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CTP (S3EMaySpecial4) BooksAuthorsWeekMay2026 Inside The Jackson MacKenzie Chronicles With Author Angel Giacomo
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We sit down with author Angel Giacomo to trace the real-life roots of her military fiction and how a trauma-shaped lead character turns into a full universe of connected standalones. Along the way we geek out on Theodore Roosevelt history, West Point details, book awards, and the strange way a simple joke can unlock a real lesson.
• Angel’s Oklahoma background and the online author connection
• The Jackson MacKenzie Chronicles trilogy and the larger character web
• Using POW and Vietnam-era inspiration to write trauma with respect
• Golden Feather and the meaning behind the eagle feather tradition
• Book awards, nominations, and what they signal in a massive market
• The Shadowlands series and a Roosevelt descendant as main character
• A neighbor’s ghost question that sparks a new story direction
• Dual Convergence: Witness To History and blending memory with history
• The Kettle Hill origin story and why names matter in research
• Publishing skepticism, query letters, and being “too close” to a subject
• Total books published and the unexpected family cookbook project
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Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We sit down with author Angel Giacomo to trace the real-life roots of her military fiction and how a trauma-shaped lead character turns into a full universe of connected standalones. Along the way we geek out on Theodore Roosevelt history, West Point details, book awards, and the strange way a simple joke can unlock a real lesson.
• Angel’s Oklahoma background and the online author connection
• The Jackson MacKenzie Chronicles trilogy and the larger character web
• Using POW and Vietnam-era inspiration to write trauma with respect
• Golden Feather and the meaning behind the eagle feather tradition
• Book awards, nominations, and what they signal in a massive market
• The Shadowlands series and a Roosevelt descendant as main character
• A neighbor’s ghost question that sparks a new story direction
• Dual Convergence: Witness To History and blending memory with history
• The Kettle Hill origin story and why names matter in research
• Publishing skepticism, query letters, and being “too close” to a subject
• Total books published and the unexpected family cookbook project
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:05I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12It looks French.
00:13It's not.
00:14It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:24Let's get on with the show!
00:25Hello, welcome to Deja Vu Week.
00:30No, that's not what it is, but kind of, sort of.
00:35Welcome to Books Slash Authors Week, May 2026, just coming out of April 2026, Books Slash Authors
00:49Week, and October Books Slash Authors Weeks of October 2025.
00:58So, yes, you guessed it.
01:01It's all about cucumbers and tomatoes and deli shopping.
01:07Yep.
01:08Books.
01:10Let's get on a guest.
01:12Joining me today will be Angel Giacomo.
01:18I, good thing I cleared it up before we started, because I would have pronounced it Giacomo,
01:25G-I-A-C-O-M-O, but Giacomo, you said, is the pronunciation.
01:32And, some full disclosure, she's a fellow author.
01:37She left a nice review for my Terror Strikes Coming Soon to a City Near You book.
01:43And, further full disclosure, I used part of that review, as well as somebody else's, in
01:48my How to Write a Book and Get It Published.
01:51You can check that out for the whys and the wherefores that I did that.
01:56But, anyway, I enjoyed one of her series, left her good reviews in the, I'm going to screw
02:07up my own joke, joke, right?
02:10All right.
02:11What was that?
02:13Oh, I can either go with Jack Ass or Jack Off, the Jack Off McKenzie Chronicles.
02:20That would be the X-rated version, right?
02:23That would be the X-rated version, yes.
02:25It's the Jackson McKenzie Chronicles.
02:29Welcome to the show, Angel.
02:32All right.
02:33Yeah.
02:34And, for the record, for the benefit of the transcript, she's laughing.
02:38We got to lighten up.
02:39Yes, I'm laughing.
02:40Just a joke.
02:42Just some fun.
02:46But, indeed, at any rate, we've never met IRL, but I kind of feel like I know you since
02:56I've read some of your books, and we've Instagrammed a bit together and whatnot.
03:02So, we've come across, well, it always happens.
03:06I hit record and I can't talk.
03:09But we've come across each other online several times.
03:14And when I saw you pop up again the other day, I thought to myself, well, why haven't I
03:20had you on my show yet?
03:24I like your stuff.
03:27So, before we get into the genesis of that series or anything like that, where were you
03:34born and raised?
03:35Where are you now?
03:37Significant places you've been between.
03:40I am a native Oklahoman.
03:41I was born in a small town in McAllister, Oklahoma, which is about 90 miles south of
03:47McAllister.
03:47In fact, there's a large Italian enclave down in McAllister.
03:52So, if you want good Italian restaurants, unpaid steak here.
03:56Some good gnocchi.
03:57Go to Crabs.
04:00Yeah.
04:01Is that Chico Barkins?
04:03No, that would be Charlie.
04:05Oh, that's Charlie.
04:06Okay.
04:07She's got a couple fur babies there.
04:09Chico was trying to get in the video shot before we started recording.
04:15So, yeah, the way my OCD brain works.
04:20Now, I'm going to have the stupid Oklahoma song.
04:26However that goes from the play.
04:28There's Chico.
04:29For those viewing behind the scenes video, there's Chico.
04:35So, at any rate, so, indeed, what was the genesis of the Jackson Mackenzie Chronicles?
04:43And I feel I know a little because we've conversed a little back and forth after I started reading
04:50them and gave the reviews.
04:52And we come to know we're fellow authors.
04:54But for the benefit of the audience.
04:57Hold on a second.
04:59Come on.
05:00Over here.
05:00There you go.
05:01So, now we got Chico and Charlie on the couch.
05:05No, Chico and Cass.
05:06Charlie's in the cage.
05:07And they're not going to be quiet.
05:10Oh, that's okay.
05:11That's all right.
05:12We'll be all right.
05:16Now, PTSD, I wrote a character that had, you know, a lot of trauma.
05:21And, you know, he's in the United States Army, West Point graduate.
05:25And he was a POW at one time and had a lot of trauma.
05:29And that basically, the trilogy that I wrote followed him through that and then through
05:38all the way through to when he finally gets married and, and he did, he did a lot of covert
05:44operations and things like that for the government.
05:48So, and which added to his trauma.
05:50So, it just, it was, it was, I based it on several people that I know.
05:56My, my, my step uncle was a POW in Vietnam.
06:01He was in the Air Force at the time, but he was a POW.
06:04I have, and then I have a number of friends that served in, including a neighbor across
06:10the street.
06:11So, that's kind of where my inspiration came from.
06:14Mm-hmm.
06:15Now, so you said trilogy.
06:17I thought there were more.
06:18Does he also appear in other books?
06:21Is that confusing me?
06:22Yeah, what I did is I wrote a trilogy series, which is, which is him.
06:25And then I went and took all the characters around him and wrote how they met him.
06:31Okay.
06:32And then I came into contact with them through, through, through the series.
06:36So, I did standalone books about, about each character as they came into play.
06:41That makes sense.
06:42And that's why I was thinking it was much larger than a trilogy.
06:46It's a much larger series.
06:47That series is a much larger series.
06:49I've kind of finished that series and started a new one.
06:52I don't know if you saw that one or not yet.
06:55But, but, yeah, those are all standalone books based on, on separate characters.
07:01Mm-hmm.
07:02Interesting.
07:03Kind of like, yeah, kind of like my Life and Living series, the Terror Strikes book that
07:10you read.
07:10And I, I had been on a million interviews saying it's not about death and destruction.
07:16It's about life and living.
07:18And one day while I'm sitting on the couch, the light bulb goes on.
07:23Duh!
07:24Let's do a Life and Living series.
07:26So, yeah, I've got the fifth one in that series going to come out in May of 2026.
07:32Now, all, indeed, like you're saying, the other books, different standalone books, different
07:39primary characters, although I do name drop names from the other books, but you don't have
07:45to read them in order.
07:48You don't have to read them collectively.
07:51Any one alone tells its own story.
07:54So, it sounds like you did the same there.
07:58Yeah, I did.
07:59In fact, the, one of those standalone books, it was called, uh, the Jackson McKenzie Chronicles
08:04Golden Feather.
08:05I entered it into the, uh.
08:07Uh-oh, that sounds like another X-rated one.
08:11No, it's based on the, uh, the Native American tradition of giving an eagle feather.
08:18Oh, oh, okay, yeah.
08:20That's where the title comes from.
08:22That makes perfect sense now, yes.
08:24That's where the title comes from, because the character is called, his name is Dakota
08:27Blackwater.
08:28He's Osage Indian, and I live in an area where the Osage Nation is, and, uh, that, uh, he
08:37joins the army.
08:38His father starts to give him a, an eagle feather for his high school graduation.
08:43He wants him to join his little oil company.
08:45And, and, and Dakota says, no, I don't want to be, you know, uh, you know, uh, work on
08:51an oil rig.
08:51And so, he goes off and joins the army, and it's, because his father takes the feather
08:55back.
08:56That's how the, that's how the book opens.
08:59And then it follows him through his army career.
09:02And in the very end, when he meets Jackson in the very last chapter, he gets a box back
09:08from the, he, he, Jackson hands him a box from his father.
09:12He gets Mrs. Mail Call, and it's that feather.
09:15Hmm.
09:15So, well, the way my OCD brain works, I made the X joke.
09:22So now I'm like, it's not a tick, has nothing to do with tickle videos.
09:27Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
09:28My audience knows my brain just goes stupid places, and I can't pass on the jokes.
09:35So, but it wound up as a semi-finalist in the Historical Fiction Book Awards, Book of
09:41the Year Award.
09:42It was a semi-finalist in December.
09:44Cool.
09:45So I was really happy with that.
09:47I wish it would have got finalists or actually one book of the year, but being a semi-finalist
09:52was good.
09:53You know, they gave it a five rating and highly recommended and, and all that good.
09:57So, so it did real good.
09:59So I was, I was really happy with that.
10:00Yeah.
10:01Some of your other books also were up for awards too.
10:04Yeah, they were.
10:05Yes.
10:06Yes.
10:06Go ahead and talk about that.
10:12Well, both In the Eyes of Storm.
10:14Peace at a Cost.
10:17And.
10:18I think I read both those.
10:20Duty, Honor, and Courage all wound up in third, getting third places in the Book Fest
10:23awards.
10:25Um, so they've all been award, you know, all, several books have, have received awards in
10:31different books.
10:32Yeah.
10:32I know like actors and actresses always say, well, it's an honor to be, but I mean, the
10:43number of books that come out in a year, I mean, compared to the number of movies that
10:51show up in a theater in a year, so the pool of movies to be nominated from is a much
10:58smaller
10:59pond than the, the lake or the ocean, uh, body of books.
11:07So indeed it should just be nominated is truly a feat out of that large pool.
11:16Yeah.
11:16I started a second series and it's called the Shadowland series, different character
11:21set, completely different deal.
11:24Uh, you ought to take a look at it.
11:25Um, where I use, I make a, um, the great nephew of Theodore Roosevelt is the main character.
11:35Bully!
11:36Bully!
11:37Yeah, bully!
11:38I'm, I'm a, quite a T, I've, I've learned quite a bit about TR, uh, but he's the great
11:43nephew and army grads, uh, West Point graduate.
11:47You can see a theme here with what I write about, but, um, but special forces and goes through
11:55all through his career until he wants, and he goes into covert operations, I mean, and
12:01goes into Europe and goes, spends a decade in Europe with his, his two, his two teammates
12:06and the, and, and where they're stopping nuclear, you know, fission materials from crossing borders
12:11where they're stopping, you know, um, hostage during hostage rescue, doing all kinds of things.
12:17Yeah.
12:18The book I just published in February and I sent it to the fiction book company is a little
12:24different.
12:24It's not a military thriller.
12:26It, it, it came from an idea.
12:29The idea came from a neighbor.
12:32She asked me something that kind of tripped me thought, why don't I go this route?
12:37And what it was is she asked me if anybody had ever died in that house because she had
12:43seen a ghost.
12:45And I, I, I just, I said no right off the bat.
12:48I didn't even think.
12:49And then later I come home and then I remembered cause I'd been living in my house almost 30
12:54years.
12:56And there was a couple there when I moved in and he was a truck driver and he died of
13:01cancer about 2006.
13:04And I didn't even remember it until later.
13:06So when she said that, I'm like, wait a minute, there really, there really was someone that
13:10died now.
13:11So I, what I did was Teddy's now teaching at West Point.
13:16He is, um, uh, got a son, he's married, um, and his mother had just died and he gets, he
13:26finally is where he's, he's quiet enough to listen and TR comes to him.
13:31His great uncle comes and starts talking to him and he doesn't believe it at first.
13:34He's a big skeptic.
13:35He's a big skeptic, you know, he's, cause his thought was, I need to go see, see the
13:40doctor.
13:40I'm having a brain tumor or something.
13:42My PTSD is, my PTSD from Vietnam is getting me.
13:45Eventually he gets convinced and it goes all the way through.
13:49They start with, the way it starts out is in 2001, Clinton presented the medal of honor
13:56to, um, Roosevelt's family because he was nominated in, at the battle of San Juan Heights
14:02or people know it as San Juan Hill.
14:05Uh, in 1898.
14:06Well, he, it wasn't, wasn't given out until 2001.
14:14So I changed the person that did it.
14:16I know exactly who actually received it.
14:18It was a grandson of Theodore Roosevelt, Tweed Roosevelt, but I had Teddy get it because he's
14:22got the medal of honor.
14:23So it's a symmetry kind of thing.
14:27So, and then it goes through it.
14:29What this is, it's not, is it's not a thriller.
14:31It's a father son growing up book.
14:34And it's dual.
14:36It's Teddy and TR and Teddy and his own son.
14:40And it goes all the way through the book.
14:41And the last scene, the last chapter is Teddy donating his medal of honor to sit beside his,
14:46his great uncles.
14:49So, I gave that to the historical fiction book company.
14:52They wrote a four page editorial review on it and gave it a four and a half.
14:56That's fine.
14:57So they, they were really, they did a really nice review of it.
15:02So, so it tells me it's, it's probably pretty good.
15:05Yeah.
15:06Well, as you're saying, notice a theme here.
15:09So if the time comes, you need help and me to send in the Rangers and Delta Force to extract
15:18you.
15:19Write a, write a romance novel.
15:22So when I hear wink, wink, nod, nod, angels got a romance novel, I'll know it's time to send in
15:30the extraction team.
15:32Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because I like historic military, that's what I write, military fiction.
15:39So even though I kind of dove off it a little bit into the, if you want to call paranormal
15:45or fantasy or whatever it is,
15:47the theme is still there because it's still the same character, Teddy, and it's based out of West Point where
15:54he's teaching at West Point.
15:55So the main, the main emphasis of the, is there's three places in the book, West Point, Sagamore Hill,
16:01and the Birthplace Museum in New York City.
16:04There's still all that interconnectivity there.
16:07Interconnectivity with the military, yes.
16:09Yes, with the military, because he's an instructor, a military history instructor.
16:14So that it's still, it's still there and people still call him Colonel.
16:20How many books total do you have out now?
16:24Do you know offhand?
16:25I know, I'm like, I'm releasing in May a short story on Kindle, e-book exclusive.
16:33I know it's my fifth in my Life and Living series, and somebody asked me, and I'm like,
16:41either my 12th or my 13th, I've kind of lost track.
16:46You have more than I do.
16:4919, I think.
16:5019?
16:5119.
16:51In that area, yeah.
16:53Yeah.
16:53One's a cookbook.
16:55Actually, one's a cookbook.
16:56Oh, and they didn't send the military extraction team over that one, huh?
17:00No, no, no.
17:00It's a family cookbook.
17:02What it was, was we had a family reunion about 20 years ago, and they put out this little
17:07PDF book of family recipes.
17:10And it had the, and it had the, and it was copies of the actual written recipes of my
17:15Italian, you know, great grandparents and grandmothers and great grandmothers.
17:20So what I did is I just took that, put some of my own recipes in it, and put it
17:24all together
17:25in a cookbook.
17:26Mm-hmm.
17:26So, you know, Oklahoma meets, it's an Italy, you know, thing.
17:31I do like that.
17:32I mean, normally, people think cookbooks are frivolous in a way, but, you know, I might
17:40have thought that 30, 40 years ago, but today I like, you know, preserving culture and the
17:47hand, and how would those recipes changed or not changed over the years and whatnot.
17:54So I, I'd like to see all kinds of people release in cookbooks.
18:00I, I, I like that.
18:01And it gives people a chance at variety.
18:04All right, let me try somebody else's recipe so I could change this up a bit.
18:10Mm-hmm.
18:11So, so this is, this isn't recipes from the mess hall.
18:16No, no, no, no, no.
18:17They would have maintained the theme.
18:19These are Italian grandmother recipes.
18:21It would have been more fun than all potato recipes from the mess hall.
18:26Yeah, these are grand, these are Italian grandmother recipes.
18:28These are not, yeah.
18:31And for the benefit of their transcript, we're laughing, we're having fun.
18:35These are jokes.
18:37These are jokes.
18:38You know, most hosts don't think to do that, but I always try to remember that.
18:44You know, someone might look, read it in a transcript, and you got to describe things,
18:52right?
18:52Yeah.
18:52We've lost that skill in a way.
18:56You and I haven't, of course.
18:57We're writing books.
18:59We understand we have to spell it all out to shape the scene and what's going on and the
19:06mood, whatnot.
19:09But someone who's been in radio their whole life and never written a book might not still
19:18grasp, although if they're from radio, TV personalities, let me say, right?
19:24Because TV, you're showing videos, you're on camera, people see you, but if they're reading
19:31something, if you've never written something, they may not think to know, well, someone could
19:38be reading this in a transcript.
19:40Maybe I should give you the title of that book, since I didn't do it.
19:43Sure.
19:44Sure.
19:46It's called Dual Convergence, a witness to history.
19:49Hang on just a minute.
19:50Okay.
19:51Well, we can mostly see it, as usually happens when someone holds a book on screen, a lot
19:57of time there's glare, and we are getting some glare, but we can mostly make it out.
20:04And again, for the 40-ish audio-only platforms of the transcript, eh, she showed her book.
20:12Yeah.
20:12That's why you should watch my show on the video.
20:16And of course, I'll cut out all the dead air parts.
20:20So that's something else you don't want, either on video or audio, dead air.
20:28It's called witness to history because he does book some of TR.
20:31TR gives him the gift and the burden of some of his memories, so he sees San Juan Hill.
20:37Or actually, it's not San Juan Hill.
20:39People think San Juan Hill.
20:40It's Kettle Hill.
20:42Kettle Hill.
20:44Near there.
20:46Yeah.
20:47It was the Battle of San Juan Heights because it was a series of elevations.
20:52People think San Juan Hill.
20:54Uh-uh.
20:55San Juan Heights is a series of elevations.
20:57And the hill that the charge, the famous charge, was on Kettle Hill.
21:03And then they moved up to Settlement.
21:05So, uh...
21:06And that, again, my OCD brain and jokes.
21:11There's a pot calling the kettle black there somewhere.
21:14Joke.
21:15Well, would you like to know why it's called Kettle Hill?
21:18Okay, sure.
21:20Did I stumble onto something?
21:21You stumbled onto something here.
21:23The primary export for Cuba was sugar.
21:28And what they did was they took sugar cane, they took sugar cane juice, boiled it down in large cast
21:34-iron kettles.
21:36At the top...
21:36And Kettle Hill did not have a name when that happened.
21:39At the top of that hill was a cast-iron kettle.
21:42And every time one of our rounds, the crag rounds, hit it, it rang like a bell.
21:47That is how Kettle Hill got its name.
21:50So, yes, you did hit upon something.
21:53Yeah.
21:57That's just the way this weird show goes at times.
22:02You never know.
22:03An odd, bald joke can lead to something educational.
22:09Educational.
22:12Have you got any other weird name stories of battles?
22:18Not right now.
22:19I am working on a follow-up book to that one.
22:22So, and it's Teddy Watches the Rough Riders, the movie The Rough Riders, with Tom Berenger.
22:29It came out in 97.
22:29Okay.
22:31Let's just say it's not very historically accurate.
22:36So, that's the book is based on that.
22:40And so, because that's the first chapter is Teddy watching the movie and critiquing the little and crap out of
22:48it.
22:48Yeah.
22:49It's almost like a Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
22:53They bring Abraham Lincoln into the future.
22:57So, Teddy sees a movie about the past and gets to address the inconsistencies.
23:06Historical inaccuracies.
23:08There you go.
23:09That's the better term.
23:11That's interesting.
23:12So, we've got a ghost in one and we kind of got a time traveler in another.
23:20He's not a time traveler.
23:21He's watching the movie.
23:23The ghost is actually in the book.
23:24The ghost is in the manuscript, hanging around a little bit.
23:27Not as much as in the other one.
23:29But it's him that he decides to write a book about the battle, the real battle.
23:36And some of the obstructions that happen in his path.
23:41Like his name.
23:45He writes, I guess I have him in one chapter where he writes a query letter to sell, you know,
23:51to get a publisher.
23:53His name is Theodore Roosevelt IV.
23:56So, and he sends in the query letter.
23:58Can you guess what happens to him?
24:01They close the door in his face, thinking he's trying to play off the name or it's a, what, unfortunate
24:09pen name or his unfortunate nom de guerre.
24:13Yeah.
24:14So, he has to do a little covert operations trade craft to get his foot in the door.
24:22Yeah.
24:23They kind of thought, well, almost a bit of stolen valor with the name potentially, yes.
24:31And he tells them exactly who he is.
24:33He writes on there.
24:34He tells them he's a tenured military, professor of military history at West Point, and they don't even make the
24:39phone call.
24:41Right.
24:42I mean, it should be, it should be easily verified and confirmable.
24:47But, yeah, a lot of times.
24:48They see the name.
24:50So, it shows a few of his misadventures, and then when he finally writes the book, he winds up with
24:56the historians telling him he's too close to the subject, you know.
25:00That can be true at times.
25:02Why is he, you know, where did you get your information and where he starts, he gets pushback.
25:10So, that's what the manuscript is that I'm working on right now.
25:14All right.
25:15And have you got, have you got a tentative release time frame?
25:21For that one?
25:23Probably May.
25:25Probably May.
25:26Okay.
25:26Probably May.
25:28So soon.
25:29Around the corner.
25:30Then we may both be dropping books at the same time then.
25:33Yeah.
25:33And then I've got another manuscript working that goes back in time for him, back to his cover-up.
25:38In fact, it goes back to the fact, to the time where he, I tell us, where he tells his
25:42class in that book where he walked Kettle, he walked the San Juan Heights, he walked Kettle Hill, and this
25:48is actually where he actually does it on a mission.
25:50So, I've got two manuscripts working.
25:54So, that one's called Sabrosa.
25:59Okay, the OCD brain again, and the jokes can't pass, right?
26:04Yeah, okay.
26:04But that's a whole different kettle of fish.
26:07It is a whole different kettle of fish.
26:09It is.
26:10It is.
26:11I just can't resist, no matter how stupid the pun.
26:20Oh, anyway, it was fun, and time's flown by already pretty quick.
26:26I try to do shorter shows at today's Twitter, TikTok attention span, you know, and the old adage, leave them
26:37wanting more.
26:39Reel them in a bit, and then if you got the fish on the hook, then they'll go and look
26:47for more.
26:48So, thank you, Angel Guacamo, spelled G-I-A-C-O-M-O.
26:56Right, well, my mom, they used to slaughter that for my mother.
27:02They would call her Geronimo.
27:05You know, that came into my head, too, and I didn't make the joke.
27:10It makes perfect sense.
27:14Do you have a website?
27:18Yeah, it's the Jackson McKenzie Chronicles.
27:21It's on GoDaddy.
27:26Okay, JacksonMcKenzieChronicles.com.
27:29Let me send it to you.
27:32Well, hold on.
27:33I might be able to get it up here.
27:37I'll cut this part out.
27:39Okay, it's the Jackson McKenzie Chronicles at JacksonMcKenzieChronicles.com.
27:47GoDaddySites.com.
27:49Oh, wow, that's a long name.
27:55GoDaddySites.com.
27:57Okay, that'll be a long one.
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28:11Okay, well, he's talking to you.
28:12Yeah, oh, I don't hear him.
28:14I don't hear him, buddy.
28:16Okay.
28:16Oh, there.
28:17Now, that one I heard.
28:18I heard that.
28:19Yeah.
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