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00:15Welcome to the Kelly Clarkson Show, y'all.
00:17Over seven seasons, we've done hundreds of Kelly Oki's.
00:20I feel like more.
00:22Sometimes it's nice to revisit our favorites.
00:24So today we are getting started with a Kelly Oki encore.
00:26Here's me and my band, y'all, with Say It Ain't So by Weezer.
01:01If I'm battling, wrestle and jamming, something is bubbling behind my back.
01:14The bottom is ready to go.
01:23Say It Ain't So by Weezer.
01:35Say It Ain't So by Weezer.
01:42So life to go.
01:46Dear Daddy, I write to inspire the years of silence.
01:53You cleaned up, found Jesus.
01:56Things are good also, I hear.
01:59This bottle of Stephen's awakens ancient obedience.
02:05Like father, stepfather, the sun is drowning in the blood.
02:12God, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:20Say It Ain't So by Weezer.
02:32Say It Ain't So by Weezer.
02:39It's a life to go.
02:45It's a life to go.
02:48Oh, it's so good.
02:52Give it up for my band, y'all.
02:55Say It Ain't So.
02:56Hello.
02:57That was Patrick and Rivers joining us from Weezer.
03:00That was one of my personal favorites.
03:01I chose it today because it's a special day for me, y'all.
03:05It's my birthday.
03:06I turned 43.
03:08Nice, even number.
03:10I like even numbers.
03:12But I don't like the spotlight on me too much.
03:14So I have a surprise for all of you instead.
03:16Joe, I'm going to need some help with this.
03:18Open the doors.
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04:02We also want you to have something for you.
04:05We love celebrating birthdays on our flights.
04:07So we brought a crown just for you.
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04:13Happy birthday.
04:14Okay, wait.
04:15I'm going to put my crown on it.
04:16Wait.
04:17Is it there?
04:17Okay.
04:18I feel like...
04:19You know what?
04:20It's going to be crooked.
04:25No, thank you to our friends at Southwest.
04:26Y'all give it up.
04:33It's time to get to our first guest out here, though.
04:36She is a Critics' Choice nominated actress known for her work
04:38and You're the Worst.
04:40And you also know her from hit shows like Welcome to Flatch and The Boys.
04:44He has been honored with six Emmys, two Golden Globes, two Tonys,
04:47and a pair of Oscar nominations.
04:49You've seen him in so many greats from The World According to Gartt to Conclave.
04:53Together they now star on Broadway in Giant.
04:55It's playing at the Music Box Theater here in New York City.
04:58Please welcome Aya Cash and John Lithgow.
05:30Welcome.
05:31I had to put my crown.
05:31I think there's too much weave.
05:33It won't fit.
05:34It's totally not my hair.
05:36Happy birthday.
05:36Oh, thank you.
05:37Thank you very much.
05:38I know, 44.
05:39Feels crazy.
05:40Getting older.
05:40You don't feel older, but you are.
05:42Yes.
05:42Remember this conversation when you turn 80, dear.
05:45I know.
05:46You know what, though?
05:47It's a blessing, I think, to age.
05:49Not everybody gets to.
05:50So I'm actually very...
05:50I'm not one of those people that worries about the number or anything.
05:53I think it's...
05:54It sounds cheesy, but it's like not everybody gets to make it to these years,
05:57so it's a beautiful thing to be able to do that.
05:59So I love spending it with y'all.
06:01Actually, I hear you're in Montana a lot, right?
06:03Well, whenever I can.
06:05Yeah.
06:05My wife Mary's from Montana, and we have a little cabin on a lake,
06:09so that's where we go to disappear.
06:11That's where I go to disappear.
06:13I love it.
06:14You know it's a beautiful street.
06:15Isn't it just wonderful to check out there, like, mentally,
06:18and actually just relax and do things that you never do anywhere else?
06:21I never did until I...
06:23We got...
06:23That's where I first rode a horse, water skied, sailed, and so forth.
06:28Yeah.
06:28It's like a two-person summer camp.
06:31I know, I love it.
06:32It's wonderful.
06:33I love it.
06:33I'm glad you have that.
06:34And you grew up in California, right?
06:36But you're here now, right?
06:38Yes.
06:39I grew up in San Francisco.
06:40Which do you like better?
06:41Ooh, I like San Francisco.
06:42I do, too.
06:43Yeah, that's great food.
06:44Yeah.
06:45Great food, great everything.
06:46Yes.
06:47What do you like better?
06:48New York.
06:50I will say, I had the most magical night last night, too,
06:53because we had the longest winter, and we went to dinner
06:54and just walked around the city in, like, the West Village area.
06:57It was like, oh, this is like a movie.
06:58You earn your life in New York.
07:00Yes.
07:00You feel like you've accomplished something just by getting through your day,
07:03and when that sun comes out after the winter, you're like...
07:06Everyone's out.
07:07Freedom.
07:08It's like, it's literally like a sea of people.
07:11You're like, where were all these people in wintertime?
07:14And, like, everybody comes out because the sun's out.
07:16The parks are completely full of half-necked people.
07:19It's amazing.
07:19I love it.
07:20Incredible.
07:20It's awesome.
07:22You got your acting start on the New York stage.
07:24Is this your first time on Broadway?
07:26Yes.
07:27This is my first time on Broadway.
07:28That's a huge deal, yeah.
07:29Congrats.
07:30No, that's okay.
07:30You're welcome.
07:32That's awesome.
07:33Stop.
07:34Stop.
07:35That's awesome.
07:36We'll edit that so it looks like they just spun paintings.
07:39Yes, spun paintings.
07:40We're so excited, yes.
07:41Yeah, no, it's great.
07:42I started in New York theater off-Broadway.
07:45I did regional theater for many years.
07:47Yeah.
07:47So to get to finally come to Broadway with this incredible creature...
07:53No one's heard of him.
07:54Yeah, that's incredible.
07:55Yeah, that's like an incredible person to be able to stage with as well.
07:58How did the role in Giant come about to you?
08:01How did...
08:01You were friends, right?
08:02The script came to me directly from our director, Nick Heitner, who's an old friend of mine.
08:07I had done my first musical on Broadway with Nick back in 2002, Sweet Smell of Success.
08:14Yeah.
08:15And it was twice the length that it is now.
08:20It was a...
08:21It's Mark Rosenblatt's very first play.
08:24And he and Nick worked on it for about three years before I even saw it.
08:31Hmm.
08:32It's a play about Roald Dahl, and I am...
08:35I'm not proud of this nor pleased, but I look very much like him.
08:39Yeah.
08:40He was very tall, very bald, and very old, so here I am.
08:45Uh, and...
08:46This is like...
08:48You're playing such a pivotal guy in a lot of our...
08:50Like, that's like...
08:51Like, Matilda changed my life when I was a kid.
08:54Mm-hmm.
08:54Like, those books, there's certain...
08:55James Leonard Peach, all these...
08:56He's such a, just, world-renowned author.
08:59Like, that's a...
08:59I didn't know much about him, though, privately, which was kind of...
09:03Did that rent it for you?
09:03Were you a fan of Roald Dahl growing up?
09:05And then you were like, wait, what?
09:06Oh, I didn't know anything about the controversy until I read this script.
09:11I feel like I just missed that whole thing.
09:14Yeah.
09:15And, um, so it was shocking to me.
09:17But, you know, it doesn't ruin it for me.
09:19I still can hold both.
09:21I mean, I think what this play does so beautifully is allow you to hold paradox,
09:25which is something that is not typical in our culture these days.
09:28Yeah.
09:28The two truths can be...
09:30Existing.
09:31...true, exist at the same time.
09:32Yeah.
09:32And so, um, I can hold both who he was and his problematic views
09:38and, uh, the beautiful art he made.
09:40Yeah.
09:41Yeah.
09:41Oh, great storyteller.
09:43Let's take a quick commercial break.
09:44We have an audience member who can help us out.
09:46Hi, Kelly.
09:47I'm Meg, and I'm a huge Broadway fan.
09:51Growing up, I'd put on living room productions of Jesus Christ Superstar for my family.
09:56I always cast myself as King Herod because he had the best dance numbers.
10:01John and Aya, I can't wait to see Giant.
10:05It looks spectacular.
10:07More with Kelly, John, and Aya after the break.
10:21We are back with Ajax and John this day.
10:26We can see them in Giant playing now at the Music Box Theater in New York City.
10:30It's a magical theater, by the way, too, the Music Box.
10:32Yeah, what a cool place to do a show.
10:34Um, and come see a show, by the way.
10:36Uh, but you both performed this in London as well.
10:39So which audience was, I'm gonna guess America is crazier, right?
10:42A little more loud?
10:44They're more animated.
10:45Oh, that's nice.
10:46Yes.
10:46That's a very nice way.
10:47The lights go up and they applaud.
10:48Yeah.
10:48And they applaud the set, you know.
10:50Uh-huh.
10:50That's kind of exciting, though, to play, because sometimes whenever I'm playing a show,
10:53and in certain parts in the world, people are very respectful.
10:56Uh-huh.
10:56But I'm always like, are they liking it?
10:59Like, I was like, you know, because I'm so American, and I'm used to just people right
11:02off the gate just being excited and stoked to be there or whatever.
11:04Yeah, people voice their opinions, sometimes during the show at me.
11:08Yeah.
11:09Oh, my God.
11:10Does that ever distract you?
11:11Yeah.
11:12I mean, it's, I kind of love, and I love hate with it, because it's jarring, because
11:18it feels scary, because you don't know what, you can't really understand what people are
11:22saying or their intent.
11:24Yeah.
11:24But I also feel like if art moves you, what an amazing thing that people are so moved
11:31that they vocalize.
11:32Yeah.
11:32So, I have both.
11:33Yeah.
11:34It always distracts me.
11:35It's like, if I'm on the road, and I, and people write signs or something, I'll start
11:38reading it, and they'll be like, where was I?
11:40I'm like, I'm like, I'll remember, I'll forget like where I was in the song or something
11:43like that.
11:44It actually supercharges Aya after it happens.
11:47She's, she's, she's like fire.
11:49Yeah.
11:49She catches fire.
11:50Yeah, sometimes I'm like, shut up and listen.
11:53I command this.
11:54I love this.
11:55I heard that your wife never went to anything on like film, film sets or anything, but she,
11:59she's come to this show quite a bit, right?
12:01Well, my wife is a professor.
12:02Yeah.
12:03She's not in our show business, and she doesn't understand what I do.
12:07That's pretty sexy.
12:08You got a professor as a wife?
12:10She can't, she can't, she can't stand seeing me be somebody else.
12:14Oh.
12:14So she just doesn't like to come and watch the process.
12:18Oh.
12:18She's, she's perfectly happy with coming and seeing me act.
12:22Yeah.
12:22And she's a very demanding critic.
12:25Yeah.
12:25Yeah.
12:25I rely on her.
12:27Yeah.
12:28She doesn't, she, she, when I first met her, the first job, I simply had a false mustache
12:34and that alarmed her.
12:36The next time she came to visit the movie set of World According to Garp when I was playing
12:42a woman and I was completely in drag and she was completely floored.
12:48I was like, somehow we've survived for 45 years of marriage.
12:52Oh my God.
12:52Because you're entertaining as hell.
12:54That's awesome.
12:54You show up in your house and you're like, all right, this is new, but okay.
12:58She just doesn't understand.
12:59And I don't understand a word she says.
13:01Yeah.
13:01So it works perfectly.
13:02I love it.
13:03That's really cool though.
13:04Professor.
13:05All right.
13:05Is it true that I heard an old girlfriend came to the show too recently.
13:09Yes.
13:09Like years ago.
13:10So word has gotten out.
13:12Yes.
13:12Yes.
13:13A girlfriend from my junior year of high school.
13:16It was absolutely what I, the last time I saw her was graduation day in 1963.
13:22That's cool.
13:23And boy, there should be a play written about what happened in that dressing room.
13:28I don't know if you want to share that on TV.
13:31No.
13:31She brought an entire packet of my love letters to her.
13:37Oh.
13:37From when I was in seven, in.
13:40How goofy but cute were they?
13:42Were they goofy?
13:43I thought, who is this man?
13:45Oh.
13:46This young man.
13:47I mean, such an unbelievable romantic.
13:51That's cool.
13:52I was mortified.
13:54To be honest.
13:55Oh, no.
13:56That's like if you find something that you wrote when you were like younger and you're
13:58like, oh my God.
13:59Things were so epic.
14:01Yeah.
14:01Like something that was not that big of a deal was so epic in this moment.
14:05It's ridiculous.
14:05Put it away.
14:07Things always go wrong in shows.
14:09That's my favorite thing with live theater.
14:10You know, we have a lot of actors that do movies and TV.
14:12But at the same time, theater is so different because every night is very different and things
14:16can happen.
14:17Mishaps happen.
14:17So has anything gone like horribly wrong or right and funny?
14:22Well, we had something recently go wrong.
14:25I don't want to take John's story from him.
14:28Just two nights ago, in the course of the play, I do this about 20 times.
14:35The spectacles are a big prop for me.
14:37Yeah.
14:37The first time I took them out, they broke into two pieces.
14:42And I immediately thought, what am I going to do?
14:44The whole performance is out the window.
14:47Ah, there's a spare pair on the prop table.
14:50So I just called over Stella Everett, who plays Hallie the cook, and I handed them to
14:56her.
14:57I said, take these off stage.
14:59And I just crashed, smashed the fourth wall.
15:03And the audience loved it.
15:04You know, from that moment on, it was our best performance.
15:07I laughed on stage for the first time.
15:10He broke me for the first time since college.
15:12I have not giggled on stage.
15:14And we all had a moment.
15:17It's a very intense tone shift in the play that this happened.
15:21Oh, no.
15:22So it goes from us all breaking the fourth wall to a very intense moment.
15:28And in some ways, it really highlighted that.
15:31Because immediately, I had to go, oh!
15:35I love it.
15:36The comedy.
15:36And then that audience only got that.
15:38That's what I think is so special about seeing live shows.
15:40There's always, like, moments things happen, and it's like, oh, that only happened that
15:43night.
15:43And then Stella sneaked the glasses back on, and they noticed, and you heard the murmur.
15:48It was pure theater.
15:50Yeah.
15:51It's like they're a part of it.
15:52Have you ever had one personally, like a mishap?
15:54Yeah.
15:55The first play I did in New York, a play called Pain in the Itch at Playwrights Horizons,
15:59I was on stage saying some actually really vile, terrible things.
16:04And someone started screaming at me from the audience.
16:07Very small stage off Broadway, probably 200 seats.
16:10And she was screaming, and she was up in her seat.
16:13I could sort of see out of the corner of my eye.
16:15She was yelling.
16:18And I thought she was going to kill me.
16:21And then my mother happened to be sitting next to her, and she had come in during intermission.
16:26She was on a date.
16:27She was very drunk.
16:29And she'd only come for the second half.
16:31And she saw me on stage, and she saw herself, which is terrifying if you heard what I was
16:36saying.
16:36So she was actually clapping for me.
16:38My mother said she just, like, I started saying all this horrible stuff.
16:41And she got up.
16:41She was like, yes, girl!
16:44And so I was glad that she wasn't going to hurt me.
16:48But I was also horrified that there was someone, you know, you think you're playing
16:52these sort of bad characters or people who have really horrible...
16:55Fictitious people that don't.
16:56Yeah.
16:56And then you realize, oh, no, there's one!
17:00There she is!
17:01Oh, no!
17:03That's uncomfortable.
17:04I would have to break and be like, so are you good?
17:07Yeah.
17:08Or you mind us wrapping it up here?
17:10Yeah.
17:11Well, you think the show must go on.
17:12Unless there's, like, a health incident, I always think it's our job to keep going and
17:16to get everyone back on track, including the audience.
17:19Yeah.
17:20But obviously, yeah.
17:21That's because you're a professional.
17:22Yeah.
17:23And I'm not.
17:25No, you're more successful, so you feel free.
17:27It's not.
17:27It's like, I think people just like to laugh.
17:29I don't know.
17:30I don't know.
17:30Okay, everybody, give it up for John Lipko and Aya Cash.
17:34Go see the one giant listening out at the MusicXP on Broadway.
17:38Pick it to available online.
17:39We've got Taylor Dearden from the Twitter News.
17:41We'll hear it back.
17:55Welcome back.
17:56My next guest is part of one of the best ensembles on television right now, y'all.
18:00You know her as Dr. Mel King, the deeply sincere ER doc on the hit series The Pit.
18:05It's so good.
18:07All episodes from the first two seasons are available on HBO Max.
18:10You would have caught the collapsed lung.
18:13It may have taken a minute, but you would have saved him.
18:17I'm not sure Robbie would agree with you.
18:19He's been riding me all day.
18:22Well, Robbie's leaving for three months.
18:24And, you know, with Robbie gone, I really don't want you to leave either.
18:32That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
18:35Well, Frederick Nici.
18:38Yeah?
18:40Nici.
18:40Yeah.
18:41Not Kelly Clarkson.
18:47Stay a little, stay a little, stay a little.
18:49Stay a little.
19:08Oh, my God.
19:09I am so excited you're here.
19:12I am obsessed with this show.
19:14I mean, congratulations on being part of just an amazing ensemble, first of all.
19:18But your character is my favorite.
19:19Don't tell the others.
19:20Yes!
19:21It's because I've had a few of y'all on here, which I love everyone.
19:24But you're my favorite.
19:25And your character is neurodivergent.
19:27And was it always written that way?
19:28Kind of.
19:29It was like I picked up on it, but I feel like other people might not have.
19:34Yeah.
19:34And then I kind of asked them about it when I was cast.
19:37And they're like, yeah, we kind of wanted to at first, but then we kind of pulled back.
19:42And I was like, you're in luck, because we can do it now, because I'm also spicy.
19:46Yeah.
19:47So, yeah.
19:48I know.
19:48Wait, so you are diagnosed as ADHD?
19:50Yeah.
19:51I am, too.
19:52Yeah.
19:53But because of this, you have a huge range of hobbies, though.
19:56Oh, yeah.
19:56I love, yes.
19:58What are your fun skills that you have?
19:59Oh, man, they're so varied.
20:01Like, I do a lot of woodworking.
20:02What?
20:03Randomly.
20:03So I have a weird-shaped closet, so I kind of realized I had to make my own.
20:09Um, so I didn't do the dresser, but everything else I hand-made.
20:14Wait, what?
20:16Yeah.
20:18I love when I'm like, I crochet, I quilt, I paint.
20:22I'm like, what?
20:23I love doing physical stuff, too.
20:25No, s***.
20:27Damn.
20:28I'll make candles.
20:30Oh, okay, that's fine.
20:31Um, I, um, there's, oh, there's some candles I made.
20:34That's so cool.
20:35And then I love photography, so I started, um, there's a,
20:39a shot, oh, there we go, of the, our, um, central area with our fiercest Dana in the
20:45middle there.
20:46Yeah.
20:47Um, and, yeah, and so I just started doing literally kind of whatever I could get my
20:51hands on.
20:51I like little stuff, too, and, um, actually, I, I know it's your birthday.
20:56Yes.
20:56And so I brought, I, I like to, I whittle, I, I say I whittle a whittle.
21:00Uh, you're, um.
21:01Great, thank you.
21:02And so I made these spoons out of black walnut.
21:05You get to pick which one you want.
21:07And they're different sizes.
21:09Oh, my gosh.
21:10Jack of all trades, master of none.
21:12Wait.
21:12Oh, my God.
21:13Wait.
21:13I kind of, the, oh, my God, y'all have got to get a close-up of these.
21:16I kind of.
21:17They're so, some of them are so ridiculously itty-bitty.
21:20Here's why, because I'm going to use it for my little, I have a little, I just went to China,
21:23and I got this little set, and this is going to be for my little tiny thing.
21:25Oh, yeah.
21:26Sugar or something.
21:27I want this one.
21:28This is, you're incredibly talented, okay?
21:31Thank you so much.
21:32That's very different.
21:32I'm stealing this one.
21:33This one shall be mine.
21:35I'm putting it with my crown.
21:36Um, I want to talk about this, too, because on the show, uh, Noah Wiley, he stars in the
21:41show, but he's also a writer, and I heard that he keeps y'all in the dark.
21:44So you don't really know what's going on.
21:45Yeah, we're in the dark for pretty much the whole season.
21:48Do you hate or love it?
21:49I don't like it, just because it's kind of like, it's all one shift.
21:55It's, every episode is one hour, and so it's kind of like,
21:57okay, but if I have to make a decision in 20 minutes, I kind of need to know what the
22:02decision is and stuff, but it's funny, because, like, we'll pitch stuff to him, and he'll
22:07just be like, that works, and walk away, and we're like, no, you have to say more.
22:11You have to say more than that works.
22:13Um, and sometimes he'll just, like, um, for, for this season, he was writing an episode
22:20and goes, what do you think Mel does for fun?
22:21I was like, I think that she doesn't know, but I went, there's something about the
22:25Renaissance Fair, and he goes, done.
22:27She's a reenactor, and, like, left the room, and I was like, oh, okay, that's new.
22:32Yeah, and so it'll be, like, weird little nuggets every once in a while.
22:35By the way, have you ever done that?
22:36Have you ever done the Renaissance, anything like that?
22:38Because, man, at Central Park here, sometimes you just walk through the park, and there are
22:41people full on with swords, like, dressed up.
22:43Yes.
22:44Yeah.
22:44Is that what it's called?
22:45LARP.
22:46It's live-action roleplay, I think.
22:48LARP.
22:49Which is just, like, maybe call it live-action roleplay.
22:51Yeah, I was like, I have never heard of that.
22:53I am learning a lot, Taylor.
22:55Okay.
22:56Oh, my gosh.
22:57You're even cooler in person.
23:00I love you so much as your character, but I love that you, like, lived up to my dreams
23:04about you and so much more.
23:06You're just really rad.
23:09I do.
23:09I love you.
23:11This is the coolest thing ever.
23:14Oh.
23:15Okay, congrats on the show.
23:16We all love it.
23:17Everyone I know.
23:18It's so good.
23:19We have to take another break.
23:20All episodes of the first two seasons of The Pit are out now on HBO Max.
23:24If you haven't seen it yet, what are you doing?
23:26When we come back, actor Andrew Walker is here to talk about his new Kentucky Derby-themed
23:30movie.
23:43Welcome back.
23:45Next weekend is the 152nd running of the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs.
23:50Hallmark Channel has a new Derby-themed movie starring Andrew Walker.
23:53It's called Kentucky Roses.
23:55Oh, pals.
23:57You had a rough night, huh?
23:59How'd you know?
24:01Oh, jeez.
24:02I'm sorry.
24:03I, uh...
24:03You scared me.
24:04I couldn't resist.
24:07Um, no one's supposed to be on the property at this time of night.
24:10Yeah, I know.
24:15I'm...
24:16I'm the...
24:17the builder
24:19who's been hired to
24:21fix that.
24:24Oh.
24:24Well, looks like you have some work cut out for you.
24:30Please welcome Andrew Walker.
24:53Nice to meet you, too.
24:53I got a Purple Rain record back there.
24:57That was a score.
24:58Okay, see, I didn't know, like, which ones people would like.
25:01So, yeah, I always try to pick what...
25:02How did you know Purple Rain?
25:03Well, I always try and guess.
25:04That's so funny whenever I'm giving records away.
25:06And one more thing.
25:07Yeah.
25:0744 is my number.
25:09I didn't know you were turning 44.
25:10Oh, yeah, 44.
25:10This is, like, this is...
25:11It's a very serendipitous day.
25:13Do you know what I like?
25:14That it equals 8, and 8 is a great number.
25:168 is a great...
25:17Isn't that what they say on The Muppets?
25:18Yes.
25:198 is great.
25:20Um, you say this movie is, like, the Titanic, and why?
25:23Uh, it's a multi-generational movie.
25:26It's...
25:26It's surrounded around this necklace that we find.
25:29It's a heritage necklace that's been missing for 100 years.
25:33And, uh, it's...
25:34It's two people, two unlikely people that find each other
25:36despite coming from two completely different worlds.
25:39And, um, and so it's...
25:41We deal with the classes, the class structure,
25:44and, um, Odette, who's incredible in the movie,
25:46plays a greenhouse worker.
25:48And, uh, which I didn't know,
25:50but Churchill Downs has their own greenhouse.
25:52They have their own...
25:53It's its own city.
25:54Oh, sure.
25:55The backside has where all the horse people live.
25:58Um, there's a school.
26:00There's sports teams.
26:02There's...
26:02All in the same compound?
26:03Like, the same...
26:04Grocery store.
26:05What?
26:05It's all in the same compound
26:06in behind Churchill Downs.
26:08And they have their own greenhouse.
26:10And I play an architect
26:11who is on the other side of the tracks.
26:15Yeah.
26:15And my dad's the CEO.
26:17Yeah.
26:17And, um, I've been hired to fix a spire
26:19that's...
26:19That's been damaged in a storm.
26:22Okay.
26:22And, uh, I have two weeks.
26:24It's a...
26:24It's not a lot of time.
26:26Not a lot of time.
26:27There's a shortage of roses as well.
26:29I'm, like...
26:29Yeah.
26:30Um, so the garland of roses
26:31might not be ready for the race.
26:32Oh, that's a big deal.
26:33It's a big deal.
26:34This is pretty special
26:35for your family, though, right?
26:37Yes, it is.
26:37The Kentucky Derby.
26:37Yeah.
26:38My, um, my dad is a real traditional guy.
26:41He's, uh...
26:42He loves the, um, Rose Bowl parade.
26:44He loves big band stuff.
26:46And so, Derby Day,
26:48I would sit with him
26:49and watch the Derby.
26:51Yeah.
26:51Um, and, uh...
26:52And so I would FaceTime him.
26:54Our trailers were set up
26:56right next to the track.
26:57So, six...
26:58I'd roll in at five o'clock,
26:595.30 in the morning.
27:00Oh.
27:01And the dew would be coming off the track.
27:04Yeah, yeah.
27:04And it would be dawn.
27:05Sun's coming up.
27:06And I would FaceTime him.
27:07Everything's quiet and beautiful.
27:08Yeah.
27:08But the track...
27:09The horses would be warming up.
27:10Oh, they would?
27:11On the track.
27:11Oh.
27:11Yes, you'd hear the horses
27:12going around.
27:13I love the sound.
27:14What is that?
27:15Yeah.
27:15Oh, it's, like, no sound.
27:17And the hoof's hitting the dirt.
27:18Yeah.
27:19So, I would FaceTime him.
27:21It's like ASMR for me.
27:22I'm just, like, yeah.
27:23Yeah, exactly.
27:24Yeah, yeah.
27:24You also, you perfected a particular skill
27:26while shooting this.
27:27Was it mixing?
27:28I did, yeah.
27:30Drinking and mixing of the drinks.
27:32Okay.
27:33All right, cocktail.
27:34Was it a mint julep?
27:34It was a mint julep.
27:35Yeah.
27:36And then they have the Oaks Lily,
27:37which is on the Philly race day,
27:39which is the day before Derby.
27:41So, the 1st of May.
27:43And it's the pink race day,
27:45so they have a pink drink.
27:46Yeah.
27:47Which is vodka, triple sec,
27:50and cranberry.
27:52We've got to clap for vodka in the house.
27:55Like, okay, when someone says alcohol,
27:57oh, you drink because we're getting the drinks.
27:59That's why you're...
27:59Well, oh, Kelly, because it's your birthday,
28:02Okay.
28:03We brought out some mint juleps.
28:05Okay, let's do it.
28:06And it's...
28:06Okay.
28:0944.
28:10Which is a powerful number.
28:10Yes, it is.
28:11This is your number.
28:12Okay.
28:12Okay.
28:13I don't know if I want the straw.
28:14I feel like I'm going to get all the alcohol at the bottom.
28:16Well...
28:19Not bad.
28:20That's not bad.
28:20That's not bad.
28:21But they for sure put alcohol in it.
28:23Mm-hmm.
28:24Mm-hmm.
28:24Mm-hmm.
28:25You can see Kentucky Roses on the Hallmark Channel
28:28at 8 p.m. on May 2nd,
28:30which is the same day as the Kentucky Derby.
28:32It streams the following day on Hallmark Plus.
28:34You all got to check it out.
28:35We need a short break.
28:36I'm just going to drink this down,
28:37and when we come back,
28:38it's an update on an inspiring story
28:40I shared two years ago.
28:41Stay right here.
28:41This is...
28:53Welcome back.
28:54Two years ago,
28:55I met a brave and extraordinary young woman.
28:57She was inspired by her own childhood cancer journey
29:00to help other kids cope with their own diagnosis.
29:02She launched the Koenig Childhood Cancer Foundation,
29:05providing patients with everything from goodie bags
29:08to support, to covering medical bills.
29:10Let's welcome back Ilana, everybody.
29:12Welcome back.
29:13Like, even more grown, like a young woman.
29:16So for those who might know,
29:17kind of talk about your cancer journey
29:19and your foundation.
29:20So I was diagnosed with cancer on my eighth birthday,
29:23near my eighth birthday,
29:24and it changed the trajectory of my life.
29:28It was very impactful.
29:30I had to stay in the hospital for one and a half years
29:33at seven years old as an adolescent
29:35who should be attending school.
29:37I endured nine cycles of chemo, 15 surgeries.
29:40It was very hard.
29:42But thankfully, right now,
29:44I am almost 10 years cancer-free.
29:47Yay.
29:50And even as a child,
29:52after I finished cancer,
29:54I realized that my fight was done,
29:56but so many other kids were still in the hospital
29:59that I had made friends with,
30:00that I'd connected with,
30:01their journeys and their fights were still going on,
30:03and they were still suffering.
30:05So I started Koenig Childhood Cancer Foundation
30:07at 11 years old, still so young,
30:11because I knew that I had to make a difference
30:13in the lives of these kids.
30:15Right now, we have grown into a $3 million foundation.
30:19We've delivered 105,000 gift bags
30:22to hospitals around the world.
30:24We've helped almost 4,000 children as well,
30:27so I'm very proud of that.
30:31You're an incredible woman.
30:33You also work in tandem with Garden of Dreams, right?
30:37Tell us about that.
30:37Garden of Dreams is an organization
30:39that's been with me since
30:41almost the beginning of my treatment.
30:43They've helped my confidence.
30:45I was given the opportunity to audition for Radio City
30:49through Garden of Dreams.
30:51They gave me the opportunity to go and sing,
30:53and I loved singing at the time.
30:55It's one of my great passions,
30:56but going through cancer treatment
30:58made my confidence in my talent
31:00and my ability lessen a lot.
31:02So them giving me the chance to go on stage,
31:05even a month before,
31:07I watched the Rockettes on the same stage at Radio City.
31:10So being able to do that myself
31:11and share my voice and share my story,
31:15especially surrounded by all these other kids
31:17who had also gone through the same thing
31:18was very impactful.
31:20They've given me the chance to be awarded
31:22for my work with the foundation
31:24at a Knicks game by a former Knicks player,
31:27John Starks, which was beautiful.
31:28And even as I've started the foundation,
31:30they've given me concert tickets
31:32and other events that I can share with the kids
31:35that I've been helping.
31:36So they've been with me throughout this whole journey.
31:38That's incredible.
31:39So what's next for you?
31:40College, right?
31:41Yeah, I'm attending Cornell University,
31:43which I'm very excited.
31:45We actually, I have to show this.
31:48We have the video of what Ilana learned
31:49she got into Cornell.
31:51This is great.
31:52Oh, my God.
31:53Can you show me that?
31:54Oh, my God.
31:56I'm so good.
31:57I'm so good.
31:58I'm so good.
31:58Oh, my God.
32:00Oh, my God.
32:02Oh, my God.
32:03Oh, my God.
32:04Oh, my God.
32:04Oh, my God.
32:04Oh, my God.
32:05Oh, my God.
32:05Oh, my God.
32:06Oh, my God.
32:16It's so hard not to cry again watching it.
32:19It's so beautiful.
32:21You're so excited.
32:23Yeah.
32:23It's so nice.
32:24I've seen it already, but damn,
32:26that gets you every time, doesn't it?
32:28How do you think college is going to impact your foundation,
32:30like all your work?
32:30I'm so excited for the network at Cornell,
32:33for the people that I'm going to meet.
32:35There's so many new hospitals over there
32:36that I'm going to make an impact on as well.
32:39I'm just so excited for, like, the people, the professors.
32:42It's known for being very big and having a lot of extracurriculars,
32:45a lot of people from all around the world,
32:47and I definitely plan to grow my foundation.
32:49I definitely, I don't want to stop as I move locations.
32:51I want to grow bigger.
32:53It may be my birthday, but I want to celebrate you.
32:56We want to celebrate you.
32:57Every year, the Garden of Dreams awards 20 college-bound young people,
33:00big scholarships, and they are so inspired by all your hard work
33:03and how you turned adversity into opportunity.
33:05So they're going to give you a $60,000 scholarship for Cornell.
33:09Which is so exciting!
33:13Oh, my goodness.
33:14Thank you so much.
33:16Yes.
33:17A lot of people believe in you,
33:18and you're doing a lot for other people as well.
33:19You have such a great heart.
33:20You're such an amazing young woman.
33:22I cannot wait to see what you do next.
33:23Just please don't send me cry videos.
33:25Oh, my God.
33:26I won't make it.
33:27We'll be right back, y'all,
33:28with a performance from actress and vocalist Leslie Grace.
33:31Stay right here.
34:01Go ahead.
34:01Give it up for Leslie Grace.
34:03Oh, hey, Mary.
34:05Thank you so much for having us.
34:06This is Queen Anne.
34:10Oh, what a tragedy.
34:15Everyone's asking me.
34:17If I've left my room in weeks,
34:21I'd just like my space.
34:22Is that not okay?
34:26I got a lot of bad habits.
34:29Like tying you to my happiness.
34:33You're in the past and I'm past it.
34:36Thought you'd be the last of me.
34:38But all I do is laugh.
34:39Cause we got so high and we got so low.
34:43You let me down and I let you go.
34:47No tears on my sheets.
34:49I'm feeling like a king.
34:51In my queen bed sleeping all alone.
34:54Yeah, we got so high.
34:56We could hold the clouds.
34:58But I'm not crying the whole way down.
35:02No tears on my sheets.
35:04I'm feeling like a king up in my queen bed sleeping all alone.
35:09Oh, one day you'll be too deep.
35:13Oh, three, four in the morning.
35:15Then you'll have me on your mind.
35:18Don't waste your time.
35:20I hear decline.
35:22You're at the top of a list of wrongs I don't want to make.
35:25Right.
35:26I quit a lot of bad habits like you.
35:30Like tying you to my happiness.
35:34You're in the past and I'm past it.
35:37Thought you'd be the last of me.
35:38But all I do is laugh.
35:40Cause we got so high and we got so low.
35:44You let me down and I let you go.
35:47No tears on my sheets.
35:50I'm feeling like a king up in my queen bed sleeping all alone.
35:55Yeah, we got so high.
35:57We could hold the clouds.
35:59But I'm not crying up all the way down.
36:02No tears on my sheets.
36:05I'm feeling like a king up in my queen bed.
36:10All alone, all alone, la, la, la.
36:14I'm in my queen bed sleeping all alone, all alone, all alone.
36:23I'm in my queen bed all alone.
36:36One more time.
36:37Let's hear it for Lesbeth Grace, y'all.
36:39Her latest single is Queen of Bad.
36:41It's available wherever you get your music.
36:43And look for her new album, Amor, Quien Eres, dropping May 1st.
36:46We'll be right back with what I'm liking.
36:55All right, we've reached that part of the hour.
36:57We'd like to share an inspiring story from the world of social media.
37:00This is what I'm liking.
37:04Summer is just around the corner,
37:06which means we get to spend a lot more time in nature.
37:08A non-profit with locations in Massachusetts and North Carolina
37:11wants to make sure the great outdoors are available to everyone
37:13because they're awesome.
37:14They're called Waypoint Adventure,
37:17and they give people with disabilities more access to activities
37:19like hiking, kayaking, and rock climbing.
37:22Adam is a co-founder of Waypoint,
37:24and he's dialed in from North Carolina,
37:25where he watches on WYFF.
37:27Hi, Adam.
37:28What's up?
37:31So this is about bringing adventure to everyone, right?
37:35That's right, Kelly.
37:36Waypoint is a non-profit that provides outdoor adventure programs
37:40for people with disabilities.
37:42We take them kayaking and hiking and rock climbing and tandem cycling.
37:47These programs are so much fun.
37:50But to us, honestly, it's deeper than that.
37:52It's more than just about having fun.
37:54We do this because we believe that being outside and being active
37:58and being rooted in a community of belonging
38:01is a big part of our mental and physical and social health.
38:05Yeah.
38:06I don't know if you knew this, but one in four, so says the CDC,
38:10one in four people in the U.S. have a disability.
38:13And this big group of people have been excluded
38:16from many parts of our society, including recreation.
38:20And so that's kind of forcing this huge group of people
38:23to be living life on the sidelines.
38:25And we're here to get people with disabilities
38:27back in the game of life,
38:29giving them access to something that we believe
38:31is fundamental to being human.
38:33Absolutely.
38:34Well, you became passionate about this work in college, right?
38:37Was it while you were in college?
38:38It was when I was in college, yeah.
38:40I actually was an outdoor education major in college.
38:43And if you can't tell, I am a personal believer
38:46in the power of adventure for deeply
38:49and positively impacting people's lives.
38:51And in 2008, I had the opportunity to move to Boston
38:54and do this work with people with disabilities.
38:57And that's where I met a guy by the name of Dan Minnick,
39:01who is Waypoint's other co-founder
39:03and our executive director.
39:05And since then, we've been able to give adventure
39:07to over 20,000 people with disabilities.
39:10And we know that there's still much more work to do.
39:13Oh, man, you are incredible.
39:14You have such a great heart.
39:15We love what you're doing.
39:16Thank you, Adam.
39:17I'm liking your post right now, but that's not all.
39:19Our season-long partner, Pilot Pen, makers of G2,
39:22the go-to pen of the Kelly Clarkson Show,
39:24love what Waypoint is doing.
39:25So they're going to be writing a check
39:26to Waypoint Adventure for $1,000
39:28just to pitch in and help out.
39:31Thank you so much, Adam.
39:34So, Rob, thank you to all our guests this hour.
39:37Hey, Kelly, Kelly, sorry, one more thing.
39:39Sorry.
39:40Can't go home just yet, because it's not a birthday
39:41unless we have some cupcakes and candles.
39:48Happy birthday to you
39:52Happy birthday to you
39:55Happy birthday to you
39:59Happy birthday to you
40:05Go ahead, Jessie.
40:06To you
40:08Yes!
40:10Thank you!
40:13Oh, my God.
40:16The real gift was knowing
40:18how much Jason felt uncomfortable
40:20about doing that.
40:22I'm going to do some.
40:24This is so nice.
40:25Everybody come get one.
40:26Thank you, guys.
40:27That was really nice.
40:29Come get one.
40:30Thanks to all our guests this hour.
40:32John Listow, Iyacash, Shayla Dias and Angel Walker,
40:36and you all know Russell Christensen,
40:37thank you so much for all of you.
40:38You all have a great day.
40:39Let's not grab a cupcake.
40:40Let's not grab a cupcake.
40:42A report for killing them is you have two guests.
40:46Please don't let kids continue.
40:47Bye.
40:47Bye.
40:47Bye.
40:48Bye.
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