00:00Between the two of you, who do you think is the most victimized by Kathy and Heathcliff's toxic relationship?
00:07I mean, what is it, Isabella goes through is pretty tough.
00:11Well, you.
00:14It's pretty brutal.
00:15The dog collaring of it all, you know.
00:18I think we're both unlucky.
00:20Yeah, we've not done very well out of it.
00:23But also, you know, I don't know.
00:26I think they also have such a tough time as well.
00:30Everyone has a bit of a tough time in the end.
00:33True.
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