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00:05From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York, it's Late Night with Seth Meyers.
00:12Tonight, Jon Hamm, star of K-pop's director and musician, Anderson .
00:18An all-new, closer look.
00:25And now, Seth Meyers.
00:28Good evening, everybody. I'm Seth Meyers.
00:30This is Late Night. We hope you're doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:34In a post yesterday on Truth Social,
00:37President Trump criticized Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar
00:40and Rashida Tlaib for interrupting his State of the Union address
00:44and said that they, quote,
00:46screamed uncontrollably last night at the very elegant State of the Union.
00:50Oh, is that the same elegant State of the Union
00:54where you signed a guy's Trump tie like you were...
00:57a retired pitcher at a card show?
01:01And in an interview this week, House Speaker Mike Johnson said
01:04if Republicans lost in the midterms,
01:06it would, quote,
01:06be the end of the Trump presidency in real effect.
01:09See how easy it is to come up with a winning message, you guys?
01:14In her opening statement, while testifying today
01:16before the House Oversight Committee about Jeffrey Epstein,
01:19Hillary Clinton criticized the panel
01:21and said that if they were serious about getting new information about Epstein,
01:24they would force President Trump to testify.
01:27Oh, that's a good idea.
01:28I'm sure he'd be very forthcoming.
01:31Oh, this is going to make me look bad,
01:33but then I did swear to tell the truth.
01:37You'd get more information
01:38if you forced Jeffrey Epstein to testify.
01:46He'd actually take the vow, you think?
01:53During a confirmation hearing yesterday,
01:55Surgeon General-designate Dr. Casey Means
01:58said she would not direct parents to vaccinate
02:00their children against measles and the flu,
02:03mainly because if children go to a doctor's office
02:05or a Walgreens, they'd have to put out their cigarettes.
02:12That kid was psyched today
02:13when we brought him in for the photo shoot.
02:16He's like, can I keep this?
02:18President Trump's America 250 task force
02:21unveiled the design today for an official time capsule
02:24that will be buried on July 4th
02:26to celebrate the country's 250th anniversary
02:29and then accidentally dug up next year
02:31when he demolishes the West Wing.
02:34Vice President J.D. Vance announced yesterday
02:37that the Trump administration will freeze
02:39nearly $260 million in Medicaid funding for Minnesota
02:43in an effort to combat fraud.
02:45Oh, sure, it's definitely because of the fraud
02:48and not to get back at them for laughing
02:50when that ICE agent slipped and fell on his ass.
02:54And yeah, yeah, we had to show the video.
02:57It's from the news.
03:01During a press conference yesterday,
03:03Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
03:05Administrator Dr. Mehmet Oz criticized people
03:08who scammed federal health care programs
03:11and called them, quote,
03:12self-serving scoundrels
03:13and then said the whole thing gave me a headache.
03:16Thank God I have these.
03:18Dr. Oz's sort of aspirin.
03:20Is it aspirin?
03:21Sort of.
03:22Buy it wherever pharmacists aren't paying attention.
03:27During their White Hat visit this week,
03:29President Trump reportedly served
03:30the U.S. men's Olympic hockey team McDonald's.
03:32I mean, of course he did.
03:33I think he only invites people to the White House
03:36so he can get McDonald's.
03:38This is a lot of people.
03:40Should we just hit the drive-thru?
03:43The website NorthJersey.com
03:46has launched a March Madness-style competition
03:48to determine the best chicken parmesan in the state,
03:52though it's going to be confusing
03:53when 30 of the choices are my cousin Angela's.
04:00Authorities in Canada recently raided two convenience stores
04:03and discovered illegal synthetic cannabis, cigars,
04:06knives, brass knuckles, and hallucinogenic edibles.
04:09That's crazy.
04:10Who goes to a convenience store to buy cigars?
04:15And finally, New York's MTA has announced
04:17that later this year,
04:18it will begin testing an audio advertising program.
04:22It will mark the first time passengers had ever said,
04:24Oh, thank God, a mariachi band.
04:28And that was a monologue, everybody!
04:32We've got a great show for you tonight.
04:35You know him from fantastic shows,
04:38such as your friends and neighbors and Mad Men,
04:40as well as films like Bridesmaids and Top Gun Maverick.
04:44He's currently starring in Hoppers,
04:45which is in theaters March 6th.
04:47Jon Hamm is back on the show, everybody.
04:52He's a Grammy Award-winning rapper, songwriter,
04:55drummer, record producer, making his directorial debut
04:57and starring in the film K-Pops.
04:59In theaters February 27th,
05:01Anderson .
05:02Pack will also be joining us.
05:04So happy to have him for the first time.
05:07Before we get to that,
05:09the Trump administration is once again
05:10threatening war with Iran over its nuclear program,
05:13despite claiming they already obliterated
05:15that nuclear program.
05:16For more on this, it's time for A Closer Look.
05:22I don't know if you guys remember,
05:24but before Trump took office in 2017,
05:26we had a deal with Iran
05:28to prevent them from building a nuclear weapon,
05:30and Trump really, really hated it.
05:32I've been doing deals for a long time.
05:34I've been making lots of wonderful deals, great deals.
05:38That's what I do.
05:39Never, ever, ever in my life
05:44have I seen any transaction
05:46so incompetently negotiated
05:49as our deal with Iran.
05:51You have...
05:52Your companies went bankrupt six times.
05:54Your list of failed businesses includes
05:56Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka,
05:58Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks,
05:59Trump Magazine, Trump University,
06:01Trump Waters, Trump Vitamins,
06:02and Trump the Game,
06:04which is like Monopoly,
06:06but instead of a thimble or a top hat,
06:08you can play as a golf ball or a hand.
06:13Seriously, can you imagine sitting at home
06:15and playing this with your family?
06:17Ooh, looks like I landed on community chess.
06:19Let's see.
06:20It says, uh-oh, you slept with a porn star.
06:24Pay $130,000.
06:26The point is, Trump really hated the Iran deal
06:29and immediately started messing with it,
06:31although he wasn't always super familiar
06:33with the words he was reading.
06:35Key House and Senate leaders
06:36are drafting legislation
06:38that would amend the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act
06:42to strengthen enforcement,
06:44prevent Iran from developing an internet...
06:48This is so totally important.
06:52An intercontinental ballistic missile.
06:55Nice save, dude.
07:00Nice save.
07:02I thought he said internet,
07:04but then he said this is really important.
07:09Did you really think the teleprompter
07:11said the words an internet missile?
07:13I mean, what's an internet missile anyway?
07:16A text to the family group chat
07:17that says dad cheated on mom?
07:20Now that, that's a nuke.
07:24Seriously, who is the staffer
07:26who met President Trump and thought,
07:27oh, he'll be able to say
07:30intercontinental ballistic missile, no problem?
07:33That is one optimistic young man.
07:35They're developing an inter-condo.
07:39Where the is, Kevin?
07:43Seriously, dude,
07:44if you can't say the words
07:44intercontinental ballistic missile,
07:46then just don't put them in the script.
07:47You know, use acronyms like WMD,
07:49which stands for Weapons of Mass Destruction,
07:51or GSP, which stands for Giant Sky Penis.
07:54Now, just FYI, no one uses that one yet,
07:57but I am trying to make it a thing.
07:59The point is, stick to words you can pronounce.
08:01It's like how my writers know
08:02not to put the word pundit in a script
08:04because I pronounce it with a second N
08:06at the end, like pundit,
08:08which, as we all know,
08:09is what you say when someone makes a bad pun.
08:11You know, oh, no, you pundit.
08:20Are we happy?
08:23Are we happy we made me say that today?
08:27So, Trump scrapped a deal
08:28we already had in place
08:29to stop Iran from building a bomb.
08:31Fast forward to 2025,
08:33when he bombed Iran
08:35to stop them from building a bomb.
08:37Top officials there at the Pentagon
08:38describing what they're calling
08:41Operation Midnight Hammer,
08:42the U.S. airstrikes on Iran.
08:44We obliterated Iran's nuclear capacity
08:48in Operation Midnight Hammer.
08:50That was Operation Midnight Hammer
08:53achieving total obliteration
08:55of the Iran nuclear potential capability.
08:58Totally obliterated.
09:00The United States military
09:02obliterated Iran's nuclear weapons program
09:04with an attack on Iranian soil
09:06known as Operation Midnight Hammer.
09:09Please stop saying Operation Midnight Hammer.
09:13Sounds like one of those movies
09:14you and your friends would try to watch
09:15on scrambled Cinemax
09:17at a sleepover at 2 a.m.
09:19I think I see part of a boob!
09:23I do remember my first apartment in New York.
09:25The walls were so thin,
09:26I could always tell when my neighbors
09:28were doing an Operation Midnight Hammer.
09:30And I would yell,
09:31hey, people are trying to sleep!
09:32And they'd say, be quiet,
09:33or we're going to nuke you!
09:34And I'd say, how are you going to nuke me?
09:36And they'd yell,
09:36your dad is in here with us!
09:44We haven't, I mean,
09:45we haven't Operation Midnight Hammered
09:46at home for a long time.
09:47We're just so tired.
09:51Iran's nuclear program was completely
09:53and totally obliterated.
09:55They made it clear,
09:55which is why he got very upset
09:57when leaks quickly came out
09:59that suggested maybe it was only semi-obliterated.
10:02Sources telling CNN
10:03that according to an early
10:04U.S. intelligence assessment,
10:06the U.S. military strikes
10:08on three of Iran's nuclear facilities
10:10last weekend did not destroy
10:11the core components
10:12of the country's nuclear program.
10:14As of right now,
10:15it does not appear that they ended
10:18or obliterated Iran's nuclear program.
10:20U.S. officials are telling multiple outlets
10:22that according to a new classified report
10:24by the Defense Intelligence Agency,
10:26those strikes only set Iran's nuclear program
10:29back by about six months.
10:31You did all that for six months?
10:33Are you sure it wasn't
10:34Operation Midnight Love Tap?
10:36Six months.
10:37Six months is not good.
10:38If you called your landlord
10:39to come fix the leak in your roof
10:41and he said it should hold
10:42for another six months,
10:43and you said,
10:43but I have four years left on my lease,
10:46and then he said,
10:46well, then that's plenty of time
10:47to buy an umbrella,
10:49and then you said,
10:50could you at least talk
10:50to the neighbors for me?
10:51And he said, why?
10:52And you said,
10:52because they're boning my dad!
10:57Now, those leaks enraged the White House,
10:59so they sent out
10:59former Morning Show host Pete Hegseth,
11:02who, much like Iran's nuclear program,
11:04always seemed semi-obliterated,
11:06and Hegseth ripped into the media
11:08for daring to question
11:09the success of the mission.
11:10Because you cheer against Trump so hard,
11:14it's like in your DNA
11:15and in your blood
11:16to cheer against Trump,
11:18because you want him
11:19not to be successful so bad,
11:21you have to cheer against
11:23the efficacy of these strikes.
11:25You have to hope
11:26maybe they weren't effective,
11:28because whether it's fake news,
11:30CNN, MSNBC,
11:32or The New York Times,
11:34there's been fawning coverage
11:36of a preliminary assessment.
11:38I've had a chance to read it.
11:39Every outlet has breathlessly reported
11:42on a preliminary assessment.
11:44You want to call it destroyed,
11:45you want to call it defeated,
11:47you want to call it obliterated,
11:48choose your word.
11:50Giant sky penis.
11:52I know it's three words,
11:53but you said I could choose.
11:55But you heard him,
11:56you fake news haters,
11:58you just want Trump
11:58to fail so badly,
11:59you won't admit
12:00Operation Midnight Hammer
12:01was a raging, throbbing,
12:03pulsing success.
12:04Iran's nuclear program
12:06was obliterated.
12:07Boom.
12:07Done.
12:08Moving on to the next.
12:10President Trump's special envoy
12:11warning Iran could be
12:12just a week away now
12:13from having industrial-grade
12:15bomb-making material,
12:16as President Trump says
12:17he is considering military action
12:19against the regime.
12:20They're probably a week away
12:21from having industrial-grade
12:26bomb-making material,
12:28and that's really dangerous.
12:30A week away?
12:31What happened to destroyed,
12:32defeated, and obliterated?
12:33I thought Operation Midnight Hammer
12:35was a rock-hard success.
12:36It's looking pretty limp right now.
12:39Sounds like we're about to get
12:41Operation Midnight Hammer 2
12:43pounding some Cialis.
12:45So they were either lying then
12:47or they're lying now.
12:48Can someone clear this up?
12:49How about the vice president?
12:51Can you explain to the American people
12:52why the United States would need
12:54to strike Iran to stop them
12:55from getting a nuclear weapon
12:56if the United States obliterated
12:58their enrichment program last summer?
13:00Well, I'm not going to make
13:01any news on Iran today.
13:02No one's asking you to make news,
13:04but could you, you know, explain it?
13:07That answer only makes us more suspicious.
13:10It's like if your spouse says,
13:11can you explain why you were out all night
13:14if you told me you'd be at work
13:15and you say,
13:15I'm not going to make any news on that.
13:18Your spouse would say,
13:19well, I have news.
13:20You're on the lawn.
13:23Now, that answer didn't work,
13:24so Republicans are switching to a new tack,
13:26claiming Iran is just rebuilding
13:28the program Trump obliterated.
13:30And to make that argument,
13:31they sent out one of their top-notch communicators,
13:34Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
13:36who's so good with words,
13:37he has not one, but two first names.
13:41Take it away, Mark Wayne.
13:42They're obviously trying to rebuild it.
13:44Right.
13:45They're not going to let that happen.
13:45If we obliterated it,
13:47we being the United States last summer,
13:49then why are you worried about it right now?
13:51Because they're rebuilding it.
13:52And you can see them rebuilding it.
13:54But it was obliterated.
13:55But it doesn't mean you can't rebuild.
13:57I mean, people have car accidents
13:58and obliterate their bones and their legs,
14:01and yet they can still put, you know,
14:03they can still put metal back in them
14:04and walk again.
14:14Nothing is a bigger bummer
14:15than when someone throws a you-know
14:17into a sentence
14:17when you have no idea what they're talking about.
14:19Like, in your life,
14:20have you heard anyone say
14:21they or someone they knew
14:24obliterated their bones
14:26and then had metal put in
14:28so they could walk again?
14:29Seriously, I rarely give medical advice on this show.
14:31But if you ever go to a doctor for a leg problem
14:33and the doctor says,
14:34well, bad news, you obliterated your bones.
14:37Good news, we can put some metal in
14:39so you can walk again.
14:40You need to hop out of there
14:43as fast as you can.
14:45So we obliterated their program,
14:47but that doesn't mean they can't rebuild it.
14:49So where does that leave us?
14:50Like, we have to bomb them once a year forever?
14:54Should we just add it to the list?
14:55Remember, every February,
14:57we got to change the batteries
14:58and the smoke detectors,
14:59we got to get the tires rotated,
15:01and we got to bomb the out of Iran.
15:04Their argument is incoherent because they lied.
15:07They scrapped the Iran nuclear deal for one reason.
15:09Obama did it.
15:10Now they're negotiating to strike a new deal
15:12to do the same thing as the old deal
15:14and threatening to obliterate a nuclear program.
15:16They said they already obliterated.
15:18It makes no sense.
15:19These guys talk like they've been hit on the head
15:21with a midnight hammer
15:22and a closer look.
15:28We'll be right back with Jon Hamm, everybody!
15:36For more of Seth's Closer Looks,
15:38be sure to subscribe to Late Night on YouTube.
15:49Our first guest tonight is an Emmy
15:51winning actor you know from his work
15:52on Your Friends and Neighbors,
15:54Mad Men, The Morning Show, and Fargo,
15:56as well as movies like Bridesmaids
15:57and Top Gun Maverick.
15:59He stars in Hoppers,
16:00which is in theaters on March 6th.
16:02Please welcome back to the show
16:03our very good friend Jon Hamm, everybody!
16:22Hello!
16:25Hello!
16:25Hello!
16:26What a reception!
16:27It's a really nice crowd tonight.
16:28I just, you know, this can't be a mistake,
16:30but I just figured out what this is.
16:31What is this?
16:32Operation Midnight Hammer.
16:33This right here!
16:34Thank you!
16:35You know, it might be,
16:36if you're watching at home right now,
16:37if it's midnight,
16:39when he said it, it's official.
16:41Call it what it is.
16:41I mean, by the way,
16:42if we could rename this show...
16:45If I could rename myself!
16:46If you got a late night show
16:47and you called it Operation Midnight Hammer...
16:50Oh, it's not too late.
16:51It's not too late.
16:51You know what?
16:52I've been making fun of that name,
16:53but it's super rad.
16:54I take it all back.
16:55I never do this.
16:57I retract my closer look.
17:00By the way, speaking of successes,
17:03I feel like you have parlayed...
17:05Look, I think sometimes, you know,
17:07I forget that there are cool things
17:08we can do all the time,
17:10and you did maybe the coolest.
17:11Last summer, Bad Bunny was doing shows
17:13in Puerto Rico,
17:14and you went.
17:16You went.
17:20I wouldn't...
17:21I wouldn't...
17:22Don't take this the wrong way.
17:23I wouldn't think you would naturally
17:24fit into those environs,
17:26but, my God, you really do.
17:27I mean, dress for the job you want.
17:31Like a dude at a Bad Bunny show.
17:33How was...
17:33I mean, seeing Bad Bunny in Puerto Rico,
17:35that's just the peak of it.
17:37It was spectacular.
17:37I mean, it was, I don't know,
17:38a 20,000-seat arena.
17:40Right.
17:40Everybody knew all the words.
17:42The whole place was kind of vibing,
17:43and my wife, Anna, full credit,
17:46was like, we gotta go.
17:47Yes.
17:48So, we did.
17:49That's so fantastic.
17:50And then, just a week later,
17:51I mean, because, again,
17:52you come by this honestly.
17:53You're a real fan of Bad Bunny.
17:55You were in the stands there.
17:57And I like very similar.
18:02I defy you to find someone
18:03having a better time.
18:04Are you guys friends now?
18:06No, but we have the same birthday.
18:08You and Bad Bunny have the same...
18:09That's very exciting.
18:09Isn't that exciting?
18:10That's great.
18:10March 10th.
18:11Wow.
18:12I'm a little older than he.
18:13Yeah.
18:14And, but, like, obviously,
18:16you interact.
18:16Does he, when you interact with him,
18:18like, are you allowed to call him, like,
18:20Benito?
18:20Benito?
18:21Yes.
18:21Okay.
18:21What does he call you?
18:22Well, come on.
18:26I mean, if you're gonna,
18:27you gotta, right?
18:28Lean in.
18:29You also, you were at the Super Bowl.
18:31I was.
18:32And you were caught enjoying
18:34probably one of the, you know,
18:36top five halftime shows of all time,
18:37certainly.
18:38At least.
18:38Yeah.
18:39And let's take a look.
18:40Here's John and his friend Benito.
18:49Once again, I defy you.
18:53I defy you to find someone
18:54having a better time.
18:55And by the way, like,
18:56that's just the right about a moving for...
18:5954.
19:00Yeah.
19:00Anything more...
19:01But, like, it wasn't...
19:02You didn't look like you didn't know
19:04how to move,
19:04but you didn't get too over your skis.
19:06A suggestion of a dance.
19:07Yeah, that was a...
19:08Also, I have to shout out
19:09my awesome jersey.
19:10That was a 1970s
19:12St. Louis Cardinals jersey.
19:13Yeah.
19:14That's really nice.
19:15Guessing the only one
19:16in a very large stadium that day.
19:18Pretty much.
19:19Yeah.
19:20Not a lot of Big Red fans.
19:21Not a lot of Jim Hart stans.
19:23Jim Hart stans.
19:24Did you...
19:25You hosted the NFL Honors.
19:26I did.
19:27I'm lucky enough
19:27to do that as well.
19:28Man, how fun is that?
19:29It's really fun.
19:30Everybody's in a very good mood.
19:32And watching, like,
19:33large gentlemen geek out
19:35over other large gentlemen.
19:36Yeah.
19:37And seeing fingers
19:39that are bending the wrong way.
19:40Just all the crazy
19:41NFL-specific things
19:43that are so fun.
19:44And they're there
19:46to have a good time.
19:46They are.
19:47Like, the people
19:47who are at that award show,
19:48you know, their season is over.
19:49And they rarely get to,
19:50I feel like, be together
19:51without having to hit each other.
19:53One team gets to win
19:53the Super Bowl.
19:54Yeah.
19:54But everybody...
19:55A lot of those guys
19:55had great years.
19:56Yeah, of course.
19:57So give them a little party.
19:58So you don't get intimidated
19:59when you're telling jokes
20:00about giant people.
20:01I don't.
20:01Yeah.
20:02But I also leave very quickly.
20:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:05This guy...
20:06I did not realize this.
20:07We were talking backstage
20:08about Mad Men,
20:09a show that, I mean,
20:10was one of my favorite
20:11when it was on.
20:13Endures.
20:14Holds up.
20:15I always say, like,
20:16one of the great things,
20:17you know, about, like,
20:18you know, sort of, you know,
20:19that it was like
20:20a period drama, right?
20:21Is that it was not
20:21about the time it was made.
20:23And so it, like,
20:23it doesn't date badly.
20:25Yeah, it doesn't get dated.
20:26But...
20:26Anything that didn't
20:27really play well then
20:29still doesn't play well.
20:31100%.
20:31But John Slattery
20:34was saying that
20:35he was actually
20:35originally told
20:36that he was coming
20:37in for Don Draper.
20:39I don't know
20:40who told him that.
20:41Yeah.
20:41But he was quickly
20:43disabused of that notion.
20:45When did...
20:46But you had many...
20:47You were not
20:47an obvious choice to them.
20:49I was the last person
20:50on everybody's list.
20:51And how many times
20:52did you actually go in
20:53and audition for it?
20:54Seven or eight.
20:54Wow.
20:55And did you...
20:56At what point
20:57did you allow yourself
20:57to start thinking
20:58that it was maybe
20:59the reason it kept
21:00bringing you in
21:00is that you were close?
21:01Right around the 8th.
21:02Okay, gotcha.
21:04It was...
21:05By that point,
21:06they'd flown me
21:06from L.A. to New York
21:07on somebody's miles.
21:09Yeah.
21:12And I got here
21:13and we had this large
21:14sort of meeting
21:15with all the executives
21:16and Matthew Weiner,
21:17the creator,
21:17and Scott Hornbach,
21:18the producer.
21:19They were coming out
21:19and they were saying,
21:20just act like you've got the job.
21:21Act like you've got the job.
21:22I was like,
21:22then just give me the job.
21:24Yeah.
21:24Like, act like you've got the job.
21:26No.
21:27But we had this...
21:28Then later,
21:28they were like,
21:29act like we paid you.
21:30Act like you have
21:31a ticket back home.
21:34But we had this drinks meeting
21:35and we're going down
21:36the elevator.
21:37It was on the rooftop
21:38of the Maritime Hotel.
21:39Oh, yeah.
21:40Sure.
21:40And we're going down
21:41the elevator
21:42and the lady who was
21:43running things at the time
21:44goes,
21:44well, you know,
21:45you've got the job.
21:45I was like,
21:46I didn't.
21:46The whole meeting,
21:47it would have been
21:48so much more fun
21:48if you told me
21:49at the beginning
21:49of the meeting
21:50we could have had a toast.
21:52Yeah.
21:52It's a...
21:53I mean,
21:53that very much
21:55the same experience
21:55when I found out
21:56I got SNL,
21:57which is like,
21:58you know,
21:58you know,
21:58Lauren,
21:59last guy to be like,
22:00good news.
22:03I think he was like,
22:04just have somebody whisper it
22:05in the back of the elevator
22:06he rides down in.
22:07Like, the same thing.
22:08There was never that moment
22:10of like...
22:10But make it in Russian.
22:11You know,
22:11if there's ever a moment
22:12to like pop a bottle
22:13of champagne and...
22:14Exactly.
22:14It would have been fun.
22:15The really fun part, though,
22:16was that when we got down
22:17the elevator,
22:19the elevator doors open up
22:20and there's a throng
22:21of paparazzi.
22:22And I was like,
22:23oh, my God, wow,
22:24this is really happening fast.
22:25But they're all speaking German.
22:27Oh, yeah.
22:27Which is disconcerting
22:29in the best of times.
22:31And I didn't realize this,
22:33but on the elevator with me
22:34was Franz Beckenbauer.
22:36Oh, the famous soccer player.
22:37Famous German soccer player.
22:38Wow.
22:39So they were not...
22:40And then was Franz...
22:41Franz was like,
22:42you know he has a job.
22:45That's a real look.
22:46Have Beckenbauer tell him.
22:47Have Beckenbauer tell him.
22:49All right, stick around.
22:50We'll be right back
22:50with Marvin Johnson.
23:12What are you doing?
23:14What do you want?
23:17Please don't hurt me.
23:18Wait.
23:22Can't believe I have to do this.
23:25We are your friends,
23:28Red Heart.
23:30Your life is in danger.
23:32You must do exactly as we say,
23:34Harry.
23:35LOL.
23:36I mean, Jerry.
23:37You know my name?
23:38Oh, no.
23:39Wait.
23:40What?
23:41Is this about the dam?
23:42Are you here for revenge?
23:44What do you want?
23:44Relax, bro.
23:46Just drive to the Glade.
23:48Cancel your dumb highway.
23:49And no one will get hurt.
23:51Welcome back, everybody.
23:52We're here with Jon Hamm.
23:54And that was a clip from Hoppers.
23:56Very exciting.
23:57Pixar film.
23:58Super cool.
23:59Super cool.
24:00Do real quick.
24:01We noticed a very awkward thing
24:02during the commercial break.
24:03How many times have you hosted SNL now?
24:04Four.
24:05Four times.
24:05Been on the show, but I don't know.
24:0715, 16.
24:07Cameo-wise, 15, 16 times.
24:09You know the family well.
24:10I feel like part of the family.
24:12And the most closest family member
24:14when you host the show, Wally.
24:15You heard Wally, right?
24:16Of course.
24:16No first name basis?
24:17First name basis.
24:18I mean, I would probably say
24:19I would invite him to a party if I,
24:21you know.
24:21Yeah.
24:22That's kind of stuff.
24:22And yet we saw the car.
24:25Now, I know Wally's last name.
24:26Yeah.
24:27Ferriston.
24:27Ferriston.
24:28F-E-R-E-S-T-E-N.
24:29Yep.
24:29Ferriston.
24:30I can spell that.
24:31And then we look over here.
24:32Wally?
24:33Jon Hamm, 1M.
24:34Yeah.
24:37He 1M'd you.
24:39That's the worst 1M-ing
24:40I've ever had happen to me.
24:42I mean, Anderson Paak,
24:44I don't think Wally's ever met him.
24:46Got it perfect.
24:46He got the dot in there.
24:47He got the dot in there.
24:48Which is not pronounced.
24:50The amount of care he put into Anderson Paak.
24:53And then he 1M'd you.
24:552As for Anderson Paak.
24:56Yeah, got it all right.
24:58He probably was like,
24:59it can't be 2Ms and 2As.
25:01Come on.
25:03I wonder if he 1-I's Kristen Wiig.
25:05Oh, you think he 1-I's Wiig?
25:08I wouldn't put it past you.
25:1315-year anniversary of Bridesmaids, by the way.
25:1515-year anniversary of Bridesmaids.
25:20Impossible.
25:20I know.
25:21We were saying, like,
25:22I will say, like,
25:23one of the reasons I can't believe it's 15,
25:24I mean, you, Rose Byrne, Kristen Wiig,
25:26all, you all look great.
25:28Like, it's not like where I'm seeing any of you being like,
25:31the time has been hard on that.
25:32Yes.
25:34Uh, listen, a good spray tan covers all the ills.
25:38I went in your dressing room.
25:39It was, like, everywhere.
25:40It was on the walls.
25:42Hoppers, this is very fun.
25:44Do you like that moment where you get to be
25:45an animated version of yourself?
25:47Oh, my God.
25:48I think it's amazing.
25:50I'm no stranger to doing animated stuff.
25:51It's a great gig.
25:52But Pixar does it better than most.
25:54Yeah, that's a whole not a thing.
25:55Look, and Mayor Jerry.
25:56Come on.
25:57I will say, speaking of us aging,
26:01there's a close-up of me while I'm getting ready
26:03and putting on my tie.
26:04And they show me kind of brushing my hair.
26:06And they animate it with gray in it.
26:08I was like, guys.
26:11Guys.
26:12And they were like, sorry, you're just,
26:14when kids hear your voice,
26:16they're going to thank you have gray hair.
26:20And then congratulations,
26:22your friends and neighbors, coming back.
26:24Coming back.
26:25Season 2 will be in early April.
26:28And you're already,
26:29we already know you're going to do a Season 3.
26:31Shooting Season 3 starting in May.
26:32So it's very exciting.
26:33It means I get to come to New York and be in New York.
26:35You get to be, hopefully you'll come back on this show.
26:37Absolutely.
26:38We get to hang out.
26:38You had a very meme-able moment in Season 1.
26:42This is kind of a way people,
26:46I think this.
26:48That looks like a still from Heated Rivalry.
26:50It does look like a still from Heated Rivalry, yeah.
26:54They framed out your skates.
26:57that wasn't the only thing they framed out.
27:00Hey-oh.
27:02Have you watched, have you,
27:03are you into Heated Rivalry yet?
27:05I was, I was.
27:07Oh, right.
27:08I was actually in Canada shooting in Winnipeg
27:11for the last six months, a new project.
27:13And it was a big deal up there.
27:15Yeah.
27:15Boy, oh boy.
27:16And I, but not as big as it is down here.
27:18No, it's crazy.
27:18I just went over to your neighbors
27:20and saw Connor.
27:22Oh, that's right.
27:22Connor's hosting us an hour.
27:24Doing great.
27:26Looking great.
27:27Yeah.
27:28Smells nice.
27:29Yeah, it's very,
27:30they're not animating him with gray hair.
27:31No, they are not.
27:32No.
27:33He has,
27:34maybe he should be under arrest
27:36for stealing our youth.
27:37Oh boy.
27:38I also want to talk about
27:40your unanimated dog.
27:41This is a real life dog.
27:42Murphy.
27:43How is,
27:44how's Murphy?
27:45He's great.
27:47So the idea,
27:48the idea of hoppers
27:49is that you can jump
27:50into the mind of an animal.
27:52In this case,
27:53beavers and whatnot.
27:54They're saving nature.
27:56In reality,
27:57I hop into this one's mind
27:59all the time.
27:59You do?
28:00Yes.
28:00And when you're in Murphy's mind,
28:02like, what do you think
28:02he's thinking?
28:03Like, when am I going to eat?
28:05Yeah.
28:06How much is too much sleep?
28:08Yeah.
28:09And also,
28:10when are we going to get to ride
28:11on that cool private plane again
28:12and go back to New York?
28:13Oh, gotcha.
28:14That's basically him.
28:14So he's already spoiled.
28:16He's ridiculous.
28:17Does he,
28:19does I,
28:19you and your wife,
28:20does he have a favorite?
28:21Or?
28:22No.
28:23Okay.
28:23Equal opportunity.
28:24Gotcha.
28:24Doesn't care for either of you.
28:26Yeah.
28:26Just like,
28:28whoever's bringing me
28:28the most food,
28:29the soonest.
28:31But he's,
28:31he's the best.
28:32He's about 95 pounds.
28:34Great.
28:34He's a chunk
28:34and he's a rescue
28:35and he's a sweetheart.
28:37That's fantastic.
28:37Well,
28:38I am always so happy to see you.
28:40I can't wait till your next visit.
28:42Thank you so much for being here.
28:43I love you.
28:43Jean-Hammol.
28:45QM's.
28:46Hoppers.
28:46In theaters March 6th.
28:47We'll be right back with Anderson .
28:48Pack.
29:06Our next guest is a nine-time
29:09Grammy Award-winning rapper,
29:10songwriter,
29:11drummer,
29:12and record producer.
29:13He's making his directorial debut
29:15and starring alongside his son
29:17in the film K-Pops,
29:18which opens in theaters
29:19February 27th.
29:21Let's take a look.
29:22Now,
29:22follow me.
29:23See these?
29:25These are the Avengers of music.
29:27Sick.
29:27Mm-hmm.
29:28And if K-pop is about
29:30boy bands and girl bands,
29:31well,
29:31hell,
29:32this has got to be
29:32one of the greatest boy bands ever,
29:34the Jackson 5.
29:35Yep.
29:36To put in your low K-pop terms,
29:38Michael Jackson
29:38would be the center,
29:41the face of the group,
29:42the ace of all aces.
29:44In that case,
29:45that makes BTS
29:48today's Jackson 5.
29:49That's right.
29:51The Jacksons walked
29:52in order for BTS
29:53to dance.
29:55They wouldn't be here
29:55if it wasn't for them.
29:56And in order to know
29:57where you're going,
29:58you gotta know where you've been.
29:59You dig?
30:00Please welcome to the show
30:01Anderson .
30:02Pack, everybody.
30:29I am so happy to have you here.
30:31I've been a fan for a long time
30:32and to get to talk to you
30:33about your directorial debut
30:35is very exciting.
30:36It is, man.
30:37And that's your actual son.
30:40Yes, I'm pretty sure.
30:41Yeah, it is.
30:42You got to act with your son
30:43and this sort of was born
30:44out of the fact
30:45that you guys started
30:46doing skits and stuff
30:48during quarantine.
30:49Yeah, quarantine.
30:50I was stuck at the house,
30:51had to tap in with the kids.
30:53Yeah.
30:53And he was obsessed
30:55with two things,
30:55being a YouTuber
30:56and K-pop.
30:57I didn't know
30:58about either of them.
30:59Right.
31:00And I started tapping in
31:01and I saw his YouTube.
31:03He was playing video games
31:04and stuff and I thought
31:05that was cool,
31:05but I was like,
31:05son, we should do
31:06like some skits
31:07and we should do some,
31:08like, you know, funny bits
31:09and that's what I used to do
31:10with my sisters.
31:10Like, we used to make
31:11home videos and, you know,
31:13do all kinds of stuff like that
31:14and then I went over
31:16and saw this K-pop stuff
31:17and I was like,
31:18okay.
31:19And that's when I knew
31:20I was becoming a parent
31:20because I was like,
31:21you don't know
31:22what that's really from.
31:24I know you know about K-pop,
31:25what you know about Tupac?
31:28I know you know about BTS,
31:29what you know about BET?
31:31And so,
31:32I started realizing,
31:33okay, yeah,
31:33I'm really getting old
31:34and also, like,
31:35I started getting really inspired.
31:36Yeah.
31:36I was like,
31:37I want to write something.
31:38This could be fun.
31:38Now, I believe you
31:40and see you as a very cool person.
31:43Does your child,
31:44does he think you're cool?
31:45Absolutely not.
31:45Okay, great.
31:46Yeah.
31:47I take relief from that.
31:48Yeah.
31:49There was a time.
31:50Yeah.
31:50You know,
31:51when I was writing the script,
31:52he was about eight years old.
31:53You know,
31:53movies take forever.
31:54Yeah.
31:55So,
31:55by the time we started shooting,
31:57he was like 11 years old
31:58and he's like,
31:58I don't like K-pop anymore.
31:59I like Slipknot.
32:01I'm like,
32:02Slipknot.
32:04I can figure this out.
32:06I can't change this to Slipknot.
32:08Contractually,
32:09contractually,
32:09this is going to be,
32:10I'm binded, son.
32:11We owe a lot of people.
32:12So, yeah,
32:12we, uh...
32:13Yeah.
32:14He doesn't know.
32:14You've got to teach him contracts.
32:15Exactly.
32:16He learned,
32:17for sure.
32:17Yeah.
32:17Actually,
32:18while we're,
32:18I'm going to use that transition
32:19to talk about contracts
32:20because you have a lot of tattoos.
32:23So,
32:23these are tattoos
32:24of just some legends.
32:25I mean,
32:25you can probably teach your son
32:26a lot of music history
32:27from just showing him the tattoos.
32:29Yeah,
32:29those are my Avengers.
32:30So,
32:30those are your Avengers.
32:31But then you also have a tattoo
32:33of Animal
32:34from The Muppet Show.
32:35Yep.
32:36But underneath Animal,
32:38you have,
32:39this is like,
32:39it looks like this is a legal disclaimer.
32:41It is.
32:42Yeah.
32:42Can you read it for me real quick?
32:44When I'm gone,
32:44please don't release
32:45any posthumous albums
32:46or songs with my name attached.
32:48Those were just demos
32:49and never intended
32:50to be heard by the public.
32:52That is...
32:56I mean,
32:56you must really be worried
32:58if you want to put that on you.
33:00On real particulars.
33:02Well,
33:02you are very particular
33:03and I read the reason,
33:05you know,
33:05we were talking about
33:05how you have a dot
33:07in your name.
33:07Yeah.
33:08What does that represent?
33:10Detail.
33:10The detail.
33:11Yeah, detail.
33:11You know,
33:12when someone like Jon Hamm
33:13or like,
33:14you know,
33:14legends come on,
33:15you know,
33:15you want them to remember you.
33:17And I was overlooked
33:18for so many years
33:19and I felt like
33:20that's like my green M&M.
33:21Like,
33:22because you guys
33:22overlooked me
33:23for so many years,
33:24I'm going to make y'all
33:24put that dot.
33:25If you don't put that dot,
33:26it's going to say
33:26a lot about you.
33:28Yeah.
33:28You talk about
33:29being overlooked
33:30for many years
33:31and now you have
33:32nine Grammys.
33:32Congratulations.
33:33That's no strong thing.
33:37Four.
33:38Four of those,
33:40you won with Silk Sonic
33:41with Bruno Mars.
33:43There's you and Bruno.
33:44Bruno Mars.
33:45What was,
33:46how did this,
33:47how did this collaboration
33:48first start?
33:49I opened for him
33:50in 2016,
33:52the 24 Karat Magic Tour.
33:53He took me on the road
33:54and then
33:56I didn't hear
33:56anything from him
33:57because that record
33:58was so big
33:58but then during quarantine
34:00he hit me up
34:00and he's like,
34:00what you doing?
34:01I'm like,
34:01nothing.
34:02And he's like,
34:02yeah,
34:02I ain't doing nothing either.
34:03Like,
34:03why don't you come
34:04to the studio?
34:05And he was working
34:06on music
34:06and some of the music
34:07that he was working on
34:07was stuff that we started
34:08on tour
34:09and he was like,
34:10still working on it
34:11for years
34:11and I got in there
34:12in the booth
34:12and started working
34:13and doing music
34:14and the next day
34:15he's like,
34:15alright,
34:16we're starting a group.
34:16We're wearing bell bottoms.
34:19It's going to be
34:19me and you.
34:20This is the name of it.
34:21The first name
34:22was like Ivory Horse
34:23or like something weird
34:24like that.
34:25Yeah.
34:25And then,
34:26yeah,
34:26I was like,
34:26if we get the name together
34:28I might do this.
34:29It's going with Silk Sonic.
34:31Silk Sonic's a great name.
34:32You also,
34:33you have some alter egos.
34:35Is that correct?
34:36Personas.
34:37These are all fantastic looks
34:38by the way.
34:39Each one better than a laugh.
34:40But while we're talking
34:41about names,
34:42let me run down
34:44some of your different personas.
34:45There's Breezy Lovejoy.
34:46Mm-hmm.
34:48DJ Peewee.
34:48Yep.
34:50Cheeky Andy.
34:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:51Do you have a favorite
34:52of those?
34:53Oh, man.
34:54Breezy Lovejoy
34:54is kind of cool.
34:55That's like the genesis.
34:56Uh-huh.
34:57Yeah, you know.
34:57Is Breezy photographed here?
34:59Breezy Lovejoy
35:00is not photographed there.
35:01Okay, gotcha.
35:02Breezy's very hard
35:02to capture on camera.
35:03Very heavyset.
35:04Yeah, yeah.
35:05Very gassy, too.
35:07Yeah.
35:07I obliterated your bathroom.
35:10You did?
35:11Oh, no.
35:12Obliterated it.
35:12You also,
35:14how did you start drumming?
35:15I mean, obviously,
35:16this is something
35:16that starts at a young age.
35:18Yeah, I was trying
35:19to get attention
35:20from girls
35:21at a very young age,
35:22and I was...
35:22What age was it?
35:23I was about 10 years old.
35:25Okay.
35:2511.
35:26Around the time
35:27it was like 6th grade,
35:28and I wanted to play sax.
35:30I was like,
35:30I'm going to play sax.
35:31That's the one
35:32that's like romantic.
35:33I could be outside
35:34of the window
35:34like serenading.
35:37And, yeah,
35:38they were like,
35:38there's no more saxophones.
35:40You can do flute
35:41or you can play the drum.
35:42Oh, yeah.
35:42And I was like,
35:43okay, well,
35:45definitely not playing flute,
35:46so I guess I'm going to go with...
35:47No, if a guy
35:47was playing flute
35:48under your window,
35:49that would not have the same effect.
35:50It doesn't have the same effect.
35:51But neither did
35:52this big old bass drum either,
35:53and that's what they gave me.
35:54So I was honestly
35:55about to quit,
35:56and I got home,
35:57and my step pops
35:58was on the drum kit.
35:59He had a full drum kit,
36:00and I was like,
36:01okay, that could be cool.
36:03Did you take to it right away?
36:04Was it a match?
36:06As soon as he got off
36:07and I got on the kit,
36:08I picked up the sticks
36:10and just started playing,
36:10and it was like
36:11one of the first things
36:12I ever did
36:13that I just picked up
36:14really quick,
36:15and I was like a natural.
36:16My mom came dancing
36:17in her moo-moo.
36:17She was like,
36:18okay.
36:19Yeah.
36:22And I was like,
36:22yeah, I'm going to stick with this.
36:24Oh, that's fantastic.
36:24Something, I got it.
36:25Isn't it amazing?
36:26I mean, it is a reminder
36:28that it helps to try things
36:29you're not good at,
36:30because then when you do
36:31the one that clicks,
36:32you're like,
36:32oh, this is different.
36:33That's what it's about.
36:34That's why I'm doing,
36:36directing movies.
36:38All right,
36:39so we talked about Bruno.
36:40I reached out.
36:41Dr. Dre reached out.
36:43What was that first
36:45interaction like?
36:45Dr. Dre,
36:46that was like the final boss,
36:48because I'm from Oxnard,
36:49California.
36:50I'm from the West Coast.
36:50There you go.
36:51There you go.
36:51I came up on Dre and Snoop,
36:53and by the time I got the call,
36:55I didn't think
36:55it was really going to happen.
36:57And honestly,
36:57I didn't show,
36:58I wasn't going to show up.
36:59I was like,
37:00you know what?
37:00I'm doing my own thing.
37:01Detox is never going to come out.
37:03I'm just going to pass on it.
37:04And my manager was like,
37:05please show up.
37:05And I showed up,
37:06and the first person I meet
37:07was Dre,
37:08and he was like,
37:09what's up, AP?
37:11Heard about you.
37:12It's gangster.
37:13Yeah.
37:14And then he left,
37:15and they ushered me in the studio,
37:17and I met these two writers,
37:18and King Mez and JT were like,
37:20we love your song, Suede.
37:21And I had a song out
37:22that was bubbling at the time,
37:23and I was like,
37:24cool, man.
37:25Well, let's make something.
37:25And they were like,
37:26first we want Dre to hear your song,
37:27and I was like,
37:28he hasn't heard it yet?
37:30And they were like,
37:32nah, we're going to bring him in here
37:33and put you on the spot.
37:34And I was like,
37:34well, look,
37:35maybe we should make something new.
37:36I don't want to get kicked out.
37:37And they brought him in, man,
37:39and they put the music on,
37:40and I didn't know where to look.
37:41I just looked at the floor.
37:42I was going to say,
37:43like, that would be so stressful.
37:44Yeah.
37:45When you make music,
37:46one of the great things,
37:47I would imagine,
37:48is people listen to it
37:49without you being in the room.
37:50Right, right.
37:51Yeah.
37:52And you don't have to watch people
37:53listen to your music.
37:55Some people like to play their music
37:56and stare you in the eye
37:57as they play it,
37:58and you're just like...
38:01Sounds great, bro.
38:02So could you tell right away?
38:03Well, I was looking at the floor.
38:05Like, I was looking at his shoes.
38:06That's where I realized,
38:07like, Dre wears the same shoes every day.
38:10White Air Forces.
38:11And he was tapping his foot,
38:13you know,
38:13and then he's cranking up the music,
38:15and I look up,
38:15and he was just like,
38:16yeah.
38:17Oh, man.
38:17If Dre gives you this...
38:19Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:21That's really good.
38:22Your life's going to change.
38:23And so, yeah.
38:24And then you got to perform at...
38:27You know,
38:27we were talking about halftime shows.
38:29Also one of the best halftime shows.
38:30Wow.
38:31Yeah.
38:31I mean, Dre,
38:32you got to play drums there.
38:33Yeah.
38:34This is obviously...
38:35This is a celebration.
38:37Yeah.
38:38Celebration of L.A.
38:39Yeah, I got to play drums for Eminem.
38:41And, you know,
38:42Snoop was there, obviously, Dre.
38:44And you could hear...
38:46Is it true you overheard Snoop right beforehand?
38:47I could hear them in our ears,
38:49in our monitors,
38:50as we're getting on the field.
38:52It's like 30 seconds.
38:53I mean, that must be...
38:53I mean, again,
38:54you've done big shows,
38:55but that one,
38:56because it's just when it starts,
38:57you have no time.
38:58It's huge.
38:58I'm playing Lose Yourself for Eminem.
39:00Like, literally,
39:00like, the biggest moment
39:02of everyone's lives.
39:03And I'm hearing Snoop in my ear,
39:05and he's talking to Dre.
39:07And this is seconds
39:07before we go on the field,
39:08and he goes,
39:09hey, cuz,
39:10is it la-di-da-di-da
39:11or da-di-da-di-da?
39:14Five, four, three, two, one.
39:16Go! Go!
39:18And we're just like,
39:19oh, f***!
39:21My sticks, they're in the...
39:23Just go!
39:24Yeah, it was insane, man.
39:25That is, I mean,
39:26I mean, it's really,
39:27that is peak Snoop
39:28to hear him ask that question.
39:30And he's the coolest guy.
39:31It's just like, you know.
39:32Yeah, I like that he did,
39:33it does not sound like
39:34he was worried, either.
39:35He wasn't.
39:36I think he did a bar mitzvah,
39:37like, right after.
39:38Like, he was performing.
39:40Thanks, man.
39:41It is so great to have you here.
39:42Congrats on the film.
39:43Really great, man.
39:44You guys, you're great.
39:45And it's been Pat K-pop.
39:47She's in feed.
39:47It's February 27th.
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