00:00When all the violence started here in Puerto del Río, I already lived here in Puerto del Río.
00:06That was something very hard.
00:09But my daughter, so is life.
00:13So is life.
00:15And of the NNs, I didn't know much,
00:22because one thought that everyone had their family here.
00:33Always, when the pescadores recoged,
00:37they brought them here.
00:42And here, when the sepulteros enterraban,
00:46that was when the person went to the bóveda
00:48and chose their NNs.
00:52But the people, no, no.
00:54No, no, no, no.
00:56Nadie puede decir que yo iba a la orilla del río
00:59o yo lo cogí en el...
01:00Nunca.
01:01Eso sería falso.
01:03Siempre estas personitas que llegaban a guagua,
01:05las cogían, eran los pescadores.
01:08¿Qué es la NNs?
01:17Yo ya venía y les rezaba a todos.
01:19Ya sabía que eran NNs,
01:21que eran personas que estaban solitas.
01:23Ya uno les rezaba a ellas.
01:24Si yo tocara tumbas,
01:26más no...
01:27No tenía uno así en especial.
01:30Hasta que adopté aquel.
01:33Eh... John Jairo.
01:34Yo le coloqué el nombre de mi hijo.
01:39Porque yo...
01:40Yo le decía a esta personita.
01:43Yo te voy a adoptar y te voy a colocar el nombre de mi hijo
01:46como si te bautizara de nuevo.
01:50Te haría con...
01:52O sea, yo...
01:53En ese momento sentí que yo lo bautizaba.
01:57Pero el nombre que yo le coloqué fue el de mi hijo,
02:00el que está desaparecido.
02:03Y yo le pedí mucho que cuidara a mi hijo donde estaba,
02:06que no me dejara pasar nada,
02:07que no me lo fueran a matar,
02:09que no le fuera a suceder nada donde estaba,
02:12porque...
02:12En ese momento él estaba lejos
02:14y yo estaba aquí en el pueblo
02:16cuidando de otros.
02:18Entonces...
02:19A mí se me hacía duro saber que no podía ir a cuidarlo a él.
02:23Una amiga me invitó, caminábamos al cementerio.
02:26Y visitamos ese pabellón.
02:28Yo pues vi todo lo que sucedía ahí.
02:32Entonces había uno que no había sido escogido.
02:35Y le pedí...
02:38Y le dije que...
02:40Si me concedía lo que yo le estaba pidiendo,
02:43yo me comprometía a sacarlo de ahí y lo traía para un osario.
02:48No, yo le pedí solamente un mero favor.
02:52Un mero favor le pedí.
02:54Y...
02:56Y empezó a concederse.
02:58Empezó a concederse.
03:00Entonces yo ya empecé a pagar, a pagar.
03:03Llevaba la plata del osario.
03:05Y ya cuando ya terminé de pagar,
03:07fue que me dieron mi carnet cuando ya lo sacamos.
03:09¿Eso sí le cumplió?
03:10Sí, me cumplió.
03:12Sí, me cumplió.
03:13Porque es que una vez se ven situaciones...
03:14Y fue más bien una situación económica.
03:17Fue económica.
03:18No fue ninguna otra cosa sino económica.
03:20Es más, en ese osario no hay uno solo.
03:24Hay dos.
03:25Porque el sepultor nos dijo, aquí cabe otro más
03:27y ahí hay muchos que llevan para la fosa comunesa.
03:30Entonces lo hicimos.
03:31¿Qué pasa en este momento?
03:32Que el...
03:33Yo tengo mi carnet de propiedad.
03:37Pero...
03:38El nombre que yo le puse a ese NN no me aparece ahí.
03:43Aparece...
03:43Aparece con otro nombre.
03:46Que...
03:46Hay muchos NNs.
03:48Tienen nomás.
03:49Dice NN.
03:51No tiene la plaquita con el nombre.
03:55Pues yo tengo la esperanza de que en esos que nomás dice NN
03:58que no le pusieron la placa con el nombre,
04:01se encuentra el mío.
04:12El sacerdote en este momento no he podido hablar con él.
04:15Y él...
04:16No sé qué nos irá a decir él.
04:17Pero mañana que tenemos aquí un...
04:21Un acto simbólico.
04:23Esperemos que él esté aquí para hablar con él a ver qué nos va a decir.
04:51Mi nombre es...
04:53Hugo Hernán Montoya Gómez.
04:55Voy para 22 años de ser el animero de este municipio.
05:00Soy pescador también.
05:02Me he visto para hogarme en el río.
05:05Una vez me fui a pescar con las botas.
05:08Al caer al agua, las botas se me llenan de agua y...
05:11¿Cómo hago para subir?
05:14Y yo sentí que me jalaron una bota.
05:19Entonces yo me dejé hundir y me apoyé.
05:24Y salí.
05:26Cuando salí, la canoa estaba al pie mío.
05:30Me la pagué a la canoa.
05:33¿Entiendes?
05:34¿Entiendes?
05:34¡Hum!
05:34Una mano que lo...
05:36Lo largamos en ese canto mano hondo.
05:38Y usted con esas botas.
05:40¿Entiendes?
05:41Ya nos íbamos a tirar a buscarlo.
05:47Entonces...
05:48Ellas...
05:49Me han librado de muchas.
05:56Entonces...
05:57Cuando ya me he visto...
05:59Yo les toco la campana.
06:00Que ellas ya saben...
06:02Que llevamos espada adentro.
06:05Cojan velones...
06:07Préndalos.
06:08No se los vayan a llevar.
06:12Cuando yo empiezo ahí...
06:14Yo les llamo la atención a la gente.
06:16Antes de empezar.
06:17¿Cierto?
06:20Aquella persona...
06:22Que no tenga fe en las almas del purgatorio.
06:25Que no crea en ellas.
06:29No me sigan.
06:30No me sigan.
06:32¿Por qué?
06:33Porque yo digo recocha.
06:35Una vez...
06:37Le llamo la atención.
06:39Dos veces...
06:40Le llamo la atención.
06:42A la tercera vez...
06:43No les digo nada.
06:46¿Qué hago a la tercera vez?
06:47Me devuelvo.
06:50Para el cementerio.
06:52Para el cementerio.
06:55Ave Marías.
06:57Y el recorrido que me falte para ellas.
07:00Que las almas benditas se las cobre a los que...
07:03Me hicieron devolver.
07:04El recorrido.
07:08Invitamos a todas las personas...
07:10A seguir a Ganimero.
07:12Y acompañarnos en este ritual.
07:15¡Oh Padre nuestro!
07:19Cloudmán應該 de...
07:23Le llamo la atención.
07:29Le llamo la atención.
07:31Tiene presence of portalmán,
07:32seguridad,
07:33portrayed.
07:34I love you, I love you, I love you.
07:41I love you, I love you, I love you.
07:50I love you.
07:51Because there's a lot of people here who have fought here,
07:56who come and I've seen them withdrawing these evidences.
08:08They don't take away those evidences,
08:14because without those evidences we don't know where they are.
08:20And they put them out to localize them.
08:30They move because, according to the culture here,
08:33there are people who adopt them and want to pass them to a better place.
08:39All this movement affects the traceability of the body,
08:44to say when they came, who brought them,
08:47where they were, where they were, where they were,
08:49where they were, where they were.
08:56What was the case for the peace?
09:02The Special Education for the Peace
09:05decreto a measures of protection
09:07on several places in this cemetery
09:10that dictated that they were in danger.
09:14So, the first thing we did was to cover the custodian
09:17that were two custodian,
09:19where there were many people in bags,
09:22they were going to be in danger.
09:24Now we are in the second stage,
09:28established by the jurisdiction,
09:30and it's the stage of the boughs,
09:32of three buildings,
09:34where there are bodies without identified,
09:38that have been, according to the characteristics,
09:42established as, probably,
09:45corresponding to the people who disappeared.
09:47As it is probable,
09:49part of what we are doing now
09:50is to take the bodies from the places,
09:54the identified bodies,
09:56to review them,
09:57to do a forensic forensic examination
10:00to determine if the bodies
10:02present characteristics
10:03that are consistent with persons
10:05given by desaparecida,
10:06or bodies that can be consistent.
10:09And, from that,
10:10there will be a number of bodies
10:13that we can't say,
10:14in this moment,
10:15how many can they be,
10:16that they can bring them
10:18to the legal medicine
10:19for their corresponding identification.
10:22We have been developing
10:24a very concrete strategy
10:25in this territory,
10:27and it's to give them
10:29to those who have adopted them.
10:31It's to say,
10:32it's to say,
10:33it's to say,
10:34these bodies are not identified
10:35and can be disappeared,
10:37but to listen to them.
10:39What they have done
10:40is to contribute
10:40to preserve them.
10:42And,
10:43to preserve a body
10:44is to give them
10:45the opportunity
10:45to a family
10:46to find their beloved body.
10:48So,
10:49here,
10:49it's not only
10:50the family that they seek,
10:52but the people
10:53who have adopted them,
10:55the animal,
10:56the animal,
10:57which makes
10:57a harmonization
10:59of the state
11:00of the alms
11:01and of the protection
11:02of the alms,
11:03but also the church
11:04that manages this place.
11:19For me,
11:19this is very gratifying,
11:21because it is
11:22that there are many families
11:24between them,
11:25looking for a loved one,
11:27looking for a loved one,
11:28as it can be from here,
11:29as it can be from here,
11:30as it can be from other places.
11:31But,
11:32in all the country,
11:34in Colombia,
11:34there are people
11:34looking for their
11:36families
11:37who are lost.
11:38Many because they have
11:39come from other parts,
11:41from other parts,
11:41from Puerto Berrillo.
11:43One doesn't know.
11:44So,
11:45if he comes to where he has come,
11:48he has also got a family.
11:50And,
11:50for me,
11:51it would be very good
11:52that the SNN
11:54finds their family
11:56here,
11:56in Puerto Berrillo.
11:58Let's say,
11:59I've heard a word
12:00that is a limbo,
12:01that we are not here
12:02or there.
12:05That's how we are now
12:06when we have
12:07our families
12:07that we have
12:09That,
12:10that,
12:10that,
12:11that,
12:11that,
12:11that,
12:11that,
12:11that,
12:13that,
12:13that,
12:13that,
12:23it
12:24I had no sense
12:27of time.
12:29There are days
12:31that I realize
12:32that of us
12:32like,
12:33that.
12:33that I think
12:36that the last few days
12:39that we haveare
12:39that,
12:40should be they are
12:42coming to life,
12:42that the faith
12:44is how
12:45that it is verdict?
12:52that I have been like, that they can be dead.
13:07Yes, and I ask for them a lot, because I say that in some part, if they are like NN,
13:14another person can be, sorry, can be taken care of the ones I have.
13:26Yes, this is something very, very hard.
13:53I'm happy to be.
13:53Yes, I'm happy to be.
13:54If I have people like NNN, then I'll stop.
13:54No one has to be.
13:55No, no one has to be.
14:04I am happy to be.
14:05I am happy to be.
14:05I love you.
14:07I love you, brother.
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