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00:01The biggest thing that hurt us was everything that was said about us and not to us.
00:07Any concerns you have, please come to us
00:10because if I find out that they're still gossiping about Zack and O, I will not tolerate it.
00:16Have you dated anyone yet or are you...?
00:18I have not dated anybody yet.
00:20What type would you be more drawn to?
00:23Um, I guess in four words, the Sandra Bullock look.
00:27Yeah, I like Sandra.
00:30Me and Tegan broke up.
00:32I really, truly feel like there's unfinished business.
00:36We'll see if the patterns change, I guess.
00:40They're doing a family trip to Montana to go see Mariah.
00:44Ethan has extended the invite to me.
00:46I really hope you do come.
00:48We'll see.
00:49Can I hug you, please?
00:50Nope.
01:03Do you want to peel potatoes and put them in that pot?
01:07It's our first Thanksgiving back at the farm.
01:09All day today, the girls and I have been trying to get Thanksgiving dinner together.
01:15We've got Ken smoking a turkey.
01:18I'm making a ham in the oven.
01:20We're making bread from scratch.
01:22And Ethan's here too, which is extra special.
01:27He's exhausted.
01:29He just got in from driving straight from Wisconsin.
01:32He went to Wisconsin to find a place to live and tell Tegan that he's moving there.
01:38I think Ethan knows what's at stake and how big this is.
01:42If she rejects him, then he's starting all over either there or someplace else.
01:50Ethan's upstairs.
01:51Should we get him up?
01:52Yeah, I'll go get him up.
01:53Ultimately, I'm supportive of Ethan moving because I feel like Ethan will never rest until
01:59he figures out if Tegan is going to work out or not.
02:05This is my last little week or two that I have with everyone and basically wrap that chapter
02:11up in Georgia.
02:12Are you okay?
02:14I'll be down in a minute.
02:15Okay.
02:16You know, I think Tegan definitely is still processing everything.
02:21And, you know, one of the things she told me was the door is closed, but it's not locked.
02:26All right.
02:27So I put the bread in the oven.
02:29Excuse me.
02:33It's just a waiting that's killing me right now.
02:35It just can't have them fast enough.
02:37I can't wait for those wheels on that New Yorker to be rolling north.
02:41Thank you for carving the turkey, Ken.
02:43Thank you for cooking the turkey.
02:45Hey, guys.
02:46Hi.
02:46Sorry we're late.
02:48There's a lot of food.
02:50The holidays that Barry and I did not celebrate with the children were Christmas, Easter, Halloween,
02:57and Valentine's Day.
02:59We did celebrate Thanksgiving.
03:01That's good.
03:02For Thanksgiving, when the kids were young, we usually rented a beach house and that was
03:07our Thanksgiving.
03:08I picked meals that were conducive to spending all day on the beach.
03:13Like I would make a big pot of chili.
03:14If for some reason we didn't go to the beach, which would be later on, the kids were older,
03:20then yeah, we would do an occasional, you know, official Thanksgiving dinner with turkey
03:25and cranberry sauce.
03:26But to me, Thanksgiving is just a good opportunity to get everybody together and have a good meal
03:31together.
03:31You're attempting you.
03:33Oh, yeah.
03:33I'm in the end.
03:34Mercy, can you pass the bread down here?
03:36Yeah, yeah.
03:36I feel like after everything that we've been through, a divorce.
03:41Ethan not being allowed to talk to us for several years.
03:44It's kind of a miracle that we're back at the farm having Thanksgiving together.
03:49I'm thankful for all the time we got to spend with everybody here.
03:52I'm thankful for Kalen.
03:54Aww.
03:56Isaac and Kalen have been broken up for about all of four days before they got back together.
04:01I think that was the longest and worst four days of Isaac's life.
04:07I am thankful for Isaac and friends and family and being able to gather here today.
04:13I think the most important thing I've learned from all this is just not to take Kalen for granted,
04:19you know.
04:19I'm truly blessed to be able to learn from it and have a second chance.
04:24I'm thankful for going on 10 months of the most amazing chapter of my life.
04:31First Thanksgiving together as a married couple.
04:34Also my first Thanksgiving away from my family.
04:38Oh, yeah.
04:40Want some?
04:41Mike and Mariah weren't able to come visit for Thanksgiving,
04:44but they visited a couple weeks ago, so we still got to see them.
04:47Mike and Mariah live out of state, and they do come visit a couple times a year as they can,
04:52but, you know, it's harder.
04:53We all have busy lives.
04:56There's no telling how many people will be at our Thanksgiving dinner next year.
05:00Is it possible there could be a new little person?
05:04Yeah.
05:05You never know.
05:07I'd say, honestly, we do have a few more, like, just logistics we should work out.
05:12There's still a couple things that we want to just be a little bit more confident in,
05:16but I think mentally we're in that place.
05:19Just mentally we're there.
05:20Yeah.
05:24Patience, my darling.
05:25Lydia has baby eyes.
05:27Every time I talk to her, she's like, I want a baby.
05:30And what kind of prenatal vitamin should I take?
05:33She has baby fever.
05:34Bad.
05:35But I think Zach is a little more rational, thinking things through and saying, let's wait
05:40a little bit.
05:41I'm kind of insinuating that you two, but I mean, Ken and I are, we're not out of the race
05:45yet.
05:53She's had 10 kids and you don't like, like, if you use the lawnmower or like a bunch,
05:59doesn't it like wear out?
06:05I'm not talking about any of this.
06:07I don't want to talk about my mother and the last fertility.
06:11Baby.
06:12If my mom actually has a kid, I'll shave every hair on my head, including my eyebrows
06:18and eyelashes.
06:19If it happens, I'd be happy.
06:21I'd be really happy if it never happened.
06:26The temperature has been steady dropping the past few days.
06:29Way to change the topic.
06:31No.
06:32We just need Lydia and I to be pregnant together.
06:39Awkward.
06:41Hello.
06:41Hello.
06:42Hi.
06:42How you guys doing?
06:43I'm doing all right.
06:44Oh, all right.
06:46Kim had let me know that they were celebrating Thanksgiving out at the farm.
06:49And she just casually said, hey, if you want to stop by, feel free.
06:53Things are much more casual.
06:55They're living their best life.
06:56I'm just moving forward with mine.
06:58So given that Ken's pretty easy going, it's easy for me just to slip out there and chit chat.
07:03Oh, we never did a toast.
07:05I want Mercy to make the toast.
07:07I propose a toast to very crispy bread.
07:11Get it?
07:12Toast?
07:13Wait, Ethan's glass is empty.
07:14Put something in here.
07:15Oh, yeah.
07:15What do you want to ask?
07:16No, I don't want any.
07:18Cheers to being back at the farm.
07:20Yay.
07:21Being back.
07:21You're here.
07:23Ethan, I've talked a little bit since he's been back from Wisconsin.
07:26I don't know where everybody else is at with what Ethan's doing.
07:30I know for me, I can tell he misses Tegan.
07:34If I could have one thing next Thanksgiving and Christmas, spend it with Tegan and her daughter.
07:41That would be my wish.
07:43The holidays are always hard when, like, you were with someone last year and then you're alone this year,
07:49as far as, like, your significant other.
07:51So I think about that all the time.
07:54Lydia and Zach and Isaac and Kaylin and my mom and Ken.
07:58It's like, dang, what is wrong with me?
08:02So, Ethan, when are you moving up to Wisconsin?
08:05Pretty soon.
08:06Like, a week or two?
08:07A week or two.
08:08Maybe up there for Christmas?
08:10No, I don't know.
08:11Okay.
08:14I honestly don't even know what to say.
08:19If we're finished, I have an idea.
08:21All of us spread out between here and the kitchen.
08:25Just passing stuff.
08:26Yeah, let's do that.
08:26Good idea.
08:26And then the table gets cleared.
08:28What, like an assembly line?
08:29Yeah, like an assembly line.
08:31We all knew that he wanted to work it out with her.
08:34And we knew, we kind of knew, in a way, he had talked about it before, about possibly moving up
08:39there.
08:39In a way, we were a little bit surprised that he was actually going up there.
08:42And then in a way, we weren't.
08:44I'm gonna go...
08:45I'll be in the middle.
08:46Get in the kitchen, ready to receive.
08:49Since her and Ethan did break up, me and Tegan haven't talked like we used to.
08:55It is a little murky too, like, me being Isaac's girlfriend, Ethan's brother.
09:02So I kind of, you know, took a little step back.
09:05Nobody's doing assembly line, are they?
09:06No, the table's almost cleared.
09:14You mind if you take some of this home at all?
09:16I don't know.
09:17Okay.
09:25Oh, it's like I think I just need to...
09:27Just run.
09:28Get some cardio going.
09:29Get some weight off so I'm not...
09:30Get the blood pumping, right?
09:32...overworking muscles.
09:33Because you can't full run in it.
09:35No, it's like really a challenge.
09:38I should start running again.
09:40After all this thing's giving food, my time's gonna be slow.
09:46All right, Ethan.
09:48I feel like I've heard a lot of, like, everything here and there.
09:53But, like, where are you and Tegan at, would you say?
09:56And what's, like, kind of your goal in, like, going up to Wisconsin?
10:01Because I'd love to hear it from you more than just whispers everywhere.
10:05Well, I don't know.
10:08I guess we'll find out where we're at, but I'm just gonna move up there and...
10:12Give it a go?
10:12Give it a go.
10:13Can't have it...
10:14Can't do that down here, so...
10:16Yeah.
10:17That's just where I feel I need to be.
10:19Yeah.
10:20That's where I want to be.
10:24Last I heard, Tegan and Ethan were broke up.
10:27And now he's moving across the country to go have more time with her.
10:31So I think I'd like to just maybe understand it a little more.
10:35Why he would make a decision like that.
10:38And if it's worth going across the entire country for her.
10:42Are you guys gonna, like, looking to get back together or what's the...
10:47I'll just let whatever happened happen.
10:52Just trying to take it slow?
10:54Mm-hmm.
10:56I didn't really want to talk about that, but Zack went there.
11:00Because if Ethan's not feeling good and he perceives Zack to be too nosy, right?
11:06I'm in observer mode.
11:08And see if anything breaks out, I need to, you know, do anything.
11:12If you don't mind me asking, like, what's some of the...
11:15I guess, like, what's led to just some of the separation?
11:19Or just, like, having to reset and just kind of take it slow?
11:24I don't pretty much sum it up and she always felt last and I never moved over there.
11:32Even though I told her that I would many times.
11:35Mm-hmm.
11:38Zack's pretty good at making people open up and asking the right questions.
11:43I'm kind of more just like, I'll ask a few, but if you don't open up, I'm not gonna go
11:49grab the sledgehammer.
11:51What's your timeline, I guess?
11:53You know, if stuff doesn't hash out to come back here or, like, committing to six months or a year,
12:00what do you think?
12:01Oh.
12:01I don't know.
12:03It's very different than my brother's and what I'm used to.
12:07Zack is going a lot deeper than Mike and Isaac would and I'm not even nearly as close to him
12:14or know him very well.
12:17He'll figure that out.
12:20He's just gonna give it a good go.
12:22Okay.
12:24Zack may have reservations about Ethan's choice of go back to Wisconsin.
12:29I'm just staying out of it because he's gotta do it. I mean, I see it in his eyes.
12:37Play it by ear.
12:38Cool.
12:39Mm-hmm.
12:44Ethan was definitely quiet and just a bit to himself, I guess you could say.
12:48Um, I don't entirely know why, but maybe a little later we can, you know, maybe have some more conversation,
12:56but we'll see.
13:03In my experience, Bigfoot will be active during the daytime.
13:07If I dated a lady and she just out of the blue did a Bigfoot call...
13:15That would probably be a green flag.
13:18Me and Tegan, we're going to Montana to see Mariah.
13:22I'm exhausted.
13:23It all went downhill from, like, the moment we got on the first plane.
13:32I'm going up.
13:34Can't keep me up.
13:37Oh, baby, you see me.
13:39I'm about to elevate.
13:41I'm going up.
13:46Hi.
13:46Howdy, howdy.
13:48Y'all loving the weather?
13:49Hmm.
13:50Today we're at Torreya State Park in the Panhandle of Florida.
13:54Torreya State Park is a great location to find Bigfoot.
13:59Um, maybe we'll hear something, like, hear it calling or whatever.
14:03I think Amber's really hoping for a sighting.
14:06Yeah, why not?
14:08Mercy?
14:10I mean, if I saw one, I'd probably be scared, but it's nice to be able to spend time with
14:15Dad.
14:15Yeah.
14:16This area's got a real rich history with Bigfoot.
14:20Going back to, like, the 1880s, I've taken over 750 reports in the state,
14:26eyewitnesses I've spoken with, 60 in this area.
14:29I grew up in Minnesota.
14:31Of course, there's reports from the woods in northern Minnesota of encounters.
14:36Yep.
14:36This is one of those out-of-the-left-field ventures that I thought would be interesting to, I guess,
14:46explore.
14:47There's the hoaxes, but then there's too much real, legit experiences that just indicates there's stuff there.
14:55Right.
14:55That's real.
14:56Mm-hmm.
14:57I'm a Bigfoot researcher.
14:58I try to document historical accounts of Bigfoot's existence, and I'm currently on a quest to prove it to the
15:07world.
15:08Two of my six daughters.
15:10But these are the adventurous ones who are curious about things that go bump in the night.
15:15Well, curiosity killed the cat.
15:30Okay.
15:30Got the fire going.
15:31Oh, good.
15:32Thank you.
15:33What do y'all do?
15:33I'm baking chocolate chip cookies.
15:37Barry took Amber and Mercy to a big dark forest somewhere to go hunting for Bigfoot.
15:44I think for Barry to find a woman that's into things like Bigfoot and a whole bunch of other things
15:50that I know Barry's into, I think it's going to be pretty slim.
15:54But somebody's out there for him.
15:59So, Thanksgiving, you were talking about possibility of having another kid.
16:03You were joking, correct?
16:05Well, okay, if you wanted a son, I would love to try for a son.
16:09For you.
16:10It would still be a miracle for both of us to do that, so.
16:15It would definitely be a miracle.
16:18Your mom and Ken are jokingly talking about having another baby.
16:22You're shaking your head.
16:23Why?
16:24Because I don't want to answer.
16:28Wouldn't you love to have another baby, brother?
16:32Cassie would probably just think, oh, there's mom talking, you know, being funny or whatever.
16:38But I know if I had a little baby, she would be all over it.
16:43Well, let's say, just hypothetically, that did happen.
16:48I would be okay with it.
16:50I think that in Kim's mind, she feels like that we would be a lot closer if we had a
16:55child that we shared together.
16:57But that's not the case.
16:59If Kim were to get pregnant, I would be happy.
17:02I would support her, I would take care of the baby just like I would my other children.
17:07I would prefer not to have a child of my age, but I'd be okay with it.
17:17You've got imprints.
17:19So we found this one.
17:20This was with about 17 other tracks.
17:24Okay?
17:25Yeah.
17:26I've never experienced anything.
17:27So I don't have any stories personally.
17:29But I guess I'm the brain type that would entertain the possibility that this creature is real.
17:35Girls, let's go.
17:37This is an adventure.
17:40Girls, there's gonna be a little trail up here on the right.
17:43Okay.
17:43And we'll take that.
17:45If I find someone who has a curiosity about mysteries of unknown realms like Bigfoot, that would be an interesting
17:56lady to talk to.
17:58I know a lot of people think that you should Bigfoot during the night time.
18:01In my experience, Bigfoot is more in tune with like the moon cycle.
18:06We are in a full moon right now.
18:08And so all the animals will be active during the daytime.
18:12Right?
18:13Dad finally told us that he's ready to date.
18:15And I think I could see Dad with someone who's like definitely like very adventurous and loves doing things outdoors.
18:22Someone who's like really, I want to say open minded.
18:25It like doesn't, you know, we'll humor him and all his, his theories and stuff.
18:30Like for Bigfoot, for example.
18:33I'm going to play a singing bowl.
18:35Okay.
18:35See if we hear anything.
18:36Okay.
18:41With the bowl, I guess it's a device to create the sound that would elicit a response from Bigfoot.
18:58I wonder if Sandra Bullock is a Sasquatch enthusiast.
19:03I could try some calls.
19:04I'll go first and then you can give it a shot yourself.
19:17Maybe y'all would like to do one?
19:19I can't.
19:20I have laryngitis.
19:21Yeah, right.
19:22Yeah.
19:24I definitely will not do my Sasquatch noise.
19:27But if I dated a lady and she just out of the blue did a Bigfoot call, that would probably
19:33be a green flag.
19:36Do you think they could be around?
19:38Like do you think they could be watching us?
19:41Do you ever get that feeling when you're in the woods that something's watching you?
19:47I promise you, something's watching you.
20:12Today I'm meeting Ethan to eat together and catch up on some things because he's, you know, moving.
20:18What's up?
20:19I've been here for 40 minutes.
20:21Oh, I'm sorry.
20:23No, it's fine.
20:23But I am mad at you.
20:26I had a bunch of stuff to work out.
20:29Phone calls to my attorney and all that stuff.
20:31I was late to meet Isaac and I do feel bad about that.
20:36But I had a phone call with my attorney because that unfortunately is still grinding on with my ex.
20:42It's extremely important to Tegan that I be divorced.
20:45It's extremely important to me as well.
20:48I'm still legally married to someone else.
20:51That's a big deal.
20:52I want to live you out of my life the day that we are legally separate.
20:57You know, I pray for that day to come very quickly every day.
21:01You already have a place up there or?
21:04Mm-hmm.
21:04What's going to be your first steps when you move up there?
21:07Get my job going and move in.
21:10I kind of hate to go because of you guys, but at the same time, I have to.
21:15I can't stay.
21:17Maybe it'll work out, maybe it won't.
21:18But you can't kill yourself trying to make it if it's not what she wants.
21:21I think that it will.
21:23It just can't work if I'm down here.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Yeah.
21:26Isaac is very protective of me because of everything that happened with my ex.
21:31I completely understand that.
21:33Me and Isaac have always been very close.
21:34He doesn't want to see me get hurt, go on a limb again.
21:38And he also loves having me here in Georgia and he doesn't want me to leave, so.
21:43Feels like you just got down here.
21:46Sucks that you have to leave so soon.
21:48Yeah.
21:48We have Montana, though, too.
21:50It's going to be good to get out there and see what environment Mariah's living in.
21:53Well, you know, I asked Tegan to come to Montana.
21:56She is coming.
21:57Oh, she is?
21:58Mm-hmm.
21:59I didn't know that.
22:01Pretty soon here, I'm going to see Mariah in Montana with Isaac and Kaelin.
22:05I had just mentioned to Tegan that I'd really like her to come,
22:09just because me and her could spend some time together,
22:12just like break the ice again a little bit maybe, you know, as friends or whatever.
22:18I'm really happy.
22:19I was hoping that she would come.
22:21She'll be out there the whole time?
22:23No, she'll be out there for maybe two days.
22:28Well, I'm glad you're happy.
22:32I've noticed some distinctive patterns when it comes to him and Tegan and his mood changes.
22:38He's so fun to be around when everything's fine with him personally,
22:41but sometimes his personality fades.
22:43He's not as happy.
22:45I hate that.
22:46I'm not going to go out to Montana and just have my face in my ass because I'm sad about
22:53something that doesn't even directly affect me.
22:56I'm just going to go out there and have fun.
22:59I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much.
23:02It's just one of those things you've got to do because you don't want to have that question in the
23:05back of your head.
23:07If you could have made it work, I guess.
23:10I'm not trying to upset Ethan.
23:12He likes her.
23:14I want to respect him and make sure he knows that I'll support him, whatever he does.
23:17But if I can see something that I don't think is a good idea, it pains me to just sit
23:21back and watch him.
23:22I'm not really doing much different with Kalen after the breakup.
23:26I've always gotten her flowers, done nice things for her, and I always will.
23:29But I guess I've got to give her more reassurance.
23:33What do you plan on doing differently to make sure it works?
23:37I don't know. I'm just going to try my best.
23:53Look, we have some nice, really hot embers in there finally.
23:56Already, yeah. Starting up again.
23:58We spent Thanksgiving with the whole family and Lydia and I decided to stay here at the farm.
24:04Kim, she's great. She's a great host.
24:07Oh, no.
24:08Oh, no.
24:09But she has a lot of things in her life that she has to deal with.
24:13And she's a great host, too.
24:14And she's a great host and she's, you know, very hospitable.
24:18But at the same time, you don't know when she may be talking behind your back or just dealing with
24:24her own problems.
24:25And I think a lot of times with Kim, it's just, how's it going? How's the weather? Like, very surface
24:31level, so.
24:32Yeah.
24:35I heard Ethan was coming over. Do you want to get some time with him before he leaves?
24:40That's kind of the plan. We're working on his New Yorker together.
24:44Ethan is moving to Wisconsin, hoping to get back together with Tegan. And Zach wanted to know where he's at.
24:52It's hard to make a wise decision when you're in a hard place.
24:56Yeah.
24:58Like, if you don't have a healthy example of healthy relationships, how are you going to cultivate a healthy relationship?
25:06Yeah.
25:07Zach's kind of the only one who's wanting to and willing to, you know, talk to Ethan about his decision
25:14and why he's moving and everything.
25:15You're going to show him how it's done?
25:17Well.
25:27Hey Ethan, how's it going?
25:30I have had very little experience with cars.
25:33Better replace all these belts.
25:35See how shredded it is?
25:37Oh yeah, I think.
25:39The first rule of thumb, somebody shows up to work on a car in a white sweater.
25:53You want to come over here and hold this?
25:55Yeah.
25:58I always...
25:59All right, right there.
26:00Okay.
26:02Hold it there?
26:04Okay.
26:04Yep.
26:07It's so frustrating because I can't leave for Wisconsin until this thing is running.
26:13Yeah, so I just don't necessarily know Tegan too well?
26:16Well, she's an amazing mother.
26:19Probably the most patient, kind, loving person I've ever met.
26:22All right, you can release the tension.
26:24Okay.
26:25Pull it up.
26:31We just have one more belt here?
26:33Or are we just putting that same one back?
26:34Yeah, no, I'm just going to put that same one back on.
26:41Well, I guess I just...
26:43I know you guys kind of went back and forth quite a bit last year and obviously a lot was
26:50going on.
26:51Yeah.
26:52Because I feel like that's quite the commitment to go out there to show her that you care about her
26:57and do all that stuff.
27:01Moving across the country is a massive decision.
27:04I mean, I did it, so...
27:08If me and Tegan get back together, I know we're not ever going to break up again.
27:14I am, like, deeply irritated, but I tried to hide my irritation, just keep it inside where no one would
27:19see it,
27:20and answer the questions without really answering the questions.
27:25Even if I move all the way out there and we never get back together, that's still a risk I'm
27:29willing to take.
27:31Yeah.
27:34I think what I've come to recognize with Lydia and just how she speaks, but also just some of the
27:40past in general is that they may be short-winded, but they get to the point.
27:44As much as there is guard that he does have up, I personally think he's still answering my questions.
27:51I've heard things, but I don't know, obviously, how true they are just around, you know, a lot of money
27:59you spent with her and you giving a lot and her not necessarily giving in return or something like that,
28:07so...
28:09I don't know where Zach heard that from.
28:12Man, that stuff just pisses me off.
28:19I know those concerns have gone around and I'm not sure how true they are, that's why I want to
28:23talk to you about them, but...
28:27There's stuff that Zach was asking me that I haven't even talked to Mike and Isaac about, and if I
28:32haven't talked to them about them, I'm certainly not going to talk to Zach about that.
28:47I know those concerns have gone around and I'm not sure how true they are, that's why I want to
28:51talk to you about them, but...
28:53I've seen and heard Ethan just be hurt.
28:57He's had a lot of ups and downs with Tegan in terms of them breaking up and getting back together
29:02and just some concern, just as someone from the outside.
29:06And I know Lydia cares very deeply about him and so, in the way that she cares for him, I
29:12also want to show that I care and that we just don't want to see him hurt again.
29:18Families always only see one side.
29:20Yeah.
29:21You know.
29:22I mean, I did help Tegan when she needed it, and I don't regret that, I'd do it again.
29:29It's not like Tegan forced me to do anything, I did it because I wanted to.
29:34And that's just life, sometimes you pour a bunch into a relationship and it doesn't work out, but I don't
29:39think it's ever going to work out if you don't pour into it.
29:41So, whatever, who cares, you know, that stuff you do in a relationship for someone else.
29:46You know, like I, as a guy, I might think like, oh, you know, I fixed this for you or
29:51I gave you, you know, I gave you money so you could have, you know, have extra or get your
29:57car fixed or something like that.
29:59Sure.
29:59And I think like, oh, I did a lot.
30:00Well, for her, she's probably looking at that like, sure, he did that, but, you know, he's told me four
30:05times that he would move and then when that time comes, he's not here.
30:08Right.
30:08So, it goes both ways.
30:11Yeah.
30:12Sounds like you're going out there to figure it out together, which is good.
30:16Yeah.
30:16I just don't want to sit here and never know, always wonder if it.
30:19No, that's fair.
30:20Clarity is huge.
30:22I know all of that.
30:25Well, actually, I've got to put the drain plug and oil filter back on before we dump oil in it.
30:31No, that's fair.
30:34Based off of our conversation, I just feel like Ethan is just confused about his direction on whether or not
30:40Tegan and him are going to end up together.
30:42I feel like he's looking for the quick fix.
30:45I wish it was that easy, but it's not.
30:48Right.
30:48I'm in the five eights.
30:50There's this proving that he has for her because he disappointed her so many times by not showing up for
30:56her.
30:56And so, the way he shows up is he moves across the country for her and does everything he can
31:02for her.
31:03Put all this in, I think.
31:06In getting that, she might not give anything back.
31:08And that's the thing about situationships is what I would call it.
31:13There's that back and forth and you never know when you're going to give and never know when you're going
31:17to take.
31:17And if you take, then you have to make up for what you take.
31:21And if you give, you don't know if you're getting anything back.
31:24And so, that's why commitment is necessary in relationship.
31:29Well, it sounds like you're pretty set on trying to figure things out, which is good.
31:39Zach is not the only one that's talked to me or shown interest in me moving to Wisconsin.
31:45I've talked to all of my family members.
31:48Lydia and Zach were, I think, one of the last ones that I told.
31:56The only concern that some of my family members have voiced is like,
32:01just take care of yourself, don't go get yourself hurt again,
32:05which, you know, is completely understandable.
32:07It's cool to just get some more time with you,
32:10especially after, you know, a not ideal first meeting.
32:18Yeah.
32:22Lydia and I are experiencing a joy with each other
32:24that I don't feel Ethan has experienced for a very long time.
32:27I haven't seen a very pure smile from him.
32:30I feel like ever.
32:32I think he still has a lot of baggage from his marriage.
32:37This is the best way that I can show that I care.
32:43I just don't feel like he sees that.
32:47I think my intentions are often misunderstood.
32:57I miss Tegan very dearly and I'm like just really anxious to hit the road.
33:01I'm ready to get out of here.
33:03Get up there.
33:04See Tegan.
33:08Hell yeah!
33:10Hello, welcome.
33:12I was very excited to fly with Tegan.
33:15I thought Ethan and I should have separate rooms
33:17because I don't think friends share like hotel rooms together
33:21or living spaces like that.
33:49I was very excited to fly with Tegan.
33:52Drove up to Wisconsin.
33:53got to Wisconsin that night.
33:56And then I met her at the airport and we flew out.
33:59And by the time we made it to Montana,
34:01it was still an hour drive to the lodge.
34:04And, you know, it was very good to see Tegan,
34:07but also it's so different.
34:09Like, you just feel the distance, you know.
34:12Hello, hello, hello.
34:13Welcome.
34:14How are you?
34:15Well, we finally made it.
34:16It's really nice.
34:17I like it.
34:20I'm exhausted.
34:21It all went downhill from like the moment we got on the first plane.
34:26What happened?
34:29Well, got on our flight and then they grounded the flight for an hour and a half.
34:33And then we missed our flight in Denver because of that.
34:35I don't even know what day it is.
34:37Day Friday?
34:37Or Saturday?
34:39It's Friday?
34:40It's Friday.
34:40Yeah.
34:41Just a couple of little fun facts about our little lovely lodge.
34:44Ethan and I are not together.
34:46We broke up some months ago.
34:48I think really what it boiled down to in our relationship is I put him first
34:53and then he also put himself first.
34:55And so nobody was prioritizing me.
34:57And then, yeah, something sort of changed just inside myself.
35:02It was like a slap in the face sort of almost.
35:04Like I was just like, oh my God, what am I doing?
35:09As the Montana trip was getting closer,
35:12I still hadn't really made up my mind until very last minute.
35:17But in my mind I was like, well, I'm willing to try to be friends with Ethan.
35:23And I think he's willing and open to that too.
35:26We'll see where it goes.
35:28Sorry, there's no snow.
35:30No, that's okay.
35:31We have a bunch back home.
35:32So you're good.
35:33Ethan told me it's going to be Isaac Kalen, Mariah, him obviously.
35:36and then I was invited.
35:39And so I get along great with all of them.
35:42I'm excited for that part.
35:43I'm excited to go see them, the family.
35:49Okay.
35:50I feel like spending group time might be easier
35:52just because there's other people around
35:55and other conversations to be had.
35:57Aw.
35:58I don't know if my feet don't fit in there.
36:01Where do you want this?
36:02Um, you can just leave it.
36:07Well, it's really cute in here.
36:09It is.
36:10And you're in the cabin, right?
36:13Me and Tegan are staying in separate rooms.
36:16That was a little emotional for me to walk in the room
36:20and then she's staying in and there's stuff for me and her.
36:24like they assume we were both staying there.
36:26That's cute.
36:28It is perfectly fine with me and it's not an issue,
36:31but like, okay, this is where we're at compared to where we were.
36:36Just a little sad.
36:40I thought Ethan and I should have separate rooms
36:42because I don't think friends share like hotel rooms together
36:46or living spaces like that.
36:48Are you friends?
36:50Yeah, I would say we're friends.
36:52At least I think we are.
36:55Yeah.
36:55What do you think?
37:00Yeah, I guess.
37:05There's a letter.
37:09I mean, flowers.
37:11That's crazy.
37:23There's a bunch of coupley things.
37:26They made a mistake, you know, whatever.
37:27I'm not upset about it.
37:28It is what it is.
37:29But it is a little harder for him than it is for me.
37:33Ethan and Tegan, we're so happy you are here for a stay.
37:36Enjoy the robes for your stay.
37:42Ethan definitely is sad or depressed, but I definitely, like, agree with my boundaries.
37:49So I don't feel bad or sad about it at all.
37:54You should probably grab your stuff then, too.
37:56Oh, that's all sweet, so you can have it.
37:59No.
38:00Okay.
38:08Traveling was very nice.
38:10It was the first time in a long time that I got to spend any time with you.
38:16But it was also very emotional.
38:19Yeah?
38:19Why were you emotional?
38:23Because it was a long travel day?
38:25Were you tired?
38:34No, it was just emotional because I love you and it's hard to...
38:40I don't know.
38:40It was just a lot of feelings.
38:43A lot of them I don't know what to do with.
38:45And they don't have a home or a place to go, like, you know.
38:49Is there a chance of romance in the future?
38:54I don't know.
38:55You say you're good with wherever our relationship is, even if that's...
38:59If we're just friends right now.
39:00Mm-hmm.
39:01Yeah.
39:02So...
39:03We're friends.
39:04Mm-hmm.
39:11There are people who have captured audio...
39:15Of the call?
39:16Of a Bigfoot.
39:17Oh.
39:18It is like a...
39:20It's a language of sorts that's beyond what we understand.
39:25Mm-hmm.
39:26Like through a portal.
39:27What?
39:30Well, hello.
39:32Hey, guys.
39:32Hi, everybody.
39:33What's up?
39:34Hi.
39:35How are you?
39:36I'm so nice to meet you.
39:37I love your hair.
39:39Aw, thank you.
39:41Teagan's being kind of distant from Ethan, and he was so excited about her being out here.
39:47So, I understand if he's sad.
39:49I don't know.
39:50If it's not gonna work, it's not gonna work.
39:52And we're out.
39:53Come on.
39:56Why come to a whole different state with your ex-boyfriend and his family if you're not
40:03necessarily gonna, like, kind of make that effort?
40:06The last straw that sort of broke the camel's back of our relationship would be when I went
40:13to celebrate his birthday with him.
40:16The ice was already thin at that point.
40:18He was just acting really weird.
40:20I was looking at her, and it was like I was seeing my ex.
40:24Nice.
40:24Cheers.
40:24Cheers, of course.
40:24Cheers.
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