00:00you have an air runway but you don't have aircraft what is the runway doing yeah
00:04you're locating the runway good but no aircrafts what is the airport good move so you have an open
00:09urinal where you can't go within 100 meters of that urinal because of the sting forget about
00:14using it uh you know these days especially on instagram we see a lot of reels regarding civic
00:21sense even uh we also have seen a report called you know where they have mentioned how's the
00:27indian's civic sense is there it's not good actually how do you see civic sense actually
00:33affects this whole motive of csr and all that see i first of all i'm not on the instagram but
00:40i know
00:41what you're talking about right so let me give you an example again uh the government constructs
00:51urban toilets right i'm talking about the non-sulab non-maintained non-managed toilets urinals
00:57where we don't have to pay anything yeah you don't want to pay anything you must have seen
01:01those yeah standing urinals for uh men especially i think that also needs a yeah serious relook
01:07because uh you know women with a population as equal as men in india we don't have sufficient
01:13sanitation facilities for women and we work in this space so therefore i'm telling about it let's
01:18take the example of delhi we're sitting in delhi let's take the example of delhi google has mapped
01:22all i think google has mapped and all other maps have also mapped such toilets complexes and urinals
01:29at places if you go to any urinal today in delhi be honest in this conversation and tell me how
01:35many
01:35people use it not because they don't want to use it now there is a basic lack of civic sense
01:41that is
01:41fine so one is civic sense and one is enforcement now if you go to those urinals i can guarantee
01:49you
01:49today 70 percent of those urinals won't have continuous water supply unlike the urinals that
01:55you use in the airport which are like state of the art yeah right because it is customized to be
02:01built for the a league of the society right right so uh they don't have water supply or when it
02:09was
02:09started and inaugurated the water supply was there after that nobody so you would see all sorts of
02:15fluids flowing out of that and causing stink uh people would not go and in fact on the contrary
02:22you would actually see people urinating on the wall of it from the outside yeah which creates more
02:27problems a csr normally if i would be ready to invest my capital in something like this
02:35say for example a sanitary wear company comes into existence and says okay what we will do is we
02:41take the entire uh open urinals of east delhi or west delhi or any one segment deploy capital put our
02:50supplies of water the government has prepared an infrastructure we will be responsible maintaining
02:54it you must have seen a lot of parks roundabouts where it's written that this park is maintained by so
03:00and so company right right let's do it with units you can use your own sanitary wear so i would
03:08say i don't know how much of this is marketing but you can use your own
03:11sanitary places you can write that this is managed by so and so company you can give a 24 hour
03:17water
03:18supply keep the area clean design it in a certain way i can tell you about 50 to 60 percent
03:24tectonic shift
03:26will happen on the behavioral side of the people they would want to go in right the other 50 percent
03:33is
03:33based on awareness i think the initial burst of such a campaign run by the prime minister was a brilliant
03:39campaign
03:40right was a brilliant campaign i don't know where it lost the steam but i think that should have continued
03:47till date with full vigor and force look at cities like indore
03:53why is it getting the clean city award year after year year after year that means the local agencies and
03:59the private
03:59companies are getting together to bring some change why is delhi not getting that reward why is other
04:05cities not getting that reward so i think civic sense needs investment but also awareness
04:13if you get these two i think a lot of this will
04:19sort out i think a very localized i give you a very localized example because we see it every day
04:24but so many localized four companies take care of southeast west and not delhi you see the entire
04:31delhi open urinal structure changing and it won't require crores and crores of rupees it would just
04:37require consistent support and monitoring that's it you you you tag it in google and any other maps but
04:44if it is not usable what good does the map do right you have an air runway but you don't
04:51have aircraft
04:51what is the runway doing yeah you're locating the runway good but no aircraft what is the airport
04:57good mean so you have an open urinal where you can't go within 100 meters of that urinal because
05:02of the stink forget about using it so if we can resolve that issue very locally with a local company
05:09and put an ad this is managed by like the way they do in parks and you manage it you
05:14see how
05:15transformation happens and then start awareness campaigns that's how that's how cities like indor
05:22have become the cleanest cities in india
