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Love Your Weekend with Alan Titchmarsh - Season 8 - Episode 05
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00:00:00The natural world in all its wonderment, and never more so than with the anticipation of new life.
00:00:06Great excitement here. It's scanning time at the farm.
00:00:09We're standing by to take a closer look at Gloria's unborn kid, or kids.
00:00:15She's going to be a new mum this spring.
00:00:17The anticipation has reached fever pitch.
00:00:19It's time for Love Your Weekend.
00:00:57Love Your Weekend
00:01:00Along Country Paths, followed by cosy evenings warming up by the fire in a country pub.
00:01:05Those that have survived, that is.
00:01:07And secluded getaways, perhaps in your very own log cabin, in the heart of the forest.
00:01:13We can but dream.
00:01:15Well, we may not have the log cabin, but we have a very nice barn.
00:01:19Coming up, she's the former East End icon,
00:01:21who went on to become a West End star in hit musicals like Sweet Charity, Grease and Stepping Out.
00:01:27Tamsin Arthwaite talks theatrical forays and her latest crime drama, Murder Before Even Song.
00:01:35And currently celebrating 20 years of music,
00:01:38singer-songwriter Jack Sabaretti back with a new album and a special night at the Royal Albert Hall, no less.
00:01:45Horticulturist Camilla Bassett-Smith opens the pages of her February diary.
00:01:50And renowned for their record-breaking sales throughout their 250-year history,
00:01:54we pay a visit to Europe's leading bloodstock auctioneers,
00:01:58where a single horse can fetch over three million pounds.
00:02:03Plus, we take a trip down the local.
00:02:05And when I say local, I mean about six feet in that direction.
00:02:09Beer sommelier, Jager Wise, hosts a pub crawl from the comfort of the barn
00:02:14with a whistle-stop tour of the UK's finest pale ales.
00:02:18Cheers to that, Jager.
00:02:25Bringing the drama, the music and the fun to the barn today,
00:02:29two people who've had more than their fair share of all of the above.
00:02:33Welcome, Tamsin Althwaite and Jack Sabaretti.
00:02:36Welcome to you both.
00:02:37It's very interesting.
00:02:38Sometimes you have to quieten them down in order to do your intro.
00:02:41I've been very, very busy in here this morning.
00:02:42Very, very chatting.
00:02:43I've got school kids over here.
00:02:44Lovely to have you both with us.
00:02:46Well, there was a little bit of Italian going on in there.
00:02:48So, Jack, tell us about your ancestry then.
00:02:51Clearly Italian.
00:02:52Yeah, Italian, but a bit of everything.
00:02:54We were just talking about opera.
00:02:55So I have Austrian and German in there as well,
00:02:56speaking of opera, great countries of opera music.
00:02:59Yeah.
00:02:59I was born in London, though, so I do have an English culture.
00:03:03I do have an English passport, for the record.
00:03:06Both parents Italian?
00:03:07No, so my mother was born to Polish-German refugees from the war.
00:03:11Father was Polish-Jewish, mother was German.
00:03:13They escaped to Paris, then to London.
00:03:14My father was very Italian.
00:03:16I mean, he was called Guido Savaretti, so he's Italian and Italian again.
00:03:19You see, it's the language, isn't it, Tamsin?
00:03:21Any Italian bloody...
00:03:22Yes, my mum was Italian.
00:03:24She was not with us anymore, but she was Italian.
00:03:27And so most of my family, I mean, we have a big Italian family.
00:03:31And my mum was called Anna Santi.
00:03:34And so all the British people, everyone called her Anna,
00:03:37but obviously all of the family were like, Anna.
00:03:39And all of the girls in our family, all our middle names are Maria.
00:03:43Oh, amazing.
00:03:44Maria, oh, really.
00:03:44Because apparently that's what happens.
00:03:46I was like, to my cousins, why are you Maria as well?
00:03:48So all the generation above were all, you know, Sandra Maria,
00:03:53and my cousin Francesca Maria, and I'm Tamsin Maria.
00:03:56Yeah, and that's very Italian.
00:03:57Where in Italy was she from?
00:03:58They're Tuscany, so in the north, near Lucca.
00:04:01Oh, beautiful.
00:04:02I've had some lovely holidays.
00:04:04It's a village of Lavga.
00:04:04And we still, I mean, the family still have a little place there
00:04:07that they grew up in, but we just don't visit often enough.
00:04:11And when I did Who Do You Think You Are,
00:04:13they took me up to the mountains of Italy
00:04:15and taught me all about my ancestors
00:04:17and how they were all chestnut farmers and very, very poor.
00:04:22That's my dream, is to do that show.
00:04:23Really?
00:04:23To find out exactly stuff like that.
00:04:26Like the detail, because I know a lot of my family history,
00:04:28but I'd love to know the detail.
00:04:29But it's a far cry from Italy to EastEnders, isn't it, really?
00:04:33It is.
00:04:33Although there's lots of Italians in the EastEnders.
00:04:35Yeah, I was going to say.
00:04:36Do you, presumably, because you're over here,
00:04:39you're across EastEnders.
00:04:40Of course.
00:04:41I mean, I was talking about it before with somebody,
00:04:44that that drum intro is kind of like triggers in me.
00:04:47All together, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:04:49Yeah, that was a signal of kids go to bed.
00:04:51So I still get this kind of like,
00:04:52I've got to get ready for school tomorrow when I hear that.
00:04:56It still gets me every time.
00:04:58Boof, boof, boof.
00:04:59It also triggers me when I hear it,
00:05:01but for very different reasons.
00:05:03You don't hear it on set, do you?
00:05:05No, of course not.
00:05:07But it's more that, you know,
00:05:09the storylines and everything,
00:05:11the amount that you go through
00:05:12in a very short period of time as a character.
00:05:15You know, you're sliding down walls, crying.
00:05:17And so I think when I hear that music,
00:05:21that kind of takes me back to a time
00:05:22where I was probably crying.
00:05:24Do you go into character, like, still now when you're here?
00:05:26Do you go back to that?
00:05:28I do have a very good friend that every time I speak,
00:05:31he pulls out his phone and goes,
00:05:33doof, doof.
00:05:34And when we've been on holiday together.
00:05:37That never gets old.
00:05:38And everyone's still lost.
00:05:40I'm literally like,
00:05:41did anyone bring the milk?
00:05:42Doof, doof.
00:05:44That's brilliant.
00:05:46So talking of music,
00:05:48I mean, you've done huge musicals,
00:05:50but you, I mean, your life is music.
00:05:52And being Italian,
00:05:54I mean, every Italian's life is music and musical.
00:05:57The best operas come out of Italy, you know.
00:05:58So it is a musical language,
00:06:00apart from anything else, isn't it?
00:06:02It is.
00:06:03I mean, again, we were talking about that before.
00:06:05It's all vowels.
00:06:06So I just did an Italian album,
00:06:08just in between the last time I came here.
00:06:10I came here with Zuccaro to see you a while back,
00:06:12another great Italian singer.
00:06:14And in between that,
00:06:15my father passed away
00:06:16and I actually went back to Italy
00:06:17to make an Italian album
00:06:18because I was so enamored
00:06:20by how much Italian music was able to trigger out
00:06:22what I needed to deal with
00:06:25to find a solution through grief.
00:06:27And that actually made me fall in love
00:06:28with songwriting all over again
00:06:30because writing in Italian is very different
00:06:32than writing in English.
00:06:33Poetry really matters in Italian.
00:06:35Being colloquial in Italian is very cheesy.
00:06:38Being poetic is wonderful.
00:06:39You've married in Musicland a dramatic career.
00:06:41I mean, you know, sweet charity.
00:06:44Lead role.
00:06:45Fun.
00:06:46A long time ago now.
00:06:48Doesn't matter.
00:06:48It's part of your life.
00:06:49It's part of our life.
00:06:51I remember you in it.
00:06:52Yeah, I mean, it is part of my life.
00:06:54It's a huge part of my life.
00:06:55I did it for a year, really.
00:06:57In the end, it was a whole year
00:06:58at the Chocolate Factory
00:07:00and then at the Haymarket.
00:07:02But before I did EastEnders
00:07:04and before I did any TV,
00:07:06I did eight years of musical theatre
00:07:07in the West End.
00:07:08So that was my home.
00:07:10So it wasn't like I was trying it out later
00:07:12once I'd kind of been on telly.
00:07:14It felt like going home a bit, I suppose.
00:07:17It might have been a while ago,
00:07:18but I think we ought to have a look.
00:07:19Oh.
00:07:38They'd never believe it
00:07:42They'd never believe it
00:07:44If my friends could see me now
00:07:50Hey, girls, it's me, Charity!
00:07:54Woo!
00:08:00Oh.
00:08:01It's such a physical role, isn't it?
00:08:03Yeah, it was.
00:08:04With the dance moves and everything.
00:08:05I mean, night after night, exhausting.
00:08:08But you were fit then, weren't you?
00:08:09Oh, yeah.
00:08:10I was...
00:08:11I had the best kind of physique
00:08:13I've ever had at the age of 40.
00:08:16And I remember thinking,
00:08:17you have to do eight shows a week
00:08:18being nine numbers.
00:08:20That'll do it.
00:08:20Yeah, and one quick change
00:08:22and there was one number I wasn't in
00:08:23which was the famous Big Spender
00:08:26which all the other girls did
00:08:27and that was my kind of rest.
00:08:30And I just...
00:08:31I was shattered
00:08:31but I was in physical...
00:08:34in the prime of my life, I suppose.
00:08:36Yeah, but, yeah.
00:08:37I mean, I often think about
00:08:39doing another musical
00:08:40but I think I'd have to do something
00:08:42a little bit less taxing.
00:08:44You can do Madame Armfelt
00:08:46in Little Night Music.
00:08:47She comes on in a wheelchair.
00:08:49Yes.
00:08:49Save that one for later.
00:08:50Save it for a bit later.
00:08:52But you both obviously need...
00:08:53You were talking about
00:08:54living in the countryside now,
00:08:56living in Oxfordshire.
00:08:57I mean, you clearly find the countryside
00:08:59the safety valve, really.
00:09:02I do, but it's also because
00:09:03I kind of don't belong in it.
00:09:05I feel safe.
00:09:06I've never belonged.
00:09:06I've always moved around as a kid
00:09:08so I've always been the guy
00:09:09from out of town, so to speak.
00:09:10And that served me well.
00:09:11Actually, I really like that feeling.
00:09:13And the countryside is the same.
00:09:15I'm sort of a stranger
00:09:16in the countryside.
00:09:17And I like that because
00:09:19I retain the curiosity
00:09:21of a stranger.
00:09:22I don't take it for granted.
00:09:23The minute I take anything
00:09:24for granted
00:09:25is usually when I try
00:09:26to sort of shake things up a bit.
00:09:27But City Girl, really,
00:09:28but I finish it with countryside.
00:09:30Ah, City Girl,
00:09:30but I spend a lot of time
00:09:31in West Oxfordshire now.
00:09:33Oh, yeah, that's near where we are.
00:09:34Is it?
00:09:35Yeah, yeah.
00:09:35Oh, we'll talk about that.
00:09:37Later.
00:09:37We do do supper tonight.
00:09:40It's, um,
00:09:41as I think,
00:09:42as I've got older,
00:09:43I've been less about the city.
00:09:45But if I spend too much time
00:09:47in the countryside,
00:09:47I do crave the city
00:09:49and I think that that's
00:09:50deep-rooted in me.
00:09:51There's nothing I can do about that.
00:09:52The bright lights.
00:09:54Yeah, and I think
00:09:55it's the convenience
00:09:56of knowing you can walk
00:09:57to the shop for anything.
00:09:58At any time.
00:09:59At any time.
00:10:00And that's what we have in London.
00:10:01And so, you know,
00:10:03you have to get everything in.
00:10:04And I love it.
00:10:05What I love most about it
00:10:06is the garden
00:10:07and the gardening.
00:10:08My dream is to actually
00:10:09have a garden
00:10:10where I can grow
00:10:11all my own veg,
00:10:12all my own herbs.
00:10:14And I managed it,
00:10:16I think,
00:10:16for about three months.
00:10:18And then...
00:10:19So much for that.
00:10:20Yeah.
00:10:21Because there's so much
00:10:22maintenance involved.
00:10:24You have to be around.
00:10:25You can't take off
00:10:26and go and do a job
00:10:26for four months
00:10:27and you come back
00:10:28and the carrots
00:10:29and everything's done.
00:10:30I'll get you a book.
00:10:31Could you?
00:10:32I think I've got your book.
00:10:33Oh, good.
00:10:33That's all right.
00:10:34Don't tell me it didn't work.
00:10:36More from Tamsin and Jack later.
00:10:39Sweet sponges,
00:10:40scrumptious and sticky.
00:10:41It's our Sunday morning spread.
00:10:43Here you are.
00:10:44Help yourselves.
00:10:45Still ahead,
00:10:45Leslie Joseph
00:10:46heads down that garden path
00:10:47once more
00:10:48with some positive PR.
00:10:49This time
00:10:50for the red squirrel.
00:10:51And to a creature
00:10:52who needs no positive spin,
00:10:54adorable, affectionate,
00:10:56fond of being stroked
00:10:57and petted.
00:10:58No, not more
00:10:59from Leslie Joseph,
00:11:00but our Guernsey goats.
00:11:02And with the champagne
00:11:03on standby
00:11:04as Gloria
00:11:05is set to become
00:11:06a new mum,
00:11:07I'll be catching up
00:11:08with the goats,
00:11:09the farmer
00:11:09and the sonographer
00:11:10for that all-important scan
00:11:12right after this.
00:11:27There's a particular allure
00:11:30that comes to the British countryside
00:11:32with the winter months.
00:11:33Literary lovers
00:11:34will flock to the Pennine Moors
00:11:36to evoke visions
00:11:37of Wuthering Heights
00:11:38while the country's coastline
00:11:40is especially enchanting
00:11:41on a stormy day.
00:11:42Equally enchanting
00:11:43is today's show.
00:11:45Coming up,
00:11:46he's the award-winning
00:11:47singer-songwriter
00:11:48who moved from
00:11:49busy city life
00:11:50to the idyllic
00:11:51Oxfordshire countryside
00:11:52almost nine years ago now.
00:11:54Jack Savaretti
00:11:55on working with
00:11:56his musical idols,
00:11:58his Italian heritage
00:11:59and making his home
00:12:00in the British countryside.
00:12:02And he's either
00:12:03the Poirot of the plant world
00:12:04or the Columbo
00:12:05of the countryside.
00:12:07I'll let you decide.
00:12:08Tristan Gooley
00:12:09on reading the signs
00:12:10and clues in nature
00:12:11and you'd be surprised
00:12:13how much we can learn
00:12:14from them.
00:12:15Now, there are many reasons
00:12:17to love the snowdrop
00:12:19or galanthus
00:12:20as it's known
00:12:20in the botanical world.
00:12:22It's the first sign of life
00:12:23after a long winter
00:12:25but this delicate flower
00:12:26is also able to survive
00:12:28temperatures well below freezing
00:12:30and even generate
00:12:31its own natural antifreeze.
00:12:33With more than
00:12:33two and a half thousand
00:12:34varieties recorded
00:12:35and some blooms
00:12:36fetching astonishing prices
00:12:37that have inspired
00:12:38collectors and gardeners
00:12:39for centuries,
00:12:40here to tell us more
00:12:41in the first part
00:12:42of her February diary
00:12:44is Camilla Bassett-Smith.
00:12:46Do you count yourself
00:12:47as a galanthophile?
00:12:48Silly question
00:12:48because there you are.
00:12:49Yes, I think I do.
00:12:50I'm a rather large one
00:12:51and I'm not quite as good
00:12:52in the cold as they are
00:12:53but yes, I have caught
00:12:54galanthophilia
00:12:55and I think you have too
00:12:56as well.
00:12:56I have.
00:12:57It's very easy to catch
00:12:58and at this time of year
00:12:59when so little is on offer
00:13:00in the garden
00:13:01in terms of,
00:13:01well, I say colour,
00:13:03interest,
00:13:04we get a glorious
00:13:05rare snowdrop.
00:13:05They're so elegantly
00:13:06ethereal, aren't they?
00:13:08And they're just,
00:13:08you know, they're hardy.
00:13:09They look delicate
00:13:10but they are so, so hardy.
00:13:12Well, they have, don't they?
00:13:13In these tips of the leaves here,
00:13:17there's a special formula for that.
00:13:19It's very, very hard
00:13:20and the other common name
00:13:21for snowdrop is snowpiercer
00:13:22and these,
00:13:24when they're coming up
00:13:24through the ground,
00:13:25they're particularly hard
00:13:25and they can actually
00:13:26push through frozen.
00:13:26They do, they poke through
00:13:27and also thermal qualities as well.
00:13:29A lot of research
00:13:29has been done on that,
00:13:30I think,
00:13:31that they also,
00:13:32if there's a patch of snow above them,
00:13:33you'll often see
00:13:34that that's melted
00:13:34and so they're very clever
00:13:36as well, aren't they?
00:13:37So they're actually
00:13:38melting the snow
00:13:38by virtue of the energy
00:13:39within the plant.
00:13:40So they're amazing little plants
00:13:42but they're so beautiful
00:13:42and the differences between them
00:13:44are so intricate, aren't they?
00:13:46You really have to start to look.
00:13:47Two and a half thousand varieties.
00:13:48There can't be
00:13:49two and a half thousand differences,
00:13:50can there really?
00:13:51Hostess.
00:13:52Yes.
00:13:53Yeah, but so minute.
00:13:54This one is James Backhouse
00:13:56and I dug this clump up
00:13:57from my garden earlier
00:13:58and the interesting thing about this,
00:14:00it's quite a large snowdrop.
00:14:02It's an Atkinsii.
00:14:03Yeah.
00:14:03But it throws up abnormalities
00:14:05above the ovary
00:14:06with extra petals
00:14:07which is really quite odd,
00:14:10isn't it?
00:14:10It is odd
00:14:10but intriguing.
00:14:12Yeah, it's nonetheless
00:14:13still quite beautiful
00:14:14and unique.
00:14:15Yeah.
00:14:16So that's James Backhouse.
00:14:17That's James Backhouse.
00:14:18But those differences
00:14:19that are being bred,
00:14:19now the yellow snowdrop,
00:14:21I know you've had yellows
00:14:22in your time.
00:14:23Well, there's one,
00:14:24Primrose Warburg
00:14:25is quite a good one.
00:14:26And what's this one?
00:14:27This is Madeline
00:14:28and you can see here
00:14:29the yellow ovary
00:14:30as opposed to the green one
00:14:31on most of them.
00:14:33And the most expensive one
00:14:35ever sold to date
00:14:36was, I think it was
00:14:37a Joe Sharman introduction
00:14:38in 2022
00:14:39for £1,850
00:14:42for one bowl.
00:14:43Oh, don't lose it.
00:14:44You're terrified, aren't you?
00:14:45You're planting anything.
00:14:46Where did I put it?
00:14:47I have to say,
00:14:48that's not that price
00:14:49and you don't have to pay
00:14:50that, do you?
00:14:50You know,
00:14:51you can get a pot
00:14:51in a garden centre
00:14:52for five months.
00:14:52And you've got this
00:14:52little beauty.
00:14:53This is York Minster.
00:14:55It is.
00:14:55You do need to look
00:14:56at them closely,
00:14:57don't you?
00:14:57And you can see here
00:14:58the insides,
00:15:00the outer petals there
00:15:02and then the inner ones there.
00:15:03It's quite green, isn't it?
00:15:04A darker green.
00:15:04Yes.
00:15:05And then you've got,
00:15:05you like the name of this one,
00:15:06this one's called Trumps.
00:15:08It is.
00:15:08Yes.
00:15:09I say no more.
00:15:11Except there's a race of them.
00:15:12They have these broader petals
00:15:15I like this race of plants
00:15:16from a variety called Trim.
00:15:18Yes.
00:15:19There are lots of variations
00:15:20on it.
00:15:20There are, yeah.
00:15:21And finally,
00:15:22this one, Godfrey Owen.
00:15:24Now, most snowdrops
00:15:25have three outer petals
00:15:26and three inners
00:15:27but this has six
00:15:29and it almost looks
00:15:30like a crinoline skirt,
00:15:31doesn't it?
00:15:32It does.
00:15:32And this one I've found
00:15:33clumps up quite well,
00:15:35surprisingly.
00:15:36Yeah.
00:15:36Because you'd think
00:15:37that might be a bit delicate.
00:15:38I've not brought them before.
00:15:39I'm trying to plant them
00:15:39and move them.
00:15:40Of course,
00:15:40it's now while they're
00:15:41in the green.
00:15:42That's it.
00:15:42Yes,
00:15:42it's the best time
00:15:43and also you can keep
00:15:44an eye on them
00:15:45in garden centres.
00:15:46Just plant them out
00:15:46as they are.
00:15:47And you'll be back later.
00:15:48I shall indeed.
00:15:49You will.
00:15:49Filling this month
00:15:50with more horticultural vigour.
00:15:52Thanks, Camilla.
00:15:52We'll see you then.
00:15:59Now to one of Britain's
00:16:00rarest farm animals
00:16:02and one that was granted
00:16:02a royal title in 2024.
00:16:05The Royal Guernsey Goat
00:16:07is so endangered
00:16:08it's considered rarer
00:16:10than the giant panda
00:16:11and with estimates
00:16:12suggesting fewer than
00:16:13a thousand breeding age
00:16:14females
00:16:15every birth
00:16:16really does count.
00:16:18So thankfully
00:16:18here on the farm
00:16:19we have a few
00:16:20pregnant nannies
00:16:21helping secure
00:16:22the future
00:16:23of this remarkable
00:16:24and rather beautiful breed.
00:16:26To tell us more
00:16:27farmer Tom Davies
00:16:28and then we'll be joined
00:16:29by animal sonographer
00:16:30Sam Wilkinson
00:16:31to find out
00:16:32just what we've got
00:16:33over here.
00:16:34So Royal Guernsey Goats
00:16:36very grand.
00:16:37Yes,
00:16:37so once they receive
00:16:38that royal title
00:16:39you wouldn't have wanted
00:16:40to have to change
00:16:40all of the paraphernalia
00:16:42and leaflets
00:16:42to put royal
00:16:43in front of Golden Guernsey
00:16:45but a tremendous breed
00:16:46and one of our
00:16:47native breeds of goat
00:16:48and you know
00:16:50they are superb
00:16:51at producing
00:16:52a good amount of milk
00:16:53that was quite rich
00:16:54in butterfats
00:16:55and stuff like that
00:16:56but not milking
00:16:57the same volumes
00:16:58as some of these
00:16:59Swiss
00:16:59modern,
00:17:00more modern Swiss breeds
00:17:01so they were ideal
00:17:03for the smaller
00:17:04farm holdings
00:17:05on the island
00:17:06of Guernsey
00:17:07and then for small holders
00:17:09up and down the country.
00:17:10So the characteristics
00:17:11are the long
00:17:12very silky coat
00:17:13the colour
00:17:14which is either
00:17:15as far as
00:17:16brown as caramel
00:17:17or this lovely
00:17:17creamy gold
00:17:18so those are
00:17:19the characteristics
00:17:20long hair
00:17:20good buttermilk
00:17:21in the fat
00:17:22and this glorious colour.
00:17:24Yes,
00:17:24a good medium sized goat
00:17:26you know
00:17:26and they've got to
00:17:27I like them to be
00:17:27really dark
00:17:28but we've ended up
00:17:29with quite a few
00:17:30light ones
00:17:31but I like the nice
00:17:32dark rich golden colour
00:17:33but you know
00:17:34we've used a new
00:17:36billy goat this time
00:17:37so he was only a kid
00:17:38born in 2025
00:17:39so he was
00:17:40at the tail end
00:17:41of last year
00:17:42he was there
00:17:43ready to go
00:17:43and fingers crossed
00:17:47he's worked
00:17:48and his genetics
00:17:49will carry on
00:17:50because he's very important
00:17:51in the fact
00:17:52that we chose him
00:17:54for doing a job
00:17:56so to improve
00:17:57the colour
00:17:58and also as well
00:17:59the utter confirmation
00:18:00in the nannies
00:18:01so make sure
00:18:01that the attachment
00:18:02is good
00:18:02so he comes from
00:18:04good show
00:18:04and milking lines
00:18:05in his back catalogue
00:18:06what resulted in them
00:18:08being so diminished
00:18:09what has resulted in them
00:18:11being really quite rare
00:18:11I think one of the
00:18:13factors is this coat
00:18:14you know
00:18:15it does take some maintenance
00:18:16so they're not the easiest
00:18:17to look after
00:18:18so they need a bit of grooming
00:18:20and stuff like this
00:18:21and with a lot of the
00:18:23more modern
00:18:24popular Swiss breeds
00:18:25it's volume
00:18:26as with all things
00:18:28in agriculture
00:18:29it boils down to the volume
00:18:31how old are they
00:18:32when they're put into kids
00:18:33so I don't put any
00:18:35into kid
00:18:36until they're two years old
00:18:37just so that they've
00:18:39grown that frame
00:18:40and their bodies
00:18:40are mature enough
00:18:41and ready
00:18:42to take that pregnancy
00:18:44and when is the billy
00:18:45put to the nanny
00:18:45so we put the billy
00:18:47in the tail end
00:18:48of October
00:18:51a little bit later
00:18:52than usual
00:18:53because generally
00:18:54if we were sort of
00:18:55going out showing
00:18:56and stuff like that
00:18:57showing the sheep
00:18:57especially
00:18:58we would want to be
00:18:59lambing sort of now
00:19:01so gestation is how long
00:19:02it's about five months
00:19:03give or take
00:19:05you know
00:19:05so you'd sort of
00:19:06be looking at about that
00:19:07so generally
00:19:08the old wives tale
00:19:09goes with sort of
00:19:10sheep and goats
00:19:10that if you put the
00:19:11the billy or the ram
00:19:12in on a bonfire night
00:19:15you then have goats
00:19:16or kids or lambs
00:19:17on April Fool's Day
00:19:18so generally
00:19:19that's where you'd
00:19:20sort of be
00:19:20a rough estimate
00:19:21of how you go
00:19:22but also as well
00:19:24it ties in
00:19:26hopefully
00:19:27these kidding
00:19:28with Easter
00:19:29so you know
00:19:30a peak in interest
00:19:31and visitor numbers
00:19:32at the farm
00:19:33and what better way
00:19:35to say
00:19:35Happy Easter
00:19:36than lambs and kids
00:19:38bouncing around the place
00:19:39I think it's time
00:19:40we've found out
00:19:40what we've got
00:19:41inside these three nannies
00:19:43Sam who's the sonographer
00:19:44Sam do come in
00:19:45and join us
00:19:45you've got your
00:19:46equipment back there
00:19:47so we can scan
00:19:49these nannies
00:19:50and see
00:19:51well if we're going
00:19:52to get anything
00:19:52and how many
00:19:53we're going to get
00:19:54what's the normal
00:19:55rate of
00:19:56well sometimes
00:19:57there'll be multiples
00:19:58but we'll see
00:20:00we'll put this one
00:20:01right here
00:20:02come here my darling
00:20:02have a look at this one
00:20:03first
00:20:04and we reverse up
00:20:05to Sam
00:20:05so this is the
00:20:07ultrasound
00:20:08this is the ultrasound
00:20:09same as they use
00:20:10pregnant women
00:20:11yep
00:20:12so let's see
00:20:13what we can see
00:20:13on the screen
00:20:14here we go
00:20:14so we've definitely
00:20:15got a pregnancy here
00:20:16we're looking at
00:20:17all these donut shapes
00:20:18they're the cotyledons
00:20:19that's telling me
00:20:20there's a pregnancy
00:20:21I'm using cotyledons
00:20:22on beans
00:20:23germinating
00:20:24not goat
00:20:24it's the percenters
00:20:25for the actual
00:20:26kids itself
00:20:27and you can actually
00:20:28see all the lines
00:20:29of the rib cage there
00:20:30yeah
00:20:31and you can actually
00:20:32see a little heartbeat
00:20:34flickering in that screen
00:20:35oh gosh yes
00:20:37and then
00:20:38how long have you
00:20:39trained to do this
00:20:40so you could tell
00:20:40what you were looking at
00:20:41oh it takes a good
00:20:42three years of actually
00:20:43scanning but I've been
00:20:44scanning 36 years
00:20:46so you've got used to now
00:20:47I've got a little bit
00:20:48used to it now
00:20:49after doing 85,000
00:20:50sheep in the season
00:20:51oh my goodness me
00:20:53so how many have we
00:20:54got in there do you think
00:20:55so right
00:20:57so I'm going through
00:20:57the pregnancy
00:20:58so here we've got
00:20:59one here
00:21:02and we've got a second
00:21:03one down here
00:21:03right
00:21:05so we've got two in there
00:21:06so she's got two in there
00:21:07but also with this machine
00:21:09I can actually tell
00:21:10how far gone they are
00:21:12there we go
00:21:13it has given me
00:21:1563 days gone
00:21:17right
00:21:17does that accord Tom
00:21:19with your
00:21:20thereabouts
00:21:20I think
00:21:21it's about two months
00:21:22yeah
00:21:22thereabouts
00:21:23okay
00:21:24so now
00:21:25another three months
00:21:26to go then
00:21:27yes
00:21:27yes
00:21:28so there we go
00:21:29right so you've got two
00:21:30let's go
00:21:31do you want to get Gloria in
00:21:33I'll get Gloria in
00:21:34come on Gloria
00:21:34let's see
00:21:35see how you're doing
00:21:36hold that one for me
00:21:37that'd be brilliant
00:21:38right come on Gloria
00:21:39there you go
00:21:40good girl
00:21:41there you go Gloria
00:21:42now good luck Gloria
00:21:43turn you around
00:21:43you've got two to beat
00:21:45what do you like Tom
00:21:46what do you prefer
00:21:47how many do you prefer
00:21:48well you'd like to have
00:21:49twins
00:21:50yeah
00:21:50it's Gloria's first time
00:21:52having kids this year
00:21:53right
00:21:54so
00:21:55we'll see what she's got
00:21:57so she gets three
00:21:57it's going to be a bit of a shock
00:21:58one of them
00:21:59we'll have to
00:22:00we'll have to
00:22:00supportively feed that
00:22:01we have got one sitting here
00:22:04that's the first kid
00:22:06and you actually see the ribcage
00:22:08so I'm actually making sure
00:22:09the head and bodies are connected
00:22:11to make sure I'm not over counting
00:22:13yeah
00:22:13and here's the second one down here
00:22:16yeah
00:22:17that's telling me
00:22:18that's there
00:22:18so you've got twins
00:22:19and then we've got a third one
00:22:20oh you've got three
00:22:21you've got triplets
00:22:23so three Tom
00:22:24does that
00:22:24well that's a bit of extra work for us both
00:22:26yeah
00:22:26but we're more than capable
00:22:27maybe if you see me later on
00:22:29if I was to bring the kids back
00:22:31I might have some bigger bags under my eyes
00:22:33but you know
00:22:34it's
00:22:35you know
00:22:35the main thing is
00:22:36as long as they're happy and healthy kids
00:22:38we can get them through
00:22:40so with Gloria having three
00:22:41you'll probably have to bottle feed the third one
00:22:43but the others
00:22:43do they get supplements as well
00:22:45or are they just on the teeth
00:22:46and that there
00:22:46well the amount of milk
00:22:47that the Guernseys generally produce
00:22:49is enough to do them
00:22:50and
00:22:50when I say about bottle feeding the extra one
00:22:52it will probably be bottle fed with milk from mum
00:22:55it's just that there isn't an extra team there for them
00:22:58so that's exactly what we'll do
00:23:00and we'll just monitor them
00:23:01and we'll keep them
00:23:02I aim to
00:23:04keep the kids with the nannies
00:23:08right up until I've got no other option to take it away
00:23:11because staying with mum and those siblings
00:23:13is a better option
00:23:14wonderful
00:23:15it's always a delight
00:23:16you know Tom brings us such tremendous animals
00:23:18so beautifully cared for
00:23:19with such knowledge about such a wide range of animals
00:23:22and bloodlines and how to breed
00:23:24and all this kind of thing
00:23:25we learn such a lot from you
00:23:27Tom thank you very much
00:23:27and Sam thank you for your 30 odd years of expertise
00:23:30no problem
00:23:31if you'd have said there are 15 in there
00:23:33I'd have been a bit worried
00:23:34but three will do
00:23:36congratulations to you all
00:23:37thank you
00:23:37and guys you are
00:23:38guys
00:23:39girls
00:23:39you are so well behaved
00:23:41it's a pleasure to have you
00:23:42now then coming up
00:23:44it's the place where kings
00:23:45sheikhs
00:23:46and celebrities
00:23:47flock to find the next great racehorse
00:23:49we go behind the scenes
00:23:51at one of Europe's leading bloodstock auctioneers
00:23:53and he's the man with a voice
00:23:55as rich as the soil
00:23:57here at Manor Farm
00:23:58with an army of dedicated fans
00:24:00who've helped him achieve
00:24:01two consecutive number one albums
00:24:03Jack Sabaretti
00:24:04talk's chart toppers
00:24:06collaborating with his heroes
00:24:08and a very special night
00:24:09at the Royal Albert Hall
00:24:11I'll see you with Jack
00:24:12for some musical chit chat
00:24:14right after this
00:24:30welcome back to Love Your Weekend
00:24:32coming up
00:24:33murder
00:24:33heists
00:24:34and complex relationships
00:24:36with characters like
00:24:37Ian Beale
00:24:38and Jack Branning
00:24:39all in a day's work
00:24:40for this lady
00:24:41Tamsin Althwaite
00:24:42on swapping the square
00:24:43for the stage
00:24:44and winning rave reviews
00:24:46in the process
00:24:46and to a lady
00:24:48who wouldn't look out of place
00:24:49in the Queen Vic
00:24:50Manor Farm's
00:24:51first landlady
00:24:52Jacob Wise
00:24:53raises the bar
00:24:54with some winter pale ales
00:24:56that really are
00:24:56the top of the hops
00:24:58and not a
00:24:59get out of my pub
00:25:00to be a
00:25:01this side of Basin Stoke
00:25:02Bird's Purse
00:25:03is the English-Italian
00:25:05singer-songwriter
00:25:06known for his
00:25:07soulful narrative lyrics
00:25:09multilingual skills
00:25:10English-Italian
00:25:11French
00:25:12just to be precise
00:25:13no one likes
00:25:14a show-off Jack
00:25:15currently celebrating
00:25:1620 years of making
00:25:17amazing music
00:25:18he's back with
00:25:19a brand new album
00:25:20and a one-off performance
00:25:21at the Royal Albert Hall
00:25:23he is of course
00:25:24the very talented
00:25:25Jack Severetti
00:25:26I'm out on my own
00:25:30making my way
00:25:33trying to be someone
00:25:37that I can be proud of
00:25:39one day
00:25:40cause we laughed
00:25:42and we danced
00:25:43and we never looked back
00:25:45nothing would get in our way
00:25:49and you showed me
00:25:51the meaning
00:25:52of love and romance
00:25:54how I miss the song
00:25:57that you play
00:25:59so come and kiss me
00:26:02before the song goes down
00:26:05cause in the dark hands
00:26:08it's not the same
00:26:10it's not the same
00:26:11I can't believe it baby
00:26:13I can't believe it's true
00:26:15I can't believe it baby
00:26:18I can't believe
00:26:20it's happening
00:26:21to me and you
00:26:24and your entire life
00:26:26flashes before you
00:26:28wow
00:26:28that's the first time
00:26:29I've really ever done that
00:26:31I need like a therapy session
00:26:32now to talk that through
00:26:33cause I remember so clearly
00:26:35so we can get through
00:26:35this together
00:26:36Jack
00:26:36it's alright
00:26:37see I'm kind
00:26:38just thinking about our business
00:26:39they keep showing you
00:26:40when you were
00:26:41just a little
00:26:41you don't look any different
00:26:42but
00:26:43no no
00:26:43there was a kid
00:26:44there was a few kids
00:26:46and Kylie in there
00:26:48as well
00:26:48I was just thinking that
00:26:50but I refuse now
00:26:52to be nostalgic
00:26:52that's kind of like
00:26:53a big part of my
00:26:54next phase
00:26:55a big part of my
00:26:57midlife crisis
00:26:57is refusing to be nostalgic
00:26:59oh come on then
00:26:59therapy
00:27:00so why
00:27:02don't pretend
00:27:02you didn't do
00:27:03what you did
00:27:04because that's what
00:27:04we loved you see
00:27:05so that's alright
00:27:06no not at all
00:27:06but that's still
00:27:07a big part of me
00:27:08I used to look back
00:27:10on things
00:27:10as if they were gone
00:27:11we were talking
00:27:12about it earlier
00:27:13and it's more now
00:27:14about realising
00:27:15that those things
00:27:16that'll always be a part of me
00:27:17each and every one
00:27:18of those songs
00:27:19each and every one
00:27:19of those experiences
00:27:20those videos
00:27:21those collaborations
00:27:21they're still a part of me
00:27:23I don't want to look at it
00:27:24as something that's been and gone
00:27:25it's something that makes me
00:27:26who I am today
00:27:27and also audiences
00:27:28I think it must be very difficult
00:27:29for performers
00:27:30because people want it
00:27:31always want to hear
00:27:32Shirley Bassey sing
00:27:33Big Spender
00:27:33or Goldfinger
00:27:34and you want to give them those
00:27:36but also move forward
00:27:38and do new work as well
00:27:39and the combination
00:27:39of the two things
00:27:40getting that bit right
00:27:42I think
00:27:42so you're satisfying
00:27:43your own creative instincts
00:27:45but also not shortchanging
00:27:46your audience
00:27:47really
00:27:47I mean I've been
00:27:48I say this tongue in cheek
00:27:50I've been blessed
00:27:50in the sense that
00:27:51I've never had the hit
00:27:53I've never had that one song
00:27:55we've had wonderfully
00:27:56successful records
00:27:57wonderfully successful
00:27:58sort of periods of time
00:27:59of touring
00:28:00and everything
00:28:00so our fans have sort of
00:28:02been supportive
00:28:02of a bigger picture
00:28:03not really one song
00:28:04and I have to be honest
00:28:06yeah there was times
00:28:07where I'm sure
00:28:07we all could have done
00:28:08with a little help
00:28:09from a hit song
00:28:10but I'm very grateful
00:28:12that we never did
00:28:12because that expectation
00:28:13has been removed entirely
00:28:15from my professional
00:28:16from all the things
00:28:17that sort of
00:28:18I guess stress us out
00:28:19or things that we have
00:28:20to come to terms
00:28:20and sometimes fight
00:28:21to get heard
00:28:22or to do what we do
00:28:23to do what we love
00:28:25tell me about the new album
00:28:27what's special about it
00:28:28how different is it
00:28:29well exactly that
00:28:30I mean jokes aside
00:28:31I turned sort of
00:28:3342 years ago
00:28:34I can't even remember
00:28:36turning
00:28:37I mean I can't remember either
00:28:38it was only two years ago
00:28:39it was a great night
00:28:40it was a great party
00:28:41but I did turn it
00:28:43and I sort of looked
00:28:44to midlife crisis
00:28:45jokes aside
00:28:46right in the eye
00:28:47or as Carl Jung calls it
00:28:48the afternoon of life
00:28:49showed up
00:28:50and that was a real moment
00:28:53and rather than
00:28:54looking at my life
00:28:55with nostalgia
00:28:56which I've been doing
00:28:57pretty much my entire life
00:28:58I've been nostalgic
00:28:58and melancholic
00:28:59since I was born
00:29:00since I can remember
00:29:01and that might be
00:29:01the Mediterranean side of me
00:29:03but I wanted to sort of
00:29:04reclaim my youth
00:29:06and realize that it's
00:29:08I will forever be young
00:29:09it's that old
00:29:10Bob Dylan song
00:29:10that Joan Baez
00:29:11sang so well
00:29:12forever young
00:29:12I want to retain that
00:29:14and first it started
00:29:15by looking at myself
00:29:16and realizing
00:29:16I'm always going to be
00:29:17the way I was
00:29:18but then it really
00:29:20found value
00:29:20when I look at relationships
00:29:21when I look at my wife
00:29:23when I look at my children
00:29:24when I look at my friends
00:29:25people that I work with
00:29:26and I see in them
00:29:27what I've always seen in them
00:29:28just because time has gone by
00:29:30we grow
00:29:31but we don't change
00:29:32like you know
00:29:32the wonderful metaphor
00:29:33of a tree
00:29:34a tree grows
00:29:35but it's still the same tree
00:29:36it's still the same roots
00:29:37going back to your roots
00:29:39there's a reason we say that
00:29:40and that's how I feel now
00:29:42that I hope I've grown
00:29:43but I haven't changed
00:29:45and I will always be the way I am
00:29:46and I look at the people
00:29:47that I love
00:29:47and realize that
00:29:48we will always be the way we are
00:29:49and this album sort of
00:29:51I guess just puts that all
00:29:52into music
00:29:53let's have a listen to
00:29:54Do It For Love
00:29:55Do you believe in what you're feeling
00:30:01Do you let it get to your heart
00:30:05Cause I believe in all these feelings
00:30:12I can't help but do it for love
00:30:15When all is said and done
00:30:20I do it for love
00:30:23I do it for love
00:30:48and the only thing we could come up with
00:30:50and the only thing we could come up with was
00:30:50I guess we still do it for love
00:30:51and that song was born from that
00:30:53Yeah you are
00:30:53with the right reasons
00:30:54Yeah the right reasons
00:30:55And you sold out the Albert Hall
00:30:57I mean extremely quickly
00:30:59There's quite a lot of people in the Albert Hall
00:31:0167,000
00:31:02Yeah it's a lot of people
00:31:03but it's more that it's just the real Albert Hall
00:31:05It's like as you know it's the venue
00:31:07It's like you walk
00:31:08You go there
00:31:09We went there recently
00:31:10just to have a look at it
00:31:11And you get
00:31:12Even though I wasn't playing a show
00:31:13I just went to look at it
00:31:14You get intimidated by it
00:31:15Oh you do
00:31:16Yeah but in a wonderful way
00:31:17It's like having another member of the band
00:31:19You know it adds to the show
00:31:20We were discussing lights
00:31:22Backdrops
00:31:22And I just said
00:31:24Let the show be the role of Albert Hall
00:31:26It has its own special
00:31:27I've been very lucky enough
00:31:28To do a few performances there myself
00:31:31And presentations
00:31:32And performing bits of musical work
00:31:35That have done
00:31:36And there's something extraordinarily special
00:31:38About that space
00:31:39I think in a way
00:31:40The history that's in the bones of it
00:31:41Isn't it really
00:31:42You know what's gone on there
00:31:43And who's been there
00:31:44Who's played there
00:31:45Who's performed there
00:31:46Totally
00:31:46And it's intimidating
00:31:47But it also creates a certain pressure
00:31:49Which I like
00:31:50You know great things come from pressure
00:31:51Diamonds and etc
00:31:52And it's a bit like taking a football team
00:31:54And taking them to Wembley Stadium
00:31:56Like everyone shows up
00:31:57And it's wonderful when you play with other musicians
00:31:59On a stage like that
00:32:01And there's not that many around the world
00:32:02That you don't have to say anything to each other
00:32:04You know that everybody's going to bring their A-game
00:32:06Or going to try at least
00:32:08So I'm excited about that
00:32:09Don't bring your A-game
00:32:11You brought your guitar
00:32:11I did
00:32:12And it's not just for decoration
00:32:14No
00:32:15It's to be that guy
00:32:17It looks nice
00:32:18So I brought you that
00:32:19It looks great
00:32:19Yeah
00:32:20What are you going to play?
00:32:21This is the title track from the record
00:32:23And this is a song called
00:32:24We Will Always Be The Way We Were
00:32:33That night we met
00:32:35I can't forget
00:32:37We talked till the morning
00:32:41When the sun came up
00:32:43No, we couldn't stop
00:32:45We just kept going
00:32:48Kissing in the rain
00:32:50Never be the same
00:32:52We were in it together
00:32:56And the song that I played
00:32:58About the times that changed
00:33:00Would be yours forever
00:33:05Life will pull us apart
00:33:08But don't let it break us
00:33:11We will always be
00:33:14The way we were
00:33:19No matter where we are
00:33:22No matter where life takes us
00:33:26We will always be
00:33:29The way we were
00:33:34We will always be
00:33:37The way we were
00:33:41What a treat
00:33:43Just sitting here
00:33:44Listening to that
00:33:46Delightful
00:33:46Thank you
00:33:47I can't imagine you ever writing a song
00:33:49That didn't involve your entire heart and soul
00:33:51A lot goes into it emotionally, doesn't it?
00:33:55Unfortunately, I have a very bad imagination
00:33:57So most of the things I write about
00:33:58Are usually pretty real
00:34:00I'm not very creative
00:34:01When it comes to making stuff up
00:34:03But you've got a family now
00:34:04I mean, how musical are they?
00:34:07I mean, how exposed are they to music?
00:34:10I think they're very
00:34:10I consider myself
00:34:11I don't consider myself a musician
00:34:13I consider myself musical
00:34:15And I think my children especially
00:34:17Are very much the same
00:34:18We can't read music
00:34:19I don't know how it works
00:34:20It's total magic to me
00:34:22And it's the same with my kids
00:34:23And I have this argument with some of them
00:34:26Because I work with musicians
00:34:27And they don't agree with me on this
00:34:28But I don't really try to force it onto my kids at all
00:34:31I surround
00:34:32I fill the house with instruments
00:34:34We've got pianos, guitars, drums
00:34:35Everywhere
00:34:36And if they want to play
00:34:37They sort of play
00:34:38And I find that they do
00:34:39But I know my kids
00:34:41And I know that if I told them
00:34:42That they had to do scales
00:34:43For two hours every day
00:34:44They would hate me
00:34:45And probably hate music
00:34:46So for us
00:34:47That's how it works
00:34:49Working with heroes
00:34:50You saw a little snippet of Kylie
00:34:51There in the opening
00:34:52You worked with Kylie
00:34:52At La Fenice
00:34:53In Venice
00:34:54That glorious theatre
00:34:56Yeah, it was a pinch me moment
00:34:57I bet
00:34:58A, Fenice
00:34:59And B, Kylie
00:35:00Both in
00:35:01You know, wow
00:35:01It's still
00:35:02And I'm not just saying this
00:35:03Because you bring it up
00:35:04Probably the most
00:35:06Even watching that video
00:35:08Because that video was filmed in La Fenice
00:35:09We actually filmed it in between
00:35:11Soundcheck and the performance
00:35:12We had like two hours
00:35:13To do this music video
00:35:15And it was such an honour
00:35:17To be able to
00:35:18A, play in La Fenice
00:35:19But also sort of
00:35:19To document it with a music video
00:35:21So I really wanted to get it done there
00:35:22As did Kylie
00:35:23I mean
00:35:24Who are your heroes
00:35:25Musical heroes
00:35:26Who were they when you were younger
00:35:27And who are they now
00:35:28Bob Dylan for sure
00:35:29The first concert I ever went to
00:35:30Was Bob Dylan
00:35:31In Zurich
00:35:31At the hockey ring
00:35:32And it was half empty
00:35:33At the time
00:35:34Bob wasn't on trend
00:35:35This was the late 90s
00:35:37Maybe early noughties
00:35:38Maybe 2000, 2001
00:35:40But Paul Simon was really
00:35:42The
00:35:42Simon and Garfunkel
00:35:44Was a cassette
00:35:45I bought a cassette
00:35:46At an airport
00:35:47When I was going on a business trip
00:35:48With my dad
00:35:49Like the first time
00:35:49I'd been on a business trip
00:35:50And it was when you could get
00:35:52Those like bricks
00:35:52They were like four cassettes
00:35:53In one
00:35:54Do you remember
00:35:54It was like the best of
00:35:55And I put it on
00:35:57And I heard Kathy's song
00:35:59And I have the attention span
00:36:01Of a squirrel
00:36:02And even worse
00:36:03When I was younger
00:36:04And I remember being at the airport
00:36:05Putting my Walkman on
00:36:06And hearing this song
00:36:07And in three minutes
00:36:08I felt like I'd read a novel
00:36:10Or seen a movie
00:36:10Like there was so much detail
00:36:12And yet not that many words
00:36:14And I was just sort of
00:36:15Really attracted by that
00:36:17I was really fascinated by it
00:36:18And I still am
00:36:20And now
00:36:20The more writing you do
00:36:22You get more into writing
00:36:24You really
00:36:25Clearly that's preferable now
00:36:27To cover the versions
00:36:27To actually sing
00:36:28Your own material
00:36:29Your own tunes
00:36:30Your own lyrics
00:36:30Yeah and I think
00:36:33I went to Italy
00:36:34In the last couple of years
00:36:35To write an album in Italian
00:36:37Which was something
00:36:37I had to do
00:36:38After the passing of my dad
00:36:39To reconnect with my Italian roots
00:36:40And it was amazing
00:36:42Writing with Italian writers
00:36:43Because it's a completely
00:36:44Different culture
00:36:44The way they use the words
00:36:46The importance they give
00:36:47To the weight of a word
00:36:48Which is something
00:36:49I've never discussed
00:36:50When I'm writing by myself
00:36:51Or songwriting
00:36:52With friends of mine in English
00:36:53And that kind of detail
00:36:55To the craft
00:36:55That they have
00:36:56Because of the language
00:36:57Because of it being
00:36:58A Latin language
00:36:58One word can have
00:37:00Multiple meanings
00:37:00So to be able to use
00:37:02That wisely
00:37:03Is a real art
00:37:03Whereas in English
00:37:04Blue means blue
00:37:05Up means up
00:37:06Down means down
00:37:07It's quite monosyllabic
00:37:08Which is why it works
00:37:09Universally
00:37:09But it's less poetic
00:37:10So to speak
00:37:11So to find
00:37:12I sort of fell in love
00:37:13With the poetry
00:37:14Of songwriting again
00:37:16And I've tried to bring it
00:37:17Into this new album
00:37:18So growing up in Switzerland
00:37:20But now ensconced
00:37:22In Oxfordshire
00:37:22In the British countryside
00:37:24Are you becoming
00:37:24A country gentleman?
00:37:26I wouldn't go as far
00:37:27As gentleman
00:37:27But I'm becoming more country
00:37:29And I think it's
00:37:30Because of my upbringing
00:37:31In Switzerland
00:37:31That I have
00:37:32It feels very familiar
00:37:33And that's again
00:37:34Something I always say
00:37:35To my children
00:37:36When we're walking
00:37:36When we go for a walk
00:37:37And we're walking
00:37:38To the village
00:37:38And you can smell
00:37:39All the various
00:37:40Fire pits burning
00:37:41In each house
00:37:42And that reminds me
00:37:43Of growing up in Switzerland
00:37:44That was a very typical
00:37:45Weekend thing
00:37:45To do in Switzerland
00:37:46So I always say
00:37:47Oh this reminds me
00:37:48Of where I grew up
00:37:49And they were always like
00:37:50Yeah but you grew up
00:37:50On top of a mountain
00:37:51I'm like yeah
00:37:51But the atmosphere
00:37:52Was the same
00:37:53The nature is quite similar
00:37:54What can I say
00:37:55But grazie
00:37:56Jack Saletti
00:37:57Grazie
00:37:58Grazie
00:37:58Thank you so much
00:37:59My pleasure
00:38:00Thank you
00:38:00You'll stay for
00:38:01A light libation
00:38:02I would love to
00:38:02I think you've earned it
00:38:03I hope you're dry
00:38:04Time now to pay homage
00:38:06To your handiwork
00:38:07As we open our
00:38:08Viewers gallery once more
00:38:09And you've been a hardy bunch
00:38:11As always
00:38:12Braving the freezing weather
00:38:13To capture the wonder
00:38:14And beauty
00:38:15Of your daily constitutionals
00:38:17It's time
00:38:18For Walk on the Wild Side
00:38:23Outro Music
00:38:23As always
00:38:23As always
00:38:23As always
00:38:24As always
00:38:29Poison
00:38:29And who
00:38:49Finds
00:38:49A
00:45:02Now then.
00:45:03Yes.
00:45:03It's the time for bare root, isn't it?
00:45:05November to March, but we're peak bare root planting season and there is so much reason
00:45:11to plant bare root.
00:45:12You've got a cherry here.
00:45:13I have.
00:45:14It's a fragrant cloud.
00:45:14Amazing to think, you know, you get a tree like that.
00:45:16Yeah.
00:45:17And bare root coming to you without the soil, with no pot, straight out of the ground, dormant.
00:45:22The important thing is not to let it dry out.
00:45:24Yeah.
00:45:24So when you receive them, either get them in the ground as soon as you can, or you can
00:45:28put them in water for a bit if you've got a few days and you're like, can't quite
00:45:31do it straight away, or keeping them in a cold, dark environment.
00:45:35Or dig a hole in the garden where they're not going to go and just bury the roots
00:45:38so it keeps them moist, just not to let them dry out.
00:45:41And then we've got a couple of apples here on dwarf rootstock.
00:45:44This is an M9.
00:45:45They're so promising, aren't they, when you buy them like this?
00:45:46Yeah, they are.
00:45:47They're a real youngster.
00:45:48And I always say to folk, you know, when you're planting a tree, don't plant anything
00:45:51taller than you are.
00:45:53Because the longer and taller they are, the more time they take to establish.
00:45:57And something like this get away surprisingly quickly.
00:46:00Yeah.
00:46:00And such a good time to buy them because it's cheaper as well, isn't it?
00:46:03Yeah, you're not paying for the potting up, the nurturing and the watering,
00:46:06because they've been growing in the ground.
00:46:07They're much less labour intensive.
00:46:09But roses too.
00:46:10Indeed.
00:46:11And they look great when they come like that.
00:46:12Again, and you're paying less than you would in the pot.
00:46:15Yeah.
00:46:15We've got a trio of royal roses here.
00:46:17We've got the king's rose, which is a new one, which is a bit like the old...
00:46:21Rosamundi.
00:46:21It is striped.
00:46:21I've been growing it this summer and it's striped.
00:46:23It's lovely.
00:46:24Candy striped, pink and white.
00:46:25Yeah.
00:46:25Lovely rose.
00:46:26It's really pretty, isn't it?
00:46:27I haven't grown it yet.
00:46:28And when you're planting them, you don't need all this root because fresh stuff will grow.
00:46:32So cut it back to about, you know, four to six inches in old money.
00:46:37You have to be harsh, don't you?
00:46:37Just take all those thicker ones off.
00:46:39Don't worry about it.
00:46:39Well, no, because youngsters will come out of there.
00:46:41And I don't know about you, but when I plant them, I like to plant them slightly deeper.
00:46:45So you bury that joint there where the buds meet, again, the root stock in.
00:46:52So you keep that under?
00:46:52Slightly under the ground because it'll start rooting from there and make it much more stable.
00:46:56And then you can prune this back.
00:46:57When you're planting young...
00:46:58I'm ticking over here.
00:46:59No, it's good.
00:47:00Well, I mean you.
00:47:01I'm learning.
00:47:02I'm always learning, Alan.
00:47:03Well, you can cut them really quite hard, just above a bud.
00:47:05Above a little one.
00:47:06Outward facing for perfection, but a lot of them aren't.
00:47:09So just take them back to about that...
00:47:12Looks really neat as well, doesn't it?
00:47:13When you're planting a new one.
00:47:14Yeah.
00:47:14And bury it down there.
00:47:15I'm doing it.
00:47:16I'm changing.
00:47:16I'm changing the way I do it now.
00:47:18Well, it looks like you're worrying, but then whoosh the way they'll come.
00:47:20No, I won't, because I've got good advice, Alan.
00:47:22I'm not going to worry.
00:47:23The pressure, the pressure.
00:47:24But so a trio of royal ones.
00:47:25We've also got Elizabeth and Princess Anne as well.
00:47:28So really nice shrub roses.
00:47:30Now, when you plant, I often add mycorrhizal fungi.
00:47:33Yep.
00:47:33Which I shall...
00:47:34Shall I hold that?
00:47:36Yeah.
00:47:37Can you pour me some, please?
00:47:38Yeah.
00:47:38Please, I want some more.
00:47:39We never used to do this when we do now, because all plants have this association with
00:47:44fungi.
00:47:44Yeah.
00:47:45And this basically, I would normally put it in the planting hole.
00:47:48Yeah, that's what I do.
00:47:49And then put the rose in.
00:47:51Yeah.
00:47:51But what you can do, you can add it to this.
00:47:55Oh, the old gel.
00:47:56I'm going to give it a stir for me.
00:47:57Really?
00:47:58Yes.
00:47:58So it's a dipping gel.
00:48:00Then, dipping...
00:48:01Ah, right.
00:48:02So you dip the roots in there.
00:48:03Here we go.
00:48:03Dip the roots in there.
00:48:04Yeah.
00:48:05And it covers them.
00:48:06I'll do that so we can see.
00:48:09Then you bring them out.
00:48:10I mean, it's a bit gloopy, isn't it?
00:48:11Knock it all off and plant it with that.
00:48:12Knock it all off.
00:48:13But it ensures then, you can see all the granules and the mycorrhizal fungus stuck.
00:48:17So it kind of ensures a good take up, I guess.
00:48:20So we've just got to have a little bit of winter planting.
00:48:23Because that looks quite bare, because it is bare root.
00:48:25But we still need colour at this time of year.
00:48:27And little bays are absolutely beautiful in a window box.
00:48:30And I think window boxes at this time of year are really good value, aren't they?
00:48:35Well, they bring the garden right up close, don't they?
00:48:37They do.
00:48:38And these bays as well...
00:48:38And if you don't have a windowsill, you can always get a bracket on the wall outside.
00:48:42Indeed.
00:48:42And that's the thing, because window boxes are quite heavy, don't just sit it there and
00:48:46don't give it any support.
00:48:48But an ivy at each end.
00:48:50And then we've got these really pretty little primula with these pink, purpley edges.
00:48:55And, I mean, primroses really are the first sign of spring.
00:48:59And traditionally, you'd have your primula vulgaris, the yellows, wouldn't you?
00:49:03Oh, primrose, prime flower, first flower, isn't it?
00:49:05Yeah.
00:49:06And at the front, I've got the little...
00:49:07It's actually a china window box, quite heavy, but in blue and white.
00:49:12And the variety of viola in there is called delf blue, which I thought was quite fun.
00:49:15Because it's a bit like the delft chinaware that you get.
00:49:18Yeah, we've got room for one more.
00:49:20There you go.
00:49:20One in there.
00:49:21Well done, Camilla.
00:49:22Lovely.
00:49:22Bit of colour, bit of planting hair, bit of rose planting, bit of fruit tree planting.
00:49:26Enjoy your snowdrops.
00:49:27Thank you very much indeed.
00:49:28Welcome.
00:49:34Off to Suffolk now, and a world-renowned equine institution over 250 years old.
00:49:41Tattersall's is a British auction house specialising in the sale of thoroughbred horses, including
00:49:48foals, yearlings, broodmares, racehorses and breeding stock.
00:49:53They sell horses for race and breeding and for reselling later, known as pin hooking.
00:50:00We headed up to Newmarket to see why their prestigious foal auction always gets tails wagging.
00:50:20Tattersall's is the world's oldest bloodstock auctioneer.
00:50:24We're 259 years old.
00:50:26The sale we're holding here today is a foal sale, so breeders are bringing their foals
00:50:31to market.
00:50:32For a lot of people, that's their livelihood.
00:50:34I've got a draft of 24 foals here this week, and yeah, over four days, hope to sell them.
00:50:39This week is a long time in the planning.
00:50:41A mare is obviously in foal for nearly a year, and then these foals are eight, nine, ten months
00:50:46old when they sell, so it's a two-year project just for this sale.
00:50:49We're a commercial breeder of flat racehorses, and we breed about 80 foals a year.
00:50:56The six weeks before the sale, we start really giving a lot of preparation.
00:51:01The team will be hand-walking them, giving them a lot of exercise, feeding them up and
00:51:05really preparing them for four days of showing.
00:51:15At any auction we do, it is the culmination of multiple years of work that boils down
00:51:19to a two to three minute period where the fate of the vendor and sometimes their finances
00:51:27for the year are boiled down into that small period.
00:51:29So it's a great responsibility.
00:51:31It's a great privilege to be able to do it.
00:51:35And I remember when I was first starting out, some of the more senior auctioneers would
00:51:38say, however long you've been doing it for, if you don't have a few butterflies in your
00:51:42stomach, when you're getting ready to go onto the roster, you're not going to be doing
00:51:45your job very well because you need to realise the implications of how you act on there.
00:51:50You need to do it to the very best of your ability and wherever possible try and exceed
00:51:53people's expectations by eking out a bit or two more than they might have thought they
00:51:57would get.
00:51:58So there's a lot of trepidation, a lot of nervousness when they're bringing their group of
00:52:02animals to sale, pitching them against the rest of the crop.
00:52:05And then you're finding out how you stack up in the pecking order.
00:52:08You know, you can think you've got nice horses at home, but until you bring them up here,
00:52:12you really don't know.
00:52:13You've got to compare them to the opposition.
00:52:16So we've got about 300 foals catalogued today. I think about 270 of those are here and ready
00:52:22to go through the ring. I'll be doing between 30 and 40 of those in the various runs that
00:52:26I have as an auctioneer. So I'll be looking at how they're made, how they behave, how they
00:52:31walk, and then looking at the pedigree, the family behind them as well, trying to match
00:52:36up the physical side of things, the pedigree side of things, and then bring them together
00:52:39into a value that I think we can achieve in the ring. The bids start flying and you get
00:52:44into a really good rhythm doing it. It's one of the best buzzers you can get in the job,
00:52:48in my opinion.
00:52:50So our minimum price this week is about a thousand guineas, but if we're lucky, later
00:52:54on in the week we may have some horses that get close to or maybe even exceed seven-figure
00:52:58prices. So we still sell in guineas, and it's the old one pound and a shilling. The shilling
00:53:03used to be the auctioneer's commission, so we trade in guineas. It equals a pound and five pence.
00:53:07We take a five per cent commission. It's a high-risk investment. You've got the risk
00:53:12of the horse not developing as you hope it will do. When you're looking at the physical,
00:53:16you're looking for the shape and what it might grow into.
00:53:20It's great to try and see how people are imagining what is a very raw product right
00:53:25now, but what it's going to grow up and become. Is it going to grow up and become a
00:53:28nice yearling to sell next year, and then ultimately is it going to grow up to be a nice,
00:53:31powerful racehorse that goes and performs on the track.
00:53:34A good walking horse does tend to turn into a good trotting, good cantering, good moving,
00:53:39and obviously good galloping once they get to the racehorse also. I think action, as we call it,
00:53:43is very important.
00:53:46Going halfway through today, we've sold most of the foals which we've offered today, which is great.
00:53:51It's never always smooth sailing on a day like this when you're dealing with so many clients
00:53:55and so many foals, but it's not over until the last one sells.
00:53:58So it's fantastic seeing people have to use their imagination with these young animals,
00:54:02and then really try and visualise what those horses are going to do, and hopefully down the road at
00:54:06Newmarket Racehorse in a few years' time, go on to great things.
00:54:11Oh, thanks to everybody at Tattersall. It's an amazing place, isn't it?
00:54:15Coming up, described as a raucous relish, a sexually voracious landlady in a tale about lust,
00:54:22morality and family comes in halfway, winning rave reviews for her recent performance in
00:54:28Joe Orton's entertaining Mr Sloan. And he could find his way out of a blizzard and still find time
00:54:34to name every snowflake en route. Nature's ultimate detective, Tristan Gooley, maps out the things
00:54:41that should be on your radar this month. I'll see you with the navigator himself and more right after this.
00:55:03Welcome back to Love Your Weekend. Still ahead, it's nearly time to settle in for a brew, but not that
00:55:09kind.
00:55:09Jager Wise is here, with the pale ale that anyone can enjoy on a lazy Sunday afternoon.
00:55:15And a body discovered in the village church, an amateur sleuth, and some idyllic British countryside.
00:55:21Sounds like my kind of drama. Tamsyn Arthwaite, on bringing alive the literary work of the Reverend Richard Coles
00:55:27in the hit drama Murder Before Even song. But first, even in the depths of winter,
00:55:33the natural world is quietly full of clues, if you know how to spot them.
00:55:38Writer and natural navigator Tristan Gooley spent years uncovering the subtle signs
00:55:45that mark nature's lesser known seasons, proving there's still plenty to look out for
00:55:50when the leaves are gone and the days are short.
00:55:53He's now sharing those insights in a new book, The Hidden Seasons.
00:56:00And he's very kindly turned out today to show us how winter still has stories to tell.
00:56:05Welcome, Tristan. Lovely to have you back. Thanks, Al.
00:56:08It always reminds me what to look for when I say, well, there's not much about, is there, at the
00:56:11moment.
00:56:11And you come and say, what? Don't be ridiculous. There's so much.
00:56:14I've got the sun in my eyes. Of course, this time of year, it's really quite low, isn't it?
00:56:18Yeah, I think this is the first time in the year where we sense the day is getting longer.
00:56:22But even there, there are little surprises. So, by the beginning of February, the day is about an hour and
00:56:27ten minutes longer
00:56:28than it was at the start of January. But it's not even. That's where the surprise is.
00:56:32We find sunset is about 45 minutes later than it was at the start of January.
00:56:37But sunrise hasn't come that much earlier. So, it's a bit kind of uneven.
00:56:42And this is all to do with the tilt of the Earth's axis, isn't it?
00:56:44That's it, yeah. The tilt of the Earth's axis and the way it orbits around the sun sets that up.
00:56:50But so many different little surprises. There's a temptation to think we have to wait until, you know, spring's in
00:56:56full swing.
00:56:57But we've got a lovely example here. I think many people recognise the hazel catkins.
00:57:03The lamb's tails. Yes, beautiful, aren't they?
00:57:06And this is the male flower, or in fact, many flowers, perhaps as many as 240 flowers in the tail
00:57:13there.
00:57:13But what a lot of people don't spot is the female flower right at the end of the tail.
00:57:19That little tiny red bit sticking out. And that's where the nut comes from, of course, isn't it?
00:57:22Yes, yes. The nut comes from the females.
00:57:24Yeah. Now, they've been a bit early this year, haven't they, the catkins?
00:57:27They have been early. And one of the seasonal markers in the catkins is that we wouldn't see them as
00:57:33typically a pretty flower.
00:57:34And that's a clue that they're wind-pollinated. And wind-pollinated flowers, they tend to sneak out
00:57:41before what we would think of as the pretty flowers. So they're a real marker of this time of year.
00:57:46So we're getting past the depths of winter, but it's not yet spring.
00:57:50And the reason they do that is because they need that breeze we can feel on our faces at the
00:57:54moment.
00:57:54Yeah, they're going to get well-pollinated today, aren't they?
00:57:56They are. It's a great acre.
00:57:57We get these clouds of sulphur pollen, don't you, coming off.
00:57:59Yes, it's absolutely beautiful. But that, for me, is a really encouraging sign that we're in this interesting moment between
00:58:06winter and spring.
00:58:08Well, we've got a lovely old churchyard next door. Shall we go and have a walk around there and see
00:58:12if we can find any more clues?
00:58:13Let's do it.
00:58:14Oh, yeah. The odd shaft of sunlight. And you begin to notice, you know, we were looking at these for
00:58:21the garden earlier with Camilla.
00:58:23And here they are, you know, coming up through the grass, trying not to walk on them. Sheets of snowdrops.
00:58:29Isn't it special when they come through?
00:58:31They are so magnificent. And I think one of the reasons we love them is because they are bold and
00:58:37early.
00:58:37And if anything's early, it's a prompt for us to pause and say, how do they do it? Because it's
00:58:42like a magic trick.
00:58:43And as all, you know, gardeners will know, and of course, you'll know only too well, they've got this trick
00:58:49of storing energy from the ear below in the bulbs below the ground.
00:58:52But there's something else I want to show you above ground, which is, can you see how there's no symmetry
00:58:57here?
00:58:58Almost all of the flowers are on this side.
00:59:02Yes.
00:59:02And unlike the hazel catkins, which need the wind for pollination, any flower we think of as pretty is trying
00:59:10to attract insects.
00:59:11And for that, they need to reflect light. So this actually makes a compass.
00:59:15What they're doing is facing where most of the light is coming from and telling us that south is out
00:59:20this way.
00:59:21So if you're lost, a plant like the snowdrop is in effect a compass as it's pointing south.
00:59:26Exactly right.
00:59:27If the sun isn't out, you can still tell.
00:59:29Yeah, and that's what our ancestors would have used to help them.
00:59:32Yeah.
00:59:33And there's another one I'd like to show you over here.
00:59:36This is the plant that gardeners have an uneasy relationship with.
00:59:40Good for bird nesting, but a pain if it's growing up and among your plants brambles.
00:59:45Yes, but there's still clues and signs to be found even in, you know, plants that aren't a gardener's favourite.
00:59:51And we're not spoilt for colour yet at this time of year.
00:59:55But there is a lovely clue in the colours we can see here.
00:59:58Because all down the side here of the brambles, we've got this rich red colour.
01:00:02And on the side you are, most of the leaves are green.
01:00:06Yes.
01:00:06And any plants that have got leaves out at this time of year are sensitive to light, of course.
01:00:11And they use this red colour. It's the pigment anthocyanin.
01:00:15And we can think of it like a sort of sunscreen. It's protecting the leaves.
01:00:19And that's why they only need it on the bright south side.
01:00:22There are colours out there if we know where to look.
01:00:25And there is one more I can show you over here, if you'd like to join me.
01:00:28OK.
01:00:28Well, if I can get out of this bramble.
01:00:30You trapped there.
01:00:31It's getting its own back. It knows I'm the gardener.
01:00:33You're the countryman. You're left alone, you see.
01:00:35What have we got here?
01:00:36Well, if we peer over this hedge just here and look in the middle distance,
01:00:40can you see? There are thousands of leaves, but they're all brown.
01:00:44Yeah.
01:00:45And this is an effect with a wonderful word.
01:00:48The name is marcessence.
01:00:50And this is the habit of certain trees, beaches, oaks, hornbeams, a few others.
01:00:55They hold onto their leaves all through winter.
01:00:58And it gives us something fun to look for at this time of year.
01:01:01Do we know why they do it?
01:01:02I love it when the scientists aren't 100% sure,
01:01:05because there's a bit of mystery there.
01:01:07And two of the leading theories.
01:01:08One is it deters browsing animals like deer from munching the leaves,
01:01:12which of course the trees don't want.
01:01:14And that's perhaps why we only see it low down.
01:01:16The other theory, really lovely, is that they're providing their own fertiliser.
01:01:21When we get to spring and they're going to do all that wonderful growing,
01:01:24they sprinkle those leaves on the ground ready for spring.
01:01:27I've brought my own leaf mould with me. Wonderful, isn't it?
01:01:30It just goes to show, doesn't it, with a guide like you,
01:01:33who can just open our eyes to what we thought was a fairly barren landscape at this time of year,
01:01:37you suddenly start to see a lot of interest, a lot of things.
01:01:40Always a pleasure having you, Tristan. Thanks very much. Good luck with the book.
01:01:44Time now for an energetic little fella,
01:01:46known for its striking orange-red fur and very bushy tail.
01:01:50We haven't got any of them here, but there are loads on the Isle of Wight.
01:01:53Here's Leslie Joseph waxing lyrical about the red squirrel.
01:01:58Thank you, Alan. And a very delicious and delightful good morning to you all.
01:02:04Well, we did it. We got through January.
01:02:09Oh, spring is just around the corner.
01:02:13But before we get too excited, let's take another adventure down the garden path,
01:02:19where this week we meet the red squirrel.
01:02:23Red squirrels are among our best-loved woodland animals.
01:02:27Native to these shores, the red squirrel has seen a decline due to squirrel pox.
01:02:33So if you get an opportunity to see one in motion, do savour this sight.
01:02:39Now predominantly based in Scotland,
01:02:42the red squirrel also has smaller populations in northern England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
01:02:48They love woodlands oh so much, especially pine forests,
01:02:53where they feast on their favourite culinary delights,
01:02:56which include nuts, pine cones and berries.
01:03:00In fact, being the crafty innovators that they are,
01:03:04red squirrels often bury food to eat later.
01:03:07Well, I'm the same whenever I go to a carvery.
01:03:10Oh, how I adore a Yorkshire pudding.
01:03:13They also have the most adaptable bodies to reflect the seasons.
01:03:16In the colder months, the red squirrels' fur becomes thicker to keep warm during the winter.
01:03:22Oh, how very Zsa Zsa Gabor, darling.
01:03:26They also have the most extraordinary tail,
01:03:29which they use for balance, warmth and communication.
01:03:34In European folklore, red squirrels were believed to carry messages between the gods.
01:03:42Assuming they weren't burrowing hazelnuts, of course.
01:03:45So mighty and truly magnificent.
01:03:50All hail the red squirrel.
01:03:54Over to you, Alan.
01:03:58Oh, thank you, Leslie.
01:04:00Did you know red squirrels are surprisingly acrobatic swimmers?
01:04:03They're also known for their speedy treetop life and unique ability to descend trees head first,
01:04:10due to double-jointed ankles.
01:04:13I think I've got one of those today.
01:04:15Coming up, Béa Sommelier, Jager Wise, takes us on a pub crawl without leaving the barn.
01:04:20The idea of everything.
01:04:21Plus, star of the stage and screen, Tamsin Althwaite, on her recent theatrical forays,
01:04:27bringing the words of Mike Lee and Joe Orton to life.
01:04:31From a sexually frustrated landlady and entertaining Mr Sloan,
01:04:35to the hostess of a soiree from hell in Abigail's party.
01:04:39Cheesy pineapple, anyone?
01:04:41I'll see you with Tamsin for some theatrical insights and lore, right after this.
01:04:59Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.
01:05:01Still ahead, Jager Wise calls time on the show with a selection of winter pale ales,
01:05:06perfect for a lazy Sunday afternoon.
01:05:09But first, as a sister of the cloth, she should have known better
01:05:12and to get involved with ne'er-do-wells like Steve Owen, Dan Sullivan, Phil Mitchell
01:05:18and in what can only be attributed to a moment of temporary insanity, Ian Beale.
01:05:23For what's possibly the shortest marriage ever, even by Albert Square standards.
01:05:29Prepare for the doof-doof as we step back in time to New Year's Eve, December 1999.
01:05:42Mell, I'm begging you. Don't leave me like this, please. I need you, Mell. Thank you.
01:05:51Well, guess what, Ian? I don't love you. And I never have done.
01:05:56One, two, three, two, one!
01:06:26To walk out like that, though, ditch your tiara. How satisfying was that?
01:06:31It was quite satisfying.
01:06:33Because I'd been married for a whole four hours.
01:06:37I think it was the shortest marriage, might be the shortest marriage in EastEnders history.
01:06:41I think it would take something to beat four hours, wouldn't it, really?
01:06:45Yeah. All I know is, at the time, when it went out, live on the New Year's Eve,
01:06:51there was a huge screen in Trafalgar Square with hundreds of people watching it.
01:06:58And I was away. I took myself away somewhere far away where I was out of the noise of it.
01:07:03And somebody called me and said,
01:07:04I'm in Trafalgar Square and we're waiting to hear you say I do and you can hear a pin drop.
01:07:11I was like, what on earth is going on?
01:07:13So that was early days for me in EastEnders.
01:07:16So, yeah, it was quite crazy.
01:07:19It was in the days when millions of people would watch every episode.
01:07:22He's not had a lot of luck, has he, really? What a memorable scene.
01:07:27A heck of a learning curve. You were quite young when you started in that, really.
01:07:30I mean, an awful lot to learn from some of the best, you know,
01:07:33the Barbara Windsor's and the June Brown's, you know, astonishing cast, really.
01:07:37Absolutely. I mean, I was 28 in 1998 when I went in.
01:07:42And I kind of learnt my trade, as I'm still learning,
01:07:46but learnt my, like, all of those craft skills when you're doing multicam,
01:07:54which is something that you don't learn in a drama school or college or...
01:07:57So learning all that in front of, at the time, millions of people.
01:08:02I feel quite proud of the fact that I came out with my sanity
01:08:06and knowing exactly how to manoeuvre and navigate, you know,
01:08:12a character on a set where it's very fast
01:08:14and the amount of learning you have to do.
01:08:17So, yeah, I do. I had a brilliant time doing it.
01:08:19It taught me so much.
01:08:21Do you know how many scenes did you do in your last day in EastEnders?
01:08:24So, the weird thing, Alan, is some of it was just me throwing up in a jail cell
01:08:30or some of it was just one shot.
01:08:32But there were 31 scenes on my final day as Mel in 2002.
01:08:38And they threw me a party to say goodbye.
01:08:42And I was an hour late for my own party
01:08:44because we had to get it all in because I was leaving.
01:08:47And, yeah, that's unheard of, I think.
01:08:49I've never done that before or since.
01:08:51We saw at the very top of the show,
01:08:52we'll talk about musicals in a minute too,
01:08:54we saw him doing Sweet Charity.
01:08:55But there's been a lot of stage work quite, quite different to that.
01:08:58The latest thing that you've just finished
01:08:59is this part in entertaining Mr. Sloan.
01:09:02Just set her up for a bit before we see her.
01:09:05Joe Orson play, very, as they used to say at the time, outspoken.
01:09:09Not a comfortable play at all.
01:09:12And your character, a bit of a one.
01:09:16Yeah, damaged, outrageous, lonely, desperate.
01:09:20And she pursues a young man many, many years younger than her.
01:09:26So Orton is outrageous, as you know, and quite shocking at times.
01:09:33And I don't think those characters were particularly lovable.
01:09:37Mm.
01:09:38And I suppose allowing yourself to play someone that's completely unlikable.
01:09:43Irredeemable, really.
01:09:44The reaction from an audience there,
01:09:46do you get the impression sometimes that they let you know
01:09:49when you're shocking them, in a way?
01:09:51Yeah, because there was a section where I was wearing a see-through negligee
01:09:55and there was nothing on underneath at all.
01:09:58And at the beginning, the wig department, I had a wig on,
01:10:01they made me a Merkin.
01:10:02Yes.
01:10:03And...
01:10:04It's a lower wig, ladies and gentlemen.
01:10:05Yes.
01:10:06A lower, lower wig.
01:10:09And Imelda Staunton was the last person to play it in the West End.
01:10:12So the designer, Peter, had also designed that production.
01:10:16So I asked him and I said, you know,
01:10:19is a Merkin what Imelda did?
01:10:21And they said, no, no, Imelda just went completely bare.
01:10:25Now, the lighting and the negligee does cover quite a bit.
01:10:31But when I saw the Merkin, I thought, no, that doesn't feel very true to...
01:10:36It doesn't feel very authentic.
01:10:37They'd made a Swedish one that was quite blonde.
01:10:40And my mum's Italian, as you know.
01:10:42So I said, do you know what?
01:10:43I'm just going to be brave at my age.
01:10:45And I suppose what happened was when she starts to undress to seduce the younger man, Mr. Sloan,
01:10:57I sometimes would hear from different areas because you could see everything in one area of the theatre and nothing
01:11:04in others.
01:11:06So some people would say, I didn't see anything.
01:11:08And some people would say, I saw everything.
01:11:11And I felt quite brave after a while because I was forgetting that I was doing it.
01:11:16But you would often hear from one area of the theatre, when I took off my dress, you would hear...
01:11:24And that told me that it was still shocking some people.
01:11:27Yeah.
01:11:28Which is what was the whole point.
01:11:30Which is the aim.
01:11:30Yeah.
01:11:31Here you are, entertaining Mr. Sloan.
01:11:35I need understanding.
01:11:39You do, don't you?
01:11:43Well, well, well.
01:11:45A little bodybuilder, are ya?
01:11:49This young man is quite respectable.
01:11:52I'm going to tell you something.
01:11:54Prepare to raise your eyebrows.
01:11:57Can I have a promise?
01:11:58You'll keep your mouth shut.
01:12:00We have met before.
01:12:01I knew we had.
01:12:03I'm not wicked.
01:12:04I think you're wicked.
01:12:06You did it in the round at The Young Thing.
01:12:10For a young actor like that coming in first thing.
01:12:12It's not proscenium arch, the audience is there.
01:12:15Yeah.
01:12:15For any actor, even experienced, that's a skill in itself, isn't it?
01:12:20Working with the audience all the way around you.
01:12:21Oh, absolutely.
01:12:23I mean, the, not having a back wall means you've got nowhere to hide.
01:12:30And, text like Orton's, I mean, it's extremely funny and clipped.
01:12:35Yeah.
01:12:35But then it's also very dark.
01:12:37So, getting the gags across when they were funny.
01:12:41So, if you're facing here, they also have to go to the people at the back behind you.
01:12:45Yeah.
01:12:45So, it is a skill.
01:12:47And it would be different every night.
01:12:48And some people would laugh in different places.
01:12:50Every night there was a completely different show on stage.
01:12:53And it was, you could never relax for a moment.
01:12:57I mean, you can't in theatre anyway.
01:12:58But there wasn't a moment where you could take your foot off the gas and step back on the charge.
01:13:04Because it was all so charged.
01:13:06Now, we know Alison Steadman from Abigail's Party, but you did a revival.
01:13:10We did.
01:13:11Of the most toe-curling and excruciating play to watch.
01:13:15That was it.
01:13:16What's it like to be in it?
01:13:17And to do.
01:13:17Yes, absolutely.
01:13:18I mean, horrific, horrible characters.
01:13:21We probably aired on the very dark side in our production.
01:13:26Yeah.
01:13:27It was funny.
01:13:28Very funny.
01:13:29But it was also toe-curlingly awful.
01:13:34Yeah.
01:13:34And Kevin Bishop was in it with me as well, who was extremely funny.
01:13:38And Nadia Fall directed it, who directed Entertaining Mr Sloan as well.
01:13:43And there might be another life for it at some point.
01:13:47Touch wood.
01:13:47Okay, so Abigail will be entertaining again.
01:13:50Yes.
01:13:51And Alison Steadman, who played it originally, I saw her not that long ago.
01:13:55And I've just been told recently that she also did Entertaining Mr Sloan.
01:13:59So maybe I'm just following in her footsteps.
01:14:01Just check her list and follow, yeah.
01:14:03Which I'd be very happy about having her career.
01:14:05Of course, we see you on telly as well.
01:14:07And the most recent thing is Murder Before Even song.
01:14:10Here you are.
01:14:10Richard Coles playing, again, a bit of a piece of work, I think, really.
01:14:16Anyway, I shall be presenting it at the next PCC for a vote because, unlike your plans, this is already
01:14:23funded.
01:14:25You've got the money?
01:14:26A private donation.
01:14:28I see.
01:14:29And who's it from?
01:14:30The donor wishes to remain anonymous.
01:14:33To the rest of the world, perhaps.
01:14:34But not to me.
01:14:36As Rector and incumbent.
01:14:38They were most insistent.
01:14:40Unfortunately, the Rector has a fiduciary responsibility.
01:14:44He has to be able to account for all sources of funding.
01:14:47And unless he can, no such proposal can go before the PCC for approval.
01:14:52I guess I'm afraid that's quite true.
01:14:54And you are?
01:14:56Oh, I'm sorry, Stella.
01:14:57This is my mother, Audrey.
01:15:02Who appears to be an expert on PCC protocol.
01:15:05It's amazing what you pick up.
01:15:11Watch that one, Daniel.
01:15:12I have a feeling she hates losing.
01:15:15But then, so do I.
01:15:17Well, another combination.
01:15:19You and Amanda Redman.
01:15:21You went on to take over from Amanda in New Tricks.
01:15:24Amanda came and talked about that role and said,
01:15:26should I put that wig on?
01:15:27Should I suddenly think I was my mother or something?
01:15:30How about you suddenly age with a wig like that?
01:15:33Yeah, absolutely.
01:15:33It was lovely working with her because I'd never,
01:15:35apart from working with her as a guest on New Tricks many years before,
01:15:40before I came in to take over from her,
01:15:41I'd never actually been in a scene with her.
01:15:43So it was great.
01:15:44That was lovely.
01:15:45We talked earlier, at the top of the show,
01:15:47about Sweet Charity and about musicals there.
01:15:49And in a way, it was sort of song and dance.
01:15:51Sylvia Young, wasn't she, at the beginning?
01:15:53I did.
01:15:54I went part-time, yeah.
01:15:55Not full-time, but part-time.
01:15:57And that kind of gave me the bug, I think.
01:15:59And then I went to London Studio Centre for three years.
01:16:02So I trained in musical theatre.
01:16:04I changed onto the drama course halfway through.
01:16:08And I did eight years of musical theatre before EastEnders came about.
01:16:12And two of those years was working with Alan Akebourne up in Scarborough.
01:16:16And that was all set in the round because it was the Stephen Joseph Theatre in the round.
01:16:18Yes.
01:16:18So I feel like my first professional play was actually in the round,
01:16:23which I suppose made doing the round much later on much less frightening.
01:16:28Yeah, you knew about it.
01:16:30Yeah.
01:16:30You knew the feel of it.
01:16:31And to start with Akebourne, cut your teeth.
01:16:32It's not bad, is it?
01:16:33I mean, he's about to do his 92nd play?
01:16:3692nd play at Scarborough.
01:16:38Yeah.
01:16:39Yeah.
01:16:39And the theatre was 70 years old this year.
01:16:42Astonishing man.
01:16:43I love the way he's carved his own, ploughed his own furrow.
01:16:46You know, to write that many plays.
01:16:48So many successful plays as well.
01:16:50It's the most successful British playwright.
01:16:51Yeah.
01:16:51I don't think anyone else has written 92 plays.
01:16:54Um, wellness retreats.
01:16:56Yes.
01:16:57So now you're into the, are you organising wellness retreats?
01:16:59Yeah, so I have a CIC, it's a non-profit, it's called We Free Women.
01:17:03And we are just about to do our ninth retreat in three years.
01:17:07We have at least, we have eight to ten, sometimes twelve women each time.
01:17:12And it's basically, our motto is, you can't pour from an empty cup.
01:17:16We basically give women back their power.
01:17:19We choose the women.
01:17:20And we sometimes, we somehow help to, for them to realise their power again.
01:17:26It's life affirming for me.
01:17:27I feel like it's, it's a, it's kind of a mission that I'm not going to let go of.
01:17:33You know, I see there's more to Tamsin than meets the eye.
01:17:37Lovely to talk to you.
01:17:38As ever.
01:17:39Now, time to relax and unwind with stunning footage.
01:17:42Here's our little bit of calm.
01:17:44Equally impressive music too.
01:17:46It's time for today's Ode to Joy.
01:17:48You know, I'm dying saying, Okay.
01:19:48A bit of Mozart now as well.
01:19:49On the way, last orders at the Manor Farm Bar.
01:19:52Landlady and award-winning brewer, Jager Wise,
01:19:55calls time on the show with a selection of the pale ales
01:19:58to freshen our palates.
01:19:59I'll see you with Jager, Tamsin and Jack right after this.
01:20:18Best of British time now.
01:20:20There's nothing quite like a ramble in the winter, followed by a well-deserved drink at the pub, fire roaring.
01:20:27In recent years, the UK has seen a craft beer boom with breweries right across the land.
01:20:32Changing our perception of the classic pint, mass-produced lagers have given way in the main to a celebration of
01:20:39small, independently-brewed ales.
01:20:42If the choice is overwhelming, fear not.
01:20:45Drinks expert Jager Wise is here to impart some much-needed wisdom and share her top pale ales from across
01:20:52our glorious land.
01:20:54Welcome, Jager.
01:20:56It's amazing, some sparkling and see-through and others a little bit more cloudy.
01:21:01Yes, I've got quite the array of pale ales for you.
01:21:03So we're going to start in East London.
01:21:06This brewery is called Five Points, they're from Hackney, and this is a golden ale.
01:21:11And one of the main things you can notice about a golden ale is that lovely golden colour.
01:21:15So if you take a, have a swirl.
01:21:17Do you not?
01:21:18I'm just going to say, you say it always gets me.
01:21:20You look at it, now I find it's like it'd come out.
01:21:22Yeah, I know.
01:21:23So a swirl.
01:21:24It's a way to impress your friends, if you can learn how to swirl one-handed.
01:21:29Then what I want you to do is take a short, sharp sniff and give it a good waft.
01:21:35Can you smell some ready notes, a hint of citrus in there, but it's quite light.
01:21:40If you stick your hand over it, and then I want you to stick your nose in it and smell
01:21:43it like you've never smelled anything before,
01:21:45take a long, deep, drawn-out sniff.
01:21:48And it should smell quite different.
01:21:50This is like wine tasting, I've never done this before.
01:21:53Yes, yes, yes, well this is beer tasting, welcome.
01:21:55Yeah, fair enough.
01:21:55So this is 3.4%.
01:21:57It's made with Cascade and Ernest UK grown, so a beer doesn't really get much more British than this particular
01:22:03beer.
01:22:04So if you have a taste.
01:22:05It is delicious.
01:22:06A golden ale, it's supposed to be quite an easy, balanced drink.
01:22:10It shouldn't spike anywhere in particular, you should be able to drink a pint of it very happily.
01:22:16That was a pork pie.
01:22:18Yeah.
01:22:19I'd share anything with a pork pie to be honest with that.
01:22:21Smooth, isn't it?
01:22:22Yeah.
01:22:23It's lovely, isn't it?
01:22:24Some of the ales can be very bitter, this is actually very smooth, I like that.
01:22:28Well, it's a very traditional style of brewing, it's a very traditional style of beer, and Five Points in East
01:22:34London, that's what they do especially well, is making British classics, but doing it at a really high standard.
01:22:39It's got a great character though, hasn't it? It's not insipid, it's not, you know, weak and watery, is it?
01:22:45Are you a beer drinker, Tamsin?
01:22:46Well, you see, this is probably sacrilege, but what I'd like to do is put a little bit of lime
01:22:51at the top of that, or just pour some lemonade in and make it a shandy.
01:22:56Why not, Tamsin? Why not? Why not?
01:22:59But is that, like, that's bad, isn't it, for a pale ale? Because basically I do drink beer, but I
01:23:04like to have a tiny, like, a lager top.
01:23:07I've worked in a lot of pubs over the years, and a lot of people enjoy their beer that way,
01:23:12and who am I to argue, if that's the way you want to drink your beer, fantastic.
01:23:16I'm just happy you're drinking beer in the first place, so if you do like lemon and lime, you might
01:23:20like some of our other beers, because some of the hops involved do give those kind of flavours.
01:23:25But we give that one of the thumbs up, don't we? I mean, that is a delicious ale.
01:23:28Oh, wonderful. So, the next one is from Edinburgh, this is Campervan Brewery, this is an alcohol-free pale ale.
01:23:34It's 0.5%, it's made with talus and Idaho 7 harps. Idaho 7 is known for being quite tinned pineapple
01:23:42-like, it's one of my favourite harps.
01:23:43Oh, yes. So, have you ever tasted that one?
01:23:44I see what you mean about tinned pineapple.
01:23:47Yeah, absolutely. And can you kind of taste that kind of limey flavour coming through there?
01:23:52That tastes of lime to me.
01:23:53Yeah, it's very beautiful.
01:23:55And a lot of breweries across the country are able to produce alcohol-free beers now, to such a high
01:24:01standard.
01:24:02This is alcohol-free.
01:24:03It's alcohol-free, 0.5%.
01:24:05Oh, you wouldn't know.
01:24:06Never.
01:24:06You really wouldn't know.
01:24:07Definitely not.
01:24:07Do you remember the old days when they first came out and they tasted like licorice?
01:24:10Yeah.
01:24:10They were horrible.
01:24:11Yeah.
01:24:11This is amazing.
01:24:12This is amazing.
01:24:13The branding is a bit...
01:24:14I would actually prefer this in the summer, but there's a guy skiing on the brand.
01:24:17Yeah.
01:24:17I feel like this is more of a sort of summer.
01:24:19Change it all year round.
01:24:20All year round.
01:24:20All year round.
01:24:22Okay, so next we are going to be going to Manchester.
01:24:26The brewery here is called Tann Brewing Company, and this is a New Zealand pale ale, which is a style
01:24:33mainly based upon the type of hops used.
01:24:36So, New Zealand is known for having hops that are quite coconutty, quite tropical.
01:24:42They can be a little bit musky as well.
01:24:44So, if you give this a swirl and you give this one a taste, you might be able to taste
01:24:48almost some white wine characteristics.
01:24:50It uses a hop called Nelson Sovin, which is what it's famous for.
01:24:54Another hop called Mochueka is also in this as well.
01:24:57But New Zealand has a really thriving hop industry.
01:25:01Are they different than, talking botany now, are they different varieties of hop that they're growing in New Zealand?
01:25:06Or is it just the climate which is making the difference to the flavour?
01:25:10So, in terms of hops, we have got lots of types of hops we work with, lots of different names.
01:25:16They all have different oil levels, et cetera, et cetera, but it is still the same hop plant.
01:25:21Same species, but different varieties.
01:25:24Yeah.
01:25:24So, what do we think of this beer?
01:25:25I can't often bring gardening into this beer.
01:25:29Watch me.
01:25:30Growing your own hops.
01:25:31Growing your own hops.
01:25:32Well, there they are along the front there.
01:25:34What do we think of this one?
01:25:35I really like this.
01:25:36I like it.
01:25:37Do you know, if I had to compare that with the previous one, I wouldn't be able to tell which
01:25:42one had the alcohol and which didn't out of these two.
01:25:44And I like both of them.
01:25:45The New Zealand one is 4%.
01:25:48Is that a lot?
01:25:49It's no.
01:25:50No.
01:25:51We're talking parallels here, so they do tend to be quite medium in ABV.
01:25:56So, we're talking 5% really and below.
01:25:58Yeah, and your normal lager is usually about 4.5 or something.
01:26:00Okay.
01:26:00Isn't it really?
01:26:01Well, I love both of these two.
01:26:03Yeah, same here.
01:26:03Oh, fantastic.
01:26:04There's a fruity thing with both of them.
01:26:05There is, there is.
01:26:06One's got alcohol and one hasn't.
01:26:08So, lastly, we're going to be going over to Northern Ireland.
01:26:11This is from La Carta Brewery from Portrush.
01:26:14It's an American pale ale.
01:26:16It's 4.6%.
01:26:18That's got a strong smell when you go in.
01:26:22I've not got as big, there's not as much nose on this as on the others, actually, is there?
01:26:25No.
01:26:26I feel like that smells stronger than all of them.
01:26:27Do you?
01:26:28Even taste-wise, that's very...
01:26:29It's quite intense.
01:26:30Taste-wise, it's strong.
01:26:31Yeah, it's what the Americans do.
01:26:33They do really strong, punchy, big flavours that are very...
01:26:37It's hard to disguise.
01:26:39It's very loud.
01:26:41A loud beer.
01:26:42Do you know what it tastes like to me?
01:26:44It tastes like the smell of a cigar.
01:26:47Interesting, interesting.
01:26:48And you can kind of see with the colour on here, there is a little bit of an amber-ish
01:26:53colour,
01:26:53which does help with that body and some of those malty notes you may be picking up there, Tamsin.
01:26:59So, this brewery is community-owned in Northern Ireland, so they're quite a special brewery
01:27:05and the hop in here is a hop called Citra.
01:27:07Jackie, you'll be a drinker.
01:27:09I am a beer drinker.
01:27:10I'm not really a pear...
01:27:10I didn't grow up drinking pearles, so that's why I think the one I'm leaning to the most
01:27:14is 5.1 Gold, this one.
01:27:15It's the most sort of lager-esque.
01:27:17But no, but I have to say, since living in the countryside, like you said before,
01:27:21pork pies on a cold, grey day, after a long walk...
01:27:25So sophisticated.
01:27:26No, they do go down well.
01:27:27It does work.
01:27:28I agree with you.
01:27:29And pearles are some of the most popular beers across the country.
01:27:32People love them.
01:27:34People love engaging with them.
01:27:35And they come in such a wide variety of flavours, of colours.
01:27:39You can use hops all around the world or you can use hops from the UK.
01:27:42So they really are quite a special category.
01:27:45Well, you've given us four really special ones yesterday.
01:27:47I think we'll give thumbs up to all four of those, don't we?
01:27:49Definitely.
01:27:50Are they kind of more sophisticated than your average beer now?
01:27:54I'm going to say all beer is sophisticated now, Tamsin.
01:27:57Because you're a beer head.
01:27:59Because I'm a beer head.
01:28:00I'm all about the kind of glass where you drink a beer in.
01:28:03You can make any beer feel sophisticated.
01:28:05I think.
01:28:05These are fizzier than your pint of pulled bitter.
01:28:08Yes.
01:28:08That's the thing about them, isn't it?
01:28:09And a bit colder.
01:28:10And colder.
01:28:12Yeah.
01:28:12Lovely.
01:28:12No warm beer here.
01:28:14Thank you very much.
01:28:15That's it for today.
01:28:17Thanks to all my guests.
01:28:18To Tamsin, Jack and, of course, to Jager.
01:28:21We are everything.
01:28:22Joining me next week, star of Stage and Scream, Dame Sian Phillips.
01:28:26Star of Stage and Scream, Jason Donovan.
01:28:29And star of Stage and Scream, Philip Glenister.
01:28:32It's a starry line-up.
01:28:33But I'll leave you now with these words from P.G.
01:28:35Woodhouse, one of my favourite authors.
01:28:38Intoxicated, the word did not express it by a mile.
01:28:42He was oiled, boiled, fried, plastered, whiffled, sozzled and blotto.
01:28:50Well, I wouldn't go quite that far, but give us half an hour and we might be.
01:28:53Cheers, all.
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