00:00When people talk about great TV fathers, they always mention Uncle Phil.
00:04James Avery, I felt like he gave that character so much authority, so much heart, very authentic.
00:09He was an incredible actor, an incredible person.
00:11I think that it's important in life to have mentors, to have people that you look up to
00:16that help guide you in many ways in life.
00:20I went to college for a year and had a dean who said,
00:23do you have a male figure in your life that you can look up to and talk to that's not
00:28your parent?
00:29And James Avery was one of those people, and so was Joe Marcel, who played, you know, the butler Jeffrey.
00:34And he was just an incredible man.
00:36And the writers wrote an incredible character, and he obviously did a lot for a lot of people
00:41with showing them, you know, what a real dad's supposed to look like.
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