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W nowym wydaniu programu The Ring, transmitowanym z Parlamentu Europejskiego w Brukseli, posłowie Dirk Gotink (EPL) i Maria Ohisalo (Zieloni) rozmawiają twarzą w twarz na temat rosnącego kryzysu mieszkaniowego w Europie.
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W nowym wydaniu programu The Ring, transmitowanym z Parlamentu Europejskiego w Brukseli, posłowie Dirk Gotink (EPL) i Maria Ohisalo (Zieloni) rozmawiają twarzą w twarz na temat rosnącego kryzysu mieszkaniowego w Europie.
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03:47Ode to duże.
03:53To są mieszkańcy, którzy płacili ich całe życie, żeby kupić jedną czy może drugą mieszkańczą,
03:59a potem niszcząc ich jako jak to są kriminy.
04:03A jeśli nie są allowed...
04:05Poliq, nie mówię, że tylko publicznie investujące problemy,
04:11ale nie mamy doświadczenie żadnego kraju na świecie,
04:13który mogłaby wypełnić krizeństwa,
04:15by tylko budować więcej mieszkańców.
04:19Nie, potrzebujemy miedziany model.
04:20i także dotyczymy krótkowe rentacje, które też były w środku.
04:24To jest pytanie kluczowe, nie tylko w Europie, ale również w domu, w Rovaniemiu, w Laplandu.
04:32To jest miejsce, gdzie studentów mogą się uśmiechnić, żeby żyć w centrum, bo to jest packed z krótkowe rentacje.
04:38W domu są budowane, tak jak mówimy, nie tylko w miejscach, gdzie potrzebujemy się najbardziej.
04:45Dlaczego to tak?
04:46Wiem, problem z Europą jest, że nie jest jedna jest jedna jest jedna.
04:49Dlatego nie możemy mieć jedna z jedną politykę na housingie i nie chcę tego.
04:53Bo locali autoritów, jak mares i municipalizacją, ale również regionalne autoritów,
04:59muszą być na tej fronty z wyraźnie do rozwoju tego kriziu.
05:04W Europie możemy je pomóc.
05:06Możemy je pomóc z tym, jak to, co mówiłem,
05:09aby się, aby z tym, aby się z tym, aby złożyć, aby złożyć, aby złożyć, aby złożyć, aby złożyć, aby
05:15złożyć,
05:17propozywania publica i prywatne investencja,
05:20żebyśmy także investiły w środowisku
05:22w środowisku w środowisku,
05:24ponieważ w Twojej introductie mówi,
05:26że to było głównych salariów,
05:29które były problemy, głównych grubów,
05:31ale w zasadzie,
05:31to się stało generalizowane w środowisku,
05:34w Europie.
05:35Problem jest, że również mamy wiele
05:37takich mieszkańców wokół Europy,
05:40szczególnie tych, które są używane
05:42za spekulatywne,
05:43i to jest tam, gdzie góverni Państwo
05:45można wstępować.
05:46W EUA może być tam,
05:48aby informować gorewnictwa
05:50na może zapewnić
05:51zapewnić w szkosłach,
05:53może zapewnić w szkole,
05:57żeby być może zapewnić w domu
05:59za 2-3 lata,
06:01a potem pozałów.
06:03A więc jednym problemem
06:05jest, że wtedy, kiedy
06:06mamy powstanie zapewnująca
06:07mieszkańców,
06:08po 20-30 lat,
06:11te domy są w szkole na marketu.
06:13I to jest również wielki problem,
06:15że kiedy stary jest subskrybować coś,
06:17powinniśmy wytrzymać finansowe i wytrzymać stary.
06:22Wydaje się, że wytrzymał się w tym czasie.
06:26Wiedzieliśmy to przez lata.
06:28I to tylko wytrzymało się pewnie.
06:30Czemu nie było niczego?
06:32Wydaje się, że jest też bardzo duża.
06:35Wydaje w Europie demograficznym zmianie jest bardzo duża.
06:38z influxem osób z oczorajem świecie jest ograniczony,
06:42szczególnie w pewien krajów.
06:45Ale jeszcze, nie jest jedna jedna zlucja do problemu.
06:49Musimy, że ludzie nie są kryminalizowane przez investowanie w domu.
06:55W wielu miejscach, w wielu miejscach, w wielu miejscach, są ich pensji.
06:58W krajów jak Finlandia i Niemczech,
07:00pensji są organizowane przez swoje pieniądze,
07:05ale wielu ludzi w innych miejscach, w ogóle kupić się w domu,
07:09aby wytrzymać pieniądze, poza tym, co to znaczy,
07:15że musimy spełnić i proteger te propytów,
07:18ponieważ to jest bardzo ważne dla cizgów w oczoraj Europie.
07:22Więc moja praca jest,
07:25znajdziecie się zgodnie,
07:26zobaczycie gdzie Europea może pomóc,
07:28po prostu,
07:29z przykładem, bo tam są wiele reguły o budowaniu domu,
07:34a wszystko, co ma z tym, co się dzieje z domu, jest regulowane przez Europę.
07:38I w Niedeljczyźnie, na przykład,
07:40jesteśmy wstępstwem, że możemy się sprawać, że to często jest z powrotem,
07:45a nie dlatego, że jestem przeciwko z powrotem,
07:47ale dlatego, że chcę budować domów.
07:49– Wydaje mi się, że jest więcej radytape niż tylko powrotem, prawda?
07:53– Wiem, że w tym reportie, który wskazaliśmy w Europie Parlamie
07:56na krize w budowaniu.
07:57EPP był wciąż zbudowanym
07:59zbudowaniu
08:00zbudowaniu
08:00zbudowaniu
08:01zbudowaniu
08:01zbudowaniu
08:02zbudowaniu
08:03zbudowaniu
08:04zbudowaniu
08:05bardzo ważne
08:08w tobie
08:09zbudowaniu
08:09klimatów
08:10i zbudowaniu
08:11zbudowaniu
08:13zbudowaniu
08:13zbudowaniu
08:14to, że to jest
08:15naprawdę
08:15problem
08:16w tym
08:18wielkim
08:18ekologicznym
08:20zbudowaniu
08:21zbudowaniu
08:21zbudowaniu
08:22zbudowaniu
08:24i to nie
08:24zbudowaniu
08:24zbudowaniu
08:27najczęściej
08:28i
08:29nie
08:30problemy
08:31klimatów
08:33zmienia
08:33użytkują
08:34w naszym
08:34życiu
08:35zbudowaniu
08:40zbudowaniu
08:42zbudowaniu
08:42zbudowaniu
08:43zbudowaniu
08:43Airbnb
08:46zbudowaniu
08:47udziału
08:49zbudowaniu
08:50zbudowaniu
08:50zbudowaniu
08:52zbudowaniu
08:52rozdzielniu
08:52Tak, tak. Nie, to może mieć ogromny wpływ na głównych duży dostaniami.
08:57Mój koleg wspomniałeś Lapland, ale także Amsterdam,
08:59albo jakiegoś wielkiego miejsca w mediterranean.
09:03To pytanie jest, że jakieś kolegów z mine chcą go do głowy i mówić,
09:08że Europy musi rozwołać problemu.
09:09Ale nic nie majejów i autoritety lokalne nie mogą zrobić w momencie,
09:15żeby rozwołać problem.
09:16Amsterdam ma najważniejsze reguły na pieniądze pieniądze w Europie.
09:20Więc to jest oczekanie na pyta na Europie rozwołać problem,
09:25który wszyscy już mogą zrobić.
09:28Ale to jest coś, co teraz czujemy na komisji,
09:31że to nie majejów na komisji,
09:31że to nie majejów na pieniądze pieniądze.
09:35To było jedno zgodnie, ale to nie było enough.
09:38I jestem wierdzi, że regularnie ludzie nie są w stanie w tym centrum,
09:43że nie jesteśmy na szansę,
09:45ale tylko na turistyczne.
09:49Of course, the Greens will not ban the whole Airbnb and short-term rentals in general,
09:54but we want to make the local authorities able to use all the tools in their hands.
10:00I bet there are still ways that EU can also instruct, let's say,
10:04on the times how long the places can be on Airbnb or other short-term rentals schemes.
10:12We need open registries of all the actors in the sector,
10:16and we need to really think whether in very, very affected areas
10:22we should maybe think about the bans, because there are these, from Lisbon to Robaniem.
10:27But this should absolutely not be done from a European level.
10:30These are local and national decisions, and you don't need Europe to solve a national problem,
10:34and that's what we're doing here.
10:35But then also Europe should not say that you should not use all the tools that you have on your
10:40hands,
10:40like in some case.
10:41All right. Well, let me stop you here, as we're just getting warmed up.
10:50Now it's time for our viewers to get a real flavor of the European Parliament Chamber,
10:54where members ask each other questions.
10:57And sometimes it can get heated.
10:59That means it's time for you to challenge each other directly,
11:03just as you do in the hemicycle behind us.
11:07So, let's get started, and I'll start with Maria.
11:11All right.
11:13As was mentioned, climate crisis is one of the biggest crises we are facing as humankind.
11:19And good ways to cut emissions in housing are making renovations accessible for everybody all over Europe
11:27and boost energy efficiency.
11:30In the negotiations, as I already mentioned, anyhow, EPP wanted to dismantle quite a lot of these tools,
11:39and you were not willing to have, for example, dedicated funding for renovations in the EU level
11:46to really make housing affordable and sustainable at the same time.
11:51So, why is this?
11:54Well, to be fair, at the moment, from, for example, the recovery fund money,
11:59and also from the current MFF, which has opened up, for example, the cohesion funds for investments in housing,
12:07there has never been more European money going into housing investments than at the moment.
12:13And that is because the EPP has been pushing this agenda for a long time.
12:19Secondly, whenever we invest, we don't do that with a blank check.
12:22Of course, there are standards, and I fully agree, and that's why we put that also in the report,
12:27that we need energy efficient housing.
12:29There's no point in giving someone a house which then costs a lot in income to heat, for example.
12:37So, we need energy efficiency.
12:38In fact, in Europe, we have the highest building standards in the world.
12:42People forget that, but in all these rules, in all these rules that we have made,
12:46and the standards we have built, there are also some that we don't need,
12:50and that are excessive, for example, minimum heating temperatures for corridors where nobody comes in winter.
12:58Some things we should be able to look at pragmatically, and not only dogmatically,
13:03and say, oh, if you touch a nature-related law, then you're against the environment or climate change.
13:09That's not true. What we want is to fix some of the complexity that is in the legislation,
13:14and everyone tells us, everyone, the builders, the investors, everyone tells us,
13:19please make it easier to invest, make it easier to build, and then the houses will come.
13:25No one is against cutting the unnecessary red tape,
13:29but then when it really comes to just building faster, just building lower quality,
13:34it will not solve the biggest crisis we have on our hands.
13:38Okay, short comment, but now your question to Maria.
13:41Well, my question would be about this approach.
13:43What we urgently need is a simplification package from the Commission
13:46about the rules and laws that have to do with building houses or the environment around the houses,
13:55so the soil, the air quality, the water quality, everything that has to do there,
14:00and even nature and nature 2000, yes, the habitat directive.
14:04These are things where you can make targeted, targeted simplifications
14:07in order to solve a basic, basic problem that has, in fact, to do with the dignity of people,
14:13and that is building houses, making sure that everyone has a house and a roof over their head.
14:19And why can you not simply talk with us on that issue?
14:24If I'm pragmatically giving you the answer from this house,
14:27the reality here is that EPP quite often tends to choose the cooperation with the far-right parties in this
14:33house,
14:34not the so-called von der Leyen majority with EPP, S&D, Renew and the Greens,
14:39which was very, very good on the previous mandate.
14:43And now suddenly EPP has this huge wave of simplification
14:47and everything just has to deal with cutting the red tape and so on.
14:52And this really has led to problems.
14:55If in this house, if commission gives something here
14:58and suddenly EPP here chooses the cooperation with far-right,
15:03then we will see dismantling of all these really important legislation,
15:08not only fixes here and there, but it will dismantle the big picture of our nature protection climate actions here.
15:15So what we see is that my colleague moves away from solving the problem for people
15:20and starts talking about the political games here in the European Parliament.
15:24That is a big mistake. Big mistake.
15:26Are you going away?
15:27What we should put at the center, what we should put at the center,
15:29is trying to solve the problem.
15:31In the EPP group, many of my colleagues voted in favor of all the laws that you mentioned.
15:37They are not in favor of dismantling all of it.
15:40So stop making that kind of narrative basically mainstream, because it is not.
15:46You will find that we voted also in favor of the climate targets.
15:49We voted for a lot of the important things that you're referring to.
15:53So don't tell us that we want to dismantle it.
15:55What we want, and also looking at the outside world,
15:58I mean, we are not living in a bubble.
16:01Our global competition is killing our economy.
16:04Yes, it is affecting how much money we have, for example, to invest in housing.
16:09We need to get our activator.
16:10This is a very disruptive period of history for us.
16:15Of course, we have climate change, but we're also fighting for economic survival in the world.
16:20Yes, and regarding this, if we want to see housing crisis as a real European crisis,
16:25then everybody should be involved as actors.
16:28It should be the European Union level, the institutions, EIB.
16:31It should be the member states, national governments, and the municipalities.
16:36And maybe we should talk about the deficit rules.
16:38And what if you said that housing should be dealt together in a similar way
16:44than defence is dealt in the European Union level?
16:47So would you then agree that we would exclude housing actions from the deficit rules,
16:52as we've done for the defence questions?
16:55No.
16:56On those fiscal issues, I even think that on defence it is not helpful,
16:59because the markets, they don't care if Brussels give exceptions
17:03or they think, oh, no, you can make more deficits.
17:07The markets look at your ability to pay back your deficits.
17:09But the member states are interested in that.
17:12And now many countries are not building enough affordable housing.
17:15Thank you both so far.
17:16I think we've heard your arguments very clear.
17:18Thank you very much.
17:20Now it's time to bring in a new voice into this debate.
17:27And here we'd like to bring in French Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu.
17:32In January, during a press conference on France's national plan to address the housing crisis,
17:38he said this,
17:39I have no doubt that we will be closely watched for our collective ability to succeed
17:44and deliver 2 million homes by 2030.
17:48Housing is one of the major emergencies in the country.
17:52Dirk, you're coming.
17:55Building 2 million homes, is this the ultimate solution to this?
17:59It's a good election slogan.
18:01It's a good election slogan.
18:02For the French elections.
18:03But honestly, start with one and then do another one and then do another one.
18:10Putting long-term targets.
18:12I mean, it's interesting for the communication, but nobody can live in a promise.
18:17Is that realistic?
18:18Well, actually, in the introduction, there was already a mention about some countries,
18:23Germany, for example, a big EU country that has no proper targets.
18:26This is a problem.
18:27If we don't see where we're heading, obviously, we're not doing enough efforts to reach it.
18:32Can the EU meet climate goals without worsening the housing crisis?
18:38Definitely.
18:39If we decide to do so, we have proper EU legislation on cutting emissions.
18:45The 2040 target by cutting 90% of our emissions.
18:49This is a very good example to show to the rest of the world that EU is still working, even
18:55though there's a lot of discussions that we should maybe back on our climate targets.
18:59But at the same time, taking all the tools that we have on our hands, as I mentioned, from the
19:03EU level to national governments, to municipalities and taking the best practices into use,
19:08even though if it's not European Union or Parliament Commission that can solve the crisis by itself, let's say there's
19:16a good practice on housing first, for example.
19:18This has been a very functional tool in cutting down the numbers of homelessness.
19:24Finland has been the country that actually was nearly reaching the goal of eradicating all homelessness in our country.
19:30And the question is always who pays for upgrades, right?
19:33Does that push rents even higher?
19:35It's a good question.
19:35And I agree that the approach in Finland has been very interesting and successful.
19:40But Finland is also one of the richest countries in the world.
19:43We cannot replicate what Finland has done in all other member states.
19:47I want to talk about young people after the break.
19:50We'll be back with more.
19:52Don't go away.
20:01Welcome back to The Ring, Euronews' weekly debate show.
20:05I'm Stefan Grobe and I'm joined by Dirk Gotink from the European People's Party from the Netherlands and Maria O
20:11'Hisalo from the Greens from Finland.
20:14In this edition, our guests are debating Europe's housing crisis.
20:18And I'd like to bring in some numbers from Eurostat.
20:23Roughly one third, 30 percent of income is now spent on housing in Southern Europe.
20:28Around 80 percent of low-income households in Greece are overburdened by housing costs.
20:35Then between 65 and 70 percent of young adults in Italy still live with their parents.
20:4226 years is the average age Europeans leave home, but 30 plus in Southern Europe.
20:49I promise we talk about young people.
20:52They are under pressure for various reasons here.
20:55What do you tell them when they say, I can't find an apartment, I have to stay with my parents,
20:59I want to move on.
21:00What do you tell them?
21:02I tell them that in the European Union level and also in the member states, the Greens are fighting in
21:08order to get the homes more affordable for everybody.
21:11If it's not the first time buyers, not too many people can afford to buy their own homes before they
21:19are 30 or something more, but at least to be able to rent.
21:24And right now, the problems are in the speculation in the market where big companies are taking over.
21:30However, it's not often the people who might own even a couple of or even more homes.
21:35That's not the problem.
21:36The small scale investors, but the big investors, the lack of willingness in the European Union level to tackle the
21:44short term rentals crisis we have in many countries and the lack of willingness to really invest in public,
21:53really public, affordable housing in all the member states and take the best practices into you.
21:58So we were working on this.
21:59What about this lack of willingness that she is?
22:02Well, I think the housing crisis is in the top three political topics in every member state in Europe.
22:10So there's not a single politician that is not aware that this is one of the main challenges of the
22:17future.
22:18And especially if we want to give a bit of hope and perspective to the young generation.
22:23In the Netherlands, you need to have, if you want to buy, you need to have 90,000 euros in
22:28cash minimum to be able to get on the buying market, which is crazy.
22:34Normally, a student probably has more debt coming out of university than they have cash on their bank account.
22:40So it's not realistic and it's unfair because parents, rich parents of children that get on the market will get
22:48an advantage over the ones that that have less financial abilities.
22:53One problem is homelessness.
22:55And we're seeing that homelessness is on the rise in Europe, even in some of the richest countries.
23:01And that the people who are affected by this, sometimes they have jobs, but they just cannot afford an apartment.
23:09How are we going to tackle this?
23:10It has a lot to do with accessibility of areas with more affordable housing, because one of the issues we
23:18see everywhere is that in the capital of your country, it's hard.
23:21It's almost impossible to to to buy or rent anymore.
23:26So you see younger families, for example, going out into the periphery cities.
23:32And if these cities are not well connected with train or road connections, then obviously it is much more difficult.
23:38Is housing a social good or a market commodity?
23:43Both.
23:43It should be a human right.
23:45And while tackling homelessness, housing first principle is the key to solve it.
23:52So you first give the home to a person.
23:54That is where if you can also invest into services to this person who has probably lived in the streets
24:00for years, then this person can maintain the home and will not be kicked out to the streets again.
24:08And if we just wait for the person first to get rid of their substance abuse problems or get a
24:15job from the street, this will not happen.
24:17So give the home first and this will solve the whole problem.
24:21Okay, now we're going to move on and it's time for our fifth and final round.
24:31We want to do something different here.
24:33I'm going to ask you a set of questions and you can only answer with a yes or no, if
24:39that's okay.
24:41Can the EU meaningfully act when housing policy is mostly national or local?
24:47Yes.
24:48Yes.
24:49Yes, definitely.
24:51Should Brussels take a stronger coordinating or funding role?
24:55Yes.
24:55Yes.
24:56Funding, yes.
24:57Coordinating, no.
24:58No.
24:59Should governments impose strict rent controls to limit price increase?
25:04Show me where it worked.
25:07We have different opinions about this in our political group here in the parliament.
25:12Personally, I would say no.
25:13Should foreign investors face limits or bans on buying residential property?
25:20Yes, definitely.
25:21Now we can talk about it.
25:23Okay.
25:24I take this as yes.
25:26Should zoning laws be relaxed to allow denser construction in urban areas?
25:32Yes.
25:33It depends on the set of other legislation also when it comes to nature, climate and so on.
25:40So, rather no.
25:44Rather no.
25:45Rather no.
26:10Okay.
26:10We already have that possibility in the Netherlands in some places and I think you can think about that.
26:15But it's not Europe deciding that.
26:17Yeah.
26:18It's the national authority.
26:20Should the EU allow more public spending and debt to build social housing?
26:24Well, that is what's being done now in a limited way.
26:30So, that's a yes.
26:32Yes.
26:33Yes.
26:33Should home ownership be actively promoted or should policy accept a long-term shift towards renting?
26:41We need both.
26:43Home ownership is the basis for people's stability in life and yes, it should be promoted.
26:50Good.
26:51All right.
26:51Last question.
26:52Have you agreed with anything you've heard from your opponent today?
26:59Yeah.
26:59Yeah.
27:00Yeah.
27:00The housing first in Finland.
27:02It's a very successful approach.
27:04Okay.
27:05And I agree that a lot of the problems people are faced with cannot be solved if someone is on
27:11the streets
27:11and they need simply a roof over their heads.
27:15Okay.
27:15I really like the fact that you want to see defense and housing crisis on the same level.
27:19I really want to see this switch in the narrative in the whole European Union level.
27:24And that final answer brings us to the end of this edition of The Ring.
27:28Thanks to our audience at home.
27:30If you like, you can continue the conversation by sending us your comments to thering at euronews.com.
27:37That's it for today.
27:38I'm Stefan Grober.
27:40Take care and see you soon on euronews.
27:43Thank you.
27:44Thank you.
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