00:01The Minister for the European Union of the Catalan government, Jaume Duc, has told Euronews that when it comes to
00:08taking a stance against criticism from Washington, Spain is more resolute in its position than the European Union.
00:15Duc, who acts as the link between Brussels and Barcelona, said Madrid has been, quote, smart in analysing the situation
00:22concerning President Donald Trump, including on the conflict in the Middle East.
00:27We were also among the first in criticizing this conflict or the way this conflict has been opened or produced
00:36in Iran and then how in the following weeks this position was adopted also by a majority of member states
00:47of the European Union.
00:48This means that we were just, let's say, more convinced about our own positions.
00:57You think the EU is not convinced of its positions?
00:59I think that the EU has evolved a lot in the last months.
01:03I think that there was a turning point which was all the threats against Greenland.
01:08I think that this opened wide the eyes of many governments in this continent.
01:13And since then, the positions have changed.
01:16Shifting the conversation of politics to a more local level, Duc argued that a closer relationship is needed between regional
01:23governments and Brussels.
01:25Any of the decisions that are taken in Brussels by the Commission, the Council of the European Parliament at the
01:30end of the day have to be applied by the regional governments, not by the national ones.
01:36And competencies on agriculture, on fisheries, on trade, on housing, on many, many, many other topics are in the hands
01:44of the Catalan government,
01:45which means that in reality what you need is a very good relationship between those who are deciding here in
01:50Brussels
01:50and those who are implementing the rules, the European laws, in the territory, in this case in Catalonia.
01:57Duc said European and Catalan priorities are more aligned than most would think,
02:02with shared interests such as strategic autonomy, defence and energy.
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