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MEEK joins us inside the Hard Rock Hotel New York to talk about the success of “Fabulous,” dealing with newfound fame, and connecting with Kesha for an upcoming tour.

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00:02what's up it's mike adam we are here at the hard rock hotel new york with me about to chop
00:08it up
00:08you got so much going on i love the song fabulous is fabulous how did you know did you know
00:14that
00:14was going to be the song like the minute you finished in the studio yeah i think we had a
00:19pretty good idea really it's always like when you make when you make something that excites you you
00:23know it's going to excite other people when they hear it so we were like jumping around on the
00:27couch in the studio yeah oh i love it do you feel like you already have another one waiting in
00:31the
00:31wing that could be equally as big if not the album's done it's so finished so are you did you
00:37feel that
00:38confident with the other songs were you like when you finished them you were like these are going to
00:43be huge as well every single song on that album every single one but you know i wrote like 300
00:48for
00:49it yeah and it's been whittled down to like 15 or something now yeah and like every single one is
00:57a huge single like fabulous because so many people say you know they're like oh you never know the
01:01you don't know the formula you don't know how people are going to take to this so i love that
01:05confidence that you were like you know what this is a smash this is a smash that you felt that
01:09great
01:09about those songs yeah i mean i make music for me yeah primarily right like if i think if you've
01:16got
01:16the ability to make a tune you're going to make something you want to listen to right so if i
01:21keep
01:21listening to something i've done over and over again and i'm singing along to it and i love it yeah
01:25i think
01:25other people will and i think that's like the thing you have to follow always as an artist is
01:30like trust what you love and then your people will love it too absolutely so all the other songs that
01:35you did for this album that didn't make the cut right uh can they be used moving forward or are
01:42you
01:42done with those those are you're scrapping those and no uh i would never been my babies no they
01:48definitely like they'll live in a folder and actually a couple of them have already
01:52gone to some other artists yeah um and then and some get revisited some get reworked others might
02:00just you know in like five years when music has shifted again a little bit maybe there'll be
02:04a diamond in there that's like oh my god this is you know exactly what's going on at the moment
02:08because i think you have to also think look about look at what people are listening to and digesting and
02:13look at what's going on in the world as well and and figure out you know what's right for this
02:18moment
02:19and and what's going on socially and politically as well and you know that's kind of the thing
02:24that's how you choose when something's right yeah yeah how does that work with um you know you said
02:30artists have taken a few of the songs already do you just like randomly blast them out to people or
02:35you're like oh this would be perfect for rihanna and you just send it off or how does that work
02:40i love i love that sentence this would be perfect for rihanna um said no whatever
02:49um yeah it gets pitched by my publishers okay so like they'll be like they'll come to me with a
02:56tune normally they have a little brain wave on someone or they'll get an email that's like oh x y
03:00or z is looking for songs for an album and they'll go oh meek's got that one i don't know
03:05if she's using
03:05it and then normally i'll get the the old whatsapp message and it'll go are you using this and i'll
03:10be like depends who's asking who's asking right because if it's something i love like also it's
03:16important to me if it's something i've written for myself that it lands with an artist that i think
03:21is going to authentically deliver the lyrics like a lot of my stuff is well every song i ever write
03:26is based off of like personal experience and things that like matter quite deeply to me
03:29so i wouldn't want somebody who i didn't think was like kind of aligned with
03:34my values absolutely to be singing my words it wouldn't feel right yeah right you have written
03:39for martin garrix uh rita or a bunch of people um is there anyone you can share that you wrote
03:46a song
03:46for that they took it on but it it never came out for whatever the reason oh my yeah things
03:52that like
03:52were meant to be oh my god so many is there anyone you could share without getting in trouble or
03:56not
03:56really yeah i mean i've done stuff for like i mean i've done stuff like chris brown um sigala
04:04david getter and they're just like in pending hell it's never gonna sit on hold i just did a bunch
04:10of
04:10stuff for christina aguilera oh wow that stuff's on hold there's some do a leap of things that are in
04:16the works and do you ever find out why they're just it just depends man it's like it's like my
04:22album
04:23right 300 songs down to 15 like i think the the process always with especially a major artist is
04:29like you do gather up this huge body of like consideration of work and then it you whittle
04:35it down you figure out all these different factors of like you know what's going on and
04:39and that's it and it doesn't ever mean i've had cuts come through that have been sat on hold for
04:45like
04:45five years yeah and i'll think that they've been released and like really sorry like let go off of
04:50what's being considered not released into the world and then suddenly i'll get an email five
04:54years later like oh this is gonna come out now i'm like what crazy so yeah it just um it
04:59really
04:59depends like so a song is never dead it's just waiting yeah yeah is there a line from fabulous
05:06that that you really liked but you just had too many other great lines so it didn't make the cut
05:12one you were really trying to work in there so many somewhere there is a there's a google docs
05:18i actually found it because my the label asked for the lyrics so like when it was going being
05:22injected on spotify and stuff and they were like have you got lyric doc and i didn't think to
05:26actually check it i just saw like fabulous lyrics and just sent it yeah yeah and they were like
05:30what's all this at the bottom and there's like they're like is a remix coming out it's like it's
05:36like honestly like a word a brain vomit list of lyrics right always and it we always me and my
05:42co-writer carobay we put like a underscore and then everything we don't use gets dumped at the
05:46bottom of the document so i sent this thing without thinking and there's all sorts of random
05:50stuff in there because there's so many good examples like this happened but i'm so fabulous
05:54there's so many good examples in there so i was wondering were you just rattling off like a ton
05:58of different things and some didn't make the cut a hundred percent one of the ones that definitely
06:02like was one of the earliest lyrics in the session and i was like this is a hundred percent in
06:07was the tax man took my money because it just like first of all i love any lyric that feels
06:12like
06:13it came from the 60s i'm obsessed okay i love lyrics that feel quite old school second of all
06:19i think we have enough songs about problems around heartbreak sure like it's such a relevant
06:24thing to be like i'm paying too much tax who isn't right you could be heartbroken over taxes
06:30yeah exactly so um yeah no there were so many things maybe i should just post it up on my
06:35insta
06:35at some point i know seriously absolutely i i love how things have popped off for you um you're
06:41you're feeling this newfound fame you've taken it to a new level have you uh have you switched up
06:46the phone number have you moved to a new flat like i feel like you're at that point are people
06:51still
06:51stalking you from your past or did you switch up the number and all that all right i'm gonna answer
06:55this in a couple of things first of all people absolutely stalk me from my past we've got a group
07:00chat called the sin bin oh which is when anybody reaches out okay suddenly decides i exist again
07:08what a coincidence right right they get they get a screenshot and they go straight in the sin bin
07:12and then me and my mom two of my best girl mates and a couple of gays we just sit
07:18in there and cackle
07:18over it basically so beware i love that um absolutely not have i moved on babes there is no money
07:26in what
07:27i'm doing yeah i am still living in my one bed brixton flat i am taking the tube i when
07:33i got to heathrow
07:35yeah yeah i flew in cattle class here by the way like economy yep yep yesterday and when i got
07:40to
07:40heathrow airport yesterday morning i had fans recognizing me in the airport i'm just milling
07:44around with my extensions hanging out i was like oh my god is that me i was like yes babes
07:49come on
07:49let's go to pret i literally was like this is the in between period come say hi to me we
07:55don't have
07:55security exactly oh man i love that i love the realness and would you call it cattle class
08:01cattle class yeah i'm done it is cattle isn't it it really is no one should force human beings to
08:07be wedged that close together that is so did you give yourself a um like a expiration date like if
08:15i get to this age and i'm not i'm not allowed to swear but yeah yeah fuck no so you
08:20were like i'm
08:21committed to this music industry what is it what is an expiration date on a human being exactly all
08:27right here's what here's what i'm thinking right yeah we all have goals right yeah so if if you start
08:34to think your your passion your dream or whatever you're pursuing is starting to impede on some other
08:41goals and we all look i mean time is the enemy right we're not outrunning that i think you get
08:47to
08:47a point where you're like all right i need to pivot because there's other things that i also you know
08:53i maybe want to start a family or whatever it may be you know what i mean so were you
08:59like i'm gonna
09:00pursue this till the day i die and i'm cool with that whatever else i might sacrifice along the way
09:05or were you thinking if i get to this point this age i may need to reconsider i swear to
09:13god
09:14if this wasn't happening now i'd be 85 on the street corner in brixton with an acoustic guitar
09:20and this is my personal thing right because i have never like particularly been somebody that
09:26like was desperate to have kids or yeah and also by the way like i'm not i'm pretty i'm younger
09:31than
09:31charlie xcx so even talking about having kids for me feels really bizarre but like and maybe i'll
09:36change my mind i don't know but this was all i was like literally one of those people that was
09:41born
09:41with a center goal sort of thing like even when i was at like little school i was like singing
09:47in the
09:47toilets and being bullied for it so like this was always the thing for me and i am very much
09:52of the
09:52opinion in everything you do in life that if you have a backup plan you're setting yourself up to fail
09:57you're already accepting what might happen if it maybe doesn't work but i genuinely think if you
10:05refuse to allow the thought that it might not work to even come into your head right it absolutely
10:10will happen yeah absolutely will happen like if you're the in charge of your destiny of your life
10:17of what you do and like if you make yourself a backup you're accepting the backup you know yeah
10:23that's my opinion about i love that and you know i feel like i hope pop gets to the point
10:28because i
10:29remember when with rap where it was you know it was only a young person's game and then you had
10:35people getting older like jay-z and look he's still rapping and it proves that if you're still making
10:41great music age doesn't matter and i feel like pop sometimes you know they they still aren't
10:50you know can i say something you know what i think is funny what is uh i have never ever
10:54had my age
10:55mentioned by anyone that didn't work in the music industry yes not a single fan not anyone at a show
11:02it's it's a it's a thing created by middle-aged white men in the industry to keep women where
11:08they're meant to be like and it's like madonna drop it's not a thing so in a way i kind
11:13of don't
11:14want to talk to you more about it because i feel like continuing to have this conversation
11:18is really allowing it to exist you know like i'm a person i make really good music i'm not 16
11:26who cares that's it the end i love it i love it so you're about to hit this tour right
11:33with kesha
11:34um tell me how that even came about and and if you've connected with her up to this point i
11:41we
11:41haven't talked it's kind of common actually like i'm and she might not even be running her insta
11:46she probably isn't i tend to find that like anyone with over like three million followers
11:50they're not really looking at those dms person yeah yeah um but they just reached out honestly
11:56like tick i used to hate tiktok and now i absolutely love it because it is like open so
12:01many doors for me yeah and and um yeah their team her team just reached out and were like we'd
12:07love
12:07to put me for this thing so um i've heard really great stuff about her and how she works and
12:12um i think
12:13the tour is going to be a lot of fun i'm very excited to meet her and i feel like
12:18she's in line with
12:19kind of what you stand for and how you're presenting yourself in the industry right
12:23yeah definitely i mean she look she's been through it you know and like she's had to fight
12:27battles i think we have that in common and um and not to mention the vast gay audience that she
12:35has
12:35yeah yeah there is gonna be a lot of gay people at those shows for sure which i absolutely love
12:41it's
12:41my favorite crowd um yeah i think we're gonna get on really well and and hopefully it'll be super fun
12:46do you have a favorite kesha song joy rides is has been like literally soundtrack to my last year
12:52i love it so much yeah i like that what's the one with um is it big frida the do
12:59you know the one i'm
12:59talking about sure what's the name of that one does anybody know the big frida well yes raising hell
13:05you have to listen to that one that one that one deserved to be a number one i will say
13:08that so
13:09that's the one i'm gonna put on your i'm gonna put it on in the car when i leave so
13:12um before we wrap
13:13up with with everything you're achieving right now and you're about to go on this tour like how
13:19are you protecting you and and your mental health and just you know staying positive and and healthy
13:26um i would say my band yeah i like my best friends so that's really fun and having them along
13:37for this
13:37journey with me has been super important the two girls that sing with me like one of them i've known
13:41for 13 years um i read a lot i read a lot of smut i love it any like dark
13:49romance novel i've always got
13:50tucked under my arm or in a bag so good um i have had to cut back on drinking which
13:55i am not super
13:56pleased about but i am appreciating the awareness i have without it um and honestly like it's not
14:04weirdly do you know what genuinely i feel like my mental health has improved for all of this i just
14:09feel like completely liberated and happy and proud of myself and like it's really nice people are like
14:16don't forget to stop and enjoy it i'm like what part of this would i not be enjoying i'm in
14:19new york
14:21right right right i just can't under like yeah i feel great and i'm trying that's the that's i would
14:27say the main thing is to not like i've got really bad adhd so when i get over excited i
14:31tend to like drink
14:32too much or like you know go crazy so i'm having to be careful about that but other than that
14:37it's
14:38not even a challenge it's so fun and like meeting all these different people all over the world is
14:43like who does this who ever gets to do this is it is it because is it a part of
14:48it because you feel
14:50like you know your music is finally getting the visibility you knew it it should be getting is that
14:56i think it's less about the music getting visibility i think it's more about it it reaching people that
15:02need to hear things like that you know like oh my like when i was a teenager if i'd had
15:06a song
15:07that was like yeah all of that stuff but i'm fabulous i'm gonna go out and wear whatever i
15:11want yeah you're like that sort of thing like and the dms i've been getting from people are insane
15:16like i frequent i'm a cancer and a cancer rising so like when somebody sends me a really emotional
15:22dm about their life i am literally like snot crying on my couch i cannot cope and that is rewarding
15:29enough like if nothing else ever happened that's incredible it's incredible i put out a record that
15:36has touched someone deeply yeah it's crazy actually i retract i want much more to happen but
15:42listen fate if you're listening scratch that one oh meek you are wonderful you're a great interviewee
15:50thank you so much congratulations on everything thank you for stopping by thanks so much
15:54thank you
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