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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:23We have been screaming justice for Rob Cobain.
00:28Screaming it. I'm screaming it. Justice.
00:32He was an artist. He worked, supported his kids.
00:36No criminal history whatsoever.
00:39And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment
00:42for no reason that we have been able to find.
00:45It's not just a homicide case anymore.
00:48I take it personal that this is sitting unsolved on my name.
00:54Detective Schaefer, he was passionate about this case,
00:57but he got promoted to put back on the road.
01:00So, I'm gonna pick up where he left off.
01:05He was the people of life.
01:07No matter where you saw him, he was smiling.
01:09He was always encouraging.
01:11And his biggest thing was unity.
01:14He loved music and he loved his kids.
01:17That was his life.
01:18He was a fan of all music.
01:21Kurt Cobain, that was one of his idols.
01:25And he took that moniker and thus Rob Cobain was born.
01:29He was just a phenomenal artist.
01:31But as a father and an artist, this story got cut short.
01:36He definitely did not deserve this.
01:39We're all just so heartbroken.
01:41I must be Captain Planet.
01:43I feel the Earth's pain.
01:45My little heart is damaged.
01:46Heartbroken.
01:47Heartbroken.
01:48Woo!
01:49I'm heartbroken.
01:50Heartbroken.
01:51Woo!
02:05Heartbroken.
02:09In North Charleston's Forest Hills neighborhood,
02:12the property manager of an apartment complex calls 9-1-1.
02:199-1-1, what's the address of the emergency?
02:22Lowell Drive.
02:23Somebody reported that the sliding door was shattered
02:27and I'm right outside of the window or the door.
02:31And I can see somebody's inside sitting up on the couch.
02:36His head is back and there's blood all over the place.
02:40Okay, I'm getting help on the way.
02:51Is that your apartment?
02:53No, it's the apartment.
02:54Do we know who his apartment that is?
02:55I don't believe it's the person that's in the apartment.
03:021-15 dispatchers.
03:04Fears to be a shooting.
03:05I'm clearing the apartment.
03:07North Charleston Police Department!
03:14AEMS, you guys are clear.
03:18Check on him.
03:23I got a pulse.
03:25Sorry.
03:26Okay.
03:271-15 dispatch.
03:29This is going to be confirmed.
03:2910-7.
03:31All right, copy.
03:32Detectives are en route.
03:442-30.
03:452-30.
03:452-30.
03:45All right.
03:462-30.
03:472-30.
03:47The tape's off here.
03:532-30.
03:582-30.
03:592-30.
04:01This next door neighbor at 5 a.m. heard two bangs.
04:06Two loud bangs.
04:06She thought it was a car accident or whatever.
04:09Around 10-ish.
04:10She noticed the glass was shattered.
04:13And then at that point, she called for the maintenance.
04:16When the maintenance man spotted the victim, he contacted the property manager, who called 9-1-1.
04:22Robert Brown.
04:23That's what the mail on the floor in there says.
04:26And that looks like.
04:3140-year-old Robert Brown III, known by his stage name, Rob Cobain, was a local hip-hop artist who
04:38also worked at a jewelry store.
04:41Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son with his ex-wife and a 13-year-old daughter from
04:46a previous relationship.
04:54The front door was locked when I got here, dead bolting.
04:56I made entry through this hole right here.
04:58If the wares were open on the side, that was like that when we got here.
05:14Rob was shot four times.
05:17In the back, legs, and ankle.
05:22He's using his underwear.
05:25Was this a PS4?
05:29They were maybe playing the game.
05:33Oh, there you go right there.
05:35So, one shell casing.
05:37The team finds a shell casing on the living room floor.
05:42There's everyone back there, too.
05:45Another one behind the couch.
05:47Facing.
05:49And one in the front hallway.
05:56Whoever it was, he was very close when they started shooting him.
06:00There's blood all over there.
06:02There clearly was a scuffle at the door.
06:05Guesses that him and someone else were fighting, and that's when the shots started going off.
06:09Maybe he's trying to flee.
06:11Could have been shooting at him and put one through the glass.
06:14And then from there, he had collapsed right in front of the couch.
06:20There's a bag of weed.
06:24His phone is in his back bedroom.
06:29The original responding officer said he noticed that the front door was bolt locked.
06:34The window was open.
06:35I'm thinking that's how they went in.
06:37Could be.
06:38Not impossible.
06:40There's a possibility this was just a random burglary gone wrong.
06:45My personal opinion, somebody else was let in the house.
06:49Maybe a possible girlfriend involved or something, because he's in his underwear in there.
06:56And I don't think he would have been, like, hanging out with one of his buddies or another dude in
06:59there, like, half-naked or whatever.
07:03Right now, we have to canvas for video.
07:06Hopefully get lucky, because right now we don't have a lot to go off of.
07:11It's gonna be a tough one.
07:19Can I ask you a question real quick?
07:21Did you hear anything earlier this morning?
07:22Any shouting, arguing, or anything like that?
07:24Mm-hmm.
07:25Okay.
07:26All right, well, I appreciate you guys.
07:29Has anybody already talked to you?
07:31Okay.
07:36Everybody must be at work.
07:41Then...
07:42Okay.
07:44One of Rob's neighbors comes forward.
07:46His ex-wife know that they just got recently divorced.
07:50He has two kids from Germany, and then he has an autistic son.
07:55Okay.
07:56Did they live there?
07:57Sometimes.
07:58Rob's car was broken down, so his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife so she could get a
08:03ride to school.
08:05And you don't know him to have any drama or beef with anybody like that?
08:08Mm-mm.
08:09He did live with these two individuals.
08:11They lived in his daughter's room.
08:13What did those two people name that he would live with before?
08:17I have nothing.
08:18They're just a girl and then a man.
08:20Black, most black.
08:21Okay.
08:22He did kick him out.
08:24When was that that he kicked him out?
08:26Two and a half of my son.
08:28Okay.
08:38Two hours in.
08:40A neighbor's next door.
08:41Made a call to her, so she came over here to give us a little bit more information.
08:46Okay.
08:47Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene.
08:49Hello.
08:50I'm Detective Shaffer.
08:51My name is Shaginish.
08:53So what's your relationship to Robert?
08:56We're friends.
08:57Okay.
08:58Has there been any drama recently in the house over there?
09:01Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that?
09:04No.
09:04That's why we were trying to figure out because he honestly, he's not that type of person.
09:08Right.
09:08He's really a happy-go-lucky guy.
09:10Mm.
09:11So...
09:12How's the relationship with the ex-wife?
09:13Is everything good?
09:14Yeah, they're fine.
09:15They recently just signed their papers.
09:17Okay.
09:18But it wasn't a heated divorce.
09:19It wasn't bad.
09:20Do you know him to be involved in anything bad like drug dealing or anything like that?
09:24Narcotics?
09:25Anything to that extent?
09:26No.
09:27He smoked a little weed.
09:28Okay.
09:31What about friend-wise?
09:32Who else would Rob hang out with?
09:34He was a ladies man.
09:35He hung out with different girls.
09:38He just had been going through some things, you know?
09:41Going through a new divorce.
09:42Yeah.
09:42Trying to figure it out.
09:44Okay.
09:45This summer, he allowed people to live with him.
09:48She gives to Schaefer the names of Rob's former roommates.
09:51Did everything work out when they got moved out or was it like a bad move out?
09:55It wasn't that good.
09:57It wasn't that good?
09:57No.
09:58Okay.
10:01This is wild.
10:02No.
10:02No.
10:02I know it's a lot for everybody.
10:05Thank you, man.
10:06You're over there.
10:11You're over there.
10:11I don't know.
10:15As word of Rob's murder continues to spread…
10:18He works here.
10:19He's my watchmaker.
10:20He fixed his watches for me.
10:23The manager of the jewelry store where he worked shows up on scene.
10:36She says, last night, a woman picked Rob up from work.
10:45What kind of car are they left in?
10:46I don't know.
10:50So he left last night from work for the girl.
10:55But that's the last time she saw him.
10:59Then...
10:59You see that camera that's in the living room?
11:01Another possible break.
11:03There's a camera here.
11:05Rob's neighbors remember that he has a security camera in his living room.
11:09Okay, let me go check that out. Give me one second.
11:17If that ring camera was on during the whole incident and just recording things, which would tell us exactly what
11:22happened and who did it, that would be huge.
11:35The camera's on because he's getting ring notifications on his phone.
11:40So we have high hopes for that.
11:48We're hoping it's been on since this morning, which means that it just would have been activating whatever happened inside.
12:03Here's how we can do that.
12:04This is where you're supposed to jump and charge them all and going over.
12:05My name is George Robert Vantine Jr.
12:07I have been with the North Charleston Police Department for 23 years.
12:12I spend just shy of five years in the person's unit working violent crime and homicides
12:20I'm honored with working in cold cases now the department set up this unit to help bring justice
12:26to the victims and the families where the case agent has moved on they've either been transferred
12:31out or they retired and the case still isn't solved detective Schaefer is transferred back
12:38to the road so we're gonna continue looking into Lowell Drive and pick up where he left off it looks
12:44like in the report when Schaefer left the crime scene that night his head was spinning probably
12:53had half a dozen potential motives it could be a burglary gone bad because there is a window
13:00partially opened there's been indications that he is a ladies man he's in his underwear so it could
13:09be something with a lover's quarrel the ex-roommate may have been involved there was some type of
13:16argument and then there is a female that picked him up from work and it was the last person to
13:23see him
13:24once Schaefer's goes home even the ship starts running with it trying to get into the victim's
13:30phone maybe there's some indication of who that female that picked him up from work may be
13:35yeah
13:36yeah
13:44yeah
13:45seven hours in
13:46Sam's got something
13:47mm-hmm
13:49digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel was downloading Rob's phone
13:53so
13:53these are all things very different
13:55I understand
13:56I understand
13:56yeah
13:57and found a text conversation between Rob and the woman who picked him up from work last night
14:04Get her in here, see what she knows.
14:18Two hours later, Amanda agrees to talk.
14:34I sent my husband over there after he got off work.
14:39Okay.
14:41All right, so you saw him yesterday, correct?
14:43Yeah, I picked him up from work yesterday.
14:45It was about 10 till 6,
14:47and we went to the Publix to get a sandwich.
14:57And once you guys were there, what happened?
15:00We smoked for a little bit,
15:03and we watched the OMTV raps,
15:05and we ate our sandwich,
15:08and we smoked some more.
15:10I don't know, like, why her husband would think it'd be cool
15:13if she goes to some other dude's house
15:15and smokes weed with him.
15:16Is he, like, jealous of their relationship?
15:19It's weird.
15:22And I took off about 9.30.
15:24He walked me outside.
15:27We didn't spend too much time outside
15:29because it was cold.
15:31He said, I love you.
15:34The last that I heard from him was last night
15:36when I told him I'm home,
15:37and he responded to the little hard thing.
15:40And roughly how long is the drive?
15:41About an hour.
15:43Okay.
15:44And did he mention having any plans afterwards?
15:48No.
15:49I think he was gonna go to bed.
15:51He had to work today.
15:53How did the two of you meet,
15:55and how long have you known him?
15:56Since April of 2016 in Northwoods Mall.
16:01She says she and Rob have been friends for eight years.
16:04We had a conversation about Prince, the singer,
16:08and, uh, we've just been friends ever since.
16:17Have you and Rob ever had, like, a sexual relationship?
16:22No.
16:23So it's just friends?
16:24Exactly.
16:24Okay.
16:26Is he, um, he's pretty cool with your husband?
16:28Oh, yeah.
16:29Absolutely.
16:36What was Rob wearing when you saw him last night?
16:41Um, I think it was a black, long-sleeved shirt
16:44that he had on.
16:47Jeans.
16:50And from the time you've known Rob,
16:52did you ever know if he had any pieces of anybody?
16:55No, actually.
16:57That's what upsets me about this.
17:00I don't understand why anybody would want to hurt him.
17:02Everybody likes him being a funny person.
17:06And do you know what his relationship was like
17:08with the guy that used to live with him?
17:12No.
17:13But he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend.
17:16So what happened?
17:18I don't know.
17:19Honestly, Rob just referred to them as house guests,
17:21and I didn't ask too many questions.
17:25The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about
17:28is his neighbor smelling the weed.
17:32And we did talk about that because he had his,
17:35he propped his sliding glass door open a little bit.
17:38So it would air out.
17:40Do you know if Rob kept that door open after you left?
17:42Probably.
17:43It made me nervous because he didn't lock things,
17:47that being one of them.
17:48Mm-hmm.
17:50You tell me that this isn't true, right?
17:54I'm sorry for your loss.
17:59One more second.
18:07Does sound like her and the victim had a good friendship.
18:11I think she says that her husband was cool with it.
18:15Um, we do plan on following up with the husband
18:18just to make sure that there wasn't any type of jealousy
18:21on his end.
18:23Yeah.
18:30From glancing at this,
18:32Schaefer did talk to Amanda's husband,
18:34and it seemed like he was okay with his wife going over there,
18:39that he knew the victim,
18:40and he didn't have any issues with him.
18:43He did not feel the husband was involved.
18:45So after the shift ended,
18:47they were no closer to a motive behind this.
18:51According to witnesses,
18:53Rob was a ladies' man.
18:55So Schaefer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing
18:58and track down the couple that used to live with the victim.
19:02And he also wanted access to the footage on the phone,
19:07a ring camera that was inside the victim's home
19:09that may have the possible suspect,
19:12which would have been huge.
19:26The next morning,
19:28Detective Parker Bush and Schaefer
19:30head out to try to find some of the women
19:32that Rob had been seeing.
19:35Could still be a chick.
19:36Sleep around with different women.
19:38Some chick could not like it.
19:38Well, that and then one of their significant other finds out.
19:43Yeah.
19:43And shows up there at the door going,
19:45hey, can I talk to you?
19:47And things go south.
19:48Yep.
19:54Then...
19:54Hey, sir, how are you?
19:56The team gets a tip.
19:59Said she did that the residence of Mr. Brown.
20:02From Robert Brown's female ex-roommate.
20:05She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend was Rob's other ex-roommate.
20:15Maybe the killer.
20:19Okay.
20:21All right.
20:21Well, I appreciate it.
20:22No problem.
20:23All right. Take it easy.
20:27I'm saying her boyfriend did it.
20:38I think this chick has to say.
20:50Hey, how are you?
20:52What happened?
20:54I was introduced to Rob in July of this year.
20:58Me and my boyfriend were homeless together.
20:59And we stayed at his apartment.
21:01We knew each other from being rappers.
21:03Okay.
21:05While we were there...
21:07She says while they were living with Rob,
21:09she and her boyfriend weren't getting along.
21:12How did it end with y'all and Rob
21:16and staying at his apartment?
21:19Rob texted me and said,
21:20Hey, y'all. Journey will be back.
21:23Rob asked them to leave
21:24because his daughter was coming back to live with him.
21:27I left him.
21:28And shortly after they moved out,
21:30she and her boyfriend broke up.
21:33What makes you think he was be the one involved?
21:35Was there bad things between him and Rob
21:36when they were living there?
21:37We were homeless.
21:39At the point that I left him,
21:40he had nowhere else to go.
21:41So I'm assuming he did go to Rob's house at some point.
21:45I can't confirm that.
21:47Okay.
21:49My woman's intuition is telling me
21:51if he didn't do this, he knows who did.
21:53Right, right. Okay.
21:55What my intuition is telling me.
21:57Okay.
21:58He's been contacting me off of crazy different numbers.
22:02The first number was 472.
22:09Okay.
22:10We're gonna continue investigating and go from there.
22:13We have to go based off where the evidence takes us.
22:15I know you said your intuition, but...
22:17I know. I know.
22:18Yeah.
22:20Rob did not deserve that.
22:22He was a sweet guy.
22:24He did not deserve that.
22:25Now, 100%.
22:28Thank you for your time, ma'am.
22:29No problem.
22:39It was basically woman's intuition that the ex-roommate may have been involved.
22:44But Detective Schaefer did a search warrant on the ex-roommate's phone.
22:51And during the timeframe of the murder, that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina.
22:57And I believe Schaefer spoke to that person on the phone, and he was very cooperative.
23:01So I think he ruled him out.
23:06Detective Schaefer, in his notes and what he told me, seems like everyone he talked to,
23:11whether it be girlfriends, anybody, spoke very highly of the victim.
23:15And he got the sense that no one in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim.
23:22And everyone was baffled as to who would do this.
23:28Schaefer hit a dead end.
23:30And so they had the Hail Mary of the Ring camera that was inside the victim's home.
23:35That would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it.
23:47As the first 48 slips away...
23:50Camera covers the living room.
23:53Schaefer gets an update on the security camera in Rob's living room.
23:57But the Ring camera that was in there, the plan is unactive.
24:02Which means it'll give you notifications and alerts, but it doesn't record any of it.
24:08It's live view only.
24:12So there's no video of the actual shooting?
24:14Nope.
24:16No.
24:17Can't get frickin' lucky on none of it.
24:20Bank square one on that.
24:22Felt too good to be true.
24:26So yeah, things are going well. Everything's coming together nicely.
24:29And I mean that with the most sarcastic possible.
24:45Six days later...
24:47Number one, I'm so sorry.
24:49This is the worst way to meet someone, like I said, in such a situation.
24:53Schaefer speaks to Rob's mother.
24:56He didn't deserve what he got, because the type of person that he was.
25:01Before I leave South Carolina, I need to go home with some kind of closure.
25:07Yes.
25:07Not just leaving my child.
25:09I want to help and tell you as much as I can, but it is ongoing, so there's a lot
25:13I can't tell you right now.
25:15What I can tell you is this.
25:16There's two possibilities.
25:17It was either a random burglary gone wrong, or it was someone he knew.
25:22Are you aware that he had been broken in before?
25:27When was that?
25:29Maybe like a couple weeks ago.
25:32Do you know the exact date?
25:33I know.
25:34Okay.
25:40The team turns to Rob's ex-wife and daughter.
25:45What's your name?
25:46And what's your name?
25:47And what's your name?
25:48And what's your name?
25:50Did your dad ever mention that his house got broken into previously?
25:55Mm-hmm.
25:57So tell me about that.
25:59He told me someone had to give his pocket money, because he could keep like $50 in his pocket,
26:04and he'd set it like on the TV stand.
26:08Okay.
26:09And did he tell you how he thought the person was able to get inside?
26:14He had a drool involved.
26:51He did get his stuff broken into a couple weeks ago.
26:56And then I don't really see...
26:59There's no calls for service over there.
27:01So if he did, he never reported it to us.
27:04That's interesting.
27:05We'll have to chase that down, too.
27:07They're just gonna keep talking to more and more people.
27:10We're hoping to get a bunch of video from the surrounding streets and surrounding areas.
27:15Hoping that somebody's camera somewhere caught someone running from the scene that we could track,
27:20or someone jumping in a car right afterwards.
27:22Yeah.
27:23We just need to get something.
27:35Four days later...
27:36That food line has left the parking lot.
27:39The team watches surveillance video from the grocery store next to Rob's apartment complex.
27:46The victim's building is right here.
27:48Okay.
27:49And right there is, like, right by where the window's at.
27:52We need, like, some video of somebody running from the scene or something.
27:56Otherwise, it's like a f***ing tagline special.
28:00So far, not a lot of luck.
28:06Then...
28:07Oh, my God.
28:09Where the green thing is at.
28:11A thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside of the victim's building at 4.15 in the morning,
28:17right before the shooting.
28:19We think the murder time is around, like, 5 a.m.
28:23But this is about 55 minutes before that.
28:25This figure is just wandering around.
28:31Very suspicious to me, because he's not going into an apartment, he's not walking a dog.
28:38He's just wandering around behind buildings in the middle of the night.
28:41I think the temperature that night was, like, 40 degrees or less.
28:45So it was cold as hell out, and you're wandering around at 4 o'clock in the morning.
28:50So my curiosity is, why are you doing that?
28:55They're looking to break into somewhere.
28:58That's what I was kind of getting a feel for.
29:00Like, are they looking for open windows and f***?
29:02The homicide, he did have his window left open.
29:05And his mother said that he did get broken into a couple weeks ago.
29:12Uh, let's see where he goes after that.
29:20Then I don't see him again.
29:29And then, this video we're getting is from right about here.
29:34Shaffer pulls up doorbell footage they got from a neighbor down the street from Rob's apartment.
29:40This is at 5.12 a.m., minutes after we believe the homicide occurred,
29:45of an individual walking down the street.
29:53Lowell Drive, which is where the homicide occurred.
29:56This could potentially be the same person, from the video, walking behind the apartment building.
30:03This guy is a potential suspect.
30:07I wish we had a postman shoot up at him.
30:10Right.
30:11But, he's our best lead so far, as I could say.
30:18It's possible that it was a burglar gone wrong.
30:21Just laying down if someone was trying to break in.
30:23Yep.
30:30Three weeks later.
30:32Hey, Kaysen.
30:33Yes, sir.
30:34Detectives Kaysen Alex and Carlos Ochoaia are working a case that they believe could be connected to Rob's.
30:42So, I have a rash of burglaries in the Forest Hills area.
30:47Um, and that's the same area where the homicide was.
30:50The most recent burglary occurred around 10 o'clock last night.
30:55He went into the window of their house while everybody was inside the house.
30:58Right.
30:59And just stole all their stuff.
31:01Um, the M.O. is that the same for this kid.
31:03I dealt with him before, um, where he likes to break into people's houses while people are home.
31:08Alex realized the M.O. of last night's robbery matched that of a juvenile burglar that he arrested three months
31:14ago.
31:15He's a 15-year-old.
31:17I'm locked doors and windows.
31:19That's where he goes through.
31:20The case I arrested him for back in September.
31:23He broke in the house.
31:24One of the roommates came home, was front of him, and he pulled a gun on him down.
31:27Um, when me and, uh, other detectives wanted to go pick him up, he tried to pull a gun out
31:31on us.
31:31But we were able to stop him before he was able to do it.
31:35Charges against the juvenile for the burglary three months ago were dismissed.
31:39So, he may be connecting it into the homicide because the M.O. is just the same.
31:52The juvenile suspect was definitely on the street at the time Rob's murder happened.
32:00So, did she see the guy who broke it?
32:02No.
32:03The victim of last night's burglary was in her bedroom when it happened.
32:29The burglary victim recognized one of the suspects in the video from the neighborhood.
32:34He's the same juvenile that Detective Alex arrested for the previous burglary.
32:40So, we think this may be our suspect from the homicide.
32:44It's possible.
32:46The fact that he was willing to pull a gun out on three officers in uniform.
32:50The fact that he actually did pull a gun out on my other victim and threatened her.
32:55I feel he could, he could escalate that point.
32:58Especially if he's inside somebody's house breaking in there and they catch him.
33:02I wouldn't be surprised if he would do something like that.
33:06Unfortunately, we don't have enough to arrest him for this burglary.
33:13So, the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case for those two.
33:17We're going to follow up with the victim.
33:18We're going to go out to her house.
33:19We'll start going around the neighborhood canvassing for video.
33:22And then when we can get enough to charge them with the burglary, we can pick them up.
33:26And while they're up here, talk to them about the homicide.
33:33Detective Schaefer in his notes and what he told me, he wasn't able to develop enough probable cause or enough
33:40evidence for that one particular burglar to charge him.
33:45And then Schaefer was beginning the process of being promoted out of the unit.
33:50Six months after Schaefer left the unit.
33:53The property detectives, Detective Kaysen, ended up charging that juvenile suspect with yet another burglary.
34:04When Detective Kaysen went to apprehend that juvenile suspect, he had a backpack.
34:11Just like the suspect that is on camera walking back towards his residence minutes after the homicide.
34:19So, that is a strong person of interest.
34:23So, we needed to somehow find some way to convince him to come to City Hall, to put him in
34:29a room, then interview him.
34:41Thirteen months after Rob's murder.
34:45That juvenile suspect just came in today to pick up some items from another case.
34:50So, a phone, his backpack.
34:52So, I'm going to try to interview him and see what he says.
34:55See if we can get him to admit to this.
34:58Hey, how's it going? I'm Detective Vantine.
35:03So, you're looking to get some items back. You're talking about like a backpack. You're talking about a phone.
35:07It's an iPhone 14.
35:09It's an iPhone 14.
35:10Okay. Apple iPhone was seized. And then you said you're...
35:13It's a black backpack.
35:15I got you. Do you, is that, how long you had that backpack for?
35:17Uh, what are you into?
35:21We had some burglaries in the area.
35:24And I'm wondering if, um...
35:25Hey, I'll show you a picture if you ever hit this place or remember it.
35:31Okay.
35:37Yeah.
35:39December 3rd, early in the morning, 2024.
35:42This place...
35:44was broken into.
35:47This window is open.
35:48This was shattered.
35:50No.
35:56The thing is, I think you do...
36:01You would go into like different places, right?
36:04And so I'm asking about this particular one.
36:07Get it off your chest. What happened?
36:14Let me ask you this, when you did these break-ins.
36:17Did you have someone with you?
36:18Yeah.
36:19I always have my brain.
36:21I don't steal. We don't steal.
36:23What do you do?
36:23We just go in and chill.
36:24How do you get in usually though?
36:26From the bed door or the window.
36:29You always go through like a window?
36:32Yeah, but...
36:36This window is open.
36:38You ever go through this window and chill?
36:49Oh, you know who the house this is?
36:53Have you ever gone to a place where somebody lives?
36:56While they're in there?
36:57No.
36:59That's dumb.
37:00Do you want to hear me?
37:02Yeah.
37:03Well, not knowing they're in there.
37:04No.
37:05Not that slow nor stupid.
37:08When you go into chill in these houses, you usually have a weapon on you?
37:11No.
37:11I don't carry weapons.
37:13I don't have...
37:14You were arrested with guns in the past?
37:16No, it was only because I found it.
37:19And I just started to use it for protection.
37:21Right.
37:22I was just doing it for the funny thing.
37:23For the looks.
37:24I wouldn't do no of these.
37:36The phone?
37:37Do you know the passcode to that phone?
37:39Yeah.
37:41He gives Vantine the passcode.
37:43I'm going to be honest with you.
37:45I won't be able to release it today, that's for sure.
37:50Well, I got you.
37:52I feel you.
37:54Yeah, you're good.
38:04Just denying, denying.
38:06He mentioned that he did usually go through the windows.
38:09And this is entry through a window unsecured.
38:13But I just don't have enough to say I don't have any DNA putting him there.
38:17I don't have any video putting him there.
38:19I got the passcode to his phone so we can do the phone dump.
38:23So maybe there's something in the text message that will either rule him out or rule him in.
38:33The burglary suspect that we just interviewed, we didn't dump his phone.
38:36Unfortunately, there's nothing to prove that he committed this crime.
38:41But he is still a strong person of interest.
38:44As far as the community, maybe somebody knows something and he confided in somebody.
38:49Maybe someone has some crucial information that will help solve it.
38:53I know this suspect commits burglaries for other juveniles.
38:57Maybe they will cooperate and they'll be able to come forward.
39:02I think the thing is trying to never give it up and just hoping that something will break.
39:17Unsolved cases are never close.
39:23I'm gonna do everything in my power to figure out who did this.
39:27Rob's life was taken.
39:30And so I feel it's important to let the family know we are still actively trying to solve it.
39:37I remember him. He was a nice guy to me.
39:39Yeah.
39:40If it's been over a year or two years or three or ten or whatever the case is,
39:46we're never gonna give up hope. We're never gonna stop trying.
39:49I'm never gonna quit on it. Never.
40:01He made people laugh just by stepping in the room.
40:05He was just that silly.
40:09Just proud of him, you know.
40:11Never had nothing bad to say about my nephew.
40:14I just can't wrap my mind around why somebody do that to him.
40:20Whoever did it, they took something away from me that could never be replaced.
40:25They took a daddy away from his kids.
40:30It's been a struggle.
40:38With Kingston, he doesn't understand.
40:42So he asked for him and I can't really explain why he's not there.
40:49With Journey, it's a different type of difficulty because she knows.
40:54She's angry and upset because somebody took something so valuable away from her.
41:02From all of us.
41:04And I want to be able to look at the person in their eyes and ask them why.
41:16Father God, we gather today in honor of Robert hoping that this will bring justice.
41:24Somebody knows exactly what happened.
41:27And I pray that their conscience will allow them to tell somebody so that we'll know who did it and
41:35why.
41:36Put yourself in our shoes.
41:38What if it was your family member and you know somebody know?
41:42Wouldn't you want them to say it?
41:45It will help a lot.
41:47Please and thank you, whoever you are.
41:49I know you know something.
41:54In loving memories, Robert Linares Brown III.
42:02Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:05Say it loud.
42:07Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:10Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:15Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:21I'm a Christian.
42:22I feel the earth's pain.
42:24I'm a Christian.
42:26I'm a Christian.
42:27Heartbroken.
42:28I'm a Christian.
42:30Heartbroken
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