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Believe Me - Season 1 Episode 4
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00:11John Derrick Warboys, I'm arresting your suspicion of six counts of sexual assault between 2005 and 2008, but they won't
00:18be asking you to testify.
00:20I wanted to look the bastard in the eye and tell everybody what he did to me. I wanted to
00:25have my moment in court.
00:26Mr. Warboys handed you a glass of something bubbly, and you drank that too.
00:32Because he forced me to. He's like a professional con man.
00:36You continue to constitute a significant risk of serious harm. I therefore pass down on you a minimum custodial term
00:44of eight years.
00:46I was told that the Crown Prosecution Service had looked at all the evidence.
00:51No, I can tell you that the CPS did not review the evidence in your case.
00:55They lied to me.
00:57Why didn't she flag Dave?
00:58Seems it wasn't ever recorded as a crime. It was only logged as a crime-related incident.
01:03You know, I've been looking into bringing a complaint against the police for the way they treated us.
01:07So you're asking, do I want to sue the police with you?
01:11My advice would be to pursue this under the Human Rights Act.
01:14The only problem is, is that it's never been done before.
01:17Eight years did spook me a bit.
01:19Yeah, he's not getting out.
01:20After eight years, he could apply for parole.
01:22In order to do that, he'd first have to admit to what he's done.
01:36So this is where you'll be working?
01:38Everybody!
01:39This is Carrie Simmons, who's joining the comms team today.
01:42Hey.
01:43Hello.
01:43Hi.
01:43Oh, it's actually, it's Simon's.
01:47And this is Cherry, your new neighbour.
01:50Hi.
01:51I'll leave you to it.
02:10Carrie.
02:11Yeah?
02:12Sorry.
02:12I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, but aren't you the girl who was a victim of that
02:17black cab guy?
02:20The rapist.
02:23Not sure about victim, but yes, I did do some interviews about it.
02:29I understand a lot of women came forward after that, but you have sort of put yourself out there now
02:34as like, that girl.
02:39Oh, well, I, I learnt a lot from that experience about how, you know, the media operates, so hopefully I'm
02:49a bit savvier now.
02:50Hmm.
03:07So, I printed you both a document of all the materials we've received from the Met.
03:12And as predicted, they were mightily pissed off at having to hand it over, and they even said that they
03:17had no desire in the current financial climate to spend disproportionate sums defending a claim that was many years out
03:25of date and legally had no prospect of success.
03:29Well, they can fuck right off.
03:31I couldn't have said it any better myself.
03:34Okay, so, as predicted, the IPCC investigations into both of your cases find the complaints are not substantiated, and the
03:42most serious disciplinary action that they recommended was a few written warnings.
03:47What about telling me that the CPS had reviewed my case when it hadn't?
03:54A genuine mistake.
03:56Okay, and what about not telling me that they found the drugs that he used to sedate me in my
04:02bloodstream?
04:03They actually do find that largely substantiated, but they, they do want to note that the investigating officer at the
04:09time had, um, a heavy workload.
04:12What?
04:13We now know that they didn't search Warboy's house when he was first arrested.
04:17I was told that they did, and that they didn't find anything incriminating.
04:21But actually, the most incredible revelation is of the CCTV footage of you leaving the club that night.
04:29They said that there was no sign of me on the footage.
04:33That's because they were looking at the wrong night.
04:35The 27th.
04:37Not the 26th.
04:38If they had the correct date, they would have seen that you'd left the club at 2am, and they would
04:42have known that Warboy's was lying when he said he picked you up at 3.50.
04:46The initial investigation didn't even analyse your mobile phone data, which would have confirmed when you got into his cab
04:53and where he took you.
04:56It's like a joke.
04:58I'm guessing it doesn't get any funnier for me.
05:00No.
05:01Because almost all the allegations in your case, they say, are not proven.
05:04You saying that you weren't believed?
05:05Not proven?
05:07Being told not to show emotion in your interview?
05:09Well, DC Stevens even denies ever saying that to you, so it's your word against his.
05:13The only concession is that they agree that the guy living in your old flat, Billy Houghton, should have been
05:20interviewed.
05:21And to cap it all off, they've released a statement saying that they have improved training and changed procedures so
05:28that none of this will ever happen again.
05:31It's what they always do.
05:32So, what do we do?
05:35Because, to be honest, this is only making me even more determined.
05:38Yeah, same.
05:39We need somebody who's going to take this on for us in court.
05:41And I have somebody in mind.
05:44A really top barrister.
05:49I've met this guy.
05:52Tell me more.
05:55It was an arranged thing.
05:57My mum insisted on it.
06:00I actually think she would have kicked me out onto the street if I hadn't agreed to it.
06:04What's his name?
06:05What's he like?
06:08He's quite nice, actually.
06:11Arham.
06:13You're a good Muslim boy.
06:15He wore cream chinos.
06:18Good looking.
06:21Not bad.
06:23Are you going to see him again?
06:27I don't know.
06:31I just keep thinking...
06:35What's the point?
06:38I haven't even told my family about what happened to me.
06:41I certainly...
06:43I couldn't tell him.
06:48It's like...
06:51I feel like...
06:55I feel like nobody would want me if they knew.
07:02You know, at some point, you're going to have to talk about it.
07:05And not just with me.
07:08You know, I tried that with Gav at first.
07:11Keeping it all buried, worrying about what you think of me.
07:16It's exhausting.
07:19I couldn't do it anymore.
07:22I realised I had to come to terms with what happened to me, and so I thought, fuck it.
07:26I'm going to tell you whether you want to hear it or not for my sake.
07:31And Gav's not perfect.
07:33I'm sure he'd say I'm not easy to live with either, but...
07:38But to be fair, since I told him, he's been nothing but supportive.
07:45So, maybe give Cream Geno's a chance.
07:55You see, the problem I've got with this programme you're talking about is I would have to tell the truth.
08:00I can't just sit here and tell you lies, sir.
08:04The last thing we want in a treatment programme is for you to lie.
08:10It's just not in me.
08:11So, why don't we begin with you talking about the offences for which you've been convicted?
08:15Well, that's the problem, because I didn't do anything.
08:18I'm an innocent man.
08:21And that's your position?
08:22As far as I'm concerned, any encounters were consensual.
08:25It was all just a bit of harmless fun.
08:28And as for drugging them, that's complete nonsense.
08:34See, I shouldn't be in here, and that's the truth.
08:40I know you no longer call yourself John Warboys.
08:43You now call yourself John Radford.
08:45Where is that?
08:47It's very simple.
08:50The name Warboys is dirt, innit?
08:54Because of what those women said about me, because of their false accusations.
08:58I can't even call myself by my own name anymore.
09:05How is that fair?
09:18It's really late.
09:19Why not give it a rest and pick it up again tomorrow, eh?
09:21That police officer who first looked into my case, DC Stevens,
09:24I kept asking him to talk to Billy Houghton,
09:26the guy that lived in my old flat, because he saw Warboys that night.
09:29Stephen says here that I was reluctant for him to talk to Billy.
09:33What an arsehole.
09:35That's such absolute bollocks.
09:38It says here he has never had any specialist training
09:41for investigations into rape or sexual assault,
09:44and in fact, no training at all since 1989.
09:49I'll see you in the morning.
09:53Don't be too long.
10:03Come!
10:05Ladies, can I introduce you to Philippa Kaufman?
10:11Philippa, this is Sarah, and this is Layla.
10:14Very pleased to meet you.
10:15Hi.
10:15Welcome.
10:16Now, we're about to go in with the police's lawyers
10:19for what's called a structured settlement discussion.
10:22Basically, can we resolve this without going to court?
10:24Is there a non-financial remedy we can explore,
10:27such as a public apology to you?
10:29Can I just ask, is that a possibility?
10:31A public apology from them?
10:32Not a count's chance in hell, I'm afraid,
10:34but it may help our case later on
10:37if we can at least say we tried.
10:39Right.
10:40Ladies, follow me.
10:51Twenty-nine women were attacked by war boys
10:56after he attacked me,
10:57before he was finally arrested.
11:01Twenty-nine.
11:03Those are all individual lives messed up
11:07that didn't need to be.
11:10And those are just the women that we know about.
11:14I mean, there are almost certainly more
11:16who never reported what happened to them.
11:19I was disbelieved and humiliated,
11:21and I don't believe the police
11:24have sufficiently been held to account.
11:26I think the impact of what the police did to me
11:28was worse than the actual rape itself.
11:32Like Layla, I continue to live with a sense of guilt
11:35for all the women that came after me.
11:37Even though I know it's not my fault,
11:40I asked myself,
11:41could I have done more to stop him?
11:43I'm shocked that you won't just admit liability.
11:47The fact that you are fighting this
11:51makes me feel like you still don't believe me.
11:55The police's position is that,
11:58whilst we are, of course,
12:00sympathetic to the undoubted trauma
12:02you have both suffered,
12:04we do not admit any liability
12:06on the part of the Metropolitan Police.
12:08We believe the investigation
12:10into the crimes of John Warboys
12:12was reasonable,
12:13ultimately successful.
12:15Successful?
12:16It took you five years
12:18to work out these attacks were linked.
12:20Year after year,
12:21you've left to roam the streets
12:22and attack other women
12:23when you should have been locked up.
12:30What we would like to do, however,
12:32is to invite you both
12:33to attend a police training program,
12:35present your experiences to the attendees.
12:38The hope is that this would be educational
12:41and beneficial to both sides.
12:44Right.
12:45I think we're down here, ladies.
12:47Harriet.
12:51Fucking training program.
12:53Shh.
12:58Okay, now you can talk.
13:00They've got two hopes of us
13:01talking to this load of trainee policemen
13:03about what happened to us.
13:04Bob hope and no fucking hope,
13:05and you can tell them that from me.
13:07What a patronizing load of all bullshit.
13:10Ladies,
13:11I think we're going to get along
13:12just fine.
13:22I think we're going to get along just fine.
13:42Where's DC Stevens?
13:44It appears the Met
13:45are not going to call him to give evidence.
13:47What?
13:48I suspect that they think
13:49he'll be so undermining to their case
13:51that they want to keep him away at all costs.
13:53Now, the problem is,
13:54if we call him,
13:55we won't be able to cross-examine him
13:57because in cases like this,
13:59that's the rule.
14:00So he won't have to give an account
14:02of himself in court?
14:05I'm sorry.
14:15I'm sorry.
14:16NBV told us that
14:18even after she'd been sick in the toilet,
14:20she still carried on drinking.
14:22Did this have an impact
14:25on your assessment of NBV?
14:27The CCTV footage
14:29of her falling over at the campus
14:31was entirely consistent
14:32with the actions of someone
14:33who had had too much to drink that night.
14:35I thought the whole thing
14:37was odd.
14:39I thought it was odd
14:40that an educated girl
14:42would accept a drink from a stranger
14:43in those circumstances.
14:46DSD told us she had taken
14:47some cocaine with her friends,
14:49and this showed up subsequently
14:50in her blood tests.
14:51Had she also drunk alcohol
14:54that evening
14:55before getting into Warboy's cab?
14:57Well, her friends told us
14:58they'd put her into the cab
14:59after their night out
15:00because she was so out of it.
15:04My conclusion was
15:05that DSD had not sustained
15:07any specific psychiatric injury
15:09as a consequence of the rape.
15:11She had, however,
15:12suffered a depressive episode
15:13as a consequence
15:14of how she'd been dealt with
15:15by the police.
15:17Well, following the assault,
15:20NBV developed symptoms
15:21of post-traumatic stress disorder,
15:23including nightmares,
15:25intrusive imagery,
15:26flashbacks,
15:28avoidance,
15:29anxiety and depression,
15:31poor concentration
15:31and social withdrawal.
15:34She still suffers
15:35from moderate to severe symptoms.
15:37She can be tearful
15:38and experiences mood swings.
15:41And she suffers
15:42from continuing sexual aversion.
15:45and a lack
15:46of sexual enjoyment.
15:54Are you aware,
15:56Inspector Underwood,
15:57of a guide
15:58which outlines
15:59the Met's
15:59standard operating procedures
16:01for investigative techniques
16:03in rape
16:04and sexual assault cases?
16:06I am aware of it, yes.
16:08It lays out detailed steps
16:10and considerations
16:11to be followed
16:11from a starting point
16:13of treating
16:14the victim's account
16:16as truthful,
16:17does it not?
16:19I don't know.
16:22Why not, may I ask?
16:24I just can't recall it
16:25in any detail.
16:26As a member
16:26of one of the Met's
16:28Sapphire teams,
16:30which are
16:30specialist rape
16:32and sexual assault
16:33investigation units,
16:34I find that
16:35quite an extraordinary
16:36thing for you to say.
16:38In my opinion,
16:39it's not something
16:39I consider practical
16:40to apply to each
16:41and every case.
16:43To this case?
16:46I think these policies
16:47are fine in theory,
16:49but they're not always
16:50applicable to
16:51day-to-day policing.
16:53Then why have they
16:54been set out
16:54by the Met
16:55as their guidelines?
16:58I think they have
17:00been created purely
17:02to protect the police
17:03from legal challenges.
17:05If a case is not
17:06classified as a
17:07serious sexual assault,
17:09then details of
17:09the investigation
17:10are not entered
17:11into the criminal
17:11intelligence computer
17:12database, are they?
17:15No.
17:17Meaning, no closing
17:18report would need
17:19to be done, would it?
17:20No.
17:21Is that a good thing?
17:22Honestly,
17:24an opportunity
17:25to not have to do
17:25one would be
17:26taken gladly.
17:28Was there a drive
17:29from your superiors
17:31at Borough Management
17:32to disprove
17:33allegations of
17:34rape and sexual
17:35assault?
17:37Yes.
17:38Why was that?
17:40Because if an
17:41allegation can be
17:42legally disproved,
17:43then it would
17:44improve detection rates.
17:45So junior officers
17:46were effectively
17:47encouraged not to
17:48pursue allegations
17:49of rape and sexual
17:50assault, and instead
17:50to focus on other
17:51crimes, such as
17:52burglary,
17:53which were easier
17:54to clear up.
17:54Is that right?
17:57Broadly speaking,
17:58yes.
18:00Coming now,
18:01DC Coldham,
18:02specifically to the
18:03case NBV.
18:04Even though her
18:05case bore all the
18:06hallmarks of a drug
18:06facilitated sexual
18:07assault, she was not
18:08treated as such,
18:09was she?
18:10Personally, I
18:11believed her account,
18:12but I knew there
18:13was no prospect of
18:14the case being reopened
18:15once the forensic and
18:16toxicology results had
18:17come back as
18:18inconclusive.
18:18even though there
18:19were still many
18:20important leads
18:21still to be
18:21followed up.
18:22Yes.
18:23So under pressure
18:24from on high,
18:26her case was not
18:27recorded as a
18:27serious sexual assault,
18:29supervision from more
18:30senior officers did
18:31not occur, and her
18:32case was not entered
18:33into the databases?
18:35No.
18:35And the case was
18:36cleared up in three
18:37months.
18:38No case closure
18:39report, no detailed
18:41report entered into
18:42the system, and the
18:43borough's clear-up rate
18:44was thereby improved
18:45since the case was
18:46not left as
18:47unsolved.
18:49Like I say, that
18:51was the situation
18:52at the time.
19:03Thanks.
19:04I can't believe you're
19:05still waiting on a
19:06judgment.
19:07Well, this one'll be
19:08born before we hear.
19:09So, how's life then?
19:12I'll be honest, things
19:13are not great with Gav.
19:14Hmm?
19:15It's me.
19:16It's pushed me away.
19:17I know I do.
19:19I just find it so hard
19:21to really let go
19:23emotionally, you know?
19:25He's always been
19:25pretty understanding
19:26though, hasn't he?
19:27Yeah, and he still is.
19:30Sexy shit.
19:32I hate being naked.
19:36I actually hate opening
19:37my fucking legs,
19:38to be honest with you.
19:40Must be like going to
19:41bed with a slab of
19:42marble.
19:43At least he got you
19:44pregnant.
19:45Yeah, I got a bit
19:46of junk that night,
19:46which helped.
19:49Let's just say,
19:50it wasn't entirely
19:51planned.
20:04morning, what?
20:18I was going to add to it.
20:20I got a good
20:21Yeah, I got it.
20:21I got it.
20:21I got it.
20:21The kings of glory shall ring eternally.
20:30Let us pray.
20:34Lord, comfort and heal all those who suffer in body, mind, or spirit.
20:38Give them courage and hope in their troubles,
20:40and bring them joy and salvation.
20:43In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
20:47That those who face difficult times will find the strength to prevail.
20:50In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
20:54For the grace this week to live by faith in every circumstance of life.
20:59In your mercy, Lord, hear our prayer.
21:07Hello. Hello, Sarah.
21:10Hi.
21:12Hey, what's happening?
21:13I've just got the phone to Harriet.
21:15Yeah. The judge said there was clear evidence that I had suffered significant harm over a long period, and with
21:23you.
21:23But for the failures of the police, you wouldn't have been raped at all.
21:30We won.
21:31No way.
21:32We won.
21:34And they've awarded me 22 grand, and you 19.
21:40Fuck.
21:42I'm like, I'm...
21:44I can't, I'm...
21:45Harriet said she's sure they'll appeal, but...
21:48We should enjoy today.
21:53I'm glad you picked up.
21:55So, tell me.
21:57Did he ask the question?
21:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:00I said yeah.
22:02Layla.
22:03I'm so happy for you.
22:05Yeah, Mom and Dad are throwing us a party.
22:08It's...
22:08All right.
22:09Well, go enjoy it, lovely.
22:11We'll go for a coffee soon.
22:13Yeah.
22:14Yeah, and I can meet your new baby.
22:16Yeah.
22:17All right, I'll see you soon, yeah.
22:18Okay, see you soon.
22:32There you are.
22:35You okay?
22:38The happy twos.
22:44They're all waiting in the garden.
22:47Okay.
22:51Just one sec.
22:52Mm-hmm.
23:14I love you.
23:40I am Dr. Crisati, a consultant, clinical and forensic psychologist,
23:46and I'm here, Mr. Radford, to review your progress.
23:51Okay.
23:53Okay.
23:58Well, I told the other psychologist that I met recently that...
24:04the time had come for me to change my stance.
24:08I've withdrawn my application with the Criminal Cases Review Commission to overturn my convictions,
24:12and I've decided to accept full responsibility for all my offences.
24:19Can I ask what has brought about this change of heart?
24:23Him.
24:26Up there.
24:28The Lord Jesus Christ, he's shown me the way.
24:34I felt so guilty, I didn't know who to speak to.
24:39And then I found religion, and I decided that, you know,
24:42if I'm going to follow the Lord, I've got to be honest and admit to what I've done.
24:50Let's talk about what happened.
25:02I always felt guilty about my offences.
25:07Yeah, but to begin with, I maintained some hope that my convictions would be overturned
25:11and I might be released.
25:14But I can see now that this is unrealistic, and so I've decided to use this as a motivation
25:21for me to take responsibility for what I've done.
25:28You know, to let these women know how sorry I am.
25:36And to be honest, you know.
25:40They talk about everything.
25:47I hope that they will be okay and get on with their lives.
25:51I really do.
25:54I'm sorry, can I get a tissue?
25:59Sorry.
26:02Do you think you're ready to start the sexual offenders treatment programme?
26:10That's what he's telling me.
26:15I'm sorry.
26:20Here they are.
26:22I'm sorry.
26:24I'm sorry.
26:28I'm sorry.
26:30How are you both?
26:32We'll get them on to sleep, but, yeah.
26:34We're good.
26:36I'll go and make some tea.
26:38Shh.
26:39Shh, shh, shh, shh.
26:44How is he looking smart?
26:50Can I hold her?
26:52Ah.
26:53Can I?
26:55Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
26:58It's a lot of food.
27:00It's a lot of food.
27:00It's a lot of food.
27:06It's a lot of food.
27:12You know I've only ever wanted the best for you.
27:17You know that?
27:19I know.
27:21I know.
27:24Adam is a good man.
27:27Yeah.
27:30He is.
27:48You got knocked back, then?
27:51On your parole?
27:57I told him about finding God.
28:01Ah, put me hands up to it all.
28:03Told him how remorseful I am.
28:06That only get you so far, mate.
28:09In my experience, you need to give him a reason.
28:12What do you mean?
28:14A reason why you started doing what you were doing in the first place.
28:17You can't do that.
28:19They're never going to believe that you know how to stop.
28:25She was an old girlfriend, you know.
28:27I don't really want to talk about her.
28:29I mean, can I?
28:31You know, talk about someone completely innocent.
28:34Whoever this person is, they can be anonymised in any reports.
28:42Well, she left me.
28:45When was this?
28:46It was about, er, summer's time, 2005.
28:52And I was really cut up about it.
28:54You know, and then we were sort of on and off, and...
28:58And then I remember, about a year later,
29:00she phoned me and asked me to come and pick her up
29:03and take her back to mine.
29:04And I was excited about this.
29:06But when I got to this bar, she was absolutely hammered.
29:10Totally drunk.
29:13All I'd like to do was take her home to her mum's.
29:16And I was on me own again.
29:18I kept absolutely furious.
29:32That night, I went looking for someone.
29:36That would have been the first one.
29:37That was around September, October 2006.
29:46And then it just grew from there.
29:49The truth was, I only gave them half a tablet
29:51because I didn't want to do them too much harm.
29:56And then when they were out of it, I'd just...
30:01Touch their leg or look up their skirt
30:04as I sort of...
30:07Played with myself.
30:09I only actually put my penis inside one of them.
30:15That's all.
30:17Maybe...
30:20Four seconds.
30:21I mean, I don't blame her, my ex.
30:24You know, I take full responsibility for me actions.
30:31I can see now that that was the trigger.
30:38Do you want cereal or toast?
30:41Uh...
30:43Toast, please.
30:44There you go.
30:46You take that.
30:48Hey!
30:48Oh, no!
30:49It's toast falling.
30:51Hi!
30:52Hi!
30:54Hi!
30:54No, no, no, no.
30:55Hi, no, no, no, no.
30:57Good.
30:58Sounds good.
30:58Jack, can you take over a sec?
31:00Dance before you eat.
31:02Now let's dance!
31:06Hey!
31:06Hey!
31:08Hey!
31:10Hey!
31:10Hey!
31:10Hey!
31:11Hey!
31:19It can't be true.
31:21It can't be true.
31:21It's the same as before.
31:22If we just find out about it from the telly.
31:24They all said they were confident that he wouldn't get out of prison.
31:27It's bullshit. It's just motherfucking bullshit.
31:31I can't think he's attacked over a hundred women.
31:34How can anyone think it's safe to let him back out on the streets?
31:39Because we are not allowed to know the reasoning,
31:42the biggest problem we have is trying to understand why they approved this.
31:46Because they live on Mars?
31:48But why weren't we even consulted?
31:51Because the system doesn't take into account the views of the victim.
31:54When these things are decided, the criminal gets a place at the table,
31:58the parole board, the Ministry of Justice do too,
32:00but the views of the victim are not even considered.
32:03So we just have to stand by and watch once they let him out?
32:06Well, no. We have to bring pressure on David Gawke, the Justice Secretary.
32:10We'll get him to order a judicial review of the decision
32:13on the grounds that it was legally irrational to release war boys.
32:16And we have to move fast.
32:18One thing we have been able to find out is that as late as 2015,
32:23he was denied transfer from a high-security prison
32:26to a lower-security open prison
32:28on the grounds that he posed an unacceptable risk.
32:31Yet two years later they're saying he's suitable for pro...
32:33That sounds pretty irrational to me.
32:37The thought of him being released in just a few weeks is...
32:45It...it's terrifying.
32:47Listen to me.
32:48We are going to fight to stop that from happening.
32:51We are going to scrap and we are going to fight.
32:54We've got to go.
32:57Leila?
32:57No, they'll be wondering where I am.
33:00I'll go after her and make sure she's all right.
33:06But this is a fucking disgrace.
33:14You know, I've heard there's a lot of people
33:16who are very unhappy with today's decision.
33:19Whispers that Labour and the Lib Dems
33:20might even call for an inquiry.
33:23Well, that will certainly shove it under David Gawkes, Hooter.
33:26We need to keep it there.
33:28We need to make a lot of noise.
33:30Yes, and quickly.
33:32Well, I had a very interesting phone call
33:34from Carrie Simons this afternoon.
33:36She gave evidence of the original trial?
33:38Yes, I remember her.
33:39Well, now she works for the Conservative Party press office.
33:44And she phoned to say how angry she was
33:46and to offer her services.
33:48Oh, yeah.
33:49Yeah, so I think she'd be very useful in lobbying David Gawkes.
33:55War Boys never once showed remorse.
33:57He described his behaviour as banter
34:01and insisted that the women accusing him of rape,
34:05who took to the stand in tears,
34:09shattered by the experience,
34:11had in fact wanted to have sex with him.
34:14The decision to free him was made a few months ago
34:16by a parole board panel.
34:18We don't know who made up this panel
34:20and we don't know how and why
34:22they came to this decision.
34:25Hi, David.
34:27Just two minutes once you're done.
34:29Oh, I'll catch you.
34:30Right.
34:31I just wondered if you might want to read
34:34this op-ed piece that I've written.
34:35What's it about?
34:36The War Boys Parole Board decision.
34:38You know that decision was based on the reports
34:41from several psychologists.
34:42I think he's pulled the wool over their eyes.
34:47You might not know this,
34:48but as a young woman,
34:49I was drugged by him in the back of his taxi
34:52and I just thought, full disclosure,
34:55as Justice Secretary,
34:56you should know what I've said here.
34:58Okay.
34:59I'll have a read.
35:12Moving down to Belmarsh then, John.
35:15Not long to go now, is it?
35:18From there,
35:20by the grace of God,
35:23I'll be released.
35:25Free men.
35:38I would just like to say
35:40that I was just as surprised
35:42as you all probably were
35:44when I was asked to take this job on,
35:46but I was pleasantly surprised.
35:48I promised to give it my all.
35:57Congratulations.
35:58Youngest ever head of comms.
36:01You've done so well.
36:05I do have just a small fly
36:08I must put in the ointment, though.
36:10David Gork told me that the MOJ
36:11will not be pursuing a judicial review
36:13of that parole board decision
36:15on John Warburg's.
36:16What? Why not?
36:17He said something about legal advice.
36:20But then he's going to get out.
36:22Fuck! Shit!
36:23Carrie.
36:25I'm telling you this as a friend, okay?
36:28But people have been saying
36:29you've been a bit distracted lately.
36:30Well, then they can mind their own business.
36:32Come on.
36:33I'm just saying don't let this stuff
36:35get in the way of what's really important.
36:36Okay?
36:38And why you're actually here.
36:41Your career is taking off, Carrie.
36:44Don't blow it now.
36:47I really thought David fucking Gork would get behind us.
36:50It's so disappointing.
36:52My guess is he's looked at all of this
36:54and he's thinking his department
36:55doesn't come out of its milling of roses.
36:57So what can we do now?
36:58We can push for a review of the decision
37:00on behalf of Sarah and Layla.
37:02Can we do that?
37:03I'm not sure private individuals
37:05will have the legal standing,
37:06but we can certainly give it a try.
37:08Money is going to be a problem, though.
37:09The rules have changed since the human rights case.
37:11It's now no longer possible
37:12to take out insurance against losing.
37:15Meaning that Sarah and Layla
37:16would be personally responsible
37:17for the parole board's legal costs if we lost?
37:19Precisely.
37:21We need to raise money fast,
37:22but by going against the government,
37:23you could be risking your career.
37:27I'm on it.
37:29Yes, it is a letter
37:30that I've been asking London MPs to sign.
37:33A lot of them already have,
37:34protesting against the parole board's decision.
37:37The women he attacked are fighting
37:39to have his parole overturned,
37:41and maybe this is something
37:43that your paper could take a more detailed look at.
37:46And hey, if you do decide to print,
37:48don't forget to include the details
37:49of the crowd justice link
37:51at the bottom of your story.
37:52Okay, well, I'll talk to my editor
37:53and we'll keep you in touch, all right?
37:55We're still being contacted by women
37:57who say that they are victims of war boys.
37:59In the last few days,
38:00I spoke to a woman in Bournemouth
38:02who's convinced that eventually more victims
38:03will come forward from that area
38:05because he also drove his cab down there.
38:07How about the appeal for donations
38:09to help with legal support?
38:10Well, we've been completely overwhelmed
38:13by the level of support that we've received
38:15since opening our crowd justice page.
38:17The donations have been pouring in,
38:20for which we are incredibly grateful.
38:33Rehabilitated?
38:34He denied everything until nine months
38:36before the first time he could apply for parole.
38:38Hmm, and then he found God.
38:40Right, conveniently.
38:41Just in time for parole, he saw the light.
38:46Only gave half a tamazepam.
38:48Says he only raped one woman.
38:52Penis inside vagina for four seconds.
38:54Wait a minute.
38:55Yes, here.
38:57Says he only started offending in 2006
39:01after the breakup with his girlfriend.
39:04Yes, I'm just saying that.
39:06Oh, thank you, Lord.
39:20Come on, you two.
39:21I'm just really late.
39:22Keep going.
39:24It's going to be really good for Connor, okay?
39:27My older bell, wait there.
39:29Okay.
39:33There he is.
39:34It's exciting.
39:38Right, be good.
39:39All right, guys.
39:40Go on, run up.
39:40There's cakes up there.
39:42Bye.
39:44Thanks so much for doing this.
39:46It's just right.
39:46I knew it'd happen on half-term.
39:48Jack's with his mate, so...
39:50It's not a problem.
39:50You know I'm happy to help.
39:52How's things at home?
39:54Um, not great.
39:57Gab's actually moved out now, so...
39:59Okay.
40:00Sorry to hear.
40:04Anyway, I'd better get go.
40:05I thought I'd be late, but...
40:06Thanks again, and I'll see you later.
40:08All right, good luck.
40:15Hi.
40:16Hi, I'm running late.
40:17Are you nearly there yet?
40:20I'm sorry, I didn't get on the train.
40:24I'm not coming down.
40:25I just...
40:26I suddenly thought...
40:28the idea of seeing him again.
40:31I just can't do it.
40:33Yeah, I...
40:33I don't know how you can face
40:35going back to that horrible time, Sarah.
40:37Because I want to have my moment
40:39in court with him today.
40:41Sorry.
40:42I know I'm letting you down.
40:44No, you're not.
40:45Listen, if that's what you want to do,
40:47what you need to do,
40:49fuck it.
40:50Fuck them.
40:51Whatever works.
40:52I am sorry.
40:55Stop apologizing, okay?
40:57Okay, listen, I'm gonna have to go with us.
40:59I'll be late, but I'll let you know how it goes, okay?
41:00Okay.
41:01Hey, I'll vibrate.
41:03Hey, I'll vibrate.
41:18Shit.
41:24Go to court's justice, please.
42:02My lords, this is a unique case in which someone who has been granted his freedom has then had it
42:10taken away from him.
42:12If ever there was a case for the use of the judicial review jurisdiction to be exercised with the greatest
42:19care and anxious scrutiny, this is that case.
42:31We say that Mr. Warboys has been seriously minimizing the nature and extent of his offending and has been dishonestly
42:39manufacturing his explanation.
42:41Furthermore, we say the board has failed to take into account critical evidence, evidence which it was not in its
42:47discretion to ignore, evidence which, if it was going to reach a lawful decision, it had to take into account.
42:55In the notes of the sessions attended with the psychologists, Mr. Warboys admits responsibility only for those offences for which
43:05he was convicted.
43:07A total of 19 offences carefully selected by the Crown Prosecution Service, as you can see from their statement, so
43:15as to not overload the indictment.
43:18These offences were against a total of 12 women, and Warboys says his offending began in September-October 2006.
43:29But let's look then at what evidence is out there, because that evidence paints a very, very different picture to
43:38the one presented by Mr. Warboys to the parole board.
43:41The police's conclusion, having investigated all of the offences that resulted in the charges brought against Mr. Warboys,
43:49is that he committed offences against a total of 105 women.
44:00We submit, this is very powerful evidence, that Mr. Warboys' offending was more extensive than anything he has admitted.
44:10And, crucially, we can see from the evidence given to the police by the witness, DSD, we can see that
44:20his offending went back to, at the very least,
44:25May 2003, that is more than three years before the date, he says, is when he began offending,
44:35which blows out of the water the parole board's assessment that he has taken full responsibility for his offences,
44:41or that he has been open and honest in his account.
44:49THE END
46:25Happy birthday.
46:30Mama!
46:35Look at that.
46:38Mama!
46:39Mama!
46:39Mama!
46:40Mama!
46:41Mama!
46:42Mama!
46:43Mama!
46:44Mama!
46:45I don't know.
47:18You okay?
47:23There's something I've got to tell you.
48:14There's something I've got to tell you.
48:44There's something I've got to tell you.
48:51There's something I've got to tell you.
48:54There's something I've got to tell you.
48:55There's something I've got to tell you.
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