00:00But I have to say, you are giving such a raw, real look at what postpartum looks like in this
00:05season for so many women. And you must be receiving so many messages. What is that like?
00:11Oh, probably more than I ever have before. Like even when it was really bad, but obviously it's
00:17really good now. No, I really appreciate the support of all the women. Like this is when
00:22social media for me is like such a slam dunk. And even through my pregnancy, just the amount
00:29of moms that are so present on social media in such an honest, real vulnerable way, the amount
00:35of moms that I have probably followed in the last year. And it's those moms that give me the courage
00:42to like, I owe it to them to just be exactly who I am and to not sugarcoat anything or
00:48try to appear
00:49to be any way than I feel. And I think I was saying this earlier, but I feel like me
00:55watching it back
00:56is so funny to me because the juxtaposition of Nia and I like Nia being this really seasoned mom
01:01who's like homeschooling and like, I love her to pieces, but like, she's just like floating. Like
01:06she has it all together. And then you have me and Luke being like, what, what, what do we do?
01:13Baby, a bottle, change a diaper. What do we do? What do we do? So I think that's really fun
01:18for moms
01:18because there are moms like both of us out there, you know, when you look back on this time in
01:23your life,
01:23which I mean, it wasn't even that long ago, what's going through your mind and how are you doing now
01:27in comparison? So when I'm watching it back, I mean, I see the pain and the struggle. But I also
01:34see like, why was I holding my baby like that? Or like just the whole, the new mom of it
01:40all. And I
01:41was very like seasoned with babies. I've known Brittany's son Cruz since he was four days old, but just
01:47watching kind of the, the, the fumbly, the like clumsiness of being the new mom, it's almost funny
01:54to me now, but I love having this footage of our daughter. The conversation between you and Luke
02:01this season is the lack of intimacy in your relationship, which obviously is expected
02:05because you had literally just given birth. All I want you to know is I'm actually having trouble
02:09being a first time dad too. You're a first time mom. No, Kristen, I've tried to talk to you numerous
02:15times. I'm not allowed to have a hard time. It's not allowed to be hard for both of us. It's
02:18only
02:18allowed to be hard for you. Why do you think Luke had such a difficult time understanding your
02:22perspective? Yeah. It's crazy watching that back too, because it's like, I, I feel like we're just
02:28not speaking the same language. And as I'm watching it more, I'm feeling more for him than I was
02:36like just feeling really like how, like where he is deep down more than I was in the moment,
02:42because I was just so stuck in survival mode. It was like hormones, make sure the baby stays alive.
02:48We have two dogs. And then I'm trying to figure out who I am again. And I, and I wanted
02:53to be social
02:54and I really wanted to like have dinner with my girlfriends, but I needed the push from everybody
02:59to sort of get me out there. And even with that, it was still really difficult. And so watching Luke,
03:05especially on this last episode, be really vulnerable with Zach and Zach really is sort
03:09of like both of our best friends. And he does ride in the middle a lot because Zach can speak
03:14Kristen as well as Zach can speak Luke. But I want people to give Luke a little bit of a
03:21chance
03:22because I know all the moms, like I was saying, how wonderful they are out there, the audience,
03:27the social media, you know, the listeners of podcasts, but I don't feel like there are resources
03:32for the first time dads. And even though, listen, I'll say here, I was going through more. Okay.
03:39He was still going through a lot. So I just want everyone to kind of like give him a little
03:43bit
03:44of a break. And it's not this, this sort of mentality, like budding heads mentality that we
03:50have will not last the whole entire season. There will be some breakthroughs. And as anyone knows,
03:56the first time parent, it is a rollercoaster. So it is going to be like up, down, up, down
04:00until we find our footing. Well, I'm glad to hear that things are good between you and Luke
04:04these days. Are you guys back to wedding planning? Absolutely not. I mean, the baby just started
04:10crawling a couple of weeks ago. Now she's standing, walking's coming next. Like we have to baby proof
04:14the house still. Like we put her in her little like baby jail play area most of the time. That
04:19is my
04:19concern right now. So one day, I mean, the one thing we have is a wedding planner. And I think
04:26we
04:26have a space, like a city. And that's what we've gotten. So that's better than we were a year ago.
04:33Well, last quick question on this, because when you were addressing the intimacy issues in your
04:37confessional, you said your therapist asked you what's 15 minutes out of your day.
04:42I absolutely understand Luke's needs. And my therapist said like, what is 15 minutes out of
04:47your day, Kristen? Now I know that kind of had a lot of people talking. What do you think of
04:51that
04:52statement now? And are you still seeing this therapist? Yes, I am. And to be clear, I not
04:59only did I hear this from my personal therapist who I've been with for a very, very, very long time,
05:03like a decade plus, also our couples therapists that we have been seeing. It's not the you'll see
05:10us in therapy on the show. That is not the therapist that we end up going with anyone who's
05:14in therapy knows it's nothing against her. We just you got to kind of try a few out until you
05:19find
05:19what fits. And I know it's like the way I said it made so much sense in my brain, like
05:25it wasn't a
05:25big deal. And everyone's like fire the therapist. And really what she meant was like, again, it's
05:31not necessarily the sex thing as much as it is like the intimacy, whether it's like you're holding
05:36hands, but you go out of your way to kiss him or you guys make out or maybe it leads
05:40to that. But
05:41just like, give your give him like, what is 15 minutes in your day to focus on your fiance?
05:48I do want to get into the Janet of it all because we know we've seen her going around maybe
05:53trying
05:53to make some apologies, some build some bridges, maybe even do you think her apologies are genuine?
06:01Um, not really. I'm sure there's some truth sprinkled in there. But based on what I know,
06:08and I've seen that is yet to come for the rest of you watching, um, no, it, it, it felt
06:16very,
06:16it felt a little performative. It felt to me personally, like she got a lot of backlash from
06:22the audience. So how is she going to navigate this differently this time? And I say, I say it often.
06:28I, I see, I've seen Janet change a lot, but I haven't really seen Janet evolve.
06:33So I'm still waiting. Well, I wonder, cause like we've seen so many shocking, like dynamic shifts
06:41on reality TV over the years. I always point to you and Ariana becoming very close friends. Cause
06:45obviously in the beginning, it was not like that. Do you see a world in which you and Janet could
06:50become friends again today? I do not know. Um, and that has a lot to do with again, like what
06:57I've,
06:57the way she treats my friends, um, speaks volumes to me and I have a baby and my village just
07:06gets
07:07tighter. Like you need a village to raise a baby, but my circle gets tighter, smaller.
07:11And I have friends in different friend groups. And within this friend group, it's like, if I can't
07:15trust you, what do we have to build off of? And that's what I see from her right now.
07:21I unfortunately just don't see the Janet that I was friends with many years ago. I'm not seeing
07:25very many inklings of that right now, but you know, you never say never.
07:30It was announced last week that Stassi was getting her own Hulu show. I know Katie's going to be a
07:34part of it. Any chance we'll see all three witches of WeHo back together in the future on that show?
07:40No, I don't think so. No, but I'm really, really proud of Stassi. I know it's something she's been
07:44working on for years. Like I don't, I haven't spoken to her in probably a year, year and a half
07:50now
07:50at this point. But in Katie too, like Katie and I kind of text here and there, but we're just,
07:56we're in such different places in our lives. So for me, like there's no ill intent, like we're not
08:02fighting. We're not, not friends. We just are not really friends anymore, but I'm really proud of
08:09Stassi. And I'm so excited that Katie's back on the train too, because she's great TV.
08:13Well, I of course also have to ask you about, about this. Cause you were right there in the
08:17first episode of Summer House way back when, um, have you spoken to any of the parties involved in
08:23the ongoing scandal? And what was your reaction to the reunion leak?
08:26Hey, the reunion leak was wild. I knew in my gut, like there was no way it was a cast
08:31member
08:32for sure. Um, and whoever did it, like, I don't, I don't even know what to say about that. Um,
08:39it's going to be really tough on the network. I think it's really tough on the cast members.
08:43And I know some people have opinions about what Andy Cohen was saying on his radio show and like
08:50saying that he overreacted, but it really is the most intense day. I don't think people realize that
08:57you're there like 10, sometimes 12 hours, like burying your heart and soul. And Andy's having to
09:02listen, you know, to people screaming at each other all day long while he's flying in, flying out.
09:06It's just a lot of work on so in the crew productions, the network. So it is, I would
09:12be frustrated if something from our reunion got leaked and it's tough on Bravo because it's like,
09:17how do you go into an editing process to make something very seamless when so much has been
09:23given? They're going to, I don't know if they have to show it all now or what that's going to
09:27look
09:27like. But as far as the West, like Amanda Sierra of it all, I have not talked to, I don't
09:33know West.
09:33I've met him, I think one or two times. Amanda and I have always been like friends, friendly,
09:40not really close. I of course reached out to Sierra and said something, but again, not someone I'm
09:45very close with. Kyle and Lindsay, I'm very close with. So when I was in New York doing Watch What
09:50Happens, I went over Lindsay's and we went and met up with Kyle and it was like right when the
09:56news
09:57broke. So I still talk to Kyle and just kind of checking in on him and, you know, how everything's
10:02doing and he's doing great. And Lindsay's thriving and killing it, but I am to be a fly on that
10:08wall
10:08at that reunion. Well, speaking of reunions, I imagine the Valley reunion is going to come up
10:13before, before you know it, what is one thing you're hoping to address? Oh, I mean, I, I'm sure
10:19there will be a plethora of things once, once I watch the rest of this season. Um, but I, I
10:25know that
10:26I will have a bone to pick with Janet based on what I lived, what people are seeing now
10:32through the finale. Um, I have some words, definitely have some words that I would like
10:38to express and, and I'll say like, you know, calm as cucumber and, and do what I do. But
10:43last year I was nine months pregnant at the reunion. So it'll be nice to like, okay, I can
10:50really feel my feelings that aren't like hormonal feelings.
