00:00Corey, we come to find out in the second half of the series that Nancy's lover David is actually Howard.
00:06We also learn that he's an evil mastermind of sorts.
00:09How much of their relationship do you imagine was planned out by Howard in advance?
00:14Oh, I think he's just as surprised as the as the audience.
00:18At least that was that was that was how I played it.
00:21I don't know if that's what the writers had in mind.
00:23But it was much more fun for me to play the surprise of this this relationship blossoming and to, you
00:34know, let it let it happen in real time.
00:37Was it a surprise to you as well?
00:39Did you know in advance or?
00:41Well, what I think I was first given the first four episodes when I was offered the role and I
00:47I read it and I said, OK, this is a fun character.
00:49It's intriguing.
00:51I don't know where this is going.
00:52And then I read five and six and and then I was I was totally hooked.
00:58I was like, I can't not play this role because it's it's it's it's pretty rare when you're reading a
01:03script and you get so surprised.
01:05You think a character is one way and it's completely another.
01:08And that was that was really exciting.
01:10And the chance to work so intensely with both Kate and Lizzie was was really cool.
01:15Both Howard and Robert have terrible coping mechanisms and tend to lash out in destructive ways as a result of
01:21their deep seated insecurities.
01:23Do you think there's a larger lesson that men could or should take away from the show?
01:27Yeah, don't be like that.
01:28Yeah.
01:29Yeah, I mean, I think I think the loss of status is a really crippling thing for for anybody, but
01:40especially for men.
01:41And I think, you know, even though our characters are coming from completely different ends of the socioeconomic scale, they
01:55both feel that they're losing something.
01:58They're losing power, they're losing status and and they they behave in exactly the wrong way.
02:06Corey, what is your relationship with Howard and how do you personally identify with him and reconcile with his terrible
02:12actions?
02:13I think Howard.
02:15Had great expectations for his life and he's deeply disappointed with where he's at and he is he's looking for
02:25an escape.
02:25And I think we can all relate to that.
02:29You know, when what happens happens, it's not intentional, but it's everything he does afterwards that is truly evil.
02:38I mean, there were there's certain things as I was reading the script, I was like, OK, that that that
02:43I can I can stand behind.
02:45I can rationalize.
02:47But once once once the cover up begins, that's when that's when he really he really turns.
02:55And but he's some kind of like malignant narcissist.
02:59Yeah, something like that.
03:01Yeah.
03:01Yeah.
03:01He's definitely on the sort of scale of psychopathy.
03:06Yeah, I think so.
03:07I think there's certain things that he does because he's very cold about it.
03:10Like he yeah, yeah, he doesn't seem to be breaking down, you know, like in shame or these terms are,
03:19you know, these sort of psychological terms are are helpful from the outside.
03:23But I think as actors, sometimes it it doesn't it doesn't really help because you really just have to sort
03:28of play the scene and let, you know, let let the determination of where these characters lie on any sort
03:35of scale.
03:36You know, let that let that happen from the outside, Joel, my next question is for you, and it's about
03:40the very last scene of the series.
03:42This happens after Mary has already aired out her grievances with Robert earlier on in the episode.
03:48And at the very end, Mary and Robert exchange kind of an ambiguous look.
03:52What do you think that that looks signified?
03:55Well, Robert is a bit of a whore, you know, so I think anything is possible.
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