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In this episode of For a Living, we follow Halima (@halimabot), a rising musician based in NYC whose sound draws from a tri-continental upbringing between Lagos, London, and New York. From early folk and piano explorations to later studies in jazz and R&B, Halima’s music pulls unapologetically from a broad spectrum of influences. Beyond the stage, she’s navigating the financial realities of life as a working artist -- balancing touring with teaching at NYU, building multiple revenue streams, and even starting her own label, One Percent Genius. We dive into her journey of following passion, creating community, and confronting the challenges of making a living through music.

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Transcript
00:00Whatever it is you're presenting to the world, it has to be true.
00:04If you're trying to fabricate something, it's going to fall flat because the intention is lost.
00:10Let's strip away all of these bells and whistles and like what is the center?
00:14I think that the moments that you experience my music or a live show or the art, the design around
00:21the album are reflections of that core and that to me is like so exciting.
00:27My name is Halima. I am a recording artist, songwriter and producer for a living.
00:43I'm working on my debut album called Sweet Tooth. The first single came out. It's called Coco Body and
00:49we're having a release party event for the single in Brooklyn tonight. So just getting ready for that
00:54today. I've never done a show like this before, but I think it's going to be incredible.
01:11Music had been a huge part of my childhood. I grew up in Lagos. It was such a sonically colorful
01:16city.
01:17My uncle used to sing Nigerian gospel songs and he'd play the piano. I'd sit right by him plonking
01:24down on the keys and my grandmother would sit in the corner and just listen to us. I'm the only
01:28person in my family pursuing this career, but their appreciation of music has been the inspiration.
01:37I mainly grew up in London and I hated it actually, for the beginning. Don't come for me. I love
01:42London.
01:42I rep London. But moving from Lagos was really traumatic. As a kid, you're going from sunshine
01:49and being with your grandparents, this kind of euphoria, to this cold rainy city where not as
01:56many people look like you. I remember like having one interaction with a kid and they asked me like
02:02why I spoke the way I spoke and I had a thick Nigerian accent. I was a very outspoken kid
02:06and then
02:07I became really shy when I moved to London. And so honestly, like music was the way that I could
02:12express those feelings. And then when I was nine, there was this summer stage performance. I wrote
02:20this song and I got my friend to sing backing vocals and I got my other friend to play trumpet.
02:25We
02:26performed this original song. After that moment, I was like, okay, I want this feeling all the time.
02:31And it was the fact that we had created something together and then we showcased it and we were
02:38celebrating the whole process that had gone into creating. And so I think that I always have that
02:44feeling celebrating the culmination of the process. There's nothing like it.
02:52I started playing guitar when I was nine. My mum put me in piano lessons, but I was playing all
02:58of these,
02:59you know, traditional like compositions. I was like, I just don't want to play these like old white men
03:03songs. Like, I want to play my music. And I was like, can you get me a guitar? And she
03:08was like,
03:08no, because I got you a keyboard. I saved up all my pocket money and bought myself a very cheap
03:15classical guitar. I was just like playing around and messing around and like, oh, what happens if I
03:20put my finger here? What happens if I put all my fingers down here? Songwriting has always just been
03:25that way for me to process my emotions because I have a lot of thought. There's this channel that
03:31exists, which is like the creative flow state. And you can turn yourself from this like anxious person
03:38to like this vessel and just be releasing. And that is something that I'm so grateful to have always
03:46known since I was a kid. I knew then as a kid, something is speaking. I don't know. I'm tapping
03:52into
03:52this thing. Just letting it come through. People will describe it as a muscle and it's a skill,
03:57but I think it's actually a relationship to that source. And the more that you're in conversation,
04:04the easier it is.
04:06I definitely have a favorite part of the process. Being in the studio, it's like a playground. I love
04:13to pick up a shaker. I love to get the guitar, get the keyboard out and just start messing around
04:19and
04:19figuring out what makes me feel something. What doesn't sound good, but I'm glad that I went there.
04:25I really enjoy the process of draft, scratch, draft, scratch. Ooh, this is something. And now I'm like
04:34locked into the flow. But I had to usher in the state by making something that wasn't that great,
04:40but not being afraid to do that. So I could then allow myself to hear the thing that needs to
04:45be
04:45communicated. That is my favorite part. It really is.
04:51I like to say that my music is genre-full. It's overflowing with genre because I love
04:57so many different styles of music, so much different expression. Music is just the language
05:02of our feeling and our emotion. So whatever translates that is what you should make.
05:10The most challenging thing about being a musician is money. That is not a reason to be a musician.
05:15If you want to make a lot of bank, pick something else. Not to say that you can't, that it's
05:20not
05:20possible. It absolutely is. But you have to want something much deeper than that. And you also have
05:26to be in love with the process. I teach music production. As an adjunct professor, that's about 30k a year.
05:34Last year I played about 12 to 15 shows and made roughly 300 to 700 per show. There's a lot
05:43of passive
05:44income. Some years it's really high and some years it's a bit lower. Anything from like syncs. So that's
05:50like getting the music in film and TV or any ads, your royalties, PRO company. So when you perform,
05:56you also get paid. And that's roughly around 15k a year.
06:02It's actually quite spiritual advocating for yourself in this music industry. As a queer black woman,
06:09I think it requires being very discerning. A lot of willpower and the reminder that you're not even
06:17just doing this for yourself. It's going to reflect on other people who come later who look like you
06:24and can get this opportunity easier than you did. I think it's important to keep one foot in and one
06:31foot out in the industry. And the one foot out is going to be in community. And that keeps you
06:36grounded. That keeps you away from getting swept up in something that really isn't the reason why you're
06:43even here. The project I'm working on right now is called Sweet Tooth. It's my debut album, which is
06:49crazy to think about. It means a lot to me. It means taking up space and evolution into a vision
06:56of
06:57myself. I think I've had, but I've had to let go of the habits that were preventing me from being
07:01that
07:02person. That's what this album really and truly is about. I don't know if there's something that I
07:10want people to know about me specifically. I think that I want people to know me genuinely.
07:18And I don't know how much control I have over that. But what I do have control over is just
07:25being
07:25myself and the rest, you know, comes when it comes. I want people to know my music is honest
07:34and I treat it with a lot of care and I'm very grateful for the people who do the same.
07:41I've been thinking a lot about branding and it's not this marketing hack that you're trying to, you
07:46know, beat the algorithm and you're trying to whatever. It just feels like little breadcrumbs to me.
07:52It's fun and it's playful and that's how it should be. It's just, you know, rooted in you.
08:01So, some career aspirations might look like selling out a world tour. Oh my God.
08:08Performing at Glastonbury. Releasing several critically acclaimed albums. Setting up an
08:15education centre in Lagos. One of my goals is to keep pushing beyond what I think that I can achieve.
08:25Even some of the goals that I've shared. What's a crazier ambition? I think that for a while I
08:31steered away from being ambitious because I thought it was a product of capitalism, which
08:36I'm okay. But I've learned that I like to challenge myself. It's encouraging because it reinforces that
08:43power within yourself that we all have that and we can exercise it and demonstrate how remarkable we can be.
08:51And so, that's a goal that I have for myself. Just keep pushing beyond the limitations that I think exist.
09:01I want to have a unique experience of this life and I think that this path is not written.
09:09Even though it can be terrifying, I feel alive every day. I wake up and I'm grateful that I can
09:14be here
09:15and I can be making this art with the people that I love. So that's what I really like about
09:20being a musician.
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