00:18what else can we do for the well-being of the founders so the first thing I would say in
00:25order
00:25to support the well-being of entrepreneurs is to start openly talking about it because I was just
00:32in a conversation with a group of entrepreneurs and we were talking how very few people talk about
00:38the mental health that founders are going through right the struggles the pressure the stress and
00:45how they're tackling all these challenges it's it's really hard for them and they feel you know
00:51pretty lonely and they don't know who to share this so more and more I believe that people and
00:57founders and everyone should be talking about the importance of mental health and the well-being
01:02because if a founder is not really doing well mentally and physically right because remember
01:08when stress hits your body it affects your nervous system and then once your nervous system is
01:13affected then you start getting autoimmune diseases and diseases so all of that is is tied together
01:19to the stress of being the entrepreneur so what we have to do is understand what are the tools
01:26to lower stress how can entrepreneurs are be able to disconnect from their job from their work from
01:33their company for a little bit so that they can recharge energy and be able to continue you know thriving
01:40and building their companies because if they're not well mentally and physically they're not going to be
01:45able to scale their companies or be a good leader for their employees right because everybody
01:50will start seeing that the founder is suffering from you know illnesses or stress or even start you know
01:58with mental health that will affect the decision making in the company are investors truly
02:06prioritizing the well-being no i don't think investors are prioritizing the well-being of entrepreneurs on the
02:14contrary i think there are very few investors that are talking to their entrepreneurs about
02:18the importance of taking care of themselves and that is exactly the conversation that i think
02:23we have to start having more and more at the end investors need a return on their investment right
02:29so they need to make sure the founders are working hard and their teams to be able to bring that
02:35liquidity back to the investor
02:37which is great what they don't understand is that by putting the pressure and by not how helping the
02:44portfolio companies and the founders in the portfolio to take care of themselves that liquidity will not come
02:51right and it will probably be delayed because the founder will start suffering um different types of you know
02:59mental health illnesses or as i say physically autoimmune that will not allow them to thrive and really
03:06focus to make the right decisions in the company so if investors would think that this is a priority
03:12and i think it is a priority they would actually probably have better returns because founders would
03:20be really taking care of themselves and as a result there would be probably more exits and more liquidity
03:26how do you personally recognize when a founder is close to breaking point
03:35when they are when i talk to them and they say they have no time and i can feel their
03:42stress in their voice
03:44and the way that they're talking about how much pressure they have right i'm able to have these
03:51conversations and i'm able to to create a safe space for them to be vulnerable and i ask those hard
03:59questions so it's about asking and listening it's about asking and listening you know so that founders
04:06can feel safe in opening up and telling us okay i am i'm struggling and i'm on the on the
04:14verge of a
04:14burnout what happens is typically founders do not want to talk when they're at that stage of you know of
04:21stress and almost burnout they talk about it after it happens and that's what i'm seeing more like
04:28founders after they burn out they come and say oh now i understand what burnout is
04:35well then attention what are you giving attention so what happens usually is of course you start a
04:44company zero you're doing everything you tend to do everything you're trying to solve it very fast
04:50of course it's a very intense period of time right it's exciting also because you're truly motivated you
04:55want to see this being born so the median right but as soon as the company starts growing right and
05:02everything's right the baby's
05:04yeah
05:05so
05:14so
05:21So
05:47So, this is going to be...
05:50Hi. Thank you, Mark.
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