oh, hey, there's Drake in the background of all these historic monuments and things that
01:48you can do in Madrid.
01:49Amazing park in the center of Madrid.
01:51And then right there in the front, it's Bijan Robinson.
01:54Bijan.
01:55Yeah.
01:55We love Bijan Robinson.
01:56Where's Panics?
01:57I'm sorry?
01:58Where's our quarterback?
02:01That is the problem.
02:03Aha.
02:04There is no quarterback on this picture.
02:06Now, I'm not telling you that Bijan Robinson is not a star on our team.
02:10That's a given.
02:10I'm not telling you.
02:11He's one of the biggest stars in the league.
02:12That Drake's not a star.
02:13Jalen Walker, high draft pick, Mike, promising future.
02:16You wouldn't put Pierce on because of the off-field stuff this year, so understandable.
02:20You know, so Jalen's obviously, that's an easy one.
02:22But Jalen, over your starting quarterback.
02:25Well, he's not been named our starting quarterback.
02:27And maybe that's why.
02:30Look, what I'm telling you is, when you see the Rams schedule release, it'll be Matthew
02:35Stafford on the front of it.
02:36When you see Detroit's schedule release, it's going to be Jared Goff.
02:40Go down the line.
02:41Even Dak Prescott will be in the front of their release when it's the Cowboys.
02:45Are you following me here in New England?
02:47There's Drake May.
02:48Just took him to the Super Bowl.
02:49He's going to be in the front.
02:51This is a quarterback league, and everybody promotes their quarterback, including Sam
02:56Donald going, I got one.
02:57He's going to have a big, fat ring on.
02:59Promoting Seattle's schedule.
03:00And Trevor Lawrence is going to go, ah, you thought I was a buster, but I'm not.
03:04I took my team to the playoffs.
03:06Guys, we could go on and on.
03:07Denver with Bo Nix, Mike.
03:09Baker Mayfield with Tampa.
03:11We don't have a guy?
03:12No.
03:12The Falcons guys, and before you immediately send a call, there you go again.
03:16We don't have a guy?
03:17Make an amount out of a molehill, a federal case.
03:19I said I wasn't.
03:20It just, but it goes, it reinforces what we've tried to explain to some of you guys, you know,
03:25that it's, there's no quarterback on this team right now.
03:28It's a competition at the bare minimum, you know, and it could be a cheap fix is Tua,
03:34but we have to wait and see, despite the dance moves or whether that video is legit of him
03:38throwing a football or not.
03:39Pennix Jr. has to, A, be healthy enough to compete to then win the starting job.
03:44So when it comes to, you know, Carl's point, any other team, you know where you, even if
03:48your team isn't all that great, you've got to establish a starting quarterback.
03:51Joe Burrow's going to be on the front of the Bengals, going to Madrid.
03:54Like, that's all.
03:55And Mike, I said to you, I was like, I love our guys, but that's the NFL.
04:00The NFL is, you watch on Sundays because you go, what quarterback?
04:05There were weeks, guys, last year, two years ago, Mike, where we had all these injuries
04:08in the league and you were like, it's the backup versus the third string guy.
04:12You had no interest, even if the other guys were good, you were like, it probably won't
04:16be a good game.
04:17And the NFL is weird like that.
04:19Sometimes backups come in and they're great, but the league is built on Mahomes and Allen.
04:23It's built on Aaron Rodgers, Mike, and Jordan Love, and that's what CJ Stroud, this is why
04:29we're watching.
04:30I went back to my photo loop from Berlin last year.
04:33They had Drake, they had Bijan, they had Jesse Bates outside the Olympic Stadium.
04:37Oh, outside the big hanging photos.
04:40Right.
04:41Penix was still establishing himself.
04:43So, you know, they, look, and that's the way of the world.
04:45Once you become established and you've got the roots and you're there and you're, you're
04:48the man, then you know.
04:50So again, it just, it's fun to have a conversation about it, but at the end of the day, there's
04:54some truth behind what you're talking about.
04:55There's some truth behind it.
04:56That's not hype.
04:57It's not.
04:58It's just, it's good.
04:58And by the way, if you're going to make the trip, great.
05:02If you're going over, but I'm just saying like, as far as promoting this and saying,
05:06hey, come see us because of this dude, that dude right now is the best running back in
05:12the league.
05:12And that's Bijan Robinson.
05:13And I have no issues with that whatsoever.
05:15That dude is Drake.
05:17That dude on defense is coming.
05:18And you said it because of JPJ.
05:20Mike, if he didn't have the off-field troubles, he might have been on this.
05:23But that's, that's part of this.
05:24And we'll see more as the schedule releases, but it's just, the irony to me is like, oh,
05:29I'm looking at these other releases and I'm going, quarterback, quarterback.
05:32Guys established.
05:33So that's, that's why when we, we have the conversation and some guys out there, oh,
05:36you're banging on Pennix.
05:37No, we're just telling it like it is.
05:39It's, it's, it's a giant question mark.
05:41You know, it's somebody hopefully will win the job, stay healthy and will execute.
05:45We'll kick in with Stefanski's offense and what it's supposed to look like.
05:48And we'll be off and running.
05:49But let me ask you.
05:50But you just don't, for guys who want to sit there and go, you know, you can't say,
05:53you know, you can hope that Pennix, we all hope that Pennix gets it.
05:56But there's a big, there's too many variables in this equation.
05:59But what if they had put Pennix on there?
06:00Would that, would that have been projecting that he's the guy?
06:03That tells you where the organization's going with this.
06:06So then that means Stefanski said, don't put either, either quarterback on there.
06:08No, because the current front office didn't draft him.
06:11So it's just, like I said, it is interesting.
06:13By the way, a bit of a breaking story, although we've not talked much about him.
06:16You see this with the Braves?
06:17No.
06:18Walt Weiss talking with the media.
06:20Our buddy Zach Klein from Channel 2.
06:22And we'll talk to Grant coming up here, guys, in about 15 minutes.
06:25It's reporting that Sean Murphy will be out a minimum of eight weeks.
06:28Oh!
06:29With a broken bone in his hand.
06:31Yeah, he was put on the I.L.
06:32That's 10 days, but that, that, ooh.
06:34So Zach, he was apparently in the scrum.
06:37We'll talk to Grant about it.
06:38You know, they did bring up the minor league catcher and put his deal up there.
06:42So anyway, Walt Weiss saying that Sean Murphy's going to be out a minimum of eight weeks.
06:45That's tough.
06:47I mean, he's just back.
06:48Right.
06:49Can't catch a break, pardon the pun.
06:51Yeah.
06:51He just can't catch a break.
06:52All right, that's on the way.
06:54Let's talk about something else, because as we're talking about Pennix, and Mike's talking
06:57about, you know, wanting him to be available and hopefully having a chance to prove, not
07:02only to us, but I think the league, and he wants to, that he's that guy.
07:06Fernando Mendoza tells an interesting story.
07:10The number one overall pick with the Raiders, the current national championship quarterback
07:13for Indiana, about our quarterback in Michael Pennix.
07:17And Day Day, you were mentioning this, because you said, hey, look, what he said tells you
07:23a lot about a guy like Michael Pennix, right?
07:25Yeah.
07:25I mean, first of all, we all agree Fernando Mendoza is the ultimate, like, car salesman
07:32can get you hype about anything type of guy.
07:35So when you hear this, it just kind of makes you, you know, think, you know what, maybe this
07:40won't be Tua's job.
07:42Yeah.
07:43My freshman year, honestly, I knew who he was.
07:44So after he torched us in the first game, I went up to him after, and I was like, hey,
07:47what's up?
07:48My name's Fernando from Miami.
07:49Like, just letting you know, you're an inspiration of Florida quarterbacks.
07:52And next year, I go up to him, he's like, oh, the kid from Miami, right?
07:54And I was like, that's insane.
07:56This guy's like, well, he's a three-string caliber player, and I'm a third-string quarterback
07:59of Cal.
07:59This guy remembered, like, who I was.
08:01He just remembered that I was a quarterback from Miami.
08:03Like, so that was really cool.
08:04And seeing that game, see the level of mastery that he had on the field, I was like, well, I'm
08:08really rooting for this guy, whether he knows it or not.
08:10How cool is that?
08:11Level of mastery on the field.
08:13Right.
08:14Yes.
08:15Dude, we were salivating about those dropping the dimes in there at Washington, the vertical
08:20passing game, something we have not seen, you know, since, you know, obviously since
08:24Matt left.
08:25Then he signed Kirk Cousins, and I was like, what the hell are you doing?
08:28Still didn't make sense to me at the time.
08:30But this kid, Carl, Mendoza, is just a dude.
08:33What do you want to say?
08:33He's like a Tim Tebow type, but he definitely gets people hyped up.
08:37And he's a good dude.
08:38I mean, he's legitimately excited to see Michael Pennix succeed based on Michael Pennix taking
08:43an interest in him as just a chance meeting after a game.
08:46Mike, you know what I get from this?
08:48Pennix kid has a...
08:50He's got a memory like an elephant.
08:51And you better watch out, because you...
08:54I hate people with three needs.
08:55He's trying to play starting quarterback.
08:56He is going to remember this, Mike.
08:58He remembered the third string quarterback, and he's like, yeah, you're the California kid.
09:02You better watch out, sir.
09:04I've told Michael Pennix before that we were pulling for him.
09:07I hate people with three needs.
09:07We love trying to play starting quarterback.
09:09You can't play under center.
09:10I love that.
09:11I don't know who that guy is.
09:12That's a horrible piece of the editor.
09:13You better watch out.
09:13I love the fact that a working man's hero was getting a $1.50 hot dog at Costco, and
09:17he was told he was going to get the start after Cousins went south.
09:20But you still have a guy with three-knees surgery.
09:22Oh, here he is.
09:23Okay?
09:24There he is.
09:25He's going to have to learn to play under center.
09:28Shut up, Mike.
09:28He's going to have to learn to play under center.
09:31He's got to back up.
09:32He's got to work on play action.
09:34You can't line up behind center because you'd have to bend your knee too much.
09:38He's going to remember all of you.
09:40And I hope if he does, he can bust me again.
09:42Hopefully, you know, Falcons aren't contractually obligated to have the stars on the show with us.
09:46But hopefully he will not take umbrage, and we'll be able to go, yeah, I showed you, and
09:50hopefully he does.
09:51We're all rooting for him.
09:52I'm just telling you what the law of averages is, kids.
09:54You don't want to hear the math.
09:55What a story.
09:56I just saved myself.
09:57What a story by Mendoza.
09:59I know, right?
09:59This guy's got a memory.
10:01All of you people.
10:02Michael.
10:03All of you people.
10:04Wait, hold up, hold up, Carl.
10:05What?
10:06Are you souring on your boy Tua now?
10:08What do you mean souring?
10:09I'm just simply stating facts here.
10:11I'm just saying, Carl.
10:12Michael Penix has a memory like an elephant.
10:15This kid remembered Ben Mendoza when he was a nobody.
10:18And you know he's listening, watching, judging.
10:21The reason I'm telling you all this is because I'm playing both sides so that I always come out
10:25on top.
10:26See, that's my boy C. Dukes right there.
10:29What are you talking about?
10:30That's my partner.
10:30The reason I'm telling you all this is because I'm playing both sides.
10:34You play four-dimensional chess with this.
10:37You know me.
10:38I pick its charge.
10:39I just come straight ahead and say, I don't believe he's ever going to be a star in this
10:43league.
10:43Oh, you said it.
10:44And he can take that to his memory bank and stick it up my keister if he does win the
10:48job and keep the job.
10:49You have said that.
10:50I hate people with three needs.
10:52He's trying to play starting quarterback.
10:53He can't play under center.
10:54Numerous times.
10:56Yeah.
10:56Man.
10:56That audio was doctored.
10:58I mean, that's crazy talk right there.
11:00Oh.
11:00All right, man.
11:01Half our audience has had three-knee surgery.
11:03Yeah, but they're not starting.
11:04Upper demographics.
11:06They're not starting in the NFL.
11:07I'm just saying, man.
11:07Carl went from T-U-A.
11:10First of all.
11:11First of all.
11:12No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
11:13Say it slower.
11:14First of all.
11:14Secondly, all right, we're talking about the capacity of Michael Pinnock.
11:19Day-Day's just bringing up a valid point of how this kid operates his brain and what
11:24The reason I'm telling you all this is because I'm playing both sides.
11:27Yeah, so he's going to hear me talking about his knees, and he's going to hear about
11:30you going, I brought to Tua for basically two months.
11:35I don't know what you're talking about.
11:36You just fell in love with Tua.
11:37Tua, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
11:39404-726-0929.
11:42Yeah, Jiu-Jitsu for sure.
11:45Tua's got a black belt in BS, okay?
11:49I'm telling you what you want to hear, man.
11:50So he knows how to fall correctly.
11:52I don't understand what the big deal is.
11:53No, he's got a black belt in Russell Wilson speak.
11:56That's what he's got a black belt in.
11:57I just want the...
11:57There's no two ways about it, you know, when it comes to the NFL.
12:02He's right.
12:04But listen, I just want the best quarterback, okay?
12:08Who the Falcons feel won't be on the cover of anything because they don't really believe
12:12or know who the guy is going to be just yet.
12:14When they're promoting the team flying to Spain.
12:16Seriously, seriously.
12:17And guys, don't think for a second that they're not aware of this.
12:22Right, right.
12:22And by the way, it's not a wrong thing.
12:24I would prefer they do this and put Pinnock's on there and then he's not available.
12:27And if you put Tua on there and by week three, Tua's, you know, crap the bed and Pinnock's
12:31in there.
12:32So yeah, I mean, you put the bankable stars on the materials to promote the game.
12:37That's it.
12:38And those guys are still a question mark.
12:40But that's...
12:41So guys, don't get mad at me.
12:42Don't kill the messenger.
12:43You can kill Carl on his Tua love.
12:44But I mean, this is why the Falcons...
12:46Because it is to be determined.
12:49You know what?
12:49This is a very biased conversation right now.
12:52You will get the best version of Tua Tungvalu.
12:54You know what?
12:55Gilbert Arenas was the agent zero.
12:57You're the double agent.
12:57You know, you're the double agent.
12:59I just, I like the fact that Pinnock's has this kind of capacity to remember everything.
13:03What's that?
13:03Those license plates, they have like a house divided with the two universities?
13:06Yes.
13:06That's going to be in front of Carl's car with Pinnock's and Tua on the front of it now.
13:09Yes.
13:09Is it one in the nines, Tua wearing one?
13:11Yeah.
13:11One in the nine.
13:12One in the nine.
13:13One in the nine.
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