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00:12I'm tired of both sides.
00:17We're here, and we're here.
00:21Maybe we'll get the courage to do it.
00:28I'm so happy.
00:29We're here.
00:33For me, solidarity is helping without getting something back.
00:40Solidarity is helping people in distress, helping people in needs, whatever their condition,
00:47whatever their religious or wherever they come from.
00:52And in our case, it's also whatever the legal situation.
01:07One day, I went to the Roya Valley, and I was with my daughter.
01:12And on the side of the road, there were three African kids that were walking.
01:17But they were completely lost because actually they were on the road to the mountains and to the snow.
01:23It was the winter, and they were wearing shorts, so they were not equipped.
01:27So I decided to take them in my car and to drive them to Nice.
01:38My name is Pierre-Alain Manoni. I'm 46 years old, and I got two children.
01:42I work at the university doing research and teaching.
01:46I was arrested for transporting migrants that I picked in France, in the Roya Valley, and they arrested me in
01:55France on the highway.
01:58Before I was arrested, I knew other people got arrested with migrants in their car.
02:05They would take the migrants of the car, and then they would let you go.
02:09They were released without any trial.
02:11So I wasn't concerned about any consequences.
02:15And for my case, I don't know why, but the prosecutor decided to prosecute me.
02:23And then it started, two days later, Cédric Erroux got arrested and was put on trial too.
02:32But at some point, they decided to prosecute everyone who was helping the migrants.
02:47I'm a soldier!
02:51I'm a soldier!
02:52I'm a soldier!
02:55Vi...
02:56Ci spiego un attimino.
02:58Voi che venite dalla Barroia, che problemi avete avuto e che problemi soprattutto lui avuto?
03:03Sì, lui è un vero europeo che è stato arrestato sia in Italia che in Francia.
03:11C'è lo stesso reato di aiuto all'immigrazione clandestina
03:15o comunque un reato di solidarietà.
03:19In Italy it was denounced when there was still an ordinance of the Sindaco
03:25that prohibit the food of migrants outside of the strutture,
03:31such as the Croce Rossa or the Campo Roia.
03:35Invece, in terms of France, it was arrested
03:40while transported 6 migrants from the Marroia, which is Francia,
03:48and it's the first time that we have to pay for the rest of the country.
04:08I'm Gérard Bonnet, Gibi. I've had a lot of commerce in the village, here at Saorges.
04:13I'm now retired, which allows me to spend a lot of time
04:17on this problem of refugees.
04:20I have two possibilities of trial.
04:22I have a trial that is on the tribunal of Nice.
04:25The maximum penalty is of 5 years of imprisonment
04:28and of 30.000 euros of payment.
04:30And a trial, maybe in Italy, at Imperia,
04:34where there is the most low,
04:35it's 206 euros of payment, and maybe of prison.
04:39I would like to stay in my camp,
04:42to grow my vegetables,
04:43and take care of my dogs and my trees.
04:46But there is a distress at our doors, at our feet.
04:51So I participate with many people in the valley
04:54to try to bring a minimum of help to all these people.
05:00I work with an association Roya Citoyenne
05:05who takes care of the rights of refugees.
05:11The Roya is a very short river
05:13that goes from the Gulf of Tandes
05:16and goes to Ventimi.
05:17Ventimi is the Italian border.
05:21The part of the south is Italian.
05:23At the north, from the Gulf of Tandes,
05:25it's the Piedmont Italian.
05:27And between, we have five French communities
05:30in the valley of La Roya.
05:39When the French government decided
05:41to close the borders in June 2015,
05:47when the migrants were blocked there
05:49at the border between Ventimi and Menton,
05:51the refugees were looking for other roads
05:54and went to the north,
05:57to the valley of La Roya
05:58to try to pass in France.
06:01So we saw them arrive in the valley
06:03at the end of the summer of 2016.
06:07So they accumulate to the border,
06:09they accumulate to Ventimi
06:10where, from the other side,
06:12our association and other associations
06:14will nourish the evening,
06:16because in this moment,
06:17it goes to 400-500 people every day.
06:36It's the place where the government
06:39wants to distribute the food
06:42to not be...
06:43We are in front of the Cimetière
06:45and the government
06:46asked to distribute it there
06:48to not disturb the population
06:49of Ventimi.
06:50After having interrupted,
06:52now we can authorize
06:54a special place.
06:55The order of the European Union
06:56to enter the border
06:57because,
06:59although it is not
07:01the camp of the Croce Rossa
07:02that is being made
07:03and having to have
07:05the space,
07:06without having to have
07:07the camp of the Gianchette
07:10even if not
07:12it is official,
07:15they have continued
07:16to give them
07:19this creates a whole series of problems from the point of view sanitario,
07:23because you don't know what they have to eat, you don't know who prepare them.
07:27The Baro-Orbit offers help, offers clothes,
07:34we charge our phones for the boys,
07:38we charge them to children,
07:40we offer clothes if you need it,
07:42I am not sure what is possible,
07:45I am not sure what is possible,
07:46I am not sure what is possible,
07:55I think it is absurd,
08:01I think it is absurd,
08:01it is absurd,
08:02what our Sindaco has given us,
08:08and for me, as Christiana, it is not acceptable.
08:18Well, I am Rito Julio Alvarez,
08:25I am currently a parish here in Ventimiglia,
08:27where, from a year ago,
08:29we are receiving migrants from the transit of Ventimiglia.
08:35thousands of people who do not have any specific possibility of living,
08:41and so they are forced to sleep in the train station
08:46or under the bridge.
08:48And last year, with the Caritas,
08:51we opened this church
08:53to welcome people,
08:56which at that time,
08:58were 200 people.
09:01This ordinance of the governor of Ventimiglia,
09:04it is not the best.
09:07He did it with his motivations,
09:09especially to respond to some demands
09:13or complaints of the population,
09:17that they do not accept,
09:18that the immigrants are in the halls,
09:20that they are in certain places,
09:22that they can eat on the street,
09:24because the people,
09:25it seems that all this brings very bad fame to the city.
09:30They have already given a different response,
09:34and that, at that moment,
09:35is suspended.
09:37Sometimes I look at the governors
09:39who are talking about
09:41thinking only about political results.
09:45Sometimes,
09:45they have lost in the way
09:47what are the fundamental principles.
09:49It is important.
09:51We have on the side of the floor
09:54a strong responsibility,
09:57which is unfortunately
09:58a lack of certainty
10:01of certain rules,
10:04and certain rules
10:04and often,
10:06the public order
10:07is confused with what are
10:08the social needs.
10:10We could again
10:11take into consideration
10:13if they were produced
10:13those phenomena
10:15the first phenomena
10:16we could now
10:16take into consideration
10:18the fact
10:18of taking in mind
10:20the ordinance
10:20or the regulation
10:21of urban urban care.
10:28I'm leaving
10:28from the beginning
10:30and I took one year
10:32and then,
10:33I came here
10:34and then,
10:35I came here
10:35and then,
10:36and then,
10:38I came here
10:39and then,
10:40and then,
10:40I came here
10:43and I wanted to go
10:46to France
10:47because here,
10:48it doesn't like me.
10:49come here
10:50where I'm sleeping
10:51and I'm sleeping.
10:53Look.
10:55Look.
10:57Look.
10:57What can they even say
11:00that they are in Europe?
11:02They don't sleep
11:03like that.
11:04They can't say
11:06that they are in Europe.
11:07Look.
11:09If other European countries
11:11you ask for the question
11:12to Italy,
11:14you will say
11:15that they have
11:15their responsibilities.
11:18We gave houses, we did everything for them, and they would say it like that.
11:24It's like if you knew the truth, you know the truth.
11:28If you have taken responsibility, no one does not sleep like this.
11:33I was here three times. I went to my tomb.
11:39They refused me, but I didn't go before.
11:50The border between Ventimille and Menton is closed.
11:54There are police checkpoints, so they cannot cross.
11:58When they try to take the train, they are taken off the train.
12:12From Paris and Nizza in France, the French government decided to be very rigid in the controls on the border.
12:20It's a very sad situation because the fact that they have a different skin color,
12:28that leads them to be easily identified.
12:33They make them go down from the train and return them to Ventimille.
12:37Sometimes they walk on the highway, which is along the coast.
12:42There have been at least three people killed on the highway,
12:46hurt by trucks or cars, or falling from bridges, so they take risks.
12:52Sometimes they try to go through walking paths on the mountains,
12:56and it's a very dangerous walk.
13:01Then we have to arrive at the 15th, when there is this enormous flow,
13:10because Italy has become a kind of a trap.
13:13You arrive on the Italian coast, but then you can't leave Italy.
13:21If we are here, we will notice that there is a rope that is on the crest.
13:30You can see it.
13:31That is the border.
13:32Once you are there, you can see it on your left,
13:37you can see it on your left,
13:38you can see the lights of Monte Carlo,
13:41and you can see it in that direction,
13:42and it's dangerous because behind this rock there is a falesia
13:46and you can see it on your left.
13:48You can see it on the night,
13:49and this is called the Passo of the Morte.
13:58During the fascism, the controls were much more severe.
14:01The frontier, especially in certain moments, was militarized.
14:05So, in the after-war,
14:06the after-war,
14:09then there was Schengen,
14:11so the frontier was not more.
14:14And now, from the arrival of the Arab Emirates
14:19until now,
14:20the Schengen was suspended
14:22for those who are not comunitarians,
14:25and therefore,
14:25there are more or less severe controls,
14:28according to the historical moments.
14:29Currently, they are very severe.
14:31And they are very severe.
14:31They are very severe.
14:37They are very severe.
14:38They are very severe.
14:39They are very severe.
14:39But the crazy thing is that you can also go to France
14:44by crossing the border,
14:46which is between Ventimiglia
14:48and the French valley of the Roya.
14:50Here, there is no checkpoint.
14:54So, for a long time,
14:54they were able to walk along the road
14:56or along the train tracks.
15:17The first village is Bray-sur-Royah,
15:20so that's where Cédric Heroux lives.
15:22And so, that's why there is a lot of people
15:25that are sheltered here.
15:52in the city where people are not safe.
16:01On the street,
16:02the village is a place to be covered.
16:03We are very close to the border.
16:03but it's not easy.
16:04And once only,
16:07I've been able to cross the border.
16:09I've managed to cross the border.
16:09And now,
16:10I don't know if I'm going to go,
16:12if I can have any protection
16:13or if I can't,
16:15I don't know.
16:15But I've never returned to Italy.
16:20Sometimes,
16:21we are going to the border.
16:22I really like to tell our head because I don't know even how to talk about it like that.
16:26People are really destroying and kidnapping children and kidnapping the girls.
16:32I don't know what they are up to and I don't know what really they need.
16:35I don't know what they pretend they are Muslims and they are fighting for Muslims.
16:40I don't see even the reason of doing that. I don't know.
16:43Killing innocent people, splashing blood like this is not fair.
16:47Muslim doesn't say something like that.
16:50We are all praising for one Lord, which is God. You understand?
16:55I really give great thanks to the owner of this place, which is Cédric Herroy.
16:59I never see some kind of hero like this.
17:01The problem once they are in the French valley of the Roya is that they are stuck.
17:06There is only one road that leaves the Roya valley.
17:10And this road is going through the village of Sospelle.
17:14And here they put like a big checkpoint.
17:17I came to Ventimila like one week. So I sleep under the bridge.
17:25The time I was in Ventimila, I take a knife because I want to kill myself because there are not
17:30people to take care of me.
17:32So I met Mr. Cédric. I explained to myself to him. He helped me. I thank God we make to
17:40continue to bless her for me.
17:42She is my father. And I pray to God that I want to be his son because I lost my
17:48brother and I lost my entire family.
17:52All night I did not sleep because I still remember my family. I lost my father and then I lost
17:58my mother.
17:59My younger brother also, I lost my younger brother. God select Mr. Cédric to help me.
18:05I don't want to go anywhere. I want to stay in France here with Mr. Cédric.
18:12Cédric Errou, je suis agriculteur à Breil-sur-Roya.
18:15Ici, c'est sûr, on a 50 personnes qui passent par semaine.
18:1840 à 50 personnes qui passent par semaine ici.
18:20Trouver des solutions pour tout le monde, c'est compliqué.
18:22Tous les gens qui sont ici, c'est des demandeurs d'asile en France.
18:25Ils sont bloqués à Breil-sur-Roya parce qu'il y a des contrôles policiers après Breil-sur-Roya.
18:30So what happened is that sometimes people have been taking them to Nice and some have been arrested.
18:39Happily, they have found a protocol with the police where they can declare how many people they're going to take
18:47to the prefecture
18:48so they can do their asylum request. They get authorization for taking a little number of people to the Nice
18:56prefecture.
18:57Il faut rappeler que la frontière était fermée pour des questions antiterroristes.
19:02Et là, le terrorisme, en fait, il se crée à cause de la misère.
19:07Et là, on est en train de créer de la misère et de la violence.
19:10Et la misère, elle n'a pas d'origine raciale, elle n'a pas d'origine ethnique, la haine non
19:15plus.
19:16Et son origine, en fait, elle est basée sur le mépris, sur la violence, sur tout ça.
19:23Et la démocratie, ce n'est pas forcément attendre qu'un élu, qu'un politique gère la vie de la
19:30cité, donc la vie des gens.
19:32Ça implique aussi que quand il y a une carence d'État et quand l'État ne respecte pas la
19:37démocratie,
19:37c'est aux citoyens, aux concitoyens, au peuple de réagir face à cette carence, à cette défaillance.
19:46Parce qu'on a des politiques qui se permettent de se mettre au-dessus de tout, à bafouer des lois.
19:52Et ce n'est pas le cas. Ils doivent respecter les lois comme moi, comme tout le monde.
19:56Et le gros problème, en fait, c'est que moi, je suis agriculteur.
20:00Ce n'est pas mon métier de faire ça. Il faut être formé pour faire ça.
20:03Donc, je fais un peu comme je peux. Et ce qu'il faudrait, c'est que l'État reprenne tout
20:06ça.
20:15Mais ce qui est fou, c'est que c'est les gens du village qui font le travail du gouvernement.
20:24Quand ils parlent de ce valley comme un valley de militants ou d'activistes,
20:28ce n'est pas vrai. Ce ne sont pas les gens qui ont décidé d'être activistes.
20:42Ce qui nous questionne fort, c'est quand est-ce que ça va s'arrêter ?
20:47Pour combien de temps on doit faire ça ?
20:50Et qu'on sait que pour que les réfugiés n'arrivent plus, il ne faut qu'ils aient plus envie
20:54de partir de chez eux.
20:55On sait que si ces gens partent que chez eux, c'est pour des problèmes économiques, politiques,
21:01et que les pays comme l'Érythrée, le Soudan, la Somalie sont en guerre pour des raisons qui nous échappent
21:13à nous,
21:13mais que la politique internationale pourrait résoudre si elle le voulait.
21:19Voilà, c'est l'inquiétude par rapport à la durée maintenant.
21:22Et encore, peut-être aussi on aura dans pas longtemps des réfugiés climatiques.
21:28Donc, les pommes de terre et les arbres risquent d'attendre encore un temps.
21:36Je pense souvent à mes enfants.
21:38J'ai deux enfants et je veux leur donner l'éducation que j'ai obtenu.
21:43Part de ma famille est Corsican.
21:45Mon grand-father était un docteur.
21:47J'ai appris que vous, qu'importe quelle situation,
21:54vous ne pouvez pas laisser quelqu'un sur le chemin.
21:57C'est une question d'honneur, ou de dignité.
22:00Si je n'ai pas aidé ces gens, et si ils m'aiment dans la nuit,
22:07comment je vais vivre avec ça ?
22:09Je ne veux pas être responsable.
22:11Donc, bien sûr, je vais faire ça encore.
22:20Excluding les gens, clôture les frontières et être peur des foreigners
22:24n'a jamais été fait à la paix et à la paix.
22:30J'ai appris à la paix et je m'aimé.
22:57J'ai appris à la paix.
23:00I got a neck in the west, my niggas seemin' like a bitch
23:03My way or my, I gotta see the switch if you wanna beat it in life
23:07Up a good walk, mama be each one of the neck
23:10You will never know, but you see it like I'm bein' dramatic
23:13Yo, yo, I gotta go, yo, yo, boy, this is gotta go
23:16Yo, boy, what you say about it, how I'm lost in life, huh?
23:20I'm lost in life, nah, I'm lost in life, nah, I'm lost in life, nah
23:25Boy, oh boy, I gotta go, yo, this is your boy
23:28Life easy, boy, I gotta go, yeah
23:30I'm makin' to the up-lovers, done that
23:33Niggas never know us, see me down
23:35I'm makin' the money, dude, to bein' mess up
23:37I tell the cash, I'm all over
23:39I mean to hold up
23:40See independent, feelin' the success
23:43Cause I ain't out, no, the life is in the head of a big fire
23:47She come and call me, tell me, she love me, cause it ain't
23:50You won't see me down, you won't see me down
23:53You won't see me down, you won't see me down, down, down, yeah
23:57Yeah, yeah
23:58We start to the knees, yo
24:01Fuck why it's not knees, yo
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