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El Espectador habló con varios líderes y lideresas quienes advierten sobre las graves consecuencias que han tenido que vivir a causa de la exploración y explotación petrolera. Aseguran que sus comunidades se enfrentan a la contaminación de las fuentes hídricas, el desplazamiento de los peces, hablan de vulneración de derechos y de la necesidad de sobrevivir frente a la llegada de las empresas que buscan el llamado oro negro. El traslape viene enfrentando la visión del Gobierno, con visión económica, contra la de los indígenas, que hablan de defender ecosistemas necesarios para sus pueblos. Todos los reflectores están en el cumplimiento de la decisión de la Anla, quien dijo a finales de marzo que desde el 2022 se exigirá a las empresas que necesiten licencias ambientales -como las petroleras- la presentación de medidas de adaptación y mitigación al cambio climático.

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00:00What is the issue of Petrolia in our territory?
00:12The issue of Petrolia is that we want to live in peace, in peace, with the Mother Nature,
00:18who gives us life and the survival of a millennial culture in the Department of Putumayo.
00:25Therefore, the decision of the indigenous people is to leave us quiet in our territory.
00:31We don't want to know anything about the extraction of hydrocarbures
00:36and other companies that come to our territory.
00:41We want to live in peace.
00:42That's the message that gives us in the Department of Putumayo.
00:46And so we, the leaders that are in front of us,
00:49what do we want to do and what we are going to do
00:51is to mobilize the national scenarios as we are at the moment
00:56to say to those companies that let us quiet.
01:01Some communities will have in the autonomy
01:05always respecting the issue of the Convenience 169
01:09where we work the issue of the previous consultation.
01:12It's a right in the subject of the consultation, but in the end they say that no.
01:16That the community doesn't want to advance on that.
01:23And please respect us.
01:24It has been difficult.
01:25It has been difficult because some communities have accompanied
01:30in the media cautelares and we have been in Washington
01:34putting the CDH in knowledge about the vulnerability of the rights
01:38with this type of hydrocarbures to the territories.
01:42And it has been difficult, but thanks to God,
01:46the spirituality and we welcome to the legal tools
01:49that we can give our hands to be able to detain
01:52this machinery that comes to our territory.
01:57A 60 USD per barrel and with a tendency to rise,
02:01the oil market is very attractive in the middle of a economic recovery
02:06after one of the worst crises that the world has experienced
02:08due to the pandemic.
02:10But that growth of the oil market also puts in evidence
02:14the balance that the indigenous peoples of Colombia
02:17exige when the exploration and explotation petrol arrive
02:21to their territories.
02:24In the water, it is contaminated and outside of that,
02:29it is also taken out of the river material,
02:32and that also makes it that it is going to be derrumbed,
02:39because the river has been taken out of the river,
02:46so it is going to change its course.
02:49So, that has been quite complex, because they are not found
02:55the foods, the fruits that are consumed,
03:01they are also lost in the forest,
03:05they are degrading the territory,
03:07and then there is no way to remain,
03:11how to survive in that small space,
03:17because the territories are quite small,
03:22in which day to day they are advancing,
03:25when they come to the oil market,
03:29they are not aware of the community,
03:33they are not aware of how to remain,
03:39so that the community remains,
03:40so that they continue to strengthen and not disappear.
03:44The reality does not change in the Inga,
03:47in the Putumayo.
03:48The inconformity that we have,
03:50as a resguard here,
03:54as a people of Inga,
03:55has been about the companies,
03:57that they have always been talking about,
04:01they have been atropellating,
04:02vulnerating our rights,
04:04as a people ancestral,
04:05here in the Department of the Putumayo,
04:08as you can see,
04:09we are not only a people of Inga,
04:11we are 15 people asentados here in the Department.
04:16The translape,
04:17which is when a petrol bloke goes above the resguard,
04:20is generating conflictivity in the country
04:23because they end up facing two very distant visions.
04:27On the one hand,
04:28the company or the government itself
04:29which impulses the oil activities
04:31with a economic vision.
04:33On the other hand,
04:35the of the resguard,
04:36there is the vision of the need
04:38to protect these spaces
04:39that, as I say,
04:41are the ecosystems
04:42where the human beings live,
04:44the human beings,
04:45the human beings,
04:46the nature and,
04:47in many cases,
04:48are catalogated
04:49spaces sagrados.
04:51That's where the conflictivity is.
04:54In the Department of the Putumayo,
04:57the petroleras
04:58are acting in bad shape
04:59have come to some communities
05:01in a direct way.
05:03We, as an organization
05:04of the indigenous indigenous
05:05of the Putumayo,
05:06we are doing the accompaniment
05:08and we are encouraging
05:11that it should not be like that.
05:13It is to say,
05:13always acting in the consultations
05:14of good faith.
05:15But,
05:16the companies always want to
05:18get directly to that.
05:19And, as you know,
05:20when there is no
05:21a structure of leadership,
05:23the resources
05:24and the needs
05:26that the communities have
05:29make it
05:29that, well,
05:30they start to advance.
05:31But, when there is
05:32the accompaniment
05:32of the organizations
05:34of the National
05:34and the OPIA
05:35and the Department
05:36of the OSID,
05:39we have detained.
05:40And we have detained
05:41several,
05:42making them understand
05:43the communities
05:45that the companies
05:47are acting
05:47in bad faith.
05:48And so,
05:49they have taken
05:50and the grandparents
05:51have said it.
05:52So,
05:53there have been cases,
05:55there have been
05:56several cases
05:58that the companies
05:59have been called directly
06:01in bad faith.
06:02some governments
06:03have been told
06:04some governments
06:06who are leading
06:07in their communities
06:08and things
06:09should not be like that,
06:10but we,
06:11the leaders
06:12that are in front,
06:13we have taken
06:14that action
06:16of bad faith
06:16with the companies.
06:21The voice
06:22of the Inga
06:23also has noticed
06:24with concern
06:25because,
06:26first,
06:27they are talking
06:28about the
06:28security
06:29of the community.
06:34The presence
06:35of the multinational
06:36for us,
06:37for the people
06:38of Inga,
06:38has been a sadness.
06:40First of all,
06:43we have no
06:43peace
06:44to ingress
06:45to them,
06:46right?
06:46No,
06:48there is no
06:48peace
06:48to the people,
06:51they are
06:51in the
06:53It's a risk
06:54of life
06:55to the adult.
06:57So,
06:58as communities,
06:59as a guard,
07:01we
07:01don't allow us
07:03to come
07:04to the
07:05people
07:05of our
07:06territories.
07:08And if we
07:09talk about
07:09impact,
07:10what are we
07:10to say?
07:12What are we going to have?
07:13The big impact
07:14will be
07:14spiritual,
07:16corporally
07:16and physically.
07:18For us,
07:19people,
07:20human beings,
07:24animals,
07:24plants
07:24and all
07:25the living
07:25that we need,
07:26the life of the water.
07:28If there is
07:29contaminated,
07:30we will also
07:31disappear
07:32because we will not
07:32be able to
07:33take that water
07:33with confidence.
07:34And the plant
07:35also,
07:36the little animal
07:37will die,
07:38the pees
07:39will die,
07:40they will die.
07:41So,
07:42it's a great impact.
07:44The government
07:45ensures that
07:45the processes
07:46be followed
07:47according to the law
07:48through tools
07:50such as
07:50the previous consultations
07:52against communities.
08:05the
08:06communities
08:06indígenas
08:07aseguran
08:08that the
08:08sector
08:09is affecting
08:11the
08:12spirituality
08:12of the communities,
08:14that there is
08:15a lack of
08:16knowledge
08:16by the government
08:18of its cultural processes.
08:20But,
08:21beyond the opinion
08:22of the two parties,
08:23what is
08:24the vision
08:24of those who have
08:25investigated this
08:27reality?
08:30The government
08:31and companies
08:33are not
08:33doing
08:35the mistakes
08:36or the judicial
08:37processes
08:38against the
08:39protection of
08:40many of these
08:41spaces
08:41for the
08:42mineral activity.
08:45What has
08:46been doing
08:47the community,
08:49the indigenous peoples
08:50in general,
08:51is,
08:51one of the
08:52more measures
08:53to protect
08:55their rights
08:56other than
08:57public
08:58like
08:58the
08:59impacts
09:00that are
09:01happening
09:02on these
09:03territories.
09:04They have also
09:05had to take
09:05ways,
09:06such as
09:08movements
09:08to be able
09:10to prevent
09:11these
09:12factors
09:12that are
09:13amenazating
09:14their lives
09:16in these territories.
09:20Just
09:20the
09:20National
09:21of
09:22Committee
09:22of
09:22Anla
09:23announced
09:24that
09:242022
09:26to
09:27the
09:30petroleras
09:32presentation
09:32of
09:33measures
09:33of
09:33the
09:33climate
09:34to
09:34change
09:35climate
09:35to
09:36the
09:36climate
09:39infrastructure
09:40energy
09:45and
09:46infrastructure
09:47include
09:48these
09:48measures
09:49in their
09:49control
09:49so
09:51the
09:52balance
09:52seems to
09:53to
09:53protect
09:54the
09:54ecosystem
09:55to
09:56protect
09:58ecosystems.
10:01that
10:02that
10:02we
10:04as
10:04indigenous
10:05want to
10:06remain
10:07in the
10:08territory
10:08and
10:09salvaguard
10:10our
10:10lives,
10:11our
10:11products,
10:13our
10:13culture,
10:14that
10:14is
10:15obvious
10:17because
10:20we
10:21need
10:23resources
10:24disponibles.
10:26If
10:26the
10:26Indian
10:30will
10:31die
10:31only
10:32the
10:32black
10:33and
10:35black
10:35and
10:35the
10:36water
10:36is
10:40part
10:41of
10:41life.
10:42It
10:43is
10:43sacred
10:43where
10:44the
10:44children
10:45bath
10:45bath
10:46and
10:46the
10:46people
10:47are
10:47bath
10:47and
10:47the
10:48money
10:48are
10:56living.
10:58It's
10:58about
10:59inclusion,
11:00but
11:01there are
11:02more
11:02radicals,
11:04like Fernando
11:05Piagüe,
11:06who speaks
11:07with
11:07confidence
11:08to
11:10the
11:1115
11:11people
11:12of
11:12Putumayo.
11:13No,
11:14definitivamente
11:15nosotros
11:15el mensaje
11:16es claro,
11:17el mensaje
11:19es que
11:20en el departamento
11:21del Putumayo
11:22las comunidades
11:24que están
11:25en la ribera
11:27es claro
11:28el mensaje,
11:28es decir,
11:29no,
11:29no aceptamos
11:30de ninguna manera
11:32el tema
11:33que lleguen
11:34a sacar nuestra riqueza
11:36en nuestro territorio
11:37y pues
11:38si se hace
11:39el derecho
11:40ha hecho la consulta
11:40previa,
11:41pero eso no quiere decir
11:42que nosotros vamos a decir
11:43que sí,
11:45al final
11:46el mensaje
11:46es claro
11:47que no se puede
11:48independientemente
11:49de las cosas
11:49que sean.
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