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Crise da habitação: um teste à estabilidade social da Europa? Confronto entre eurodeputados
Nesta nova edição do programa The Ring, transmitido a partir do Parlamento Europeu, em Bruxelas, os eurodeputados Dirk Gotink (PPE) e Maria Ohisalo (Verdes) debatem a crescente crise da habitação na Europa.
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Nesta nova edição do programa The Ring, transmitido a partir do Parlamento Europeu, em Bruxelas, os eurodeputados Dirk Gotink (PPE) e Maria Ohisalo (Verdes) debatem a crescente crise da habitação na Europa.
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00:08Olá e bem-vindos ao The Ring,
00:10Euronews's weekly debate show
00:12broadcasting from the European Parliament
00:14here in Brussels.
00:16I'm Stefan Grobe.
00:17On The Ring, elected members of the European Parliament
00:20go face-to-face on some of the biggest issues
00:23facing the EU.
00:24Today, we're going to talk about the situation
00:26that weighs on more and more people in Europe
00:29the housing crisis.
00:33Europe's housing crisis is no longer looming.
00:37It's already squeezing those least able to afford it,
00:41renters and low-income households.
00:44Over the past decade, prices have surged
00:46while wages have stagnated,
00:48leaving millions struggling to afford basic housing.
00:52The pressure is especially intense in southern Europe,
00:55where rising rents, over-tourism
00:57and short-term rentals in cities
00:59have pushed locals out,
01:01fueling protests and political backlash.
01:04At the same time, there is a lack of infrastructure.
01:07Countries like Germany and the Netherlands
01:08are missing construction targets and deadlines,
01:11while waiting lists for social housing keep growing.
01:15The European Union is pushing for more investment
01:17and simpler rules to boost affordable housing supply.
01:20But governments remain divided on how far to go.
01:24The crisis is no longer just about housing.
01:26It is becoming a test of Europe's economic model
01:29and social stability.
01:35A lot to unpack here for our contenders
01:39and here they are.
01:42Dirk Gotting, a Dutch MEP from the Central-Right European People's Party.
01:47He serves in the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs
01:49and is the Vice-Chair of the European Parliament's Special Committee
01:52on the Housing Crisis in the EU.
01:54Regarding the EPP-led housing report,
01:57recently adopted by the European Parliament,
01:58he said,
01:59the EPP group wants more affordable homes,
02:02build faster.
02:03We need simpler EU rules to cut red tape,
02:05speed up permits
02:06and treat housing with the same urgency as defence projects.
02:11Maria Ohisalo,
02:12a Finnish MEP from the Greens European Free Alliance Group.
02:15She previously served as Finland's Minister of Environment,
02:18managing policy on construction and housing.
02:21As an MEP,
02:22she is a member of the Special Committee on the Housing Crisis.
02:24Critical of the Central-Right-backed housing report
02:27recently adopted by the European Parliament,
02:30she said,
02:30in this report,
02:31housing is not considered primarily as a human right
02:34and as a cornerstone of dignity,
02:36but as a tool that can be used for speculation.
02:39So let me welcome to the ring Dirk Gotting and Maria Ohisalo.
02:43Great to have you here.
02:44Good to see you.
02:45Thanks for the invitation.
02:46I think the core question right now is
02:49why are housing costs rising faster than wages almost everywhere?
02:54One of the key questions is the speculation,
02:58financialisation of housing market,
03:00that homes are not considered primarily as human rights,
03:03but as asset classes for big hedge funds,
03:05companies, private investors.
03:08And then just saying that we should build
03:11and get more investors to the market,
03:13this will not solve the problem.
03:14We need more affordable housing
03:16and available housing for everybody.
03:18But somebody has to build them, right?
03:20Exactly.
03:21And this kind of state-sponsored sort of subsidies
03:23will only drive up more of the prices.
03:26We want to fix the problem in the market
03:28because building materials are getting very expensive,
03:32which is one of the reasons why housing prices go up.
03:35But also governments try things like rent controls
03:38and all kinds of other stimulating,
03:40demand-stimulating measures
03:42that also drive up prices.
03:44because what happens if you can get more money from the bank?
03:48That is, that the sellers of houses
03:50will start increasing their prices.
03:51And this is not financial speculators.
03:54These are citizens who have paid their entire lives
03:56to buy one or maybe a second house,
03:59and then you treat them as if they're criminals.
04:03And if they're not allowed to sell,
04:05they can sell speculators.
04:06I did not say that only public investment
04:09will solve the problem.
04:11But we have no experience of any country in the world
04:13that could have solved the housing crisis
04:15by only building more private housing.
04:19No, we need a mixed model
04:20and also tackling the short-term rentals,
04:23which was also in the insert.
04:25This is a key question,
04:26not only in the southern Europe,
04:27but also back home up north in Rovaniemi, Lapland.
04:32This is a place where students can afford
04:33to live in the city center anymore
04:35because it's packed of short-term rental homes.
04:38Well, homes are being built, as we speak,
04:41not only at the places where we need the most.
04:45Why is that so?
04:46Well, the problem with Europe
04:47is that there's no one-size-fits-all.
04:49That's why we cannot have one single policy on housing,
04:52and we don't want that.
04:53Because local authorities,
04:56like mayors and municipalities,
04:58but also regional authorities,
04:59they need to be on the front line
05:02of solving the housing crisis.
05:04In Europe, we can help them.
05:06We can help them with things like what I said,
05:09making sure that the market for building materials works,
05:13changing state aid rules,
05:15because indeed, we need a mixed approach
05:18of public and private investment
05:19so that we can also invest in middle-class,
05:23in middle-class affordable housing,
05:24because your introduction said
05:26it was mostly the lower salaries that had problems,
05:30lower income groups,
05:31but in fact, it has become
05:32a generalized middle-income crisis in Europe.
05:35The problem is that we also have
05:37a lot of vacant homes around Europe,
05:40especially the ones that are used
05:42for speculative reasons,
05:43and this is where the governments can step in.
05:46The EU can actually be there
05:48to inform the governments
05:50to maybe introduce vacancy taxes,
05:53maybe introduce different taxes
05:54for speed-up selling
05:57so that you should maybe maintain the home
05:59for two years or three years,
06:01and then after that, sell it.
06:04Then one problem is also that
06:05when we then state subsidize affordable housing,
06:09after 20, 30 years,
06:10these homes are actually sold into the market,
06:13and this is also a huge problem
06:15so that when state is subsidizing something,
06:17they should maintain affordable
06:20and they should maintain the state subsidized.
06:23The housing crisis has been a long time coming.
06:26We know this for years,
06:28and it has only gotten worse.
06:30Why hasn't been done anything?
06:32Well, because the challenge is also very big.
06:35Demographic change in Europe is very large.
06:38The influx of also people from around the world
06:41is significant, especially in certain countries.
06:45But again, there is no single solution to the problem.
06:50What we need is that people are not criminalized
06:53for investing in a home.
06:55And often, in many places,
06:56their homes are their pensions,
06:58because in countries like Finland and the Netherlands,
07:01pensions are organized via your income
07:04at your employer.
07:05But many people in other parts of Europe,
07:07actually, they buy a house
07:09in order to secure income after they retire,
07:13which means that we need to respect
07:16and protect those properties as well,
07:19because this is very important
07:20for citizens around Europe.
07:22So my approach would be
07:25find a balanced approach,
07:26see where Europe can help,
07:28get out of the way of construction, for example,
07:30because there, there's a lot of rules
07:32around building a house
07:34and everything that has to do with a house
07:36is regulated by Europe.
07:38And in the Netherlands, for example,
07:40we are going slower than we could
07:42because of environmental, often.
07:45And it's not because I'm against the environment.
07:47No, it's because I want to build houses.
07:49I guess there's more red tape
07:51than just environmental, right?
07:53But to be honest, in the report
07:54that we were writing in the European Parliament
07:56on housing crisis,
07:57EPP was willing to cut
07:59Birds and Habitants Directive,
08:02nature restoration legislation,
08:04energy efficiency legislation,
08:07very important tools
08:08to tackle the climate crisis,
08:10the biodiversity crisis at the same time
08:12when we need to tackle the housing crisis.
08:14So this is really a problem
08:16that we are backing
08:17in this big, big ecological crisis
08:20at the same time,
08:21only by saying that we need more simplification
08:23and we need more cutting the red tape.
08:25This will not solve building faster
08:28and low-quality homes
08:30will not solve the problems
08:31of climate change
08:33altering our ways of living.
08:36Summer is becoming hotter and hotter,
08:38floods affecting our housing also.
08:41We need to tackle all the crisis
08:42at the same time.
08:43What about companies like Airbnb?
08:46How do they distort the market?
08:47And we've seen big cities
08:48like Amsterdam, Barcelona,
08:51you know, restricting this.
08:53Yes, yes.
08:53No, they can have a huge impact
08:55in the big tourist destinations.
08:57My colleague mentioned Lapland,
08:58but also Amsterdam
08:59or any go-around,
09:00any big city in the Mediterranean.
09:03The issue is that
09:05some colleagues of mine
09:06want to go for the headline
09:07and say Europe needs to solve the problem.
09:09But there's nothing
09:10mayors and local authorities
09:12cannot do at the moment
09:14to solve the problem.
09:16Amsterdam has the strictest rules
09:18on short-term rentals
09:19in all of Europe.
09:21So be careful
09:22with asking for Europe
09:24to solve a problem
09:24which everyone actually
09:26already can do on their own.
09:28Maria?
09:28But this is something
09:29that we are now waiting eagerly
09:31from the Commission
09:31that they would give a proposal
09:33on short-term rentals again.
09:35There was one done last term,
09:37but it was not enough.
09:38And I'm afraid
09:39that the regular people
09:40are not put into the center
09:42of the legislation,
09:43that we are not looking
09:45at the affordability,
09:46but we're only looking
09:46at touristification.
09:48And of course,
09:50the Greens will not ban
09:51the whole Airbnb
09:52and short-term rentals
09:54in general.
09:54But we want to make
09:56the local authorities able
09:57to use all the tools
09:59in their hands.
10:00I bet there are still ways
10:01that EU can also instruct,
10:03let's say,
10:04on the times,
10:04how long the places
10:07can be on Airbnb
10:08or other short-term rentals schemes.
10:12We need open registries
10:14of all the actors
10:15in the sector.
10:16And we need to really think
10:18whether in very,
10:19very affected areas
10:22we should maybe
10:23think about the bans.
10:25Because there are these
10:25from Lisbon to Robaniemi.
10:27But this should absolutely
10:28not be done
10:28from a European level.
10:30These are local
10:30and national decisions
10:31and you don't need Europe
10:33to solve a national problem.
10:34and that's what we're doing.
10:35But then also,
10:36Europe should not say
10:37that you should not use
10:38all the tools
10:39that you have on your hands
10:40like in some case.
10:42All right.
10:43Well, let me stop you here
10:44as we're just getting warmed up.
10:50Now it's time for our viewers
10:51to get a real flavor
10:53of the European Parliament chamber
10:54where members ask
10:56each other questions.
10:57And sometimes it can get heated.
10:59That means it's time for you
11:01to challenge each other directly
11:03just as you do
11:05in the hemicycle behind us.
11:07So let's get started.
11:09And I start with Maria.
11:11All right.
11:13As was mentioned,
11:15climate crisis
11:16is one of the biggest crises
11:17we are facing
11:17as a humankind.
11:19And good ways
11:21to cut emissions
11:21in housing
11:23are making renovations
11:25accessible for everybody
11:26all over Europe
11:27and boost energy efficiency.
11:30In the negotiations,
11:32as I already mentioned,
11:34anyhow,
11:35EPP wanted to dismantle
11:37quite a lot of these tools.
11:39And you were not willing
11:41to have,
11:42for example,
11:43dedicated funding
11:44for renovations
11:45in the EU level
11:46to really make housing
11:48affordable
11:49and sustainable
11:50at the same time.
11:51So why is this?
11:54Well,
11:54to be fair,
11:55at the moment,
11:56from, for example,
11:57the recovery fund money
11:59and also from
12:00the current MFF,
12:01which has opened up,
12:02for example,
12:03the cohesion funds
12:04for investments
12:06in housing,
12:07there has never been
12:09more European money
12:10going into housing investments
12:12than at the moment.
12:13And that is because
12:15the EPP
12:15has been pushing
12:16this agenda
12:17for a long time.
12:19Secondly,
12:19whenever we invest,
12:20we don't do that
12:21with a blank check.
12:22Of course,
12:23there are standards
12:24and I fully agree
12:25and that's why
12:25we put that also
12:26in the report
12:26that we need
12:27energy efficient housing.
12:29There's no point
12:30in giving someone
12:31a house
12:32which then costs
12:33a lot in income
12:35to heat,
12:36for example.
12:37So we need
12:37energy efficiency.
12:38In fact,
12:39in Europe,
12:40we have the highest
12:40building standards
12:41in the world.
12:42People forget that.
12:43But in all these rules,
12:44in all these rules
12:45that we have made
12:46and the standards
12:46we have built,
12:47there are also some
12:48that we don't need.
12:50and that are excessive,
12:52for example,
12:53minimum heating temperatures
12:55for corridors
12:56where nobody comes
12:57in winter.
12:58Some things
12:59we should be able
13:00to look at pragmatically
13:01and not only dogmatically
13:03and say,
13:03oh,
13:03if you touch
13:04a nature-related law,
13:07then you're against
13:07the environment
13:08or climate change.
13:09That's not true.
13:10What we want
13:11is to fix
13:11some of the complexity
13:13that is in the legislation
13:14and everyone tells us,
13:16everyone,
13:16the builders,
13:17the investors,
13:18everyone tells us,
13:19please make it easier
13:21to invest,
13:22make it easier
13:22to build,
13:23and then the houses
13:24will come.
13:25No one is against
13:26cutting the unnecessary
13:28red tape,
13:29but then when it really
13:30comes to just building
13:32faster,
13:33just building
13:34lower quality,
13:35it will not solve
13:36the biggest crisis
13:37we have on our hands.
13:38Okay,
13:38short comment,
13:39but now your question
13:40to Maria.
13:41Well,
13:41that's my question
13:42would be about
13:43this approach.
13:43What we urgently need
13:44is a simplification
13:45package from the
13:46Commission
13:46about the rules
13:49and laws
13:50that have to do
13:52with building houses
13:53or the environment
13:54around the houses,
13:55so the soil,
13:56the air quality,
13:58the water quality,
13:59everything that has
14:00to do there,
14:00and even nature
14:01and nature 2000,
14:02yes,
14:02the habitat directive.
14:04These are things
14:04where you can make
14:05targeted simplifications
14:07in order to solve
14:09a basic,
14:10basic problem
14:11that has in fact
14:12to do with
14:12the dignity of people
14:13and that is building
14:14houses,
14:15making sure that
14:16everyone has a house
14:17and a roof
14:18over their head.
14:19And why can you
14:21not simply talk
14:22with us on that issue?
14:24If I'm pragmatically
14:25giving you the answer
14:26from this house,
14:27the reality here
14:28is that EPP
14:29quite often
14:30tends to choose
14:31the cooperation
14:31with the far-right
14:32parties in this house,
14:34not the so-called
14:35von der Leyen majority
14:36with EPP,
14:38S&D,
14:38Renew
14:38and the Greens,
14:39which was very,
14:41very good
14:42on the previous mandate
14:43and now suddenly
14:44EPP has this huge
14:45wave of simplification
14:47and everything
14:48just has to deal
14:49with cutting
14:50the red tape
14:51and so on.
14:52And this really
14:53has led to problems
14:55if in this house,
14:56if commission
14:57gives something here
14:58and suddenly
14:59EPP here
15:00chooses the cooperation
15:02with far-right,
15:03then we will see
15:05dismantling of all
15:06all these really
15:07important legislation
15:08not only fixes
15:09here and there
15:10but it will dismantle
15:11the big picture
15:12of our nature
15:13protection climate
15:14actions here.
15:15So what we see
15:16is that my colleague
15:17moves away
15:18from solving
15:18the problem
15:19for people
15:20and starts talking
15:21about the political
15:22games here
15:23in the European
15:23Parliament.
15:24That is a big mistake.
15:25Big mistake.
15:26What we should put
15:27in the center
15:29is trying to solve
15:30the problem.
15:31In the EPP group
15:33many of my colleagues
15:34voted in favor
15:35of all the laws
15:36that you mentioned.
15:37They are not in favor
15:38of dismantling all of it.
15:39So stop making
15:41that kind of narrative
15:44basically mainstream
15:44because it is not.
15:45You will find
15:46that we voted also
15:47in favor of the
15:48climate targets.
15:49We voted for
15:50a lot of the important
15:51things that you're
15:52referring to.
15:53So don't tell us
15:53that we want to
15:54dismantle it.
15:55What we want
15:56and also looking
15:57at the outside world.
15:58I mean we are not
15:59living in a bubble.
16:01Our global competition
16:02is killing our economy.
16:04Yes.
16:05It is affecting
16:05how much money
16:06we have for example
16:07to invest in housing.
16:09We need to get
16:10our activator.
16:11This is a very
16:12disruptive period
16:13of history for us.
16:15Of course we have
16:16climate change
16:16but we are also
16:17fighting for economic
16:18survival in the world.
16:20Yes.
16:21And regarding this
16:22if we want to see
16:23housing crisis
16:24as a real
16:24European crisis
16:25then everybody
16:26should be involved
16:27as actors.
16:28It should be
16:29the European Union
16:29level,
16:30the institutions,
16:31EIB,
16:31it should be
16:32the member states,
16:34national governments
16:34and the municipalities
16:35and maybe we should
16:37talk about
16:37the deficit rules
16:38and what if
16:40you said that
16:41housing should be
16:41dealt together
16:42in a similar way
16:44than defense
16:44is dealt
16:45in the European Union
16:46level.
16:47So would you
16:47then agree
16:48that we would
16:48exclude housing
16:50actions from
16:51the deficit rules
16:52as we've done
16:53for the defense
16:54questions?
16:56No,
16:56on those fiscal
16:56issues I even
16:57think that on
16:58defense it is not
16:59helpful because
17:00the markets they
17:00don't care if
17:02Brussels give
17:03exceptions or
17:04they think oh
17:05no you can make
17:05you can make
17:06more deficits
17:07the markets look
17:08at your ability
17:08to pay back
17:09but the member
17:10states are
17:11interested in that
17:12and now many
17:12countries are not
17:13building enough
17:14affordable housing.
17:15Thank you both so far
17:16I think we've heard
17:17your arguments
17:17very clear
17:18thank you very much
17:20now it's time
17:21to bring in
17:22a new voice
17:23into this debate.
17:28And here we'd like
17:29to bring in
17:29French Prime Minister
17:30Sébastien Lecornu
17:31in January
17:33during a press
17:33conference on
17:34France's national
17:35plan to address
17:36the housing crisis
17:37he said this
17:39I have no doubt
17:40that we will be
17:41closely watched
17:42for our collective
17:43ability to succeed
17:44and deliver
17:452 million homes
17:47by 2030.
17:48Housing is one
17:49of the major
17:50emergencies
17:51in the country.
17:53Dirk
17:53your comment
17:54building 2 million
17:56homes
17:56is this the
17:58ultimate solution
17:58to this?
17:59It's a good
17:59election slogan
18:01for the French
18:02elections
18:03but honestly
18:04start with one
18:06and then do
18:07another one
18:08and then do
18:08another one
18:10putting long
18:11term targets
18:12I mean it's
18:13interesting for
18:13the communication
18:14but nobody
18:15can live in a
18:16promise.
18:17Is that realistic?
18:18Well actually
18:19in the introduction
18:20there was already
18:21a mention about
18:22some countries
18:22Germany for example
18:23a big EU country
18:24that has no
18:25proper targets
18:26this is a problem
18:27if we don't see
18:28where we're heading
18:29obviously we're not
18:30doing enough
18:31efforts to reach it.
18:32can the EU
18:34meet climate
18:35goals
18:35without worsening
18:37the housing
18:37crisis?
18:38Definitely
18:39if we decide
18:40to do so
18:41we have
18:42proper EU
18:43legislation
18:43on cutting
18:44emissions
18:45the 2040 target
18:47by cutting
18:4790% of our
18:49emissions
18:49this is a
18:50very good
18:50example
18:51to show
18:51to the rest
18:52of the world
18:52that EU
18:53is still
18:53working
18:54even though
18:55there's a lot
18:55of discussions
18:56that we should
18:57maybe back
18:57on our
18:58climate targets
18:59but at the same
19:00time taking
19:00all the tools
19:01that we have
19:02on our hands
19:02as I mentioned
19:03from the EU
19:04level to
19:04national governments
19:05to municipalities
19:06and taking
19:06the best practices
19:07into use
19:08even though
19:09if it's not
19:10European Union
19:10or Parliament
19:11Commission
19:12that can
19:12solve the
19:13crisis by
19:14itself
19:15let's say
19:15there's a good
19:16practice on
19:17housing first
19:17for example
19:18this has been
19:19a very functional
19:20tool in
19:21cutting down
19:22the numbers
19:22of homelessness
19:23Finland has been
19:24the country
19:25that actually
19:26was nearly
19:26reaching the goal
19:27of eradicating
19:29all homelessness
19:30in our country
19:30the question is always
19:31who pays for upgrades
19:33does that push
19:34Renz even higher
19:34it's a good question
19:35and I agree
19:36that the approach
19:37in Finland
19:37has been
19:38very interesting
19:39and successful
19:40but Finland
19:41is also one
19:41of the richest
19:42countries in the world
19:43we cannot replicate
19:44what Finland
19:45has done
19:46in all other
19:47member states
19:47I want to talk
19:48about young people
19:49after the break
19:50we'll be back
19:51with more
19:52don't go away
20:01welcome back
20:02to the ring
20:03Euronews's
20:04weekly debate show
20:05I'm Stefan Grobe
20:06and I'm joined
20:07by Dirk Gotink
20:08from the European
20:09People's Party
20:09from the Netherlands
20:10and Maria
20:11Ohisalo
20:12from the Greens
20:13from Finland
20:14in this edition
20:15our guests are
20:16debating
20:16Europe's housing
20:17crisis
20:18and I'd like
20:18to bring in
20:19some numbers
20:21from Eurostat
20:22roughly one third
20:2430% of income
20:25is now spent
20:26on housing
20:27in southern Europe
20:28around 80%
20:29of low income
20:30households
20:31in Greece
20:32are overburdened
20:33by housing costs
20:35then between 65
20:37and 70%
20:38of young adults
20:39in Italy
20:39still live
20:41with their parents
20:4126 years
20:43is the average age
20:44Europeans leave home
20:46but 30 plus
20:47in southern Europe
20:49I promise
20:50as we talk about
20:50young people
20:52they are under pressure
20:54for various reasons
20:55here
20:55what do you tell them
20:56when they say
20:56I can't find
20:57an apartment
20:58I have to stay
20:59with my parents
20:59I want to move on
21:00what do you tell them
21:01I tell them
21:03that in the European
21:04Union level
21:05and also in the
21:05member states
21:06the Greens
21:06are fighting
21:07in order
21:08to get the homes
21:10more affordable
21:11for everybody
21:11if it's not
21:12the first time
21:13buyers
21:15not too many
21:15people can afford
21:16to buy their own
21:17homes
21:18before they are
21:1930 or something
21:20more
21:20but at least
21:22to be able
21:23to rent
21:23and right now
21:24the problems
21:25are in the speculation
21:27in the market
21:28where big companies
21:29are taking over
21:30it's not often
21:31the people
21:32who might own
21:32even a couple
21:33of or even more
21:34homes
21:35that's not the problem
21:36the small scale
21:38investors
21:38but the big
21:39investors
21:40the lack
21:41of willingness
21:42in the European
21:42Union level
21:43to tackle
21:44the short term
21:44rentals
21:45crisis we have
21:46in many countries
21:47and the lack
21:48of willingness
21:48to really
21:49invest in
21:50public
21:53really
21:53public
21:54affordable housing
21:55in all the member states
21:56and take the best
21:57practices into you
21:57so we're working
21:58on this
21:59what about this
21:59lack of willingness
22:00that she is
22:01well I think
22:03the housing crisis
22:04is in the top
22:05three political
22:08topics
22:09in every member
22:10state in Europe
22:10so there's not
22:12a single politician
22:13that is not aware
22:14that this is one
22:15of the main
22:16challenges
22:17of the future
22:17and especially
22:18if we want to
22:19give a bit of hope
22:20and perspective
22:21to the young generation
22:22in the Netherlands
22:24you need to have
22:25if you want to buy
22:26you need to have
22:2790,000 euros
22:28in cash
22:29minimum
22:30to be able to
22:31get on the
22:32buying market
22:33which is crazy
22:34normally a student
22:35probably has more
22:36debt
22:37coming out of
22:38university
22:38than they have
22:39cash on their
22:39bank account
22:40so it's not
22:41realistic
22:42and it's unfair
22:42because
22:44parents
22:44rich parents
22:45of children
22:46that get on
22:47the market
22:48will get an
22:48advantage
22:49over the ones
22:49that have
22:51less financial
22:52abilities
22:53one problem
22:54is homelessness
22:55and we're seeing
22:56that homelessness
22:57is on the rise
22:57in Europe
22:58even in
22:59some of the
22:59richest countries
23:01and that
23:02the people
23:03who are affected
23:03by this
23:04sometimes
23:04they have
23:05jobs
23:05but they just
23:06cannot afford
23:07an apartment
23:08how are we
23:10going to tackle
23:10this
23:10it has a lot
23:11to do with
23:12accessibility
23:12of areas
23:13with more
23:14affordable
23:14housing
23:16because
23:16one of the
23:17issues we see
23:18everywhere
23:18is that
23:19in the capital
23:19of your country
23:20it's almost
23:21impossible
23:22to buy
23:24or rent
23:25anymore
23:26so you see
23:27younger families
23:28for example
23:29going out
23:29into the
23:30periphery
23:31cities
23:31and if
23:32these cities
23:32are not
23:33well connected
23:33with train
23:34or road
23:35connections
23:36then obviously
23:37it is much
23:37more difficult
23:38is housing
23:39a social
23:40good
23:40or a market
23:41commodity
23:42both
23:43it should be
23:44a human
23:44right
23:45and
23:45while tackling
23:48homelessness
23:49housing first
23:50principle
23:50is the key
23:51to solve
23:51it
23:52so you
23:52first
23:53give the
23:53home
23:53to a
23:54person
23:54that is
23:55where
23:55if you
23:55can also
23:56invest
23:56into
23:57services
23:57to this
23:58person
23:58who has
23:59probably
23:59lived
23:59in the
24:00streets
24:00for years
24:01then this
24:02person
24:03can
24:03maintain
24:03the
24:03home
24:04and
24:04will
24:04not
24:04be
24:05kicked
24:05out
24:06to the
24:06streets
24:07again
24:08and
24:08if
24:09we
24:09just
24:10wait
24:10for
24:10the
24:11person
24:11first
24:11to
24:11get rid
24:12of
24:12their
24:12substance
24:12abuse
24:13problems
24:13or
24:14get a
24:15job
24:15from
24:15the
24:16street
24:16this
24:16will
24:17not
24:17happen
24:17so
24:18give
24:18the
24:18home
24:19first
24:19and this
24:20will
24:20solve
24:20the
24:20whole
24:21problem
24:21okay
24:22now
24:22we're
24:22to
24:23move
24:23on
24:23and
24:24it's
24:24time
24:25for
24:25our
24:25fifth
24:26and
24:26final
24:27round
24:31we
24:32want to
24:32do
24:32something
24:32different
24:32here
24:33I'm
24:33going
24:33to
24:34ask
24:34you
24:34a
24:34set
24:34of
24:35questions
24:35and
24:35you
24:35can
24:36only
24:36answer
24:36with
24:37a
24:37yes
24:38or
24:38no
24:39if
24:39that's
24:40okay
24:40can
24:41the
24:41EU
24:42meaningfully
24:43act
24:43when
24:44housing
24:44policy
24:45is
24:45mostly
24:45national
24:46or
24:47local
24:47yes
24:48yes
24:49yes
24:49yes
24:50definitely
24:50okay
24:50should
24:51brussels
24:52take a
24:52stronger
24:53coordinating
24:53or
24:54funding
24:54role
24:54yes
24:55yes
24:56funding
24:57yes
24:57coordinating
24:58no
24:58no
24:59should
24:59governments
25:00impose
25:00strict
25:00rent
25:01controls
25:01to limit
25:02price
25:03increase
25:03show me
25:05where
25:05it
25:05worked
25:07we have
25:08different
25:08opinions
25:09about this
25:09in our
25:09political
25:10group
25:10here
25:11in the
25:11parliament
25:11personally
25:12I would
25:12say
25:13no
25:13no
25:14should
25:15foreign
25:16investors
25:16face
25:17limits
25:17or
25:17bans
25:18on
25:18buying
25:19residential
25:19property
25:20yes
25:20definitely
25:21now we
25:22can talk
25:22about it
25:22okay
25:24I take
25:25this as
25:25yes
25:26should
25:27zoning
25:27laws
25:28be relaxed
25:29to allow
25:29denser
25:29construction
25:30in urban
25:31areas
25:31yes
25:33it depends
25:35it depends
25:35on the
25:35set of
25:36other
25:36legislation
25:37also
25:37when it
25:38comes to
25:38nature
25:38climate
25:40and so
25:40on
25:40so
25:41rather
25:42no
25:44rather
25:44no
25:45okay
25:45should
25:46vacant
25:47properties
25:47be taxed
25:48or expropriated
25:49to bring
25:50them onto
25:50the market
25:51yes
25:54in
25:55in
25:56highly populated
25:57urban
25:57areas
25:58if you
25:59leave
25:59properties
26:00vacant
26:00for too
26:01long
26:02I would
26:03say
26:03personally
26:03yes
26:04you need
26:05to be
26:05able to
26:05nudge
26:06the property
26:07back onto
26:08the market
26:08so the authorities
26:08should ask
26:08what's going
26:09on here
26:09and
26:10we already
26:10have that
26:11possibility
26:11in the
26:12Netherlands
26:12in some
26:12places
26:13and I
26:13think
26:14you can
26:14think
26:15about
26:15that
26:15but
26:15it's
26:16not
26:16Europe
26:16deciding
26:17that
26:17yeah
26:17it's
26:18the
26:18national
26:19of course
26:19should
26:20the
26:20EU
26:20allow
26:21more
26:21public
26:22spending
26:22and
26:22debt
26:23to
26:23build
26:23social
26:24housing
26:24well
26:25we have
26:25that is
26:26what's
26:26being
26:27done
26:27now
26:28in a
26:28limited
26:28way
26:29so
26:30that's
26:31a yes
26:32yes
26:32yes
26:33should
26:33home ownership
26:34be actively
26:35promoted
26:36or should
26:36policy
26:37accept
26:37a long
26:38term
26:38shift
26:39towards
26:40renting
26:41we need
26:42both
26:42home ownership
26:44is the
26:44basis
26:45for
26:46people's
26:47stability
26:47in life
26:48and yes
26:49it should
26:49be
26:49promoted
26:50good
26:50all right
26:51last
26:52question
26:52have
26:53you
26:53agreed
26:54with
26:54anything
26:55you've
26:55heard
26:55from
26:56your
26:56opponent
26:57today
26:57yeah
26:59yeah
26:59yeah
27:00the housing
27:00first
27:01in Finland
27:02it's a
27:02very
27:03successful
27:03approach
27:04and I
27:05agree
27:05that a
27:06lot
27:06of the
27:07problems
27:07people
27:07are
27:08faced
27:08with
27:08cannot
27:09be
27:09solved
27:09if
27:10someone
27:10is
27:11on
27:11the
27:11streets
27:11and
27:12they
27:12need
27:12simply
27:13a
27:13roof
27:14over
27:14their
27:14heads
27:14okay
27:15I
27:15really
27:16like
27:16the
27:16fact
27:16that
27:16you
27:17want
27:17to
27:17see
27:17defense
27:17and
27:18housing
27:18crisis
27:18on the
27:19same
27:19level
27:19I
27:20really
27:20want
27:20to
27:20see
27:20this
27:21switch
27:21in
27:22the
27:22narrative
27:22in
27:22the
27:22whole
27:23European
27:23Union
27:23level
27:23and
27:24that
27:24final
27:24answer
27:25brings
27:25us
27:26to
27:26the
27:26end
27:27of
27:27this
27:27edition
27:27of
27:27the
27:28ring
27:28thanks
27:29to
27:29our
27:29audience
27:29at
27:30home
27:30if
27:30you
27:30like
27:31you
27:31can
27:31continue
27:31the
27:32conversation
27:32by
27:32sending
27:33us
27:33your
27:34comments
27:34to
27:35the
27:35ring
27:35at
27:36euronews.com
27:37that's
27:38it for
27:38today
27:38I'm
27:39Stefan
27:47you
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