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00:11Hello and welcome to your first one show of the week, live on BBC One and iPlayer with JB Gill.
00:17And Roman Kemp. Now, the three-day weekend is almost over for many, but tonight we are keeping the bank
00:23holiday feeling alive with three guests who never fail to bring the laughs.
00:27Yeah, we'll be joined by two of the stars of the hit comedy Amanda Land, Philippa Dunn and Samuel Anderson,
00:33a.k.a. Amanda's long-suffering friends Anne and Mal.
00:36They'll be revealing what's in store for the Motherland spin-off, which returns to BBC One on Wednesday.
00:42Yes, and joining them is Father Ted's star and best-selling author Ardell O'Hanlon, as he tells us about
00:48his new murder mystery novel.
00:50And while working on Death in Paradise, inspired him to bring cosy crime to the page.
00:54Yeah, also coming up in the week, the BBC is celebrating Sir David Attenborough's 100th birthday.
00:59We'll be giving you a preview of a special film that we'll be showing on Thursday, as we join David's
01:04former cubs and scouts group as they mark his centenary year.
01:08How incredible. And later we'll take a closer look at a species Sir David once described as one of the
01:13most intelligent in the ocean.
01:15As Lizzie Daly visits a centre of research in Plymouth, exploring the extraordinary mind of the cuttlefish.
01:20Yeah, very, very smart. And of course, we love hearing from you.
01:24So if you have a question for our guests or a comment about anything on tonight's show, please do get
01:29in touch on WhatsApp 033 0123 1700 or we're on socials and email.
01:34But first, with the recent news that the government is investing over £270 million to help make the UK shipping
01:40industry greener,
01:41we're starting tonight by visiting one of Scotland's largest ports that's already been making waves in sustainability.
01:49With more than 6,000 vessels passing through every year, Aberdeen is one of the UK's busiest ports.
01:56In fact, it handles around 40% of all Scotland's seagoing commercial traffic.
02:05The almost 900-year-old port has had to change with the times and it's just undergone a major sustainability
02:12upgrade.
02:14How cool is this?
02:15Benji Morrison is the harbour master.
02:18Dolphins just jumping in the harbour, outside your window, in your office.
02:23Number 7805, I'm a DVTS, that is all copy, thank you.
02:26We've had quite a busy morning. We've got quite a lot of vessels in. Just outside the window there, you
02:31can probably see quite a few oil and gas vessels.
02:35We've got some tankers in at the moment and we've also got the ferries in at the moment that run
02:40up to the Northern Isles for Orkney and Shetland.
02:44With the UK pushing towards net zero emissions, the environment is at the top of the agenda here.
02:51We have started to be proactive with what we're doing in the port of Aberdeen and we are future-proofing
02:57the port for sustainability.
03:03Historically, big ships docked in the port have had to burn fossil fuels to keep their systems working.
03:10But now, a new electrical system has been installed, which means docked ships can plug into the mains and switch
03:18off their diesel engines.
03:21Holly Allen is the innovation project manager.
03:24The port of Aberdeen have installed multiple shore power connection points across our North Harbour to allow vessels to plug
03:31in and connect to electricity when they come into port.
03:37The power is supplied by renewable energy, helping ships cut emissions by up to 80%.
03:44I'll see one.
03:48Running the ships on electricity also cuts noise pollution and improves air quality.
03:56Out of more than 50 berths at the port, only 10 are currently running on electricity, but the port has
04:03big plans.
04:05We've made a really good start with the shore power we have around North Harbour, but we're always looking to
04:09what area's next?
04:10Where can we expand to?
04:14Aberdeen isn't alone in its push for sustainability.
04:18Across the UK, ports like Leith, Montrose and Portsmouth are also moving towards electric berths.
04:28It's our ambition to create prosperity for generations and really leave the port in a better position than when we
04:35found it.
04:37So if we can make shore power a success, I think that would just be brilliant.
04:43I mean, how great to see the port of Aberdeen doing its bit for the planet, eh?
04:46There you go.
04:47Certainly a step in the right direction.
04:49Time now, though, to introduce tonight's guests.
04:51Please welcome stars of Amanda Land, Samuel Anderson and Philippa Dunn and comedian and author Adlai Handler.
04:56Yeah!
04:57Welcome.
04:59It's a little bit of a sitcom special that we've got going on tonight.
05:03I mean, we've got Father Ted, Gavin and Stacey, Philippa and Adlai.
05:07You both obviously appeared in Derry Girls as well.
05:10And Adlai, you say that show, that really kind of, you felt, put Northern Ireland on the map almost.
05:16Absolutely.
05:17People thought it wouldn't travel.
05:18Mm, yeah, yeah.
05:19Didn't even think it would travel as far as Southern Ireland, like, or never mind the UK,
05:23but it's huge in America and everywhere.
05:26And Australia, and Australia never mind.
05:27Were they mentioning it on The Simpsons?
05:28Did I hear that right?
05:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:29They've got a reference on The Simpsons.
05:31Yeah, yeah, there you go.
05:32No, it's not my season.
05:33Yeah.
05:34Or my character.
05:35I mean, I think I was in two episodes.
05:37I played a cousin, Aime, and a cousin of one of the parents.
05:43And we were never in scenes together, which is a shame.
05:46No, no, no, no.
05:46No, I know.
05:47I used to just see your picture on the wall and be like,
05:48one day maybe I'll get to work with Arden.
05:51And now here we are.
05:52Yes, indeed.
05:53On the sofa, on the one show.
05:55Well, Philippa, you say Derry Girls is such,
05:58or we know Derry Girls is such a love show.
06:00What was it like being part of a comedy series
06:02that had such a massive impact?
06:03It was really nice.
06:05I remember, like, just being so delighted I got that job
06:08because everyone was lovely.
06:10And you got to go to Belfast, which is so cool.
06:13And then I remember we were getting ready to shoot series three
06:16and being in my trailer and just hearing all these kids behind a hedge going,
06:21come out, come out.
06:23Can we have a look?
06:24And we weren't allowed to go out.
06:26But they were so pumped-like.
06:27So, yeah, there was always this thrill around.
06:29It was really cool.
06:30Fantastic.
06:31Well, Philippa and Samuel are here bringing us plenty more laughs
06:35in the brand new series of Amanda Land,
06:38the hit comedy, which is a spin-off, of course,
06:39from the BAFTA-winning Motherland.
06:41Yes, it follows Amanda, played by Lucy Punch,
06:43and her neighbours and friends
06:45as they navigate the highs and lows of parenting teenagers,
06:48from first kisses to friendship fallouts.
06:50And that's just the parents.
06:52Please welcome Amanda Hughes.
06:54You've probably seen my content
06:56and assumed it's another shallow lifestyle brand.
06:59I've just smashed 7K, so you'll have to excuse my appearance.
07:04I'm actually reading 1984 at the moment.
07:06I recommend Handmaid's Tale.
07:07Love anything handmade.
07:08I use social media to touch people.
07:10You post a picture of yourself eating cakes,
07:12and that's a job.
07:13We're about connecting with people on a human level.
07:16You can't just confront someone like Amanda with reality.
07:19I am enraged.
07:20Did someone just guess your real age?
07:21She came, she saw, she gentrified.
07:28Philippa, we've known Anne, your character,
07:31Amanda's long-standing friend from, of course, Motherland as well,
07:34but in the last series of Amanda Land,
07:36she was saving her from her relationship.
07:38Yes.
07:39So where do we find the pair now?
07:41Ooh, it's kind of like they're back to scratch.
07:43It's like nothing happened.
07:44When we start series two, we're just in Soha doing the usual.
07:47Amanda is still trying to grow her Senuous brand.
07:51The parents are still going to football matches and practice and stuff.
07:55We've got our teenagers to kind of look after.
07:58And, yeah, it's just the same thing, but on repeat.
08:02Yeah.
08:04It is brilliant.
08:06Now, Samuel, you play Amanda's neighbour, Mal.
08:09Now, there was a hint of romance in the last series.
08:12They didn't get off to the best of starts, though.
08:14So can we see that romance blossom maybe continue in the new series?
08:17You know, I think it's the longing that the audience has for this romance
08:23that is keeping this romance alive.
08:25I think that's the flame above it.
08:27I think give it some time and we'll see where it goes.
08:33He's being very ploy about it.
08:34He's being very ploy.
08:35Very ploy.
08:37Philippa, Amanda obviously still wants to be an influencer.
08:40We saw her there showing that she'd smashed a 7K.
08:43Yes.
08:44But Anne is about to maybe accidentally steal the thunder.
08:49Yeah, she goes viral by mistake.
08:51Yeah.
08:52Not on purpose.
08:55The series, she's kind of trying to teach Darius a couple of very important lessons,
09:00especially now that he's, like, deep into his teenage years.
09:04It's very funny.
09:06So, yeah.
09:07It's very funny.
09:09Accidentally and not on purpose.
09:10Right, accidentally and not on purpose.
09:12No, no, no.
09:12No, and she becomes famous for a few minutes.
09:15And, yeah, Amanda's not best pleased.
09:17But, you know, she didn't mean to do it.
09:19It just happened.
09:20Yeah.
09:20Amanda's still trying to get in the algorithm.
09:22Oh, for sure.
09:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:24Well, Samuel, I love the fact that you guys can still laugh about it.
09:27Because there were so many people who loved the show.
09:29The first series went down incredibly well.
09:31But also with a few of your friends who are parents.
09:34Tell us about that.
09:35My friends?
09:36Who are parents.
09:37Oh.
09:40I mean, I've been in the game about 20 years now and no one's ever been bothered.
09:44All my friends and girlfriends and partners have never, ever, ever asked about how I'm doing
09:48or what I'm doing.
09:49But since Amanda Lang come out, I'm a big...
09:52Big hit?
09:53Yeah, I'm a big hit amongst my friends' wives, the girlfriends, all of a sudden.
09:57Why do you think it's them, necessarily?
09:59Is it because they're seeing it, obviously, as parents watching the show?
10:03Yeah, exactly.
10:04Young parents and the fact that it's, you know, it's the show.
10:08Yeah.
10:09Everyone's talking about it in the office.
10:10It's the hat.
10:12It is the hat.
10:13And the shorts.
10:15Exactly.
10:16Yeah.
10:17But, Philippa, of course, you're joined by some new castmates for this series.
10:21But there is one castmate in particular who caused quite the stir on set.
10:26A four-legged friend.
10:27Yes.
10:28Let's say.
10:28Go on, tell me, who is it?
10:30Him amongst others.
10:31We had...
10:31Well, he plays Bobby.
10:33Yeah.
10:33I think his name was...
10:34Was his name Fire?
10:36Fire?
10:37I can't remember.
10:38It's a good name.
10:38Imagine your name being Fire and then you turn up and they go, you're Bobby now.
10:42Yeah.
10:43It's a bit of a step down.
10:45But, yeah, he was gorgeous.
10:46There's something about having a dog on set.
10:48They're just so calming and so chill out and...
10:50Yeah.
10:51So, one of the storylines is that Roshenda...
10:53Sorry, Fi, played by Roshenda.
10:55Yeah.
10:56She's trying her hand at a few new jobs, see how she can make her own money.
10:59So, she's so reliant on Della.
11:01So, that's where the dogs come into it.
11:03And I'm not saying anymore.
11:04Was it one of those...
11:04They're still the scenes, aren't they?
11:05Yeah.
11:06They're still the scenes.
11:06Yeah.
11:07I was going to say, was it one of those things when you're going through the script,
11:09you're going, is this one with the dog?
11:11Yeah.
11:11Is it with the dogs?
11:12Well, I just thought, from reading it first, it's like, no, those dogs will go by the third
11:15draft.
11:16They'll realise, no, dogs are just not the easiest.
11:19No, but these dogs were gorgeous.
11:21They were just so good and so calm and, like, really nice.
11:23Yeah.
11:24Fantastic.
11:24Well, we've got a comment coming for you, Samuel, from Maria, which says, loved watching Samuel
11:29in The Walsh Sisters.
11:31And a bit like Philippa and Ardell, you've got Irish roots, haven't you?
11:34So, filming in Dublin for that show was really special.
11:37I do.
11:38I mean, you say it's a comedy theme.
11:39It's an Irish theme.
11:40Yes.
11:41Yeah, of course.
11:42Yeah, I have, what was the question?
11:44Sorry, I have roots in Dublin.
11:45Yeah, no, so you've got roots in Dublin, so filming that in Dublin was really special
11:48for you.
11:48Oh, my God, it was incredible.
11:51It was, it was, it was like a return to home I didn't know I needed.
11:55Yeah.
11:56Yeah, it's a beautiful place, incredible people.
11:58And I was, I have to say, it was like a culture shock.
12:02I didn't know how different the Irish were to the rest of the world and how similar they
12:07were to the Jamaicans.
12:08I'm half Jamaican too.
12:09Yeah.
12:09I heard this too and it's like, it's true, you know, bit of similar.
12:17Samuel, we can't have you on without mentioning Gavin and Stacey.
12:20Have to, because obviously you played one of the lads on the Stag Do.
12:22One of the BBC hits.
12:24Like, what a Stag Do it is, I mean, look at this, there you are in your Hammers gear.
12:28But, what's so great.
12:29I got cursed out for wearing that Hammers shirt by my villa friends.
12:32But your, your relationship obviously with, with James Corden, longstanding friends, and
12:36you remember seeing the show kind of first hand being created.
12:40Yeah.
12:40We were actually in, on tour when he was writing it, we were in New York.
12:46And funnily enough, one of the weeks my parents came over to visit, we all, we were
12:50hanging out and James wasn't there.
12:52I remember my dad saying, where, where's James?
12:55It was like, oh, he's writing a show.
12:57Like, Ruth was over and they were huddled away, right in Gavin and Stacey.
13:01Wow.
13:02In its little genesis.
13:03Right at the beginning.
13:04Right at the beginning.
13:06And it was just a hope and a dream for him.
13:07Like, imagine if we can get this off the ground.
13:10Imagine if we can get these people to do the song.
13:12Imagine.
13:12Yeah.
13:13And all of a sudden it's, you know, the biggest thing in.
13:16Phenomenon.
13:16Yeah, the last three years, yeah.
13:18Well, you can see Samuel and Philippa in Amanda Land, which starts on when you're
13:22Wednesday at nine o'clock on BBC One.
13:24And you can find all of Series One available, of course, to watch on iPlayer.
13:28Still to come tonight, Ardell tells us how locals in his home county, Monaghan, helped bring
13:32his new crime novel to life.
13:34But first, all week the BBC is marking 100 years of Sir David Attenborough.
13:39And our next film tonight is shining a light on a fascinating species he's brought to our
13:43screens on many occasions.
13:44Yes.
13:45And now Lizzie Daly has been exploring the powerful mind of the cuttlefish as she heads
13:49to Plymouth to discover how new research is helping us better understand one of the most
13:53intelligent creatures in the sea.
13:57Common cuttlefish have been in our oceans for 500 million years.
14:02But rarely do we get to see them.
14:05For most people, the closest encounter they'll have with the cuttlefish is when these cuttle
14:10bones, which are that internal shell, wash up on beaches around the UK.
14:15In the sea, they are true chameleons, able to change colour in a blink of an eye.
14:21It's an adaptation that keeps them hidden from both predator and prey.
14:26I was lucky enough to capture this cuttlefish on film, moving gracefully through the kelp
14:32off the Cornish coast.
14:35I find them endlessly fascinating.
14:38And I'm not alone.
14:40Scientists at the Marine Biological Association in Plymouth have been studying their behaviour
14:46for decades.
14:47Now, they're turning their attention to the inner workings of their minds.
14:53Joe Fisi-Kemp is the aquarium technician.
14:56Currently, we've got about 50 cuttlefish on site.
14:59They're all from the same group there, so they're all about eight months old at the
15:03moment.
15:03So what are some of the surprising things that you've learned by studying cuttlefish here?
15:08Their ability to change the colour and texture of their skin, how they do that.
15:12Cuttlefish can blend into their surroundings by using their brains to control thousands of
15:18tiny colour-shifting skin cells called chromatophores.
15:22And it's just one of the tricks they pick up early in their short two-year life.
15:28They do recognise individuals, they're curious, they're always interested in what's going
15:32on and they learn so quickly.
15:34Really intelligent.
15:34They don't get enough credit.
15:36Yeah.
15:37To understand just how clever cuttlefish are, they've teamed up with researchers from the
15:42University of Cambridge to explore their eagerness to learn.
15:46Dr. Victor Adjuwon is the lead researcher.
15:50What we're trying to look at at the moment is we're trying to test whether they're curious,
15:54whether they're interested in gaining information for its own sake.
15:57For humans, we obviously think of ourselves as very intelligent animals and something that's
16:02really important aspect of that is our curiosity.
16:04And why is that so important to understand?
16:06The more we test other animals that look very different to us or behave very different to
16:11us, like the cephalopods, the more we realise actually there is a lot that we have in common
16:15with them.
16:16So better characterising intelligence can actually have knock-on impacts for the way we think
16:20about their welfare and also conservation.
16:23In Victor's specially designed test tank, Apricot, a female cuttlefish, will face a curiosity
16:30challenge.
16:31Oh, there she is.
16:33There she is.
16:34So what will we see now?
16:35A light can come on on either one of these two zones.
16:39To get a reward, Apricot is going to need to swim round to that side, be detected by the
16:44programme, and that will then cause the feeder to drop a reward to her.
16:47OK.
16:48The light at the bottom of the tank is now on.
16:52Apricot's now moving.
16:54Oh, yes!
16:55By doing so, she triggers a food reward.
16:58Oh!
17:00Look at that!
17:01Yeah, that is really nice.
17:02So that is exactly what you want to see, the light on, food in, reward.
17:06They know what to do, yeah.
17:08Victor switches the light to the other side of the tank to see if it piques Apricot's
17:14interest.
17:15All right.
17:16It looks like she's seen it and is going to start to creep over there.
17:20So she's already made that association because she's moving.
17:22Oh, there's the food.
17:23And there's the food.
17:24Yeah.
17:25She's got it.
17:27Even without her food and that reinforcement, she'd already moved to that side.
17:31Yeah, yeah.
17:31So that's the kind of thing you're looking for.
17:32That's exactly what we want to see.
17:34This curiosity makes them more willing to explore in the wild, boosting their chances
17:40of finding food.
17:41The number one priority for a cuttlefish that needs to grow fast.
17:46It's so easy to underestimate just how clever cuttlefish are.
17:51But when you see them making complex decisions, suddenly you appreciate just how intelligent
17:56they need to be to survive and thrive out there.
18:03So smart, isn't it?
18:04I mean, fascinating to see how their mind works.
18:06Thank you so much to Lizzie for that.
18:08And talking of incredible wildlife, as we mentioned all this week, the BBC is celebrating
18:13Sir David Attenborough's 100th birthday with some fantastic programs available to watch
18:18on iPlayer.
18:18From the making of Life on Earth to his latest series, Secret Garden.
18:22Yes.
18:23And on Friday at 8.30pm on BBC One, you'll be able to watch David Attenborough's 100 Years
18:28on Planet Earth, a star-studded live event taking place at London's Royal Albert Hall,
18:33which will honour his groundbreaking career.
18:36Yeah.
18:36And two people who will be at the heart of all the action are broadcasters Chris Packham
18:40and Liz Bonin.
18:41And they'll be on our sofa on Thursday to tell us more about the celebrations.
18:45Plus, we'll have a heartwarming film where we actually meet Sir David's former Cubs and Scouts
18:50Scouts group as they mark his 100th birthday in a very special way.
18:54Here is a little preview.
18:56They kept a record of badges both in the Cubs and in the Scouts.
19:02David did his naturalist badge.
19:0486 years after he achieved his badge, the Cubs and Scouts are hard at work to earning theirs.
19:11If you don't really know that much about wildlife, it's really, really good to watch stuff like that.
19:17I just really like nature.
19:19And he's my role model.
19:21These saplings are just the start.
19:24Soon, thousands will be planted here, creating an important woodland habitat.
19:29This is wonderful.
19:30So many young people here to inspire the next generation.
19:33It's definitely a nice legacy for David on his birthday.
19:40Honestly, so incredible seeing the next generation being inspired by Sir David.
19:44And you can see more of that film on Thursday's One Show.
19:47And from Attenborough to Agatha Christie now, because Ardell here is bringing us a brand new murder mystery novel.
19:54Now, Ardell, you've always been fascinated by whodunits from a very early age, haven't you?
19:58Yeah, I was reading Agatha Christie at the age of seven or eight.
20:01I used to read the local newspaper and the first page I would go to would be the court reports.
20:05Of course.
20:06Obviously.
20:07As you do.
20:08Yeah.
20:09Fascinated by that, by violence and murder.
20:10Yeah.
20:11From a very early age.
20:12Read all of Sherlock Holmes, all of that kind of stuff.
20:14Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew.
20:16So I've always been interested in it.
20:18And then, of course, I did Death in Paradise.
20:21I solved 25 murders over the course of a few years.
20:26So I was very familiar with the genre.
20:28And I suppose it was when I was kind of doing that that I possibly had the idea for us
20:32to write a proper detective novel.
20:34I'd written two novels previously, but there were more general fiction, I suppose.
20:38One was a coming of age one.
20:40And so I really wanted to turn my hand to an ingenious murder mystery.
20:45Yeah.
20:46And I have this gardener, this fellow called Finn O'Leary, who's a celebrity gardener in England.
20:50And he comes back to his hometown and he gets involved in solving murders.
20:55Yeah.
20:55I was going to say, so this is all, you know, all within his hometown that he goes back to.
21:00Yeah.
21:00He's moving back with his mum, right?
21:02That's right.
21:03So he's at a bit of a loose end in his life.
21:05Yeah.
21:05Marriage is not great.
21:06His career is maybe stagnating a little bit.
21:09He's very uncomfortable with his modest amount of fame.
21:13Right.
21:13And his mother's not well.
21:14She's had an accident.
21:15So he comes back to help with her care.
21:18And very early in the novel, he brings her to choir practice and somebody drops dead during what the world
21:24needs now.
21:25Gosh.
21:27We shouldn't laugh, but I get the irony, yes.
21:30As they do.
21:30As they do.
21:32And he's reluctant.
21:34I mean, he wants time out.
21:35He wants to care for his mother.
21:36He wants to reconnect with his hometown.
21:38There's a big theme in the novel.
21:39Like, it's about home.
21:40What does home mean?
21:41Yeah.
21:41Family, community, all those lovely things, you know, and as well as him trying to deal with this notion of
21:47fame.
21:48But it is, I think it's a funny murder mystery, you know, with a lot of heart and a few
21:52thrills and even a tiny bit of romance.
21:55Like, I've changed as a person.
21:57Well, the plot does actually revolve around Tidy Towns competition, which is a very real thing.
22:03I see Philippa nodding.
22:04It's a very real thing in Ireland.
22:06And he spoke to locals to help you research.
22:07Well, I just can't stress to you how important Tidy Towns is.
22:11Every town and village, even city and Hamlet, like, you know, they're fanatical about Tidy Towns.
22:17There's this great sense of place and pride in your home, in your home place, as I'm sure there is
22:21in Britain.
22:22But it's not just about litter collection or planting or anything like that.
22:27It's about restoring old buildings.
22:29It's about biodiversity, promoting that.
22:33It's about inclusion, getting everyone involved, participation, you know, asylum seekers, schools, everyone's involved.
22:40So it's a binding force for communities.
22:42And there's fierce rivalries with neighbouring towns.
22:45So there's a lovely little subplot in this book where there's sabotage.
22:49It's a nice way to put it in.
22:50Ardo, obviously, you mentioned Death in Paradise.
22:53You played D.I. Jack Mooney, of course.
22:55And as you said, it was doing stuff like that that really inspired you to get onto this book.
23:00Yeah, it was.
23:01Like, I mean, so, you know, I did 24 episodes.
23:05It must have been, like, easily 30 murders.
23:08Like, I didn't even have to read the script.
23:09I knew who did it.
23:10But, you know, after a while.
23:12And when I was there, I was always thinking, like, I was always trying to drum up, dream up imaginative
23:18kind of murders.
23:19Like, you know, because with the best will in the world, like, I love the show.
23:22You were in it, Samuel, as well.
23:23I remember at one stage.
23:25And, like, you know, you would be thinking to yourself, have we not done this plot before?
23:31Yeah.
23:31You know, someone falling off a balcony again.
23:37But, so, you know, I was always trying to think of, like, you know, if I was writing an episode,
23:41what would be my murder?
23:42So, at that time, and my first thought, by the way, for a detective was, this will show my lack
23:48of imagination,
23:49it was an actor playing a detective on a detective show in the Caribbean when a real murder happens on
23:55the set.
23:56And he ends up investigating it.
23:58So, but I thought that was a bit too close to home.
24:00And, in fact, I think there was a show called Death Valley last year, which is kind of a similar
24:04idea.
24:04So, I'm glad I didn't pursue that idea.
24:06So, I thought, like, him being a gardener gives you that kind of degree of separation, I guess,
24:11where you can write from your own experience to some extent, but, you know, you have plausible deniability.
24:15Well, the good thing as well is that when you write something and it's successful, fans love it,
24:20then all of a sudden you're into a TV show slash film and you have certain actors in mind.
24:25And I understand, in particular, you have a question for Philippa.
24:29Yes.
24:31I mean, you know, there's no guarantee, obviously, that this will ever be made.
24:35But, Philippa, I mean, seriously.
24:40There is a character in this novel called Aoife.
24:43She's a leading character.
24:45She's a leading light in the Tidy Towns effort, actually.
24:47And she's an old friend of Finn's.
24:49I think you'd be perfect for the part.
24:50Yes, Ardell.
24:51Yes.
24:52Is that a yes?
24:53Oh, it's a yes.
24:55Yes.
24:55I might get the show over the line with the broadcaster.
25:00Didn't you just talk about another one that had a difficult marriage?
25:01It sounds like Mel.
25:02Like, can I get a job too?
25:04Yeah.
25:05We should all get one.
25:06Don't worry.
25:07Don't worry.
25:08I look after you as well.
25:09Don't worry.
25:10We'll find something.
25:11Yeah.
25:11Oh, fantastic.
25:12Well, Ardell's book, A Plot to Die For, is out on Thursday.
25:16Amazing.
25:16Yes.
25:17We've had so many wonderful comments.
25:18Jen has said, I love everything that Ardell has been in.
25:22But favourite show, of course, of his was My Hero.
25:26He's absolutely brilliant in that.
25:29Yeah.
25:29And one for Samuel and Philippa as well.
25:31Milo says, I'm such a big fan of Amanda Land and I cannot wait to see the new series.
25:36It's going to be amazing.
25:38Yes.
25:38Well, that is it for tonight.
25:41Thank you so much to all of our guests.
25:43Yeah.
25:43Tomorrow, Alex and I will be joined by comedian Jason Manford, West End star Marisha Wallace,
25:47plus Yellowstone actor Kelly Riley.
25:50Have a fantastic evening.
25:51Bye.
25:51See ya.
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