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00:03Tonight it's part two of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion.
00:07What is a comb gutter? Andy has them.
00:09It's the two lines right here.
00:12Two lines.
00:13Oh, I didn't know what that meant either.
00:15I don't get child support anymore.
00:17Yeah, but I get my spousal support.
00:19So what are we talking about?
00:20We need to know how much that is.
00:21Do I marry and divorce him?
00:25I was witnessing him be this single guy right in front of me.
00:29What are you doing? I'm standing right here.
00:32It was awful.
00:34You couldn't show up to support me.
00:36No, I couldn't. I was very hurt.
00:38What were you very hurt by?
00:39Don't talk to me like that.
00:44You will not acknowledge when I said I've supported you with everything.
00:47You're talking about nine years ago.
00:49How about in the last two years?
00:51The past two years, but we haven't been friends.
00:53This is exactly it.
00:55Stop saying that we are friends.
01:03When in the hell did I tell you that I was losing money on my business?
01:08It's a charitable venture.
01:10Absolutely.
01:11And so, by the way, that is not failure.
01:13I didn't say it was a failure.
01:15Yes, you did.
01:16You said that my business was failing.
01:18I said it didn't go well because you told me you were losing money on it.
01:21You are promoting your businesses and setting up your margins so you can be rich as ****.
01:27Yeah.
01:28That is not my intention.
01:31Bose said Amanda walked away from a cult just to build one herself.
01:36Amanda, what was your response to that?
01:38I did say that.
01:38Well, so the thing about a cult is you lose your autonomy.
01:41You're controlled.
01:42You're isolated.
01:43You're encouraged not to think for yourself.
01:46Whereas my business is the polar opposite.
01:48I encourage women to think for themselves.
01:50To not do what they were told to do by their father, by their husband in church, whatever
01:55it was, and go for what they really want.
01:57That's a thin line.
01:57No, honey.
01:58That's a thin line.
01:59It's the thickest line in the world.
02:00Would you encourage women to think the same way about a concept of how they manage their
02:06energy with money?
02:07The idea that it's manifesting money is very small-minded.
02:11It's a tiny slice of the whole thing.
02:13But all you talk about is how to make money.
02:15Manifesting money.
02:16That's all you talk about all the time.
02:18And praise God for it.
02:19All of them are to help people.
02:20How old are we supposed to know what the business is about?
02:21All of them are to help women make money, yes.
02:24But it is not manifesting alone.
02:26Let me ask you this.
02:27Have you published your cult book yet?
02:29No, I just finished chapter six last week.
02:31Oh, you did chapter six?
02:32Did you name one after me?
02:33No.
02:33You are not in the book.
02:35Thank God.
02:36In Italy, Sutton had an issue with Dorit doing a deep dive on Amanda's history.
02:41But Sutton, a few years ago, you earned the nickname Fancy Drew for your tendency to dig
02:47deeply into other people's lives.
02:48Does that seem hypocritical?
02:50Which lives did I do a deep dive?
02:52Are you f***ing happy?
02:54The LA Times.
02:56Have you seen the latest?
02:58I did.
02:59Did you read the whole thing?
03:00I read the whole thing.
03:00Oh, you did?
03:01Please.
03:01Because we haven't had time to read it.
03:03It's so complicated.
03:05Yeah.
03:05Well, yeah.
03:05And that's what the whole article, it's just so long.
03:07If Erica's business is under her name and was accepting these funds, that's trouble.
03:12We were all asked to read the same article that morning.
03:16Can I say something?
03:17I didn't do any more diving than that.
03:19Do you remember when I came to your house, Sutton, and you were telling me how you did
03:23a deep dive on Amanda?
03:25No, I didn't.
03:25And you were going to sign up for her courses.
03:27I want to see how she has made this a business that makes money.
03:32So you are going to take Amanda's class?
03:34I just want to see how it works.
03:36I want to see what these people are signing up for.
03:38My expectation is to make $500,000 a month.
03:42What?
03:43I thought it would be funny to sign up for his course, but I did do a deep dive.
03:47You did a deep dive on everyone.
03:48Who?
03:49What?
03:49You're making that up.
03:51Come on.
03:51Don't get semantics.
03:51Am I also making up that you told me that Amanda took out a $2 million loan just before
03:55she started filming?
03:56Well, you did.
03:57You did?
03:58Never.
03:59That's a pretty big deep dive.
04:00Never.
04:01I didn't do that.
04:01Somebody gave me that information.
04:03Whatever.
04:04I would love to be able to take out a $2 million loan.
04:07Hi.
04:08This is my package.
04:09Hi.
04:09Guys, Amanda just said, excuse me, this is my package.
04:12She's like, it's my turn.
04:13Get back to me.
04:14What's a package?
04:16Amanda, what was your reaction to seeing Erica ask ChatGPT about you?
04:21I mean, it bothered me because I think we all know ChatGPT pulls from Reddit and we all
04:26have horrible things said about us on Reddit.
04:28Well, ChatGPT pulls from everything.
04:30Including, well, right now Reddit's one of the main ones.
04:32It's great for everything.
04:32And we all have bad things about us on Reddit.
04:34Bose, we know you looked up your own ChatGPT and got a very flattering read.
04:39Okay, who is Bose Missingshot to begin her marketing journey at Spike Lee's agency
04:43and joined PepsiCo in 2005, working on major campaigns with superstars like Beyonce.
04:48And I'm just making a comparison.
04:50When Amanda asked about you, ChatGPT brought up skepticism about your short tenures at major
04:56corporations.
04:57What was your response to that?
04:59Well, first of all, I was like, I don't know what kind of reviews she's reading.
05:04Because you seem to think that we said, oh, these are bad reviews of Amanda Francis.
05:08And that wasn't-
05:09That was not the same.
05:09That was not what was asked.
05:12Also, if anybody knows anything about being a chief marketing officer and you understand
05:17the tenure of chief marketing officers, they are short tenures.
05:20You go in for a specific mission, you complete the mission, and you move on.
05:25I don't have to list them all to you.
05:26The CMO job is-
05:27Is a short tenure job.
05:29It is?
05:30Yeah.
05:30It's not meant to be for a long period of time?
05:34It is intentioned to be a long time, but what happens is that a lot of times the blame
05:39of any company's failure or its, you know, issues with the stock falls on a CMO.
05:46I understand that, but let me tell you.
05:47I don't have a criticism over that.
05:48I was just reading it.
05:50Well, but you were reading it in a way to criticize me.
05:52Why are we saying anything to try to hurt anyone's business?
05:55Oh, well, you opened that door, didn't you?
05:57We should all be supporting each other's businesses.
06:00Why?
06:00What business did she not support?
06:02The book release.
06:03My only business venture that I've had in-
06:05I've gone to-
06:06Five years?
06:07Hold on, sorry.
06:08Book of the Beppo.
06:09Okay, I'm really excited.
06:10I designed and redid the entire room.
06:12This is fantastic.
06:15It looks amazing.
06:17Your bathing suit.
06:19That's very chic.
06:21I love that design of that top.
06:23Five years.
06:23You're tanning for you.
06:24I know you'd like to go back ten years, Kyle, but I'm actually staying within-
06:27History.
06:27Within this decade.
06:28It's called history, Dorit.
06:29And I'm talking about my first business venture in years.
06:35So don't sit here on your soapbox and say-
06:37You don't have the book out.
06:37It was a picture.
06:38It was a picture.
06:38It was a picture.
06:39We should all be supporting-
06:40Listen, you open that door.
06:42Okay, so I sent a text.
06:43Hi, I'm so sorry that I'm not going to make it tonight.
06:46I'm exhausted and overwhelmed and been up since 2am.
06:48That was a fact.
06:49I know we need to talk still and I hope that happens sometime soon.
06:52I know you RSVP'd yes to the wedding, so I hope to see you there.
06:56Good luck tonight.
06:57And you wrote, I get it.
06:58No worries.
06:59Thank you for the good luck wishes.
07:00Take care of yourself.
07:01We'll talk another time.
07:02And yes, I'll see you at the wedding.
07:03You were fine with that.
07:04You understood.
07:05Until, which is what bothered me when you had that interaction with Boz.
07:08Did she misread your tone in that text?
07:11Oh, yes.
07:13How about go, how about go back and look at that scene when Boz said to you Kyle should
07:16have been here and then you said, absolutely!
07:18Do you now still believe that she had good intentions when she was saying that she was
07:23concerned?
07:24I mean, the evidence is pointing to not really.
07:27Kyle didn't come.
07:28Sutton didn't come.
07:29Kyle, because she's tired and overwhelmed.
07:31You could come for 30 minutes.
07:32Well, hello.
07:33You could come say hello, give me a hug and at least wait to see the cover.
07:37When you sent me that text, do you want to know how I genuinely felt?
07:41Wow.
07:42Okay.
07:43You know what?
07:43So you're full of .
07:44So your text was not being genuine.
07:46No.
07:46That is called being polite.
07:49B, what am I supposed to say?
07:51I'm not going to beg anyone to come support me.
07:53Do you understand?
07:54I was not, oh, I totally understand.
07:57I was hurt.
07:58This was a big deal for me.
07:59You didn't see that you were about to say that and then all of a sudden you should
08:01be like, oh good, you have to make Kyle look like an asshole.
08:04I love it.
08:05Sometimes, and I do it all the time.
08:07I don't want to go.
08:08I'm too tired.
08:09I've got a lot going on.
08:10I still f***ing show up.
08:12I am sick and tired of you thinking you taking my relationship with either of these girls
08:19and it's you and it's you.
08:21I am so tired of hearing the jealousy seething out of your pores.
08:29Wait, tell us about what?
08:30You cannot help but take a swipe at my relationship.
08:33Why does it intimidate you so much?
08:34I've never taken a swipe at your relationship.
08:36You have.
08:36Every single chance.
08:37So.
08:38So, but how did she jump?
08:39Yeah.
08:39Explain.
08:39Okay.
08:40So, you suggesting that I'm influenced by Bose.
08:45That Bose somehow has wound me up.
08:47It's in your head.
08:48It's in your mind.
08:50You project so much.
08:52How did this get turned around?
08:53I did, you will not acknowledge when I said I've supported you with everything.
08:56I will talk about the past.
08:58I bet you you're going to go back ten years.
08:59No, I'm going to go back to our history.
09:00I bet you're going to go back.
09:01Our friendship.
09:01Oh, well, let's.
09:02Let's start.
09:02Just be quiet for one second, please.
09:04What about if.
09:04No, no, no, Kyle.
09:04I'm going to start with people saying you're fake and calling your father with a fake accent.
09:07I defended that.
09:08You know what you just enjoy right now?
09:09I'll tell you what you're enjoying.
09:10You're enjoying saying things right now to make me look back.
09:13You won't let me talk.
09:14Put Chloe and Lisa there to come.
09:15You're talking about nine years ago.
09:17What?
09:17I'm talking about.
09:18How about in the last two years?
09:19We're going to talk about the past two years when we haven't been friends.
09:22This is exactly it, Kyle, so stop saying that we are friends.
09:39Stop saying that we are friends.
09:41How are you going to base our friendship and say you haven't done this for me?
09:45You haven't shown up for even two years.
09:46I haven't said you haven't done this for me.
09:47Yes.
09:48Your words don't match your actions.
09:50That's it.
09:50No, I just told you my actions and you try to shoot them down and negate them.
09:53You're talking about ten years ago.
09:54We're just going to keep going around in a circle.
09:56Since the day you came onto the show, people were saying mean things.
09:59You always said I didn't have a good season.
10:01I never had a good season.
10:02Do you want me to go through?
10:02Be quiet for a minute.
10:03No, I'm not going to sit here and listen again.
10:04No, I'm going to say something.
10:06Can you shut her up, Randy?
10:07No.
10:09I'm going to say it.
10:09Exactly.
10:10No one's going to shut me up, Kyle.
10:11I defended you with a loosey, juicy apple goosey.
10:14I defended you with a burglary.
10:16Do not sit there and think you can look at two years and try to make me look like a
10:19bad person because that's all you tried to do.
10:21Are you trying to convince me, Kyle?
10:22Hold on.
10:23We are wrapping out of Amanda's segment right now and we're actually going to get-
10:27Poor Amanda.
10:28We weren't talking about Amanda.
10:29We will get back to this.
10:31I want to move on.
10:32Dorit, you took a lot of heat for how you responded to Amanda.
10:35At Rachel's party, Lily V. Love on Twitter said, what a horrible look for Dorit.
10:40No matter how you feel about Amanda, she just told you it's the anniversary of her son's
10:44death and you're still pushing a stupid argument with her.
10:47I just want to know, Amanda, what your take is on me discussing my divorce.
10:55Can I be really, really honest?
10:57Zion died three years ago today and I'm holding on by a thread.
11:05When you saw what she actually said, which was the topic of this whole conversation.
11:10Is her talking to everyone going to end up affecting the divorce in some kind of negative
11:14way?
11:15She did say, oh, he's a raging alcoholic and he didn't like that question.
11:20That's a strong phrase, yeah.
11:21But if it's true, well, still, maybe you shouldn't say it.
11:26What was your reaction?
11:28I think that she had an opinion about something that I don't think is fair for her to...
11:33Have an opinion about?
11:34Well, about that and quite frankly to not know me, to not know him.
11:39Okay.
11:39So when I watched it, I have to tell you I was relieved.
11:42I was just like concerned about this all summer that I had said something horrible and didn't
11:46remember it and then I saw it and it was just like I remembered it and I was like, I
11:49don't
11:49think I was sitting around talking bad about her harboring something against her or expressing
11:54some strong, strong opinion.
11:55But you did have an opinion.
11:56No.
11:56But you agreed with it and then you went and told her like you didn't agree with it.
11:58But you didn't own it once you...
11:59She had talked about it.
12:00That's exactly what I was just about to say.
12:03All you had to say is...
12:03You know what?
12:04This is my opinion.
12:05Yes, I didn't say.
12:06I didn't remember saying it and I was very confused.
12:08No, but you could have said, listen, if I said that I'm...
12:09Anyway, it dragged on because you just didn't want to...
12:13I think it dragged on because you wouldn't believe me that I didn't have any ill will against
12:15you and I wasn't harboring some huge opinion.
12:17But that was never the point.
12:17Am I right saying that?
12:21I think one thing that I just really struggled with at my house, as much as it was about
12:25what happened at the table, I actually had more of a problem with what happened before.
12:30Mmm.
12:30Which was when Dorit came in excited about her book.
12:34That's right.
12:35I just signed a book deal.
12:36Oh!
12:37Oh!
12:38Did you choose a co-author?
12:40I did.
12:40It's a mother-daughter duo.
12:42Oh.
12:42Like a...
12:43Like a ghost writer?
12:45I just sat down and wrote.
12:47Yes.
12:47I want to apologize for that.
12:49But you came in and you're like, you didn't write your book?
12:52Yeah.
12:52And it's like, oh, I just sat and wrote my book.
12:54You have to not one-up.
12:56It's not nice.
12:57It doesn't make you look better.
12:58I wasn't trying to one-up.
13:00I know that.
13:00And that's why I'm telling you.
13:02All right.
13:02We have to break for lunch.
13:04Before we close, Amanda, what would you say the biggest thing you learned this season
13:08about yourself?
13:09This...
13:10I'm just going to say it how it feels.
13:11This is not scary.
13:13Like, I actually like the hearts of all these women when I get to see more of who they are.
13:19I don't know.
13:20It took me a while to be able to, again, feel like myself in this group.
13:25All right.
13:26We're going to leave it there.
13:27That is lunch.
13:29One half hour.
13:30That is lunch.
13:30One half hour.
13:32Takes me 30 minutes to get to the dressing room.
13:42I'm so excited.
13:45I know.
13:46Are you right?
13:47It's a beautiful day for a ruffle, right?
13:49Right?
13:53Hello, Kathy.
13:54Hi.
13:55How are you?
13:56How are you?
13:56Can you take that one for me, please?
13:59Can I take it here, too?
14:01And...
14:02That...
14:03And that...
14:04And that...
14:04That's my lunch.
14:05That's two.
14:07That.
14:09That.
14:10That.
14:11That.
14:12Okay.
14:13I just want to make them.
14:15I will see you later on.
14:16Enjoy it.
14:19Oh, my God.
14:20Look at your dressing room.
14:21Is it your birthday?
14:23It's my birthday.
14:24Look at all the flowers.
14:26Is this your dress here?
14:27Silver?
14:28Gorgeous.
14:29Look at your necklace.
14:30You're not wearing any jewelry today.
14:31This is not my outfit.
14:35I'm looking at her thinking.
14:36You know, Jennifer, you are...
14:38You're like, she came so casually.
14:39Like, what is going on?
14:41She's wearing combat boots to her reunion.
14:43Something's going on.
14:44Right?
14:44Something's wrong.
14:47Coming up, is your staying on the show what led to your relationship breaking up?
14:55Chattery.
14:56I'm going to do this.
15:00Chattery.
15:01I'm going to do this.
15:01I can't walk.
15:02Unzip a little.
15:03Hi!
15:05Okay.
15:06Yes, that's good.
15:07It's important to be ambulatory.
15:09Chattery.
15:10Chattery.
15:10I love your hair.
15:12What are you?
15:13Come on.
15:14Jennifer.
15:15Chattery.
15:16Oh, my God.
15:21OK, and then help me sit in a way that I look attractive.
15:24I have to prop myself up.
15:25I need a slant board, really.
15:28Hi, Cathy.
15:29You girls look gorgeous.
15:30You look gorgeous.
15:31Hi, Cathy.
15:32Kyle, is my hair too curly?
15:33Maybe just one of your fingers on a tiny bit.
15:35She told me I looked like a country western singer.
15:37I was like, oh, God.
15:40What?
15:41Camera's rolling.
15:42Camera's rolling.
15:43Mm-hmm.
15:44I literally cannot lean forward in this.
15:46It's so great.
15:47To Andy in three, two.
15:50Welcome back to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion.
15:54Joining us are our irreplaceable friends, Jennifer Tilly and Cathy Hilton.
16:01Welcome, ladies.
16:03Yay!
16:04And Cathy Hilton, happy birthday.
16:09And it's Friday the 13th.
16:10Yes.
16:11Yes.
16:12Wow.
16:13It's a wonderful day.
16:14Jennifer Tilly, talk to me about this dress.
16:17This dress is actually, I can't stand up.
16:20It's Bowman.
16:21Oh, my God.
16:21And they made it for me.
16:22And this is my face on the front of it.
16:25I see that.
16:25So it's very glamorous, but it's actually a standing dress.
16:28It's not a sitting dress.
16:29Because then when I sit down, my face crumples up into something like, you know that thing at
16:34the end of the substance?
16:35You got your eye right on it.
16:37Yeah, it's kind of terrifying.
16:39So, Cathy, what was your fashion inspiration today?
16:42Well, I had a little problem.
16:44I went on the Jell-O diet.
16:46Oh.
16:47What?
16:48Oh, what's the Jell-O diet?
16:49There's a new Jell-O diet that Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Kelly Clarkson with vinegar
16:55and baking soda.
16:57What?
16:57What?
16:57It has messed up my whole entire system.
17:00I was so bloated I could not fit into anything.
17:03Oh, you were bloated from the diet?
17:04Sorry.
17:05The first day I lost two pounds and then they're lying to me.
17:09It was all AI.
17:11You did an AI.
17:12She did an AI Jell-O diet.
17:14Hold on.
17:15It was like AI versions of Oprah saying I do this Jell-O diet?
17:20And they have Dr. Oz doing it, too.
17:22Oh, well, I mean, one of the great minds.
17:24Kathy, I loved your erotic fantasy about David.
17:29Oh, my God.
17:29Yes.
17:30Oh, look at David.
17:31Ah!
17:32Notice the cum gutters.
17:34Did you see his hands and his feet?
17:36The size?
17:37Wow.
17:38Nice stroll on the bridge with David.
17:40Feeling the breeze of the water trickling down your thighs.
17:45Kathy, any other works of art you want to take a special stroll with?
17:48Uh, Mr. Pontevecchio.
17:53Pontevecchio.
17:54Pontevecchio.
17:55Yeah.
17:55I love Pontevecchio.
17:56Pontevecchio.
17:57What is a cum gutter?
17:59Andy has them.
18:00It's the two lines right here.
18:02Two lines.
18:03Oh, I didn't know what that meant either.
18:05Okay.
18:06Well, then let's get into it.
18:07As our longest-running consecutive housewife across all franchises, we've seen a sea change
18:14in Kyle Richards over the last 15 seasons.
18:17From her kids leaving the nest, to Mauricio getting his own place, to Kyle finding love
18:23after Mo.
18:24And whether Kyle goes Brad or Angelina in the future, I think we can all agree she probably
18:30shouldn't go to Amanda's house anytime soon.
18:34Take a look.
18:35Hello.
18:36Hi.
18:37How are you?
18:37Oh, this is nice.
18:39This is your first time in the house.
18:39Oh, wow.
18:40This is beautiful.
18:41Mo went from his place at the high-rise to leasing this house without me even knowing.
18:47I think that says a lot.
18:48Dad and I are both walking in with you?
18:51Yeah, you're gonna walk me down.
18:52That's so crazy.
18:54It does feel strange that my daughter, our daughter, is getting married.
18:58I'm a sparrow.
18:59You're a princess.
19:01And we're not together.
19:03I am single now, okay?
19:05I was seeing someone who I cared about very much.
19:08Imagine getting out of close to a 30-year marriage, unexpectedly falling in love with someone.
19:15But you can't talk about that love because the person she fell in love with wanted to keep their relationship
19:21private.
19:22Oh, wow.
19:23Oh, this is a huge transformation.
19:25Whole different room.
19:26This is a desk here that Pasha used to sit here.
19:29Who is this?
19:31Hi, it's Taylor.
19:32Who's this?
19:33This is Pasha.
19:35You can't help but think of how things used to be.
19:40And why would anyone let that slip away?
19:43It just made me feel sad.
19:47A wise hat.
19:49It's a simpler time.
19:52Life passes.
19:55Why did we let life, business, work, whatever, get in the way of us?
20:04How did we let this happen?
20:12Wow, that was tough.
20:16That was tough.
20:17I honestly didn't anticipate having those feelings going to visit, you know, the house.
20:23All I could think about were all the memories and my kids and they grew up there and my life
20:27how it was there.
20:28I was really struck by Mo's kind of emotional disconnect to the whole experience.
20:36I think it's different.
20:36Listen, I mean, this is what he does.
20:38You know, he was looking at it as a businessman and looking at the property and what they had done,
20:44analyzing, and this is his business.
20:46I also think he was a little taken aback how emotional I was and I think he got a little
20:50uncomfortable for a second.
20:53And can he be like that sometimes?
20:55Kind of disconnected and not really getting it?
20:57Yes.
20:57Did that emotional disconnect contribute to the dissolution of your relationship?
21:03Yes.
21:04Yes.
21:05I know that on the after show you said being out at a party over the holidays with Mo and
21:12you felt uncomfortable because he was really, you know, looking around and kind of booked up.
21:18Yeah.
21:18What does that mean?
21:19Rachel was with me there too.
21:21What was he doing?
21:22That's not great.
21:22I think for a second he forgot that I'd been his wife for 30 years, even though we're separated and
21:27was just sort of like doing his thing.
21:29And I was witnessing him be this single guy right in front of me.
21:34I wanted to be like, what are you doing? I'm standing right here.
21:38That had to be very awkward.
21:39It was awful.
21:41It was, honestly, it was, yeah, it was.
21:43She's living a very different life.
21:47Kathy, Kyle and Mo have been separated for years now.
21:50Why do you think they're kind of slow to file?
21:53I think maybe, like, it could be a little denial.
21:57They're not ready to pull the trigger.
21:59That's a good point.
22:00Well, we have had a conversation after Aspen and recently.
22:04Once there's someone, you know, that comes into either one of our lives, they're going to force our hand in
22:09that.
22:10Right.
22:10You know, obviously.
22:11Right.
22:11So we haven't felt that and needed to do that.
22:14But do you think that that would cause anger?
22:16You know, whereas right now you could make it happen without anger.
22:22Without blaming someone else.
22:22Exactly.
22:23Yes, true.
22:23Because you don't want a catalyst.
22:25That's like, oh, it's this person's fault.
22:28I'd rather blame somebody.
22:30By the way, I am with you.
22:32But I'm just saying, if you guys are, you know, cordial now, it's easier to separate assets, to separate lives,
22:41to put a clear mark in it.
22:44Are you afraid that your relationship with him will inherently change once you're officially divorced?
22:50Yes.
22:51That does scare me.
22:52So is that holding you back?
22:55Probably.
22:57Do you think you're waiting for him?
22:58Am I waiting for him to do it?
23:00No, waiting for him to come back.
23:02Mmm.
23:13Do you think you're waiting for him?
23:15Am I waiting for him to do it?
23:17No, waiting for him to come back.
23:19Mmm.
23:21No, I think it's still, I think it's just not knowing what you want.
23:25And, you know, I like the way it is that we can have dinner.
23:29And, you know, he goes to his room, I go to my room.
23:32And, you know, we wake up and we have coffee in the morning and talk about what we're going to
23:36do.
23:36We go skiing.
23:37You mean when you're in Colorado?
23:38When we're in Colorado.
23:39And do you feel like you wouldn't still take family vacations like that?
23:43No.
23:44It would change and it would be scary if it changed for me.
23:46He lives a totally different life.
23:49He lives it, I see him like three times a week.
23:52I see him ever.
23:53Jill from Buffalo, New York said,
23:55Kyle, when or if you do file for divorce, will you be asking for half of the agency?
24:01Well, it's mine.
24:02Oh.
24:03What's yours?
24:04Half of it's mine.
24:04Oh, okay.
24:06Did he realize that?
24:07Well, we built our lives together.
24:09No, I know.
24:10No, you did.
24:10He literally had two nickels when I married him.
24:12He also launched it on your show.
24:14I mean, right?
24:15Yes.
24:15You're a big part of this.
24:17Yes.
24:17Absolutely.
24:18I think money changes things.
24:21Money does change things 100%.
24:23Especially men.
24:24Men and money are...
24:25But it doesn't change at half as mine anyway.
24:26They become a beast together.
24:27This is true, too.
24:29It is, yeah.
24:29I mean, it doesn't change at half as mine.
24:31And I don't have...
24:32I mean, obviously there's no...
24:32Half the debt and half the, you know, so...
24:34We didn't have anything.
24:35We were in a two bedroom apartment with three kids.
24:45You didn't get half.
24:47Yeah.
24:48But I get my spousal support.
24:49You do?
24:50Yeah.
24:50Your monthly alimony is $300,000.
24:54Yes, thanks.
24:54Don't thank me.
24:54You're the one that revealed it.
24:56That didn't include my child support.
24:58It did not?
24:58No.
24:59Child support is, um...
25:00You don't pay taxes on it.
25:02Oh!
25:02Can I marry and divorce him?
25:04Right.
25:05Like, can I?
25:06Can I?
25:07Look, yes.
25:08I've already said.
25:09Right.
25:09I'll take a finder speed.
25:11A finder speed.
25:12Oh, my God.
25:13Not a finder speed.
25:14Okay, I want to move on to something else.
25:16Alexia's wedding looks so beautiful.
25:29Kathy, how did Kyle do as a mother of the bride?
25:32I cried because I knew that you kind of felt on your own.
25:37Because of my...
25:38Oh, because of my...
25:39Even though you're close and whatever, I know how you are.
25:42Well, you know, it was sad in that aspect,
25:44because that's not what I envisioned, you know,
25:47for when our children...
25:48I know.
25:49...got married and everything, but...
25:50I see so much of us in Alexia and Jake.
25:54You know, we're asked all the time how this happened,
25:59and, you know, I really do believe it.
26:02You know, money and fame and traveling, you know.
26:07I...
26:07Sorry, my voice, I'm really trying not to be emotional.
26:17I don't think that if we were living in...
26:19Which I used to say, listen, if you don't make money,
26:21it's totally fine, I don't need you to have the money,
26:23but I don't want to live in L.A. not having money,
26:25because that's not fun, so we would, like, move to Vail,
26:27and you could be, like, a ski instructor,
26:29and I could deal with the kids.
26:31And I do believe that if that had happened,
26:34we'd still be together.
26:35Do you?
26:35Wow.
26:36Wow.
26:37You think life got in the way?
26:39Yeah.
26:40Well, Mo has been out and about all over town,
26:44but you're much more difficult to pin down.
26:46For a few years now, you've been pretty tight-lipped
26:49about your dating life.
26:50Now that you've talked about it,
26:51did you feel a weight had been lifted?
26:55Um...
26:56A little bit, yes, a little bit.
26:58I have to assume that was unbelievably difficult
27:02to fall for someone who said,
27:05I don't want to be a part of this show.
27:08Well, listen, um, there's been...
27:10Listen, a lot of people on this show...
27:13A lot of people, it's just what she's saying,
27:14have had relationships that you never know about.
27:16That you don't even know, and so, anyway.
27:18Everyone was very curious about yours.
27:20I know, but my thing is,
27:22it seems like it maybe would have gotten to a point
27:26where the person didn't want you to do the show.
27:28Um, well, I'm...
27:30I mean, here, I'm sitting here.
27:33Is your staying on the show what led to you,
27:38your relationship breaking up?
27:40No, it wasn't that.
27:43There wasn't an ultimatum or anything like that.
27:45And I didn't say,
27:46I'm choosing a television show over this person.
27:47It wasn't like that.
27:48Dorit, you said at lunch with Sutton
27:50that you had been protecting Kyle for years.
27:52I had protected Kyle at all costs,
27:56even when I felt the most betrayed.
27:59Is this what you were referring to?
28:03Yep. Yep.
28:05That you knew about this relationship,
28:07and you didn't bring it on to the conversation.
28:10Yes.
28:10In the many, many, many times
28:15that it was a big topic of conversation
28:18and knowing things and having to lie,
28:22and it's not particularly nice.
28:25Did you appreciate that she held that for you?
28:30Well, I always appreciate when my friends,
28:33you know, honor, you know, my...
28:37We have that confidence with each other,
28:39and, you know, we can confide in each other,
28:40and just like they've shared things with me that I don't.
28:43Did you feel like you were putting them in a position
28:47because a lot of them knew?
28:54Um...
28:54Well, yes, but I also felt like I, you know,
28:58when, like I said, when they've shared,
29:01and I've known about people that they've dated or whatever,
29:03I do think we have to respect people who are not paid
29:06and signed up, you know, to be here.
29:09You said a lot of people here don't show who they're dating.
29:12Who?
29:13I've had conversations with a number of people here
29:15that have talked to me about someone they're seeing
29:17and dating, and it's just...
29:19They don't want to bring them on.
29:21I mean, Erica, you were dating someone
29:22who you had a bad experience with.
29:24And that person wasn't on the show.
29:26Clearly.
29:26Yeah.
29:27That's what I'm saying.
29:27And there's a number of situations like that.
29:29Imagine if that person was.
29:30Thank God.
29:30You waited.
29:30There's Mike, you're cautious.
29:32Yeah.
29:32But not serious relationships, Kyle.
29:35It was not only a real relationship,
29:37but people were so invested in you,
29:40your relationship with Mo.
29:42It was such a big deal when you broke up.
29:44I've been 12 years.
29:44And so it was just a...
29:46We've been following your story for all these years.
29:49And I've given and shown so much of my life
29:51over these 15 years,
29:52and people will focus on that one little thing
29:55and then say,
29:56oh, she's not shared.
29:57I've shared so much of my life.
29:58I'm not disputing that.
30:00No, I know.
30:00I know, you know.
30:01I'm just saying.
30:03I mean, not everything is, you know,
30:06up for public consumption,
30:07as Lisa Vanderpump would say.
30:10Dorita, on Watch What Happens Live,
30:11I asked what your reaction was
30:13to Kyle and her ex being broken up,
30:15and you said,
30:16I think that sort of happens when she's filming.
30:20Yeah.
30:21So do you think when she's not filming
30:23she's back in the relationship?
30:25I don't know.
30:26Ask her.
30:26She's right to your right.
30:28She sure is.
30:29Yeah, I've made that very clear that I'm single.
30:32Yes, no.
30:33Do you still feel heartbroken?
30:36That wasn't a thing.
30:36No.
30:36No?
30:37No.
30:39Well, I'm gonna leave it there.
30:40We'll be right back after this.
30:47Coming up...
30:48When I saw that look, I was like,
30:50f***ing hell.
30:51I was not coming at you.
30:54I know the eyes.
30:55I know the look.
30:55You don't.
31:01We're back with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
31:05Sutton Strack may have let Avi go,
31:07ended on bad terms with Garcelle,
31:09and faced a painful annulment from her ex.
31:13But her twins, Sutton Brown, gave us a light
31:16and breezy energy this year.
31:18While Miss Brown mended things with Erica,
31:21and even roomed with Amanda in Italy,
31:24Sutton was unable to destrack herself
31:27when it came to Dorit.
31:29Watch.
31:30Mm-hmm.
31:31What happened with Garcelle really...
31:33Oh.
31:34She left.
31:35She left?
31:36What happened?
31:38I don't know.
31:39That is a mystery.
31:40My marriage has been eradicated
31:42from the Catholic Church.
31:46The letter from the Catholic Church
31:48came to Strack Brown.
31:52Truth is, I'm not a Strack.
31:55You should destrack.
31:56I would like to really embrace
31:58and introduce you to Sutton Brown.
32:02It feels like the wall is starting to come down
32:05between me and Sutton.
32:06I feel as if I'm really a part of the group.
32:10I love you Sutton!
32:12I'm just...
32:15happy.
32:16You don't want to barge in and be like,
32:18I am going to be your friend.
32:20You cannot mock me.
32:21I'm not mocking you.
32:23It's also too...
32:24Please stop.
32:25Okay.
32:26Just stop.
32:28With Sutton, sometimes she hurts people that don't.
32:31She doesn't mean to hurt.
32:32It's one of the reasons why Garcella,
32:35because it's always all about Sutton.
32:37It's not about anybody else.
32:39She's like a Catherine wheel.
32:40That firework that spins around,
32:42you put it on a tree,
32:43and sparks go everywhere,
32:44and then sometimes you get hit by the sparks.
32:47Sutton just wrote me.
32:48I've decided not to attend this evening.
32:51I'll hate her forever for this.
32:53You'll hate me forever for this?
32:54Yeah.
32:54Why?
32:55Kidding.
32:56I don't know if you're being sarcastic right now.
32:58What do you think?
32:59Okay.
33:00Bye-bye.
33:01Weirdo.
33:03I think that I did put in a lot of effort
33:06over the summer with Dorit,
33:08and she doesn't care.
33:10I have witnessed you treat your friends
33:13like dirks all summer.
33:16Sutton Straps, Sutton Brown,
33:18whoever the hell you are.
33:19I'm walking out the door.
33:20Hello.
33:21Goodbye.
33:22It's a nice bow.
33:24Thanks.
33:25I was joking.
33:28All right.
33:29So, Dorit,
33:30I'm gonna assume that you don't believe
33:33that Sutton actually made any progress
33:35in terms of personal growth?
33:36Oh, I did.
33:37You did.
33:38Oh, my God.
33:39I was one of the first to say it.
33:41Right.
33:41But then...
33:45Erica said the thing she noticed
33:46is that Sutton Brown wasn't drinking the vodka.
33:50Sutton, what made you decide to ease up?
33:52I think when I took a break,
33:55I didn't drink at all for three months.
33:58And, you know...
33:59After last season?
34:00Yeah.
34:01I now drink, like, champagne or wine with dinner.
34:03It's so much better for me.
34:05Do you now believe you have or had
34:08a problematic relationship with alcohol?
34:12Um, well, I think maybe.
34:15I was getting very lost.
34:18And it...
34:19I wasn't, like, drinking too much.
34:20I just was drinking too frequently.
34:22I needed a reset.
34:24When Watch What Happens Live,
34:26Garcelle said that she simply realized
34:28that she had given much more in your friendship
34:30than she got back.
34:32Okay.
34:32Not only she didn't have my back,
34:34she also, when she called me,
34:35never took accountability for it.
34:38And that hurt my feelings a lot.
34:40I don't know why she thinks that,
34:42to be honest.
34:42I would have done anything
34:45for her and those boys.
34:47Anything.
34:47And she knows that.
34:49Do any of you ladies have a thought
34:50about what may have happened?
34:55I had one thought the other day.
34:57What was it?
34:57Just one.
34:59I think it really was when I said that...
35:03The question was,
35:04what was your biggest surprise?
35:07I am most surprised from this season
35:10that Erica and I got along so well.
35:15It was no surprise to me that Garcelle came
35:18and helped me with my mother.
35:19That was not a surprise to me.
35:21I think the conjecture may have been that
35:23you said that after Erica had said Garcelle
35:25was very boring and did nothing on the show.
35:28Yeah.
35:29My friendship with her was more than a reunion show.
35:33Well, I've seen the friendship between Garcelle and Sutton
35:36and I've seen it off camera like before I was on the show.
35:39Yes.
35:39And you know, they would go out to dinner.
35:41They'd ride in the West Hollywood parade together
35:44and it was a genuine friendship.
35:46The plain truth is this, I have lost a friend
35:49and I hope that one day that we can reconcile
35:53or at least talk.
35:56Sutton, the fans were not happy to see you lose your cool
35:59with Jennifer over the course of the season.
36:01Oh no, they were not happy.
36:02I can't even move, but I take your hand.
36:06I honestly, I love Sutton so much.
36:08I just want to apologize for...
36:10I could see you were overwhelmed.
36:12I should never have said those things to Kyle
36:15and I was in a vulnerable moment.
36:17I knew that it wasn't personal, but you know, I have...
36:21I too had a terrible childhood, so I have like trigger points
36:24and so I just really feel like Sutton is a very good friend to me
36:29and she has been there for me in really, really crucial moments in my life
36:33and so I apologize for saying that.
36:36Thank you, Jennifer.
36:37I really do apologize for like barking at you
36:41and I really do because you're the last person I would want to hurt
36:45and I appreciate you saying that, so that's that.
36:49Moving on to Sutton and Dorit.
36:51Sutton, at Rachel's birthday you had an encounter with Dorit
36:55that went particularly awry.
36:57Yeah, it just went south.
36:59I sat down on the couch and I have looked into Sutton's eyes for five years
37:03and I've had her look at me with that look when she is going to be horrible.
37:08I hadn't seen it for a few months. Sutton Brown doesn't have that look.
37:12And when I saw that look, I was like, you know, she went to the dark side.
37:17At the party?
37:17At the party.
37:18Her and I, we need to have a conversation, but I'd like to have it when I've got more of
37:25my head in.
37:27Hi, baby.
37:28What's happening?
37:29You look very serious.
37:31I'm listening.
37:32Sutton's gotten a lot of opinions about how I should approach Kyle.
37:36You are so presupposing things.
37:39I just said, you know, I think maybe you should say you're sorry to Kyle
37:42and you're all going to make things good.
37:44And then when I was, you know what?
37:45Just listen.
37:47I was not coming at you for anything.
37:50I know the eyes.
37:51I know the look.
37:52And pretty much everybody else does.
37:53You don't.
37:54So don't say there was something in my eyes.
37:56By the way, when I was talking to you about Phoenix, why didn't you-
37:56What you saw in my eyes was pure exhaustion.
38:09Why didn't you-
38:09I was not coming at you for anything.
38:13I know the eyes.
38:14I know the look.
38:15But you don't.
38:15And pretty much everybody else does.
38:16You don't.
38:17So don't say there was something in my eyes.
38:19By the way, when I was talking to you about Phoenix, why didn't you-
38:19What you saw in my eyes was pure exhaustion.
38:23Sutton.
38:24That's it.
38:25You had another agenda.
38:27I did not.
38:27And when Rachel came over and I slightly turned-
38:30You don't slightly turn.
38:31You were upset by that.
38:32I did something so horrible.
38:34You got up and-
38:35Well, so then-
38:35Jennifer and I both were like, what?
38:37What just happened?
38:38She doesn't show up for your book party.
38:40Yes.
38:40And it seems like that was the final straw for you?
38:44Yeah.
38:44Dory, can I ask you one thing, honestly?
38:46Yes.
38:47Because you have a lot of other friends too at that party.
38:50Yes.
38:50Do you really truthfully care that she was there or not?
38:53You know, when she had her fashion show, I showed up to support her.
38:58But Dory, you know what you did though?
39:00You came with an inauthentic smile on because you couldn't wait to trash it.
39:07I think he's wearing sneakers that are two times his size.
39:12Are you impressed with her collection?
39:19So I would rather not go to something and not trash and not be mean than show up, pretend like
39:26you loved it, and then turn around and trash it.
39:29That's worse.
39:31Can I ask you a question?
39:32Yeah.
39:32Hypothetically, if she had shown up to your book cover thing-
39:35And said, who does a party for the launch of a book cover, and the cover's not even good, how
39:43would you have felt?
39:45Well, I would feel like sh**.
39:47Okay.
39:47But what does that have to do about her not showing up or showing up?
39:50I'm saying that you went to her presentation, and I'm saying it's-
39:54I didn't do it on the night, Andy.
39:56Just the next day.
39:57And when you're not in a good place with someone, you put fun.
39:58I'm making an analogy.
40:00Yes, but it's not a very good one.
40:01Okay.
40:01I think it's perfect.
40:02Okay.
40:04I do think when I saw you and Erica during my book launch, that hurt.
40:12Us being together?
40:14Yes.
40:15I texted her.
40:16I wasn't coming.
40:17Oh, I haven't done any of that.
40:18Oh, you haven't?
40:19No.
40:20She's gonna be mad.
40:23You couldn't show up to support me.
40:25No, I couldn't.
40:25I was very hurt.
40:27What were you very hurt by?
40:28Oh, something you said to me at the table.
40:30So what was it?
40:31Uh, why are you trying to save yourself?
40:33You're doing this to save yourself.
40:35Don't get your hand in my face.
40:36When I said-
40:37Don't do that.
40:37You need to work, and you need to contribute, I didn't mean you need to be a .
40:41Oh, God.
40:43Jesus Christ.
40:44She said, you're coming after me to, like, save your job?
40:48Yes.
40:49That's-
40:49On this show?
40:49Yes.
40:50So that's what hurt you?
40:51You could call me a all day.
40:53It's that that bothered me the most.
40:54Because I had bared my soul about what had happened with my DV stuff.
40:59I'd really, like, you know, put it up.
41:01And when I see someone that I love, meaning you, and then you said that to me, and I was
41:06like, no.
41:08Well, Erica, you have to understand from my point.
41:10I do understand.
41:11I let you speak.
41:14First off, don't.
41:16Don't what?
41:17Don't talk to me like that.
41:18Talking over me, let me finish how I feel.
41:21Okay, finish.
41:23That is exactly why I'm in the position that I'm in.
41:26Or how I feel.
41:27Okay.
41:27And that's it.
41:28You unleashed on me.
41:29Yes, I did.
41:30What was it that made you explode like that?
41:34I'll tell you when I lost it.
41:36You said, Boas has supported me more than anybody in this group.
41:39I was like, oh, no.
41:41So is there anything you want to say in response to those two things?
41:46Do you want to apologize?
41:48Apologize for what, Andy?
41:52She's saying that it made her flip when you said she was doing that for her job.
41:57Andy.
41:57So do you want to apologize?
42:05Next week, the reunion concludes.
42:08How's wedding planning?
42:10Will there be a bachelorette?
42:11I'll be in charge of strippers.
42:13I asked you what you think Amanda is good at, and you responded, scamming.
42:18It was very harsh.
42:19You said I was jealous of you.
42:21You were going so hard on me in the interview because of your friendship with Dorit.
42:24I'm never going to be able to have that friendship with you because of this.
42:28You unleashed on me.
42:29Yes, I did.
42:30Because someone's telling you, you have to co-after Dorit.
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