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Andy and Randy talk about the Hawks ending up with the #8 pick and how it could change some of the decisions the Hawks front office has to make. Picking at 8 is a huge miss, and too late for the Hawks to grab a top guard.
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00:00as the hawks end up at number eight um you know better than they would have gotten if they would
00:04have stayed put right if they wouldn't have traded the pick with uh with new orleans last year uh it
00:10just sucks because like we spent the whole and like the the process behind it still tracks like
00:17it's still smart to do it and take the chance and you know you didn't get as lucky as you
00:22would have
00:22hoped to for sure but like we spent the whole year like oh and you never know right they might
00:27have the number one pick also from new orleans and then it's not yeah because new orleans got
00:32winning i know didjante came back from injury in new orleans like played pretty good down the stretch
00:38meanwhile the uh the the washington wizards i think went four and 21 in the final 25 yes i think
00:46the
00:46pacers went one in 24 yes in their final 25 yes and the at least the hawks aren't no absolutely
00:54the
00:54hawks hard to pace no the hawks i mean they didn't get lucky they didn't get screwed or anything like
01:00that now i do think it kind of you know based on where that that pick landed for the hawks
01:05i think
01:05it might have uh informed some of the different moves of the off season and they'll probably just
01:10stay there at eight and make that pick i would assume but i don't know who knows there's a lot
01:13of time before we get there yeah the pace the pacers made a trade at the deadline to get uh
01:18ivaka
01:19zubats who's a fine player like he's a decent center but like not you know not a special player
01:24yeah um and and uh the the pick that they sent was protected top four yes so if they got
01:30it which
01:31they should have because they're one of the four worst teams yes then then they would have kept it
01:34and had that pick but if it was five through nine i think then it becomes unbelievable the clippers
01:39unbelievable and it was five yes so it's the club why why you know you always got to think about
01:45like
01:45the the basketball guys why are the clippers being rewarded they shouldn't be yeah like what are they
01:50why are they in this blessed whatever yeah which is which is my whole like all right well i guess
01:56adam silver decided not to rig this one yeah because if he was rigging it he definitely wouldn't have
02:00given the clippers yes exactly with the investing now here's here's my my like my one maybe this is
02:06why he did that so then he could take it away from you think so you know just because you
02:11know
02:11because like if the investigation whatever they find in this kawaii leonard thing like they can take
02:15picks if they want they they can do whatever they want they can find them they can if they end
02:20up
02:20they're like actually you don't get that fifth pick yeah so then does indiana get it back or does
02:24just no one get it we'll take it like i mean yeah why not if no one gets it then
02:29the hawks are at
02:30seven and maybe darius acuff would still be my thing is like this like you owe the hawks all right
02:35you owe the hawks for what because you gave them the number one pick between wimby and cooper flag
02:39okay okay you owe them i know but the hawks didn't have to take zachary i know they did
02:43and we keep saying there were some guys and we keep saying that they didn't have to so maybe if
02:48they would have taken a good player then they would have been rewarded with another maybe maybe but
02:53because they took zachary richard yeah in that draft that the nba gods were like no you know you're
02:58just going to be at eight we can't have this organization screwed up twice yeah we can't trust
03:02you because you'll get the third pick and then take like take the big man from michigan or something
03:07yaxl luxembourg or whatever like you got a.j davance is sitting there staring you in the face
03:13like i like yaxl what do you think what do you think that uh that utah will give up for
03:18that pick
03:18it's a great question yeah because they want a they want a j i mean they're them manage the owner
03:23governor whatever was the money he spent to get him to go to byu yeah and not only byu they
03:28had
03:28him at like a prep school in salt lake city yes all that yeah so what are they going to
03:33try to do
03:34to because you look at washington i'm not giving up that pick but what are you going to give me
03:39yeah i mean if you make it if you make it worth my while yeah and then because i was
03:43saying i was
03:43like you got defensa you got trey you got uh uh ad like czar and some other and some other
03:50interesting young that's a nice ass squad it might be it might be yeah if they do that yeah there's
03:54a
03:54chance there's a chance that ad and trey might not be there there's a chance that they won't be
04:00there you know there's a chance that pretty good chance trey will be there i think trey will be there
04:03but i'm saying like if she's there i'm like okay and that's when i went back to the selfish mode
04:09call them y'all already made one deal call atlanta i mean i'll take a risk on anthony davis oh
04:15yes i
04:16would i'm sorry i would he's perfect he's perfect but he's never healthy yeah i mean if he was healthy
04:21he wouldn't be in washington right so i mean if he's healthy he wouldn't he wouldn't be in washington
04:26right now yeah but yeah i mean i thought you know it's it's the the fines that these teams paid
04:32for doing what they did purposely and openly tanking end up getting what they wanted yeah
04:37they would have paid you 20 million dollars and they got fined what 500 000 you did whatever
04:41they would have paid you 20 million dollars if you could guarantee them the second pick yeah or the
04:46first pick um and and and so now in this loaded draft they end up up top there and this
04:52draft better
04:53be good yeah it better be good it better be yeah because it was so it was so loaded supposedly
04:59and
04:59who knows i mean they say this and sometimes it's not right sometimes it's not kind of a down year
05:03for a draft and there's a lot of really good guys in the draft um i mean history will tell
05:07but
05:09they thought it was so loaded that they tanked so hard that the nba had to change the rules
05:14yeah that's how that's because of this draft yes that because teams desperately wanted to be up in
05:18the top four or five in this draft because they're pretty sure the top four or five guys really the
05:23top
05:23four guys i think um are kind of franchise changing guys if you get one of those i mean that's
05:28the
05:29whole deal you can't be a great team in the nba if you don't have a great player yeah you
05:35have to
05:35have like a bona fide superstar to be in contention um in the nba so what are the mocks there
05:41mocks are
05:42kind of having the hawks with uh there's a couple different guards the thing that sucks is like eight is
05:46just far enough out to where obviously you're not going to get the top four guys that are seen as
05:53like blue chippers but then like the next three are all point guards that you really want like
05:58a cuffs probably off the board uh wagler's probably off the board um now the the kid from louisville
06:05is the one that i've seen a lot of people michael brown jr okay who was hurt a lot of
06:09the year but
06:10not like uh nothing crazy was like back spasms i'm having right now oh you are oh yeah buddy yeah
06:16so
06:16so that i mean they're you know there's there's guys that'll you know they're gonna get a good
06:22player at eight if they stay at eight um it is it's a good enough draft you say if yeah
06:27unless
06:28they move up or down either way or out what do you think what does your gut tell you if
06:33they traded
06:34it i would guess that they would just trade it to try to get um it involved in a jaylen
06:39brown okay
06:40uh but i also think that pick might not be good enough to get them in there yeah you're not
06:45i mean
06:45that that's not gonna get him but if they can get like a three-way going with with i think
06:49we already
06:49know they're gonna have to because of the money that he makes one uh but i think you know when
06:54you look at where the because we didn't see the nobody saw the pelicans making that trade last
07:00year for the kid they got so anything's possible anything's possible you fall in love with a player
07:04or need or something like that because there's always a reach there's always like oh i didn't
07:09have that high on my board that that that guy and so it's a possibility that some of these guys
07:14might drop to where the hawks need but you know when i i wasn't surprised by i like i'd have
07:18been
07:18more surprised they were inside the top five i've been really surprised they were inside the top five
07:23but when they got when they got to eight all they got thought about was like yep this where yeah
07:27exactly where i didn't want them to be the great draft the great draft i said seven give me if
07:33it
07:33wasn't one two or three seven would have been fine because you were going to get one of those guys
07:37yes
07:37but now one of those guards like again like a playmaking scoring half court facilitating guard
07:43um probably probably won't be there um and i just i just really like darius acuff i know we've
07:50talked about him a lot since since the college basketball season yeah i just fear like he's
07:56about to get drafted into purgatory he's sacramento sacramento's at seven uh-huh i would hate that for
08:02him so much brooklyn's at six i would hate that for him so much um yeah that's kind of where
08:08it's at
08:09right now if the clippers that'd be great if the clippers yeah that's what i'm saying like the
08:11clippers seem like the perfect spot for him you know considering you know uh what they've given
08:16up haven't had a point guard all those different things either but i mean if you're sitting there
08:20they got garland they got garland because they trade him over for uh from cleveland he's what he's
08:23a point guard that's why they kick and he's but he's a non-defending point guard i'm not saying that
08:28about yeah about him but his root word on the street and then we didn't mention it friday they found
08:33out
08:33my man from kansas his issue with the cramping and everything because of the creatine and all those
08:38different things which it does cause cramping and all those different things especially when
08:41you're loading and all those different things you're not hydrated so good they found that out
08:45you know and he's not soft as some people might want to call him doesn't like the game or anything
08:49like that yeah but he's gonna be number two pick in the draft yeah i think there's a lot of
08:53stuff
08:53that went on with that i don't doubt that the creatine stuff certainly was a part of it but it
08:57was a
08:57it was some other stuff too yeah i think it's that he just didn't want to get hurt so he
09:01could go to
09:01the nba he was like all right if you guys insist that i play college basketball because that's the
09:07stupid rule yes um i'm ready to play in the nba right now but if you insist that i do
09:10this i will
09:11but you can't make me try hard at it and you can't make me take it all that seriously um
09:16and so i mean
09:17i don't know buyer beware i suppose i'd take him yeah if darren peterson's there at i mean he'll be
09:23there obviously at one if washington decides they want to get but then i was like that but that's
09:27why i said he's there too i'd take him i'd take him three because that's what i'm thinking like when
09:31you look at number two and one you look at why utah and then washington like again utah wants
09:36the best we understand that we understand they did this and did all that tanking for him and so
09:43like if you're watching name your price the owner wants this kid he wants him he wants him he wants
09:48all right dude consider everything he's done for this young man to get him to go to byu and that
09:52prep school like you said you'd be giving them the number two pick yes right they get the number two
09:56pick but still get that darren peterson or whatever but then i thought about that so you're getting
10:01darren peterson and trey he's more but he's more a combo guard right yeah he's more yeah he's more of
10:05a
10:05two three okay um i mean i don't know give me ace bailey i like ace bailey yeah that's what
10:11i'm
10:11saying you put him in there yeah and a pick next year but do you think he wouldn't i think
10:15he would
10:15i would ask him for the but that's what i'm saying but like again this is one of those situations
10:19where
10:19it might be it might not make good basketball sense but the owner wants him yeah so yeah ace bailey
10:25you didn't want to cover anyways we remember you had draft day yeah i know ace bailey wanted to go
10:30to washington yes that's what i'm saying which would be perfect and so i'm sure there are ages talking
10:35right now the ages are talking like man one thing i would not like it i'll tell you this if
10:40i was
10:40washington or memphis or whoever i'm not doing a draft day trade with danny age no he's a fleecer yeah
10:46he's a fleecer remember remember when he flipped uh paul defaults pick yeah and not tatum yes still
10:54understand that but you you whatever uh but yeah no nobody did no i still i mean andy even i
11:00watched
11:00markel fultz play a lot of college basketball when it happened did not like i didn't realize i didn't
11:04realize how good jason tatum was right i didn't know jason tatum was going to be this because he
11:08hadn't done that yes i didn't know but but i knew markel i knew markel fultz was there i was
11:12like what
11:13y'all might want to uh lonzo then seriously yeah they would have been better
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