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Evil Lives Here - Season 19 - Episode 10: Badge of Evil
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00:03that's my mother and Dave Rogers and at the Kern County Fair don't know what year
00:11a couple in love you know most painful right now just think about it she was so blinded by his
00:17love his affection his everything for her that she couldn't see anything else and even if she
00:23did see it she wouldn't let herself believe it I mean the man's a monster
00:42the bodies of a 20-year-old woman and a 15-year-old girl who both worked Union Avenue were
00:48found in
00:48the same Arvin Canal both killed with the same weapon but it was a bombshell when the killer
00:53turned out to be a sheriff's deputy David Keith Rogers mr. David Keith Rogers yep this is him
01:06typical picture of of evil policemen are supposed to be good people you know they're supposed to be
01:16that man cost me a lot right there cost my mom he cost a couple lives my mom passed away
01:22this man's
01:23still alive and he still has that smug look on it even though look where he's at as taxpayers we
01:30spend
01:30$70,000 a year to house this this killer here and that's evil
01:38you
02:18This is a photo album.
02:20My mom kept every article there was to deal with the case and stuff.
02:28And as you go through it, she kept a detailed record of all the police articles.
02:39And I guess it was to remind her, I don't know, I wouldn't have done that, but she just kept
02:45everything she could.
02:48My feelings at the time was, why torture yourself, you know?
02:52But she loved that man, no matter what.
02:59This is after he was arrested.
03:01I had been through three marriages.
03:05Mr. Rogers said, when those ended, I figured there ain't no man out there worth having.
03:10Then along came David and changed my mind.
03:14I never in my whole life had a man open car doors for me.
03:18I've never had anyone buy gifts for me for any reason, bring home flowers, hold my hand whenever you go,
03:23wherever you go, and wanted to be with you all the time.
03:28That's why everything was such a shock, she said, her voice trailing off.
03:32We always talked about things, and this other personality just wasn't there.
03:39I know it's hard for people to believe.
03:41It never surfaced in David, not in his job, not in his home life.
03:49That best describes the whole thing.
03:50It was the facade he was putting on.
03:52I mean, he was a very good person to her, you know, and, you know, she was quite happy, and
03:59she did never see it.
04:02So, that was her opinion of him, and she kept it till the end.
04:08She, she truly loved the man.
04:14But his true pillars finally came out.
04:44That is the wedding picture of them.
04:47From the time I met him till I got married was a short amount of time in my eyes.
04:51But my mom's happiness was, was the most important thing.
04:57It was everything.
04:58I mean, she brought me into this world.
05:00She deserved everything she could get.
05:02I was happy that he was going to make my mom happy.
05:04My father was a drunk, and he abused her a lot.
05:08And, you know, he's a cop, so that means he's a good character, supposedly.
05:18Like a wolf in sheep's clothing right there.
05:21He is.
05:33Bonding with David Rogers was a little hard.
05:36We were all staying over there at his house, and it was that, that macho thing, you know, it was
05:40his house and the whole thing.
05:41And, you know, he was alpha, you know, he just, dominant.
05:46He just projected, you know, you do as I say, and, and everything.
05:51And, you know, he was a typical .
05:54And then I, being a cop, kind of made me nervous.
05:57You know, just as a kid who's doing dumb things, and I was pretty much experimenting with drugs at the
06:02time.
06:03And, uh, it made me nervous, to say the least.
06:12He had a garden growing in the backyard, and some things to it.
06:16And, uh, I basically took over the garden, and then I, I was thinking that'd be the perfect time to,
06:21uh, sneak in a couple of pot plants.
06:24Because I had them hidden in between some tomato plants, and got away with it for quite a while.
06:30And then I came home one day, and it was in my bedroom, sitting on my bed.
06:38He found the plants, he pulled them, dirt and all, put them in the middle of my bed.
06:44I was waiting for the, the scolding that's going to come, or the lecture that's going to come behind it.
06:48And, uh, I, he could arrest me, you know, for that, if he wanted to.
06:54Because it was a felony at the time, and, and went to dinner, and sat down at the table, nothing
07:00was said.
07:01I kept staring at him, he was looking at me.
07:05But I think a lot was really said, without being said.
07:10It was his way of controlling me, making me squirm and enjoying it.
07:17The feeling was terrible, actually.
07:21And it, it, that went on for a while, just, every time I looked at him, always had that s**t
07:26eating grin.
07:30Man never said a word.
07:32Never.
07:33Not one word ever mentioned about it.
07:35Ever.
07:37It ate me up, did he try to hold something over me that he could use later on.
07:43But, yeah, that, that was definitely his way of showing that, you know, I'm the man, and, well, he was
07:49in control.
07:50And, and, after that, it was just downhill.
08:03I was the oldest of, of my friends.
08:05I had the only vehicle, and I couldn't make it home without being pulled over by a sheriff.
08:13Any time I saw a cop on the way on, I knew I was going to get pulled over.
08:16And, I'm sure he just said, well, let's give this kid a, you know, let's make him nervous or something
08:21like that.
08:22You know, I know he did.
08:24He'd get pulled over, like, nine different times in one night by sheriffs.
08:29You know he had something to do with that.
08:32He got old real fast after the second and third time, you know.
08:35I mean, we did nothing wrong.
08:37He was just messing with me, which really pissed me off.
08:41But, nothing I can do about it.
08:44Yeah, definitely, he, he was getting off on it completely.
08:48I mean, he always wanted control over everything.
08:51She also knew he had eyes everywhere, all over town.
08:55Yeah, he did.
08:56And, you know, it was going to make my life miserable.
09:08When my mom first met him, my mom had a house on Penny Street.
09:13It was supposed to be empty.
09:14The thing on my mind was a party house.
09:18There was, like, five of us in there just getting high.
09:20Next thing you know, there's door flies open and there's two policemen standing there.
09:28We were all surrounded, light shining on the house, and just the feeling of being trapped
09:32in a room like that.
09:33And then, in the back of my mind, am I going to be okay over this, or is it going
09:37to be
09:37bad, you know, how, how it's going to play out.
09:40And I had a hard time explaining to him, you know, Dave's my step back, you know, you
09:43need to call him, this is his house.
09:45Right at that instant, the door pops open.
09:51And he just walked up, stuck his head into the door and looked around, looked at me.
10:01But nothing was said.
10:03You know, he just, he gave me that look.
10:06Like, I can do this at any time.
10:10It's just, it's the way he did things.
10:12He just seemed to show up where we were at all the time.
10:15Like, this was back before tracking, back before cell phones, everything, but he just
10:18seemed to know where I was at all the time.
10:21And he'd show up, just, it's kind of weird.
10:25Now that I think about it, he always showed up.
10:28But Beckett probably was his way of trying to put his hand on top of me, knowing he squished
10:32me at any time.
10:48Yeah, they called it the Jeep Posse.
10:50They all had Jeeps or four-wheel drives, and they all did everything together.
10:55Brothers, basically.
10:57That's a typical picture of them.
11:00About every other weekend, Dave and my mom on the one end, and then,
11:05three of us partners and a wife there.
11:08It was mostly just a gathering of them, eating and drinking.
11:11That's what they do.
11:13And if the women wasn't involved, the bull**** started.
11:21The men would make a bonfire and sit around it, but I didn't want to be with them.
11:25So I just would lay back in the background where no one would see me and just listen and
11:29observe.
11:31And they're all just bull**** telling their stories and cleaning their weapons.
11:37Dave stood up.
11:38All of a sudden, like, it's my time, you know, then to tell his story.
11:44And he tells a story of how he had arrested a young man, and he said this guy was getting
11:50on his nerve.
11:51So he decided he would show him who's boss, and took him down to the river, and made him
11:58get out of the vehicle, and made him kneel by the river.
12:01He said, I put my gun to the back of his head, and then, like, you know, I can do
12:07this and
12:07get away with it.
12:13And, uh, I'm sure the guy was scared.
12:16You know, I'm sure he was.
12:18You have control of their life at the moment.
12:22I mean, I don't even want to think about it anymore, about that.
12:26It was kind of like him, when he just stared at me, he, you know, you give, he gives that
12:30person that thought of what could have been.
12:34So once again, it's that controlling factor.
12:35He is now in control.
12:37And then he put him back in the car, and, uh, and then he just took him to jail.
12:45And I was looking for someone to say something about it.
12:52Nothing.
12:54Which scared me, because he's a cop, you know, he's a cop, and they're supposed to protect
12:59people.
13:01I thought I knew that man.
13:03I didn't know he was doing all that.
13:06To that, to that, to that extreme.
13:17Akersfield wasn't like it is today.
13:20Back then, it was actually a small town.
13:24Dave Rogers had the prostitution beat.
13:28It was Union Avenue from 58 to, you know, all the way to 178.
13:35It was basically the bad part of town, you know.
13:40Because he requested for that beat, you know, there.
13:55He lent me the truck numerous, numerous times.
13:58And I would run across notes that had, you know, information on females.
14:05They're aging the whole thing.
14:10He would take a picture of him.
14:12I don't know why he did that.
14:15At the time, I was assuming it was part of his job.
14:18But now I know that wasn't, you know, it was leading into something worse.
14:25You know, no telling what was in his evil mind.
14:29If it was for sexual fantasies or anything, or because he wanted to do something later,
14:34or I don't know.
14:46Was it your idea to be a cop, or did Dave suggest it?
14:51Yeah, I can't really answer that.
14:53The sheriff's test came up.
14:56I would call that.
14:57And I don't know if he encouraged me to do that, or I jumped on it.
15:01You know, I just, the salary was good.
15:05And in a way, I guess I might want to impress him, you know, follow his footsteps or whatever.
15:09I really don't know my train of thought at the time, but it sounded like a good thing to do.
15:14I would hear him talk to Mom about the authority he had, and just his day, you know.
15:19He got this crud off the street, or he did this and that.
15:23And I wanted to be able to do that.
15:41If he pulled someone over, you're on probation or anything like that, and he'd do a search,
15:45he'd find a gun and drugs or something like that.
15:48He'd just look at the guy and say, well, what's this?
15:50And they'd go, what's what?
15:51You know, he goes, exactly.
15:53And he'd take the gun, he'd take the drugs.
15:55He took them home, that's what he did.
15:59And then he abused the women in a different way.
16:02God, these poor women, too.
16:05He pulled over a couple women that were intoxicated.
16:10He was going to take the driver to jail for DUI.
16:12And he ended up getting her phone number and was going to meet her later.
16:20She didn't get in trouble.
16:21She drove away.
16:23When he came back to the car, he told me, you know, that's one of the perks of the job.
16:29And I was just so confused because he's telling me this, and he's supposed to be loving my mom
16:33and the whole world.
16:33But how can you love someone and do that?
16:37You think he was testing to see if you'd tell your mom?
16:41Yeah, it's crossed my mind a few times.
16:43But if he was, I'd pass because I never did.
16:47So why do you think you didn't tell your mom?
16:50I didn't want to hurt her.
16:52No, I didn't care about him.
16:54It was all about her, you know.
16:56She was in love with the man.
16:58He was a loving husband with her.
17:00The only time I ever saw a good day was when mom was around.
17:03When he wasn't with her, he was like a Jekyll and Hyde, you know.
17:08He was a whole different person when he wasn't around her or had anything to directly relate to her.
17:20There was this one time I was with him on a ride-along.
17:23He pulled over a good-looking woman, and he said, well, watch this.
17:30And, yeah, he got her to remove her top, and, you know, he fondled her breasts, and like it was
17:38nothing, like it was nothing.
17:41And then I felt guilty because maybe he did that just to show it to me, you know.
17:46Maybe he, if I wasn't there, maybe he wouldn't have done that.
17:48I don't know, it's just, this is hard.
17:52I just felt bad because of shame that she had to feel the way he acted and treated people.
17:59It's like he had no regard for me being there, that I'm witnessing this.
18:02Not that I was anything special, but I was his wife's son, so, you know, he didn't even act like
18:08he was worried that I would repeat it.
18:11I don't know if he was testing me, if I could keep a secret or, you know, join the brotherhood.
18:20I don't know, it makes me feel like I was a bad person, too.
18:29I didn't, I didn't do something about it when it happened, which I should have, and so I'm embarrassed about
18:35that part of it.
18:36And like, you know, I've tried to suppress the thoughts of it for so long.
18:42I just know as a, as a decent human being, you can't let people get away with stuff like that,
18:46you know.
18:46And I was in a position where I could have done something, and it just kept getting worse.
18:56I hate people not thinking good about me because I felt I was a good person, and there's just so
19:02many things I can't say.
19:03That, you know, he, he showed me the bad side of, of what he does.
19:09Um, how you get favors by just, um, abuse of power.
19:16He got away with it and just kept going and going and going.
19:19I didn't do nothing about it, and I should have.
19:23And, I just, I just don't know, I just, it comes back, I should have done something.
19:31Can I have a second, please?
19:32Yeah.
19:34Just for a second.
19:45Go ahead and cut.
19:58Sitting in, sitting in a car watching him do something doesn't mean you had something to do with that.
20:04He's a police officer.
20:08Yeah, but I was the one in position to do something about it.
20:13We all, we all have moments in our lives where we wish we could have spoken up and done something.
20:26And you don't need to be afraid of the truth.
20:29Hmm?
20:34Let's do what we do, right?
20:35Let's give it a shot.
20:36All right.
20:37All right.
20:44Sorry.
20:52God.
21:01I really don't know why he confided in me.
21:04It feels like it was something that happened slowly over time.
21:07It escalated to him confiding in me over certain things that make me, like, be part of him or bond
21:14with him or whatever.
21:17He dropped the tidbits of it, you know, little bits of information here and there during conversation.
21:23If you ever do something real bad, you don't leave evidence.
21:28You know, you use the weapon, you get rid of the weapon.
21:31You know, you chop it up, chop up the barrel so the serial number's gone.
21:35Get rid of it.
21:37Anything you wore, anything you drove, you know.
21:39If you keep your truck, you put new tires on it.
21:41No witness is the best witness for you, you know.
21:44And no evidence is the best, you know.
21:46So just, you do what you do.
21:49And back then there was a DNA, just snarking and stuff, so you didn't have to worry about that.
21:53He thought he was untouchable.
21:56There was plenty of little flags along the way.
22:00I don't know what I was thinking at the time.
22:13I just wanted to, if anything ever happened, I wanted documented proof that, you know, you can't tell a story
22:17unless you can prove it.
22:18Things I observed and witnessed.
22:22Everything.
22:23Anything I witnessed.
22:24Good and bad.
22:26Everything was bad.
22:28He found that, the journal too.
22:33I had left it out.
22:34I was just sitting on the couch and I wrote on the coffee table and just left it there.
22:40He picked it up, not knowing what it was, and opened it up.
22:44And he was about, he couldn't have been more than a few pages into it when I went in there
22:51and I said,
22:51Oh, what do you got in your hand?
22:53It was just a scary thing.
22:55Well, I walked in there and saw that.
22:56It was, it made me nervous that he was reading it.
23:01I kind of, I kind of like, I got caught.
23:05My game's up, you know.
23:09He goes, is this yours?
23:10And I'm like, yeah, that's mine.
23:12Sure, it seems like it's got a lot of information about me in it.
23:15I said, well, come on, Dave.
23:16What do you expect?
23:16You know, I got to remember things.
23:18You know, you told me to keep information.
23:21That's what you do.
23:22Because he had always, you know, cops have to write down and stuff so they can remember for the report.
23:26So I just write all this stuff down.
23:29I didn't write .
23:31But there wasn't any.
23:33He just threw it down on the coffee table and walked away.
23:42He wasn't happy.
23:43I saw the disappointment in him thinking that I would do something like that because I was supposed to be
23:49part of his family, you know.
23:51Like, are you going to use that against me or, you know, what?
23:53I don't know what he was thinking about it.
23:55It changed his opinion on me.
23:57It had to.
24:00I never talked to him about it.
24:02But after he had seen it and everything, I just quit gathering information.
24:06I think a little of that stopped me because of the fear of what could have happened.
24:12I was scared as hell.
24:15I still don't know today what happened to it.
24:17I probably did throw it away.
24:20I don't know.
24:22I feel guilty over it.
24:24I've always, I'll live with the fact that, you know, I could have maybe once probably said something.
24:30Why didn't I talk to somebody about it?
24:31Anybody, you know?
24:32I had no one to confide in.
24:34And I did nothing.
24:35I did nothing.
24:36And it ended up with two deaths.
24:38It makes me feel like .
24:50That's when I noticed he had a fixation on prostitutes.
24:54We would go driving down Union, which was his beat.
24:57And he would say, hook her.
25:00Hook her.
25:01Stay away from her.
25:02She's a cop.
25:04It was an obsession with him.
25:05And he, you know, he, I don't know.
25:09It's hard to explain.
25:13I think that you saw other stuff.
25:15And I'm curious what else you saw.
25:21That's what I saw.
25:22They're just things I'd rather not say.
25:26Well, it feels like, like, in a weird way, that you're protecting him a little bit.
25:34And protecting me.
25:44Okay, he, uh, he got me laid by prostitutes a few times.
25:56He, he hooked me up with some of the girls, free of cost, because of his power.
26:02Uh, I'm embarrassed about that.
26:07It was just, I mean, it's, it's, you know, I don't know if, if, to look back and just, to
26:18walk into a room with a stranger and then she's all over you.
26:22You know, and he had direct involvement in that.
26:26You know, he had something over them and he told them to do this.
26:32And, at the time I was just getting laid.
26:40I mean, and it's not normal.
26:42No, not normal at all.
26:44You know, I, I really, I really don't know to this day why, you know.
26:48I think in the way he was grooming me to, to let me know that when you become a cop,
26:52this is what you can get away with.
26:55Because people are afraid to say anything about it.
26:59Maybe that was his way of holding something over me, you know.
27:02And he was probably doing that, both of them.
27:04He was not only grooming me, he was having something over my head.
27:08Just in case.
27:09I was just so conflicted that, you know, I wanted to do good, but I knew there was something wrong
27:15with that man.
27:28There was a time there in Dave's career that a, a prostitute had made the accusation that he had done
27:38some pretty heinous things to her.
27:42He had picked her up at the Wienerschnitzel on Union in California, made her get in his car, drove her
27:49to Union Cemetery, made her get out of the car, undressed, and did numerous things to her, and then drove
28:00her back to the Wienerschnitzel and dropped her off.
28:05She went in and complained about it, and he got suspended during the investigation.
28:11That gave me the first notion that he may not be as good as he thought he was.
28:21What did he tell your mom when he got suspended?
28:25He denied it, you know, basically.
28:28But he let her believe that it was nothing, that it was all bullshit, and that, you know, everything will
28:32be fine.
28:33But I know he did it.
28:35You know, he told me he did it.
28:38Part of me made me wish that, you know, she'd find out and, and leave, and stuff like that.
28:44I'm almost 100% sure she suspected, but she loved the man, and, and she stayed by him.
29:02He asked me if I would help him do something.
29:05I said, yeah, I'll help you do anything.
29:06What?
29:07He said, I need to get rid of a few things.
29:08I said, okay.
29:09What's that?
29:10We went to the shed, and we pulled out two gunny sacks of, there had to be at least 40
29:15handguns in there, at least.
29:17There was a couple of shotguns.
29:24Maybe because the way he acquired them, he was afraid that they would come out to his house.
29:31I just tell he was in a rush, and we took them someplace and we dumped them in the water.
29:40They were in the deepest part of the river.
29:44I bet they're still there today.
29:50I was just trying to help the man, but I had that feeling like I'm doing something really wrong right
29:55here, right now.
30:11Then when court came, the lady did not show up to court, and nobody's hands or butts until they had
30:17no case.
30:19The feeling or the talk around was that, well, maybe he got rid of her.
30:24I don't know.
30:25She just didn't show up to testify.
30:31And that's all they had was her, you know, that's all they had was her.
30:35So he got his job back.
30:38But they took him straight to the jailhouse.
30:41That's where rookies go, you know, that's where you go in the beginning to earn your time to get out
30:47on the street.
30:50And that made him angry.
30:52And that's where it all went downhill.
30:56That's when the vaccination and everything got heated towards hookers because of what she did.
31:00I think he was mad because that one tried to take his life away from him or something.
31:04He's got some resentment.
31:06You know, he hated hookers after that.
31:09He hated all women except my mom.
31:13He just looked at women, looked at them all, yeah, like, you know, sluts, whores, you know, all the above.
31:22And he was going to make them pay one way or another.
31:44It was a normal day on February the 13th, a Friday, working down at the truck stop.
31:53When my neighbor from across the street called and told me, you know, Tony, there's at least a dozen cop
31:59cars at your mom's house, you know.
32:02And he said, Tony, what happened?
32:05And I said, I don't know.
32:06And I went and told my manager.
32:07I said, I got to go.
32:08I just hauled ass there.
32:10And I went in there.
32:11Mom, are you okay?
32:12You know, I was more concerned about her.
32:17I was just consoling her.
32:18And then, and it was so loud in there with all the officers talking.
32:22And so that's when I officially found out what his charges were for murder.
32:30Two counts of it.
32:34And they were all discussing, you know, who's trying to, who's setting him up?
32:37You know, who's trying to black, you know, none of them believed it.
32:40None of them believed it.
32:43Phone rang.
32:44I think I was the only one who heard it.
32:46So I went and I got it.
32:48And then I picked it up.
32:49And it was that message from the jailhouse saying, you have a call from, you know, Kern County.
32:54And I said, hello.
32:55And he goes, Tony, let me talk to your mom.
32:59She got the phone and everybody kind of quieted down a little bit.
33:03And, and then, and then it happened.
33:06I mean, she, she slid down in the chair.
33:09She turned white and she said, he confessed.
33:12She, she said he confessed.
33:22That was the beginning of the end.
33:24I mean, I'll never forget that moment in my life.
33:27I saw, I saw the light drain from my mother, you know, right then.
33:30Cause that was her everything.
33:32You know, everything.
33:34I lost my mom that day.
33:45Unfortunately, that's Janine Benatende and I think she was 21 years old.
33:50A young prostitute.
33:52I think he killed Janine probably early, early 86.
33:57She had been in the canal for quite a few days and it was unrecognizable.
34:03I mean, they, they had to go through fingerprints to get her, even though her hands were swollen.
34:08I guess somehow they got fingerprints off of her and they were able to match her up in the database.
34:13That's how they found out that was who she was.
34:16And they had no clue whatsoever, but she was shot six times.
34:21With the 38.
34:24He was even investigating part of the investigation team that was investigating for that.
34:31Investigating the, a murder he did, but nobody knew.
34:36Then I was wondering what, what was he in there, you know, to try to do something to cover it
34:40up, but he didn't need to.
34:42Cause they had nothing at all.
34:48I mean, he, he got away with the first one for a year and 11 days.
34:52They would have never busted him on that.
34:54They would have never found out.
34:56Ever.
34:57And the second one, Tracy Clark, same canal, same gun, you know, same everything.
35:03So the same gun was used in both murders?
35:06Yes, sir.
35:08Same gun, same ammunition.
35:18This picture is Tracy Clark.
35:22One of the, his second victim.
35:23I think she just got into town that night and he shot her once kicked her out
35:28of the truck drove away came back and then emptied the gun in her then when
35:34they got they did the ballistic then it was the same gun she's like 15 and a
35:39half years old and I think she was six weeks pregnant 15 and a half Wow I'm
36:18sorry for that
36:18is a thing too they were investigating the 11 unsolved murders that were related
36:26to homeless women or prostitutes or something like that they asked him a
36:32whole bunch of times about that he never denied anything he didn't say he didn't
36:35do anything but yeah he he did two that we know and no telling how many that
36:42could have been I don't know
36:57Rogers was tried and convicted of both murders and in 1988 his penalty phase of
37:03the trial began the time for jurors to decide if he should be sentenced to life
37:07without parole or death they chose death
37:18what do you want people to understand about how this all affected your mom that
37:24there's more than one victim in it and she loved that man no matter what and she
37:32stayed by him she didn't believe it at all no matter how hard I tried to convince
37:35her to the point where I said bad things and uh none of her work
37:43that's love
37:46she was in love with the man I don't understand I tried to get her to stop but
37:50just wouldn't work
37:53you can't make someone stop loving
37:56my mom went approximately every three months once he got sentenced up there and
38:03finally got to San Quentin about the first five years it was every three months she'd go up there
38:08and spend the night but then it got expensive and she just couldn't she couldn't do it and
38:14her health started falling but I think I think the total was fourteen times she
38:20saw him before she had to stop she stayed home she didn't go nowhere she waited for
38:26phone calls she waited for letters and then to watch her suffer for the twelve
38:32years she suffered after that was is really painful I never even thought about forgiving
38:37him in fact I hate him more today than I did back then
38:51Morro Bay that was a picture of my mother and me
38:59she just she was happy she was a she loved going to the beach and loved going camping and
39:04uh I just called her over and took a picture and god she looked happy I would consider myself
39:15mama's boy I took care of her and she took care of me I miss that woman
39:24but that was in her time of happiness right there just waiting to be shattered
39:38I mean I wrote him a letter there after my mom passed away I poured my heart into it
39:48and told him how I felt and how I had to take care of how she she suffered so much
39:52and I just
39:53wanted the man to know exactly what she went through you know and that he was directly responsible
39:59for putting her through it and he responded with your mom was a nice person that's all I got that's
40:08the one and only letter I ever got from him that's all he said I don't know what I was
40:14expecting I
40:15know it just it hurt so much I lost everything absolutely everything I lost my home I lost my
40:25pursuit of a law enforcement career after he was arrested they didn't want me my mom lost a lot
40:33too so you know let's say you're sorry if anything else he never did that and for him just to
40:40respond
40:40like that you know it was the final nail in the coffin I don't give a what happens to him
40:46now you
40:46know he should have died a long time ago
41:04it's not right I didn't deserve it she didn't deserve it the two girls families didn't deserve it and I
41:12didn't even think about any of this stuff until just you know I tried to block it all out and
41:16when
41:17my mom passed away I thought I was done with that you know that part of my life is gone
41:21and stuff like
41:22that but guess what it'll never leave it'll never leave
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