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00:00right joe was saying you know find the right personnel that brings it you know that's going
00:04to bring the energy we definitely tried to play a lot of guys tonight because i knew we were coming
00:08off a tough you know tough series and keon gave us some good minutes in the first half you know
00:13we threw tb in there i wanted to conserve our little and our energy and then try to find some
00:17new energy you know we tried a bunch of things and and i think think it helped us so but
00:22usually
00:22you're you search for that with with personnel trying to find the right the right combos
00:26kenny atkinson on the rotations yesterday uh one of my big beefs yesterday aside from the obvious
00:32of james harden was the 35 minutes for donovan mitchell and then just looking at how he felt
00:40very comfortable kenny did sitting jared allen who only ended up with 18 points we all know
00:46the well-documented foul trouble early on but there was no reason to me and i'm joined by
00:51matt dairy who's an enemy territory in detroit for uh him to be glued to the bench the second
00:57half the way he was so jared allen finishes with just two points three rebounds in a game that was
01:03close in the final five minutes i i don't want to blame coaching and i i made the mistake just
01:10now
01:10anthony of going on our youtube page and looking at some of the comments just can you give me a
01:16synopsis fire kenny kenny's not the guy i mean we want to go through this again of course all those
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01:28gotta get that read in um but like what do you want him to do his his his 36 million
01:36dollar point
01:37guard can't dribbles the ball off his leg i mean you know they throw up a shot they get the
01:43rebound
01:44they throw up another shot they get another offensive rebound if you can't rebound the ball
01:48and and you can't dribble the ball this is gonna be a four game sweep well i did i will
01:53say and i
01:53know again alan was in foul trouble but i don't think you should have james harden at 37 very different
02:01version of james harden um although unfortunately last night looked like a very similar game seven
02:07version of james harden only it was in game one i don't think he should be out there in lineups
02:12that do not feature either evan mobley or jared allen and the reason is twofold offensively i mean
02:20they had bryant coming up and setting screens for him and how many pick and rolls have those guys even
02:24run together um ever yeah so i i think that's an issue when you're going up against the blitzes
02:31that they saw yesterday in detroit and detroit threw a few different looks at him um and then they were
02:36very comfortable at times just with kate cunningham on him at the top but the second part of that is
02:43defensively because while i think james has been holding his own on defense i know there was the
02:48one tobias harris possession down the stretch that you know dig man uh will not be on the james harden
02:55highlight reel he almost fell down and the crowd was going nuts and then they sealed the game i think
02:59they extended the lead to nine on that possession and that was it it was curtains but overall i thought
03:04james held his own defensively but you gotta have one of those guys behind him and donovan at all
03:10times and so to have that lineup i think in the second quarter that made no sense to me and
03:17just
03:17overall like i said i wonder remember it was game five that they stuck with schroeder uh in the hot
03:23hand
03:24and one of the storylines after the game was that donovan told kenny like yeah stay with him stay with
03:31them which is you don't hear that a lot from superstars and no i and some of that is good
03:35some of that you're like come on donovan you kind of want to be out there i didn't hear anything
03:40about
03:40donovan saying yeah i'm good keep those guys out because there were crucial fourth quarter minutes
03:46where i was like man i'd like to see donovan back out there no i agree they they there were
03:53there
03:53were stretches in the fourth you're right you're like all right put the starters back in you didn't do
03:57that against toronto in that game five where you're right schroeder and that group were so good
04:01they they ended up taking them home which is normally one game in a seven game series and this
04:07i still think this is going to be a long series with detroit i do but your your big horses
04:12have
04:12got to be the ones to carry you i i think in listening and owen's played a bunch of these
04:16bites
04:17already these sound clips from from kenny atkinson it's almost like they knew uh-oh we had to go seven
04:23games in the first round let's see if we can you know show up in the first game and do
04:28okay and
04:29steal one maybe that i'm not saying they're eyeing game two is the one to get but they came out
04:34so
04:35flat last night we haven't even talked about you give up 37 first quarter points anthony yeah come
04:40on now well and they you're not gonna win you're not gonna beat anybody playing defense like that i
04:44mean that was a joke and one of the criticisms in that opening round against toronto was when are you
04:49guys gonna start acting like it's the playoffs like they had the two nothing lead and then they fell
04:53into a comfort zone uh they probably just assumed they would steal one of the games in toronto and
04:58they should have they were up eight in game four with uh with about six minutes left and they coughed
05:04up the lead but at some point it's the sense of urgency now fans want that sense of urgency to
05:10be
05:10there for 48 minutes and that's just not realistic i know and and every night dude like let's be honest
05:16that's every you just said that that's every team in the east has and i used this term earlier
05:21played with their food philadelphia mailed in game one yeah all right the the magic mailed in game
05:28five in the first round against detroit you're i'm not saying that boston haves boston sitting
05:34home right now boston mailed in a couple in that philly series i mean i don't see that in the
05:39west and
05:39we can talk about that later uh i i don't i think those games are all pretty competitive and i
05:43think
05:44those teams are a higher level unfortunately but the calves i mean they didn't mail last night in but
05:49that first quarter effort defensively and the turn excuse me in the turnovers were brutal you're
05:54not gonna win that way all right uh one of these storylines emerging at least when it came to the
05:58fans yesterday and then it was addressed in the postgame audio with donovan mitchell the free throw
06:04disparity in total 31 matt 31 to 16 oh and i love this guy i love this guy you were
06:13the one stirring it
06:14up last night on twitter with the free throws you the fans you're one of them 31 you're the
06:19ring leader of this anthony i am the ring leader of this free throw this is how he gets this
06:25so here just laying out facts so the rarely seen for foul disparity that leads to let me check my
06:34math
06:34was it 15 fit oh i'm sorry it was 19 more free throws uh yesterday i rarely seen it felt
06:42like the
06:43calves are not allowed to contest any shots inside either way here's donovan mitchell in the postgame
06:48uh addressing the fact he only had two free throws i want to separate this from the game the free
06:54throw
06:54disparity is not why we lost tonight i want to make sure i say that but i don't know i'm
06:58trying to get
06:58downhill and a friend of mine got fined for talking about flop so i'm not gonna try to double down
07:03but
07:04i mean like i feel like that's what i got to do at this point you know what i mean
07:07like i'm trying to
07:08get downhill trying to get to the bucket and sometimes people are in my way and i'm trying to get
07:11fight
07:11through contact and i'm not getting these calls usually i had what like 13 in the last series
07:15like 16 i mean i'm just not getting the calls i don't know why i don't flop maybe that's why
07:20and this isn't just a tonight thing this has been the entire series and it's it's frustrating a little
07:26bit but because i'm such a dynamic driver right like i can't control that so if i'm not gonna call
07:30for me i gotta find a way to finish through that but you know me i'm never one to sit
07:33here and
07:33complain and that's not why we lost the game tonight or whatever but at some point in time i feel
07:38like
07:39me getting to the basket's got to relate to something you know i'm saying so we'll see
07:43uh matt dairy you're not buying donovan mitchell uh that's a complaint let's be honest um of course
07:49he's uh he was very nice about it he was and i want to i want to address that a
07:54little bit with uh
07:55their team in general about some of that niceness yesterday but is he telling lies
08:02what's your definition of going to the basket because i think donovan mitchell might have a different
08:07definition he just said and give uh mitchell credit i'm glad i'm sorry donovan i know i'm not
08:12not allowed to use last names uh when you talk about the calves in this market but give donovan
08:18credit he he is he did say that's not why we lost the game but if you go to the
08:24basket that means
08:25you're at the rim i think the calves feel like oh if we get into the paint that's considered a
08:29drive
08:30how many times mitchell any of them drove got in there saw duran standing there and kicked it out
08:36you mentioned one of them before where they had like a five on three and mitchell got into the
08:40lane had an eight footer right there and kicked it back out guys take the two well take the two
08:46yeah do you obviously the calves shot 38 threes last night and you know 37 i think by and large
08:52that's
08:53pretty good the way wasn't horrible the way the shooting's been in the playoffs for a lot of these
08:57teams um last year against indiana and i know gentleman sweep they lost in five games he averaged
09:0414 free throws a game uh that's on the high side obviously he had to put the whole team on
09:11his back
09:12last year and he he was limping around but he found a way against that defense to get to the
09:18foul line
09:19in these playoffs now eight games only two free throws a game is there something that he now i've
09:25seen a lot of settles and i thought he uh he took some heat check threes in the first quarter
09:31that i was
09:31like man i'd like to put some stress on the defense of detroit i'd like to see if he could
09:37get them in
09:37foul trouble now he would argue well they're not calling fouls but the heat check threes i mean you're
09:43not going to draw a foul on heat check threes and i've seen a lot more settling this year in
09:48the
09:48playoffs from donovan mitchell than in years past i mean you know i understand and you and you were
09:55talking about the other day on the show about the raptors might be a little bit different in how
09:59they're how they play than the pistons and maybe if duran is out there and is energized and is is
10:06into it that's a tough guy to go at in the painted area he he how many i mean he
10:11had a couple blocks
10:12last night and jared allen which were pretty sweet to be honest with you in all ball i think the
10:16pistons in the back of their mind or excuse me the calves in the back of their mind we're we're
10:20looking at duran last night go go at him jump into his chest try to get him in foul trouble
10:25i thought
10:25duran had his way last night and that affected how the calves went to the basket period but it's
10:31one game change it up a little bit in game two be a little bit more aggressive i'm with you
10:36i thought
10:36there was way too much drive and kick last night all right so i i'm not i'm not killing donovan
10:42for
10:43addressing it i do think he the way he's driving is a little bit different and can you imagine
10:50what's running through dan gilbert's head as he sat there yesterday not far from his how far does
10:57he uh does he have to drive to get to the arena 25 minutes 25 minutes can you imagine what
11:04he was
11:05thinking as jb got to walk off the floor victorious over the cavaliers with a one nothing lead think
11:11about this anthony you've got mike brown jb bickerstaff should david blatt coach the sixers then we'd have
11:18triumphant that's right as long as it's not john b line well where is b line where is oh my
11:25john
11:25b lines in ann arbor of course he is of course he is chilling maybe uh him and tariko can
11:30hang out
11:31uh so so you know i i'm kind of with you like i know uh yes i was having some
11:37fun on social media
11:38yesterday and i was in my emotions about officiating notice i wasn't bailing out james harden on any of
11:43that those were those were not fouls uh that's just physical defense from cade and i mean the
11:48fact that james couldn't get by duncan robinson on one of those was humiliating i mean it was it
11:53was all-time bad i i do think and later in the show uh we'll see if the calves were
11:58able to find
11:59some things in the fourth quarter that i think they could use to springboard things in the second
12:04game which is going to be a crucial game coming up tomorrow again in detroit in game two but one
12:10thing
12:10i will say regardless of whether you think the officials had uh let's say a pronounced impact
12:18on that game yesterday because we went over the 35 to 16 free throw disparity the calves did settle for
12:24a lot of three-pointers i thought they were good looks i thought i thought they got a lot of
12:27good
12:27looks yesterday with that said jb bickerstaff we played the audio jb for 48 real time a real game
12:36minutes and about three hours of real time was talking to an official and i used to say
12:42matt in cleveland like here we go why is he expending so much energy he's going to be the
12:48the boy who cried wolf they're not going to give him calls but i gotta tell you yesterday looking at
12:54jb would have been nice if kenny would have talked to an official at some point or i don't know
12:57gotten
12:58off the bench yeah it would have been nice to stand up during every hold on every tv shot and
13:03i was
13:03not there last night but every tv shot you're right kenny against who was sitting down you want
13:10to read into it and go all right you know maybe maybe they just feel like we got to get
13:14one in
13:15detroit oh we're down 37 to 16 in the first quarter whatever it was maybe we'll maybe we'll try but
13:21maybe we'll really put our effort in a game too i don't think they think that way but you're right
13:26jb bickerstaff's been whining for years to the official he works them hard and uh you're right
13:32kenny last night at times was uh kind of kicking back on the bench but i mean did that have
13:37an
13:37effect on the outcome no i i truly don't piss the calves had no answers for durin underneath
13:43and uh you mentioned duncan robinson we haven't even talked about anthony he had a whale of a game
13:48he played very well very well and what about him and him and hardin little chest bump in little uh
13:54well they had to hold on they're still reviewing that in the league office for malicious intent yeah
13:59malicious what did they say no it wasn't malicious they said a hostile act yeah they thought james
14:05harden committed a hostile act i know when obviously the whole thing was instigated by
14:10duncan robinson hey he he was feeling good i have no problem with players you know having a little
14:15extra but james wasn't going to sit there and take it no when he went through his shoulder and now
14:20a despicable act in the joe buck voice yesterday i haven't seen uh i haven't seen heat like that
14:26since yesterday when you called into the afternoon show yeah well and and you know what they're gonna
14:32have some fun at my expense today rightfully so james harden was horrendous but i want to get to
14:36something so you said all right maybe maybe atkinson you know it's just get one of the two games but
14:43even atkinson talked about the lack of a sense of urgency listen to kenny after the game i thought
14:49second half better again first half was it wasn't just their bigs i thought just overall they were more
14:55forceful more energy i thought we again much better in the second half but um energy scale of
15:01one to ten they were nine and a half we were probably at a seven and that's you know it's
15:05tough
15:05tough to win on the road with that kind of disparity all right scale i don't know where he got
15:09seven from
15:10seven because i was very specific yeah you'd go lower owen you'd go even to a four yeah i'd go
15:15down to
15:16a four all right matt we watch different games matt all right um and kenny was right there on the
15:20sidelines what did you think scale of one to ten on kenny atkinson and his level of urgency
15:25yes i have a negative seven oh geez stick like glued to the bench like jared allen in the second
15:32half so you want him to rant rave and jump up and down i i think he got i didn't
15:37think the
15:37officiating was that bad you got but it doesn't matter it honestly it doesn't matter um i remember
15:42phil jackson he would go to his his arsenal he would pick out the sage old wise one he wouldn't
15:50say anything he'd sit on the bench right play through everything even in the nba finals he's
15:54got his guys playing through you know big runs against his team and he would just sit there very
16:00stoic he'd be handing out books on the bench to each and every player at halftime but one thing he
16:06would do is very in a strategic and calculated way he would decide which game he was gonna go
16:12after the refs well you want you want kenny to talk to the refs about the free throws i think
16:18i'd
16:18like to see him because kenny doesn't think it's the refs problem he thinks it's his own his own
16:23guy's problem listen listen to this i mean i'm just gonna continue to plead with him to get to the
16:28pain get to the rim that's all you can do that's all you control we just got to keep driving
16:32the ball
16:32you meet aggressiveness with aggressiveness and then we got to make the right reads so keep getting
16:36to the paint it'll it'll turn it usually does with the free throws listen there is a such thing as
16:43buying some calls here and there on the road and i'm just saying playing for him and you're pleading
16:48to me to drive to the rim and i'm going coach can you some say something to the refs for
16:53me like
16:54what do you think i'm gonna keep driving you gotta say something i just said donovan average 14 free
16:59throws a game last year against the pacers in that series he had a 21 free throw game in that
17:04series this year he's averaging two free throws a game and even if i was in agreement with you
17:09i think the calves they settle a little bit and donovan settled all i'm saying is the game was tied
17:15with like four minutes left might want to buy yourself a call might want to get up off the bench
17:19and talk to an official jb did it for three hours anthony they tied the game at 93 now what
17:25happened
17:26on the next two possessions i think the calves had a turnover pistons came down cutting him during
17:30dunk it was all and then cutting him during dunk again and yes we've we've been on for 53 minutes
17:36here and i've even mentioned the best player on the floor is on their team yeah he just 100 kate
17:41cunningham didn't have an mvp like performance last night so asking kenny atkinson to jump up and down
17:48that i don't know kate traveled or during pushed off no when you got it down to zero and it
17:53was 93 93
17:54the diff was zero and and despite all the turnovers you were there you were right in that
17:59game two dunks what do you want the coach to do the one thing i'll get on kenny atkinson about
18:04is
18:04when thomas bryant is giving you very little get him off the floor put jared allen well it'd be
18:09nice to see allen again please put jared he spent way too much time on the bench not that jared
18:13allen
18:14is ever going to pull a wilt chamberlain like he did on sunday against toronto but he needed to be
18:19back out there that was one where tb just wasn't bringing it and uh you got to get allen back
18:25out
18:25there to the fans alvis in cleveland what's up alvis hey how you doing good morning that'd be
18:30quick brother oh man my whole thing is this man that iso ball is ridiculous because all they're not
18:38moving they're not cutting they're just standing there watching and then i agree what you said what
18:42one of you guys said earlier about um driving to the basket you right under the hoop and they kick
18:48it back out they've been doing this both series and i'm not i'm not understanding that far as the
18:52refs they got to play through it because they're not going to get no calls you know they they go
18:58down
18:58and they get hacked but then when they go on the other end to defend you put a fingernail on
19:03them
19:04and they're calling calls so they need to really adjust man they live and die by the three which is
19:10the gift and the curse but all right they have to they they have to put they have to move
19:15the ball
19:16yeah because when they started moving the ball and kicking it out it was open they were creating
19:22shots and they were hitting buckets yes truce and ellis got things going uh schruder as well he turned
19:27the ball over i know we got to go matt but i will say in the second quarter there were
19:30some glaring
19:31possessions where no evan mobley no jared allen they they threw the ball back out to james harden with like
19:38eight on the shot clock and then bryant didn't know do i come up and set a screen do i
19:42not and
19:43it's like did you guys call a play on this possession and it happened two straight times
19:48and both of them ended up horrendously one of them was another turnover
19:52and an easy breakout the other way
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