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00:03welcome back to another edition of straight out of flushing's your boy dexter henry along with
00:08the great tyler ward wardy it's been a while man it's been a while since i've been on here
00:13i've been busy with some things uh but you've been all plugged in with the mets as you should
00:18except plugged in has not really been that fun with the mets who were recording this on may 11th
00:24and the mets still have the worst record in baseball 15 and 25 not fun times how are you
00:30doing my good friend how's it going let's go nick stacks let's just start with that okay there's
00:36something to be positive about right listen there's one team in orange and blue that has me
00:40absolutely amped up right now that's a nixon which you've been doing a tremendous job covering
00:44they're in studio for the post the past couple weeks so keep it up fantastic stuff that's the
00:49only positive i have for you right now other than that everything else has been absolutely miserable
00:54i mean the miserable mets something that we know too well or the new york mess whatever you want
00:58to call them we're going to get right in the thick of it today in this conversation because as you
01:02stated it's may 11th the team is still the worst in baseball it's a cliche saying you say to your
01:08kid
01:08after they come home from school after they absolutely effed up one way or another i'm not surprised
01:13i'm not mad i'm just disappointed that's where we're at right now dex yeah yeah man feels like a lot
01:20of disappointment from mets fans right now and we're gonna get we're gonna get this we're gonna
01:24focus a lot of this episode specifically on where we think the bland 49 are lineman on this where we
01:30think the blame has to be right now has to be focused on but let's talk about this road trip
01:35because
01:35the mets finished five and four in this road trip and it's a brutal end to the road trip right
01:41the way
01:41they lost two out of three to the diamondbacks they finished this trip five and four i was talking to
01:46before we started recording and i said hey if this team had on this road trip and went seven and
01:51two
01:51you might have had me feeling a little bit of hope here just a little just a little bit
01:56wardy because i am at the place where until this team gets back to 500 and we'll get to this
02:01more a
02:02little bit later in episode i'm not getting all in on hope but five and four it's got to be
02:07a
02:07disappointing road trip you saw the struggles on offense once again this is the met team has not been
02:12good on offense they are averaging three and a half runs per game that is i don't have to tell
02:17you folks that's terrible okay that is not good at all you saw the issues again defensively right and
02:23all we heard my good friend was about run prevention and we have not seen the run prevention
02:28and this team can't score runs what did you make of this road trip i know some people will say
02:33hey it
02:34was a winning road trip it's five and four i think it's a disappointment it's another disappointment
02:39in the season i don't think there's anything to be excited about from this road trip what did you
02:42make of what you saw from this mets road trip where they went five and four all right dexter let's
02:48start off with who the mets played yes road trip okay the la angels of anaheim which doesn't make
02:53any sense then you of course have the colorado rockies and the arizona diamondbacks what do these
03:00three teams have in common those are all teams that the mets in theory heading into the season
03:04should be comfortably better than but what have we seen for the first month and a half this year
03:09as the mets have had one of the best on paper strength of schedules in all major league baseball
03:13it's a continuation more than the same not taking advantage of it back-to-back series wins for the
03:18first time this year when looking at the angels and um of course rocky series not necessarily a bad
03:24thing i understand how hard it is to sweep in today's game i mean it feels like i truly can
03:29count
03:29on my hand over the past calendar year the amount of sweeps in a series the mets have had because
03:32it really doesn't happen very often at least not for them and to not be able to get more than
03:38obviously taking those serious victories isn't the end of the world but at the same time you would
03:43have hoped for more there and that kind of four and two stretch then we get to the arizona diamondback
03:47series and this was a really continuation of what we saw last time the mets play the d-backs at
03:52home
03:53which was a complete lackluster offense after just scratching out and getting that first victory in this
03:58series let's not forget a couple weeks ago when the mets were in arizona uh had arizona at home
04:03they walked them off for the first game ryan maricio takes a meatball from paul seawall to the right
04:08side and that's the story afterwards the mets go down with their bats and water rodriguez carves them
04:14up and lo and behold that's exactly what happened in the past you know really throughout the entire
04:18series ryan nelson who had a right around seven year ray for game one that series had just as good
04:24of a
04:24line as noel mcclain but thankfully mcclain's a dog and he helped carry the way mark vientos did his
04:29thing because mark doesn't step up at home but on the road he has been a solid hitter so far
04:33this
04:33season for the most part then you look at game two in this series you're facing merrill kelly who had
04:38what an eight or so year ray at that point in the season and he goes seven dominant innings
04:43against the new york mets for a diamondbacks game two victory and then the finale eduardo rodriguez
04:48the veteran southpaw who has been nails all season long he deserves credit i know i joke and see all
04:53the
04:53time oh as soon as the lefties on the mountain he's gonna look like randy johnson well there's
04:57actually some similarities between being a big towering lefty in arizona and a guy who's been
05:02off to a great season so i will give credit where credit is due there but the fact that this
05:06man was
05:06two outs away from going a full complete game against the new york mats again tells you all you
05:11need to know um it's very disheartening to see them go five and four when you were a team that
05:17was
05:17initially up four and two on this road trip and instead of gaining ground and getting to i don't
05:23know anywhere as close to six games below 500 or seven games below 500 they're back at square one
05:28just as they started this trip at 10 games below 500 it's more the same it's more the exact same
05:34lackluster problems with their offense which is currently the worst in baseball 30th in the game
05:39right now yep um and this brings me to my point to you dexter again at this point at this
05:44juncture
05:44at may 11th we're not surprised by this but we're so incredibly disappointed you know i'm gonna flip it
05:51back to you now dex last time we were talking you know when we started advocating maybe the
05:55match should make a marriage rule change that was two and a half weeks into the season okay we are
06:00a
06:00month and a half into the season nothing has changed things have only gotten worse and the difference
06:06that we saw then versus now is the mets were at least healthy the first two and a half three
06:11weeks
06:12of the season they had even though polanco has basically been hurt all year and that's malpracticed
06:16by the new york mets you had luis robert who was effective when healthy you had francisco and door
06:21before he went down with his injury and even when those things were happening and you have those
06:24pieces you still were not able to put the puzzle pieces together now you're without those core three
06:30in your lineup you are a team that's having guys like andy abanez a dfa candidate recently for the a's
06:36scooped up by the mets has two costly hours in this serious valley because of course he does because
06:41why we have to start him oh austin slater you know who has like a career 778 ops against southpaws
06:47but hasn't hit a look beyond what a buck 25 the past couple years always starting left field for you
06:52so my question you now dex flipping it back to you is what has been your takeaway from a mets
06:58team
06:58that looked really bad when they were healthy and now is only getting worse because color me shocked
07:03the guys are banking on to stay healthy are most certainly not my takeaway is that this is a bad
07:09team
07:09overall and that something is really rotten with this team right when we told you're right and we
07:16talked about this two and a half weeks ago and we were having the debate whether or not carlos mendoza
07:22should go and you were on the this needs to happen right now i said let's give him that homestand
07:31to
07:31the end of the month i said let's get past my birthday let's give him to the end of the
07:34month
07:35and boy was i wrong i listen and we'll get we'll get to david stearns in a second
07:42this team when i say it's the core is rotten what i'm saying is the structural design
07:53and foundation of this team is rotten right if you're building a home and yeah you have a good
08:00foundation it's going to collapse this isn't good the mets have collapsed so this we were talking
08:06about this when the mets were relatively healthy when all you were really worried about that time
08:11yes polanco been injured all year you were worried at the time about juan soto coming back and healthy
08:16and he's come back and he's been fine but now no francisco lindor now you have hope no polanco now
08:23you
08:23have no louise robert jr they're unhealthy they're putting out guys who are not major league players
08:30to play so you can't be surprised when they mess up you can't be surprised when you see the defensive
08:35errors you can't be surprised when they're not hitting like none of this is shocking because the
08:41foundation is bad the lineup we we've got it we've got to eat out crow we've got to take it
08:48wardy and i both felt this way in spring training and we said hey this lineup is going to be
08:53more
08:53dynamic they're going to be able to withstand droughts you know when the top players don't hit
08:59other guys be able to pick them up we haven't seen that and now we're asking guys who are not
09:03major league players to pick them up that's ridiculous that has to fall on david stearns like yeah we're
09:13past carlos mendoza now we even acknowledged wardy that while we thought there should be a change
09:20maybe you fire the manager to get some sort of spark and we see what that's done for the philadelphia
09:25phillies maybe you do that we understood that this wasn't all on carlos mendoza carlos mendoza
09:31has got to take some blame his team hasn't been good since june of last year right we've we've seen
09:37that
09:39but this only proves how bad this team is right now we'll get to the we'll get later in this
09:48episode
09:48to whether or not this can be turned around because we've seen things happen in baseball this is not
09:52completely over but where's the hope right now some of this has to fall on the fact that this is
09:58where
09:58we get to david stearns you know what take the band-aid off let's get right to david stearns okay
10:02please can we let's let's let's not dance around this okay let's let's not do let's not do this
10:08i'm gonna give a statement and let's say here the failure thus far through 40 games where the mets are
10:1615 and 25 my friend the failure of this season considering what this payroll is at 380 million
10:24dollars not my money but we can still complain about it the failure starts with david stearns
10:35this guy was brought in here to construct a roster i understand and i've said this before
10:40this is the first year that the team is in his image in his likeness in the way that he
10:47wanted it to
10:48do and we'll sit here i'm gonna put myself here i'm not gonna we're never gonna lie to the people
10:54that's not what we're gonna do we like some of the moves he made this offseason i thought it was
11:00good i bought into it did i think no there was some risk in signing a jory polanco absolutely was
11:05there risk in trading for luis robert jr who has been healthy absolutely those risks have come up
11:12right up in our faces i don't say it's blown up but it's right in our faces that's fine but
11:18where's
11:18the run prevention where's the dynamic offense where's the sustainability that we thought could
11:27happen from this team the pitching up and down where where where where is the value for 380 million
11:37dollars that that is on david stearns right now here's the thing and i'll then i'll hand this
11:45pass the baton back to you my friend i understand that this is part of the reason we talked about
11:51the
11:51heat being on mendoza he's in the final year of his contract they changed his coaching staff
11:56so we all knew that okay this is big for mendoza he's got to get it done he's got to
12:03get off to a
12:03good start that hasn't happened 15 to 25 understand that david stearns his contract's a little bit
12:11longer so you're going to give him a little bit more rope but no no no no no no i'm
12:15saying stop here
12:16the rope stops here you got to start putting the pressure on david stearns because i know it's early
12:22and there's it's still a good amount of baseball left right i understand that we have 122 more games
12:29to play but you got to look at this say the moves didn't work and now it's that is david
12:34stearns
12:34going to make a counter move is he going to start trying to add to this offense i understand it's
12:39may
12:39this offense is terrible it's the worst in baseball is he going to start making moves to correct some of
12:45the mistakes he made are we there yet i say yes but i don't know if you're with me wardy
12:54this failure to start the season and notice the words i'm using but i'm using failure to start
12:59the season which doesn't mean things can't turn around but it has to be solely and squarely
13:06on david stearns it starts with david stearns and i've had a lot of pushback so far this season while
13:13being a heavy advocate for you know kicking carlis mendoza the curb because everyone's like
13:18tyler warty this is so much more than just mendoza it starts with david and i'm like i hear you
13:23but you have to understand the reason why i'm saying what i'm saying is because this is not how
13:27baseball teams operate for as frustrating as the mets have been as they have operated and they've
13:33done a lot of things i think not in line with how i think proper clubs should operate having said
13:38that how often do you see mlb team that was only a couple years into their president axing him early
13:45in a season mind you when there was so much investment with that individual in the first place
13:50instead of starting with the manager and then going on from there that this is how baseball works this
13:56is why dave dombrowski who sat on his hands all off season for the philadelphia phillies did not break
14:01up their core did nothing really to make them much better used rob thompson as a safe face decision
14:08early in the first month of the year to make a managerial change and while the phillies are not
14:12the best team imaginable right now they have been on the upward trend for the most part by making that
14:17change and it has been more of a benefit than a detriment they knew it was early in the year
14:21enough to make that kind of quick change just like what they did with joe girardi back in 2022
14:25and they're hoping to see the turnout somewhere to what happened then if it doesn't happen okay
14:29but at least they're putting at minimum the bare minimum effort which is making a managerial change
14:34regardless as to how justified or not it is the boston red sox similar circumstance they're not
14:40having the same amount of success as the phillies have been having but the red sox are a less
14:44structurally sound organization craig breslow who in many people's eyes is viewed as a puppet
14:49for mr john henry and henry has really missed the mark at spending the way that he's supposed to as
14:54a
14:54big market owner for the boston red sox ask any diehard red sox fan and they're
14:59beyond fed up with henry they're saying fire sale fire sale fire sale we need to sell this team
15:05that's what we need to do that's the red sox belief but here's the point though they still
15:09made a managerial change even with their 2018 world series champion manager and alex cora deemed by
15:14many as one of the best in-game managers in today's game there's a lot of turmoil there they built
15:20a
15:20terrible roster but they still made that decision to save face even though it's not leading to success
15:25at least they still went ahead and made that decision you see my point so for the new york
15:29mets here if this trend were to continue it starts with mendy and when it comes to actually making
15:35change i agree with you though this obviously starts with david stearns on the greater scale and i want
15:40to take this back let's go all the way back to 2024 let's start with the beginning of david stearns
15:48let's
15:48actually dissect this timeline okay this is all off the dome there's no homework if i miss anything
15:53that's okay but i'm fairly confident watching every single game and covering this team under
15:57the sterns era as to what's happened 2024 you come in you're running it back with a lot of same
16:02guys
16:03you had from your original core this is sterns's first year so he has his hands on but it's not
16:08fully on yet because this is not truly his team it's just a team that he's starting to chip away
16:13and
16:13build some pieces around so from the louis severino signing to the shamanaya acquisition guys have
16:19stepped up and played well above their weight because the mets were able to get the best out of them
16:23in those sample sizes that's what stearns was known for especially in the small market in milwaukee
16:27gained the best out of players especially if say they were coming off of down years among other
16:31things but wasn't great player development so after the mets had that terrible start they make
16:37a strong move by calling up jose iglesias and mind you this is a move that from what i've heard
16:42was not something that david stearns at all had on his radar or was going to be advocating anytime soon
16:46as it happened it was jd martinez whispering in the ear of carlos mendoza throughout that team meeting
16:51when jorge lopez tossed the glove into the stands and said you should call iglesias he is the exact
16:57kind of mentality that we need in the clubhouse right now i had great success with him in boston
17:01that is the type of charismatic extrovert player that would only bode well for the type of struggles
17:06that we have right now pairing that with a team that had no expectations they took advantage of that
17:11to their benefit and they proved everyone wrong and the mets went on and had a very entertaining summer
17:16i will never forget that i always appreciate that run for what it was but the takeaway from that run
17:22was unity identity and commonality you had a group that really came together as one that they showed up
17:29and they were so excited to come to ballpark every single you could tell like they they were oozing
17:34happiness and confidence this was a team that regardless as to how they played throughout the
17:38regular season in their games you knew you could not count them out until the final out because they
17:42had that clutching ability about them there was something about the mets where they knew that no matter
17:46where they were in the game but they knew until that final out was secured that essentially it's a
17:52whole new ball game anything can happen that was a great mentality that calls mendoza help bestow upon
17:57them francisco and dordan lead off and the rest is history so the 2024 run falls short not for lack
18:04of
18:04effort we get to 2025 david stern says okay you know what let's listen to the fans a bit let's
18:09run it back
18:10with a lot of this team because we had a lot of success that was issue number one because the
18:15mets
18:15decided to run it back with a shamanaya who did not have the track record to justify the three
18:20year 75 million dollar contract but i'm not going to sit here and act like i didn't want at the
18:24time
18:24because as a fan i most certainly did it was hard not to with the way that man i pitched
18:28down the
18:28stretch in that season then you have louis severino you're hoping to run it back but he says you know
18:33what savvy i understand that you would take a pay cut to come back here just on a two-year
18:36deal i know
18:37how much you want to be in new york still but we're gonna go with frankie montas because i was
18:41happy that
18:41he had three starts last year for the reds and the milwaukee brewers you know then we look at a
18:46bullpen construction and a bullpen that again missed the mark entirely the mets biggest bullpen
18:52acquisition that offseason other than bringing edwin diaz back was just a simple fact of oh yeah
18:56by the way we're bringing aj mentor who didn't pitch at all in the second half of the 2024 season
19:01for
19:02the atlanta braves due to injury coming back from injury and oh yeah he's gonna be down for the next
19:06year plus so again the biggest bullpen move you made was already over before it began then you look
19:12at the rest of that lineup a lot of the same but to the club's detriment and we saw a
19:16mets team
19:17that sat on their hands throughout that entire year so terribly and that is where the david stern's
19:22questions really arise because almost every single move he made from that offseason did not work
19:27out from bringing back jesse winker who essentially broke his back on the first and only outfield play
19:32he made in a doubleheader against the cardinals and may of last year and i still miss jesse
19:36but he may never play again you know like it's just crazy things like that you think of you think
19:41just beyond david stern's but you could talk about david too some of the guys that the mets have
19:45committed to in the stern's era are not guys have been on major league teams since are not guys have
19:50done anything at the major league level since and one does have to wonder and think huh if the mets
19:55were the only exception are the mets really the smartest group here or are they the ones that are behind
19:59the eight ball and it's become abundantly clear that how strength is operated they've continued
20:03to be behind the eight ball because david stern's i've said this to you verbatim dex and i'll say it
20:08again i cannot get over his end of season remarks last year i will hold this to him until the
20:14very end
20:15stating publicly yes in hindsight i definitely could be more proactive when it comes to in-season
20:21decision making you know instead of being as ultra conservative where when your entire rotation is going
20:26to kaput due to injuries and inconsistencies and an offense that doesn't have a clutch in their body
20:30let's wait until the traded line literally the traded line to do anything in proactivity when the team
20:36already dug themselves in a hole that was very difficult to dig themselves out of now we fast
20:42forward to 2026 david says it's time for me to be the president that i want to be it's time
20:48for me
20:48to really build this team which i was in favor of to certain degrees did i want alonzo back yes
20:54did i think
20:55it was the end of the world that he didn't return no but my biggest concern was how are you
20:58going to
20:59replace that power that was my main takeaway from that until we saw the other moves that they did
21:03edwin diaz not coming back feels a little bit malpracticed by the new york mets feels like some
21:08great negotiating by andrew freeman and also feels like edwin diaz kind of being snaky because
21:12obviously you just want to go to the champion dodgers all those things can be true at the same
21:16time champion you'll be imparted with we all wanted that no one's complaining about it that was all
21:20overdue in many people's eyes especially with the youth movement the mets had with their infield
21:24building into 2026 brandon nimmo we love brandon we know the defense has been lackluster he has an
21:30aging contract that doesn't look great and while brandon has been in so many ways a fixture in this
21:35organization i will always love brandon no no qualms with him whatsoever you bring in marcus simeon
21:41older less offensive value right away and outside of strong defense at second base you're really not
21:46getting anything besides just leadership skills so okay you go ahead and do that for the sake of making
21:51a change and saving a little bit of money in the grand scheme of things of that deal and then
21:55you
21:55go ahead and say you know what we look at this rotation we see kodai sanga have the year that
22:00he
22:00had we see david pearson have the second half they had we see shamanaya be a non-factor all year
22:05long
22:05who decided we're not going to get a surgery on those loose bodies in my elbow why because i don't
22:10want to that's why according to shamanaya apparently so we go into the season we say ideally we need at
22:16least
22:16two starters out of this rotation that minimum you know this is kind of the story every year
22:20but we really need it this year they bring in freddie peralta tremendous move on paper makes so
22:25much sense especially the familiarity with david sturds no one's complaining about that that made
22:30logical sense which was great but here's where you see the marks constantly missed you needed two
22:36starters and you added one you needed to trade away one of your starters and you traded none you know
22:41you had an abundance but this was not an abundance of riches when it came to the met starting depth
22:46as it was more so just an abundance of quantity and while yes you have upside in your farm that
22:52we're excited to see break out this year banking on that as a certainty will be to the club's detriment
22:57because you don't know what you're getting and uncertainty is something that david stern's i'm
23:01genuinely impressed in the worst way possible clings on to more than anyone i've ever seen i mean he loves
23:06uncertainty he thinks uncertainty is exactly what you should buy into because uncertainty in
23:11his eyes will become certainty well we're two and a half years index and nothing about the uncertain
23:16moves that david strength has made has led to certainty as a matter of fact it's been quite
23:20the contrary so instead of maybe either bringing in another starter via the free agent market
23:25regardless of the qo attachments or not maybe you could have traded for another starter or maybe a
23:31true swing like tobias myers is nice but it would have been nice to bring in at least one more
23:35starter that gave you a bit more quality you could trade a david pearson kodai senga and if you don't
23:39get a
23:39big return you know what it's almost like there's a reason why these are two guys right now about
23:43while david did not pitch bad yesterday it's not someone that the mets can even trust as a starter
23:48because laps are going so ready heavy against him and they know he's going to be batting practice right
23:52away like there's no comfortability there there's there's three starters in this mets rotation
23:56you're comfortable with christian scott is starting to enter that category is potentially the fourth
24:00which is great but whether it's mclean peralta homes that four and five is still a massive
24:06uncertainty and it's frustrating to no end i apologize for this ted talk but this all needs
24:11to be said here that you go out your way to not make the moves you're supposed to make and
24:15then you
24:16have your hands up like oh how did we get here you have a bullpen where you clearly needed to
24:20be adding
24:21at least two if not three quality relievers i'm all for having one bullpen spot being open for
24:26youngsters or just those fringe guys to see what's gonna work what doesn't david stearns pitched more
24:32pitchers at the major league level for the mets last year than any other team in franchise history
24:36and direct him because of his malpractice and his misses when it came to building a roster with
24:41this pitching staff so now you're banking on aj mentor to be that lefty who is just starting to
24:46throw again after having a setback you go ahead and you don't add more to this pen the way that
24:51you most certainly should have you bank on guys like luke weaver to essentially be your seventh
24:55eighth inning guy when there were so many arms available in the free agent trademark okay you could
24:59have overspent a little bit you could add an aj preler moment you know what we will trade a top
25:04prospect for a really controllable reliever why because we don't need that prospect and we're in
25:08a position to win now and that lack of understanding that you are in a position to win solely now
25:15is what
25:16is so painful about watching how david stearns operates he doesn't operate like this is a team
25:21in a win now stage he operates focusing short and long term but neither of those things are panning out
25:27right now the farm looks great the player development has yet to do anything substantial at the major league
25:32level and then you look at what's happening at the major league level and it's just more and more
25:36incompetence so again i can go much deeper with this but we we're not going to be here all day
25:40so
25:41to put a pin in it and to just shut me up now my remarks on david stearns is how
25:46can you justify this
25:47man staying at the helm by time we reach the year's end if not mid-season if this is the
25:52way they're
25:52going to continue to operate the way that the philosophy has been so analytically minded i'm all for the
25:57numbers but i'm not for the numbers when it's to the club's detriment the way that is most certainly
26:01pure that way you bring in troy snicker a very good hitting coach from the astros and he looks
26:06like and the mets look like they've never hit a baseball before you promote jeff albert to be
26:10your heading director and doesn't matter no if anything it's more conflicting minds because you
26:14have too many opinions going around on how to approach the offense your pitching staff you part
26:18ways with jeremy hafner well we all knew he wasn't the massive problem here but you make that change
26:23hafner is doing perfectly fine with the atlanta with the braves and the new york mets now with their
26:28pitching staff regardless of the fact that i like justin willard you know there are some questions
26:32there he hasn't been terrible mets are top six in pitching this year per fan graphs and wins above
26:37replacement so it's not even like that is the issue for them but when you have an offense as bad
26:41as it's
26:41been you saw things from a mile away and then this brings us to our main point x the uncertainty
26:47that
26:47comes with the injury played jorge polanco the uncertainty that comes with luis robert you may ask
26:52yourself already what do you what would you have done different i would have done everything in my power to
26:56make sure that kyle tucker got here you know that's for one and i know the mets did a lot
27:01they
27:01offered 60 plus million a year they had a better offer up until his first opt-out than when the
27:05dodgers had it's hard to beat a team in the dodgers when the dodgers are the dodgers i get it
27:09it's hard
27:10that one is hard for me to kill him for it and i'm not killing him for it but the
27:13point stands you bring
27:15in boba shett when he was never a proper roster fit but you knew you needed a bat first mentality
27:20to
27:20bat in your top three boba shett has played the worst baseball he's had since 2024 and what was he
27:24in 2024
27:25injury plagued that entire year for the toronto blue jays so what's happening with injuries or
27:30is he just not properly adjusting to a new market it's probably more the latter than anything else
27:34and when you completely dismantle your cortex and you bring in a whole new core that is just meeting
27:40each other for the first time not playing well handling a big market for the first time like new
27:45york and dealing with this fan base and dealing with the media and dealing with talking heads like
27:48ourselves it's not overly surprising that we got to this point but the lack of foresight and the lack
27:54of seeing this vision from a mile away is truly why i'm perplexed why you're perplexed and why we're
27:59in the predicament that we find ourselves in okay so sorry i had to let that a lot to digest
28:05from
28:06wardy i look here's the thing when we we and i've brought this up before in the show when we've
28:14heard
28:14we we talked about steve cohen being a cat the last time you and i talked we even talked about
28:18steve
28:18cohen what's his accountability in all of this when we talk about sustainability when we talk
28:24about continuity you just wonderfully mentioned that the mets core changed and that when you change
28:32your core and you don't have a full swing training because of the world baseball classic and all that
28:36is going to take time for this quarter adjust right we're not excusing i want to be very clear
28:41wardy's not excusing i'm not excusing the fact that this team's offense is terrible right now terrible
28:46right worse than baseball this is just it but we got to look at something here and this is why
28:52because you also asked the question of why when will david sterns be accountable here
29:01um here's the thing with the mets
29:05we like to talk about consistency we like to talk about sustainability the mets have had a lot of front
29:11office turnover a lot since 2018 this is just since 2018 guys they've employed seven heads of baseball
29:21operations now a lot of crazy things happened for us to get to that hearing that i'm sorry i'm not
29:28surprised just like oh my god it's like wardy that's crazy seven almost every year there's a new guy
29:36right and we got to check this because david sterns by starting this season his third season at the helm
29:46he's now the longest tenure decision maker in the head of baseball operations since sandy alderson
29:55left in 2018 do you realize how much change that is for the new york much simply put so here's
30:06what i want to say
30:07so with all that being said i know there's some people and this is what you were saying at the
30:13top
30:14of your ted talk but some people are going to say get sterns up out of here right now that's
30:20not how
30:21baseball works and that's not going to happen we understand this this is the first year of him
30:26having the team in his image it hasn't looked well he's going to get this season his contract runs
30:32through 2028 i don't see steve cohen just saying get out of here unless this season goes terribly bad
30:40wrong and what i mean by terribly wrong is the mets do not reach the goal of which we both
30:44said they had
30:46to do this season which is make the postseason that was number one you cannot have a 380 million
30:51dollar payroll and not make the postseason for the second year in a row they're the worst team
30:56money can buy right now dex you said worst team money could buy right now absolutely yeah but yes
31:02it is they might have to write the worst team money could buy book two it might have to happen
31:07part two
31:07might have to happen my point being is at some point if you're the mets
31:14it's got to start at the top and you've got to get it right so is david stern's going to
31:20get more
31:20time to turn this around yes but this also gets to what warty also talked about in his ted talk
31:27are you then going to look at what happened this winter and say we got to make some changes some
31:33things have to happen and we've been talking about changes i talked the last time warty and i talked about
31:38the mets having a standard the mets don't have a standard i said that i'm still asking that question
31:43what is the standard what is the line what is the point where you've had enough and i'm not i
31:48understand that david stern's is not going to be the line and they're not going to get david stern's
31:52up out of here on may 11th nor am i saying that they should right now but what i am
31:56saying is that
31:57this starts with david stern's and at some point he has to say okay how am i going to correct
32:01these
32:01mistakes is there a trade i can make here in the middle of the year are you just going to
32:06rock with
32:06what you have because what you have right now isn't working and at some point the mets have to start
32:12having some sustainability and stability in the front office as i said seven guys seven heads of
32:20baseball operations since 2018 mention managers too it doesn't stop just there right because usually
32:28you've had a lot you've had a lot of change with that too and i understand a lot of guys
32:33who come
32:34in at heads of baseball operations they're going to want to get their manager in there they're going
32:38to want to get their coaching staff in there but when they changed around the staff around
32:43mendoza this offseason that told you mendoza was on the hot seat although the way we're looking at it
32:49is there a hot seat are we sure there's a high school apparently it's it's high school there's
32:54nothing he's in a he's in a walk your dexter he's in the final year of his contract your mets
33:00are
33:00giving this man a leash that's what you know those backpack leashes you give your kids like when you
33:05have like the extended button that they can like run a mile away yeah that's the leash we're giving
33:09this man please make it make sense to me is there a leash we're talking about that for the manager
33:16right and then we get back to the head of baseball operations again i'm with warty on this the mets
33:22are
33:22not getting rid of david stearns in the middle of the season this is not happening guys that doesn't
33:27wow or we finally be surprised by i'd be stunned but that doesn't mean that we're not saying that
33:33he shouldn't be held accountable nor should we look at the moves that he made this offseason that
33:37hasn't worked and so let's let's go to this because we're going to get to we're going to we're going
33:42to
33:42move to towards again okay we could criticize the moves for the offseason for david stearns we could
33:48talk about the lack of stability at the at the top of this front office and the heads of baseball
33:53operations seven seven since 2018 it's just wild it's a wild number but what do you what do you
34:00think are the better moves that stearns could have made this offseason because we like some of these
34:07moves we did we we did like some of these moves i thought hey bo bichette's gonna come here and
34:13he'll produce and i love the louise robert jr move and here's the thing i remember the day after the
34:19louise robert jr trade i was at the bo bichette press conference and i did a video with joel
34:25sherman joel and i talked about it and joel said this is the kind of risk i'm paraquoting joel joel
34:31said this is the kind of risk that you take and i one thousand percent agreed with him and i
34:36still
34:36don't disagree with that now part of the risk is louise robert jr is not always healthy and we've
34:42seen that already this season right all right but when you look here's before i toss this fully
34:49toss this question to you you said they needed to add two more starters because you shouldn't have
34:53trusted what you saw from david peterson you shouldn't have trusted what you saw from shaw
34:57manai in particular and maybe you should have been a little iffy about kodai senga right totally fine
35:04i agree with you 100 the mets did not address the bullpen adequately and that does he don't even get
35:08me
35:08started on them letting edward diaz walk because that that i never agreed with
35:16i'm gonna put one out here and i want to know what you think about this you know what burns
35:20me
35:20about the first base situation and folks i'm not getting into whether you thought peter lonzo should
35:25come back or not i was fine with that move and i'm still fine with that move today i agree
35:31here's what
35:31here's what i'm not fine with you sign jorge polanco a lot of people had concerns about the
35:38fact of his limited time playing the position and that was more than a fair concern but you see
35:44what murakami's doing out here have you seen that man hitting the ball right now have you seen him
35:51crushing it for the white socks you could have had him he's a free agent the mets had the bread
35:58to go
35:58get him they didn't do it that one seat feels like a missed opportunity you got and it wasn't that
36:06costly
36:08if we're gonna keep it a buck here wasn't that costly they could have gone that's a miss that's
36:13one move if you're talking about that could have helped this lineup and who knows maybe he comes to
36:18new york he doesn't hit i don't know probably probably let's let's be realistic because some
36:23that's fair is going to be in the comments like dex you know if the met signed him and they
36:26brought
36:27him to flush it he wasn't gonna hit and that's why there that's why there's an asterisk to this
36:31because like i can i can give you some players right now that looking back i would have liked the
36:35mets to land but it's easy for us fans or talking heads reporters what have you to make these
36:40suggestions or say oh you know i kind of told you so when in reality there's so many layers that
36:45go
36:45into negotiations that as someone who's built in this industry the past half decade knew none of it
36:50when i started i understand every of every aspect of it now from the stance of why players don't want
36:56to go to certain destinations why negotiations fall through the way that they do who is plan a all the
37:01right all the way through plan z like obviously taxation there's there's all these different
37:07layers to it so i don't want to i don't want us to approach this by saying oh the mets
37:12could have
37:12just got this guy or that guy in reality they didn't for respective reasons some may have been
37:17out of their control and i think when you have teams like the dodgers for example being a top dog
37:21the mets are also going after top players for that alone is a huge wrench if the dodgers did not
37:26exist
37:26the mets would have landed so many star players over the past couple years like so much more
37:31than what they were already doing but they they have they have a a top dog on top of them
37:36that they
37:37have no clue how to dethrone right now there's no immediate path for that to become a reality
37:41having said that i'm glad you brought up munitaka murakami uh this whole truth for just the new york
37:47mats is every other team in baseball every team has pie on their face right now looking at murakami
37:51who's essentially the league leader in home runs is playing a perfectly fine first base
37:55is like a league average base runner everything about murakami that was a massive question mark
38:00thinking he couldn't handle major league velocity hand out myself included because i bought into
38:04some really raw numbers and a limited sample size in the mpb this past year when doing my breakdowns
38:09on him shame on me for that because there's a reason why he was viewed as literally the home run
38:13king
38:13the past half decade and the mpb like he's showing you before our very eyes he's exactly what he was
38:19supposed to be as advertised as and one of the reasons as to why he went to the white socks
38:23decks
38:24is because a bunch of teams supposedly gave him a long-term contract offers but we're not good
38:29like like the av was not where he wanted and he's like let me bank on myself let me sign
38:33short term
38:34somewhere where i'm not tied down let me get my footing at the major league level and then we'll go
38:38on from there so i can get a bigger payday or you know kind of go where i actually want
38:42to go because
38:42he wasn't happy with the type of structure offers he had the white socks passed because they're like
38:46listen we don't got pressure here we have an opening spot at first base dh let's let you play we
38:51have a
38:52young uprising team and the white socks are looking like a better team than the new york mets right now
38:55you know who would have thought then you have here's here's the player that bothers me most decks
39:00okay you talk to this we're gonna talk to murakami i'm talking cosmo akamoto this is another mpb stud
39:07that i was on from literally november of last year why because he's a bit more polished he's around the
39:12age of 30 has a swing that has a follow-through so early to david's uh not david stern's david
39:17right
39:18mind you which is like okay that's awesome has been a stud and the mpb has been a multi-timed
39:23version of a gold glove there playing the hot corner complaining the corner outfields he's kind
39:28of like a cody bellinger light where you can play multiple positions for you but do it at a fairly
39:32proficient rate especially whether it's third base or first base and all off season long what did the
39:37mets need a profile exactly like that until they signed oh they did so cosmo akamoto signs a nice
39:43contract with the blue jays that was favorable he's playing out of his mind right now he's been
39:48hitting home runs essentially almost every day in the month of may thus far his glove has looked
39:52tremendous the defensive attributes he has would wipe the floor with every single defender in this
39:58mets lab right now francisco lindor included let me emphasize that lindor included cosmo akamoto
40:05would be undoubtedly the best defender in this mets infield instead what do they do they go boba
40:10for the bat when bo was the worst defensive shortstop in baseball last year they put him
40:15in a position he's never played before and while bo has not been a liability defensively obviously
40:20he has been with the back for one reason or another he most certainly has been so akamoto is the
40:27first
40:27guy that comes to mind when you mention that then you think bullpen there's a laundry list there's a
40:32laundry the blue jays gave a stupid contract to tyler rogers but why couldn't the mets do that and
40:37then you worry about the final year and a half two years once you get there david stern's not even
40:41him steve cohen has shown the ability to bite the bullet on a bad aging contract if it doesn't work
40:46out oh now we're putting our line in the sand for a guy that's literally a submarine or anomaly
40:51i'm glad you i'm glad you mentioned that particularly with tyler rogers i'm gonna cut you off
40:55wordy i'm glad you mentioned that because that goes to what you were speaking about before
41:00with sterns where it's like are you and i know we got a lot of this and you heard the
41:03small market
41:04stern's talk but it's like are you still operating in the way you did in milwaukee and not
41:09understanding the assignment and the time and the urgency of what is here now with this mets team
41:15there's 380 million payroll that didn't make the playoffs last year that needs to make it this year
41:19that's it can i throw one more name at you for first base yeah i'll throw i'll throw more you
41:22go
41:22ahead wilson contraris yes yes we could go on with this it's not just wilson contraris who mind you
41:29is a very good defensive who i would have been fine with signing if they had signed i would
41:33have been totally fine with that even yeah you know i use the name i brought up i'd have been
41:37totally fine with that wilson contraris was an exception when the rumors were first coming out
41:40that the mets had talked to the cardinals about wilson contraris of the trade earlier this office
41:44i was like that actually makes sense like he's actually looking really good defensively at first
41:49base you're not going to get the 40 bombs you get with alonzo but you're getting stability on the
41:53defensive front which is apparently what david sterns was on his high horse about all last year
41:57and then you also get a bat that's going to bring some level of stability then you try to find
42:01more
42:01the power elsewhere the mets had that thought process but they went with jorge polanco who
42:06i like polanco that's a frustrating thing when healthy i think polanco could be a nice bat for
42:10this mets team but that's the problem when healthy he had a very good year last year staying relatively
42:14healthy he's been injury played throughout his career and the mets and david stern said you know
42:18what he had 70 reps at dh last year let's go ahead and make him our most viable first base
42:24option
42:25when he's never played a look at first base in his major league career because we're so confident
42:29about the reps that he had throughout the season pre-game for the seattle mariners last
42:34like this that is so small ball mentality it's it's to a tee and then let's talk an even lesser
42:41option let's talk about a guy that the mets were connected to before the season began that i would
42:44have liked that's ty france he's not even a great player but he had a monster year defensively last
42:50year that we saw and the bat can play up more in the contact and the power mets don't get
42:55him
42:56padres get him and he's been playing good baseball for them as well ryan ahearn pits for pirates
43:01another guy maybe he wanted more small market okay tremendous glove can play first base comfortably
43:07can play the corner outfield he's batting like what 290 right now he's off to a great start this season
43:13again there were options there for the mets to add both defense and offense and they decided that they
43:18were not going to do that when you look at the bullpen before you get to bullpen the polanco move
43:24is going to be a move that i think if it does not work out at all that people are
43:29going to look at
43:29that one and say huh stern's overthought this one maybe too much maybe it's the one you overthink you
43:36talked about him getting the reps the pre-game reps um out with the mariners last year that he
43:40overthought this one i was just looking at contraria's numbers because i hadn't done it and i'm like he's got
43:44eight homers so he's got decent power production you've seen early in the season he's got 23 ribbies
43:49he's 846 ops and he would he would be the best player on the mets not named soda right and
43:56and he's any solid defender right he's solid in the field so you would have gotten all that um
44:02this wardy's get back and focus you've gotten all that but to get back and focus awardy wardy you
44:06also had some bullpen options you were talking about before we wrap yeah what there's so many options
44:11the mets gonna go there's a laundry list of bullpen options whether from the free agent market
44:16and the trade market and i understand a lot teams have reluctance to spend big in a free agency for
44:21relievers because a lot of the times they don't pan out relievers are very juggle and hide they're
44:24fickle you know i think a couple of years ago the aster's bullpen broke up and hector neary's ryan
44:30stanick and phil mayton entering the uh 2024 or 2025 obviously i wanted to and all of them were flops
44:37of signings for their respective teams stanick signed with mariners but the mets picked up for basically
44:41nothing halfway through that year because he was garbage for them phil mayton was not looking good
44:45for the temp they raised the first half the mets pick him up and they get more success out of
44:49him
44:49hector neary signs with the cubs and he's like dfaed halfway through so there are risks involved when
44:54you invest in veteran relievers that you know you don't know how they're going to perform in a
44:58different pitching lab having said that however there's a lot of guys available in the trade market
45:03there is an abundance of riches of guys out there but that's going to look to acquire garrett
45:08clementer is someone i've been being the drum on for about like two years now because david
45:11sterns has done moves with the rays more than any other team clementer would be the next version of
45:16brooks rayleigh another lefty the mets are bringing in from the rays via trade to add to their bullpen
45:20he brings more velocity he's been a stud he has like a 12k per nine a little walks per nine
45:25just returned from injury the past two weeks because he didn't pitch in the month of april
45:28but the point is is that that's just one guy that was on the radar there's a smory sport of
45:34other
45:34guys that were on that list and the mets decided we're going to bring in devon williams that made
45:38a logical sense to pair with edwin diaz which the mets unfortunately were not able to do that's
45:44what was the biggest sell job as to why he brought devon in luke weaver is not a bad reliever
45:48but when
45:49these are like your greatest certainties in the back of your bullpen there's a massive problem
45:53because these are guys especially in the weavers of the world or the waska bras bands and you know the
45:58list goes on from there i love brooks really but these are guys that are great compliments because you
46:02need something of greater certainty to really fortify it in the back end and the mets don't
46:06have that enough they don't and not only do they not have it but they're not benefiting at all by
46:12sitting on their hands with their rotation you know i was a heavy advocate for framer valdez
46:16valdez does not look great for the tigers he's had his attitude issues that's can he drill the hell
46:20out of guy a couple days ago after getting absolutely rocked in the game so like so that i get
46:24it so the
46:24people that were concerned about valdez's attitude i hear you we're seeing it with our very eyes i'm not
46:29going to sit here and defend my defense of wanting him because in hindsight it's 2020 it's one of
46:34these things this is a results-oriented business but there were still a bunch of starters that the
46:39mets could have considered heavier via trade where they if they just were willing to give up a bit more
46:43access and then what they were comfortable doing they could get somewhere you know you think of the
46:47availability of sandy alcantara if the mets really really wanted him you know you think of you think
46:52of the minnesota twins and you know separate from pablo lopez because he went down like the joe rines of
46:56the
46:56world that they were in the mix for a while like every player has a price and if you really
47:01are
47:01focused on being in a win now stage you should be able to move the needle in ways and this
47:06is where
47:06i will give credit where credit is due for as much assets as he parts ways with every single year
47:11aj preller is one of the best masterminds in all major league baseball from whether it's the ifa
47:16to the obviously internal player development and to make constant moves and what's such a difficult
47:23division with the daughters on top of them preller and the potteries continue to figure out a way
47:27because they're constantly proactive they're never sitting on their hands don't work they're always
47:34trying to do things to make it work even if that means they trade the number two prospect in baseball
47:38the way that they did last year to bring in mason miller just to help round out their bullpen like
47:43that's the kind of stuff i would love to see david stearns do because you can see the potters are
47:48having
47:49continued success as an organization staying afloat while still having a solid farm because
47:54they're so great with their scouting the mets need to have this blend of of a rotation where it's not
47:59like one thing's cut off entirely no it's a it's a steady stream of kind of cheering this out and
48:05the
48:05daughters are the greatest example of this of from player development to scouting to parting ways with
48:10young young talent and not worrying about it because they're getting such immediate help for that
48:15that current season whatever the case is so you know there's one team that reminds me so much of
48:21what the mets are doing right now texter and what this team has in common like the mets is throwing
48:25wall and hoping that sticks because the mets how they built their roster was let's call it how it is
48:31i was happy about bringing in these guys i wasn't refuting them and i'll hand up and say that yeah
48:36i was
48:37happy about these things and it has not worked out but say that at any other talking head for the
48:41most
48:42far there were guys that we were happy to bring in this past year the san francisco giants are the
48:46best example in the game today and have been for years of throwing things at the wall of guys that
48:52make no sense for their roster construction whatsoever and what do we see a team just as
48:57bad as the mets right now right around 10 games below 500 there's a reason as to why that is
49:01for them
49:02the same way there's a reason as to why that is for the mets there is no identity there is
49:06improper
49:07culture being built the way that we were hoping that there was going to be built and there's too much
49:11influx in too short period of a time you can't blow the whole thing up and then just expect that
49:16things are going to work the way that you want but when things go so down the deep end so
49:20fast decks
49:21you need to do something about it when you still have time that is why we're talking today because i
49:28don't think the mets have time the way that people games it's gonna be 80 games then it's gonna be
49:3350
49:34games and then the season's gonna be completely over just like last year i i love what you said about
49:39being proactive not reactive i'm 100 in agreement with you my friend um but the mets haven't shown
49:46to do that and and they they haven't empowered anybody to do that when you've had seven heads
49:51of baseball operations since 2018 so if you're going to be not if you're going to be proactive
49:58now is the time i couldn't agree with you it's been getting late early you can't just keep pushing
50:03this down and saying oh it's the first series it's been getting late early decks like come on
50:08that's a fair point that's a fair point you know what i take all the blame i wasn't there on
50:13opening
50:13day i had my achilles surgery on opening day it starts with you dex we're all this all this david
50:18stern's talk so it was all not locked in well the way we needed him to be it's at least
50:23we know the
50:23reason now now we can stop and screaming okay we all know blame blame me uh last thing real quick
50:28before we get out of here we got a couple more minutes with all this being said and and we're
50:34here and fans we want to hear from you too about what you think about david stern so let us
50:38know in
50:38the comments for sure but the mets did have a winning road trip warty they had a winning road trip
50:46is there anything that you saw he's already shaking his head what he's already smirking
50:52is there anything from the road trip i can't even get this question out because it's i'm kind of
50:57laughing at it that gave you any hope of a turnaround with the new york mets right now did anything
51:05give
51:05you any hope can you give the people some hope or is your only hope in somehow some way david
51:12stern's is proactive and not react probably more the latter but at the same time you kind of have
51:19to be reactive at this point if you're david stern's too because he has to react to what's happening in
51:23real time having said that the pros that you can take as positives from this five and four road trip
51:29are as follows the pitching staff is not the problem that's been a very encouraging sign i get it
51:34who the mets played but there was a lot of encouragement with how the mets pitched the past
51:38north of 10 days right now from no mcclain looking good to freddie peralta looking solid
51:42to obviously even david pearson yesterday was not a detriment after coming in after a couple innings
51:46as your bulk reliever essentially going five um you know the mets pitching staff is turning into
51:52and christian scott too he has not been pitching bad like there there are positives there for sure
51:56and that's the foundation because at the end of the day the mets get anywhere this year other than
52:00being a basement dweller they it has to start with their pitching because their pitching is exactly
52:04why they got nowhere last year let's let's call how it is the offense sucked when it came to clutch
52:08ability sure but if they just had semblance of consistency with the rotation last year they would
52:13have most certainly made playoffs and who knows what would happen from there so the pitching is a
52:17positive you could take away in large parts i'm not disagreeing with that and then the other
52:21positive because there's very few at the lap right now carson bench carson is the big takeaway for
52:27me he's really coming together like you know the mets might be a dumpster fire right now but
52:32carson ben is like i'm just gonna play my game okay he's barely baseball is better you can tell
52:37that he's hitting with authority he's actually having more quality at bats working his walks
52:40making highlight reel catches essentially every single game right now but he's starting to clutch
52:45up with runners the scoring position and having that kind of production from a young rookie
52:48is awesome because if you can get a jolt from him there should be a trickle down effect that
52:53hopefully the veterans can follow suit sooner rather than later so there aren't a lot of positives to
52:58really take away unfortunately as much as i wish that there were but are there some yes and for
53:03the fans that want to clean on those things go right ahead the only thing i have to say truly
53:07is
53:08just be be cognizant be wary of your surrounding understand this is still a team 10 games below 500
53:14okay so make the same mistake that i tend to do every single year and that's buying a fool's gold
53:18after the mets again just have like one serious sweep okay like give it pace yourself be unbelievably
53:23cautiously optimistic watch them not hoping for much but obviously if something happens great you
53:29know just settle your expectations because i think the mets how they've operated have told us the fans
53:35that we should not have expectation genuinely they have operated like a club that has put
53:41their philosophy and their dollars ahead of what is actually best which is i think giving the fans a
53:47product that we can be happy about i don't think it's a product not even i think it's not a
53:52product
53:52the fans should be happy about for sure i agree the positives you took are what i've taken from
53:57the trip i was encouraged by the pitching um i think the highlights peterson has been up and down
54:03i'm not gonna it looked nice yesterday i'm not gonna go crazy right uh christian scott uh nolan
54:08mcclain continuing to do what they do is good very encouraged by christian scott and how he's pitching
54:13super encouraged by carson bench it's what you want to see out of a rookie you know we started off
54:17with
54:18obviously the opening day spark and then you know he's had some rough times since then and
54:22now he's figuring out he will go through another rough stretch trust me it will happen but i like
54:27because i like how he's looking a little more comfortable with the plate i like that it's not
54:31affecting his defense that is huge for me that's a good sign we talked about his mental you talked about
54:36this before the season started how much you liked his mentality uh for the young man and what he's doing
54:41you're starting to see that when when a guy is not getting affected in the field by what's going on
54:46to
54:46plate when he was struggling that to me is a big sign however as we wrap here this is what
54:50i'm going
54:51to say you are what your record is the mets are 15 and 25 to 40 games they are who
54:57they are what he
54:59said don't don't forget where they are don't forget who you are also right now that doesn't mean that's
55:04who you're going to be i'm just saying don't forget who you are right now and the mets right now
55:10stink
55:10they are still the worst team in baseball the offense is putrid we know what it is so for me
55:16some nice things you saw on this trip it's a winning road trip i guess that's a start i'm
55:22kind of disappointed because they didn't take care of business against teams they should have
55:25taken care of business on ours being a mets fan yes right however for this team you know if we
55:32want
55:32to go back and look at 2024 and all this other stuff we've seen teams where it didn't start off
55:36great
55:36and they turned it around happened for the mets in 1999 we saw it in 2015 that team was middling
55:42for most of the year before you know they got it got going late um before the set's been straight
55:47we saw all this we saw in 2024 things can happen but i would not tell any med fan out
55:53there watching
55:54this team anybody's covering this team why would you get excited you'll get excited when this team
55:58gets back to 500 if they get back to 500 then you can get excited for now they got to
56:04show me some more
56:04and for now showing some more has a lot to do what wardy's talking about will they be proactive
56:10and not reactive we will see that's gonna do it for this edition of straight out of flushing
56:16dexter harry and tyler ward coming with you you know what i'm gonna say this wordy before we go
56:22i'm just hoping can we get one can we get one episode this season one week maybe it's from this
56:28homestand maybe it's after with the next time we join each other to talk about baseball we're
56:32talking about a lot more positives and negatives i just want to feel good for one of these episodes
56:37for the people i just want to that's all it would it would be great to have a positive discussion
56:41with
56:41you dex we haven't done this since spring training so it would be really nice if two you know two
56:46months
56:46in that we finally start to get it because it's better late than never i mean i think that's the
56:50whole truth with how the met should be operated it's better late than never to do things but here we
56:55are you know i digress we don't need to go on another tangent dexter always a pleasure thank
56:59you for enduring my ted talks today as you can tell a little bit of a vet session i hope
57:04i hope
57:04the fans can understand the point of view because the main take the main thing i want to say here
57:08is
57:08i got a lot of people that say to me in my chats and stuff already you constantly flip-flop
57:12on your
57:13opinions like you were very much in favor of these moves and now you're against them i'm like
57:17of course uh the the main takeaway i always say and have is it's a results-oriented business i can
57:23favor things on paper in the interim while knowing that i don't exactly know how they're going to
57:29perform yet because we have to see it with our eyes i can heavily advocate and say oh yeah this
57:34on
57:34paper you know this and that on the third i love all that but when the team doesn't perform i'm
57:38not
57:38gonna sit here like a shell and be like oh yeah you know everything's fine and danny just for the
57:43sake of me trying to make myself look right because i got pie in my face as is for looking
57:47ron you
57:48got to own up to it and know when the team is not performing well this team is not good
57:52i'm not trying to
57:53sell you guys anything i'm really telling you guys to stop being locked in the way you've been locked
57:57in and totally give you a reason to be locked in and i know that impacts my viewership i know
58:01it
58:02impacts my job but i know that what's going on with my sanity right now is this i know what's
58:06going
58:07on with yours you have the luxury of being able to tap out the way that you want to i
58:11don't dexter
58:11doesn't we'll be here every single week chopping things up all things new york we will any last thing
58:16i'll say is you can adjust to things in your opinion it's not flip-flopping when you have new
58:22information it is okay to do that there's nothing wrong with that it doesn't make you a flip-flopper
58:27it's just hey i have this new information i once felt this way i've now seen things i've experienced
58:32things i've and now i'm taking that information and i can formulate my opinion i can adjust what i
58:37felt before it was that correct that's okay and here's the thing fans are straight out of flushing fans
58:43of the new york mets we know you're not stupid we know that you guys can see what's going on
58:48we're not here to lie to the people you know they're making us feel stupid dex that's what
58:53we don't like yeah we don't we don't all right we're gonna get out of here that's the great
58:57wardy of dex family we'll catch you next time on another edition of straight out of flushing
59:01peace
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