A Presidência dinamarquesa reforçou a defesa e a competitividade da Europa, afirma a ministra

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00:00Música

00:00Joining me today from the European Parliament in Strasbourg

00:11is Denmark's European Affairs Minister Marie Biere.

00:14She's had a busy six months as Denmark has been holding

00:18the rotating presidency of the European Union.

00:21They hand over the baton to Cyprus in the new year.

00:24Minister, welcome and thank you so much for joining us on Euronews.

00:28Thank you.

00:28So you said very clearly back in the summer,

00:31at the beginning of this presidency,

00:33that advancing Ukraine's application to join the European Union

00:37would be a big priority for you.

00:40Are you satisfied that progress has been made?

00:43Well, absolutely.

00:45As this advancing EU enlargement process with Ukraine

00:48has been and is one of our top priorities

00:51because we live in uncertain times.

00:54We need a stronger Europe, a Europe that is more secure,

00:57that they can defend itself, and enlargement is a part of that priority.

01:01And that is why it has been so essential for us to move on the enlargement agenda,

01:05especially with Ukraine, but also with Moldova and the countries in the West Balkan.

01:10This is about security.

01:11We need the candidate countries to be closer with the EU,

01:15to be more secure, more stability for Europe.

01:18We don't want any of the candidate countries to turn their eyes to Russia.

01:21It has been particularly difficult with Ukraine,

01:24because, as I guess almost everyone knows,

01:28Hungary is blocking for formal process with Ukraine.

01:32Recently, I know in Lviv that you managed to find a solution for that,

01:36which is a workaround that the technical work can continue,

01:39the Ukraine can continue on this path.

01:41But are you disappointed that you were not able to convince Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán

01:47to give his green light,

01:49and that you had to find this quite creative workaround to that?

01:52No, I have to say I am extremely satisfied and proud

01:56that we actually managed to find a new approach

01:59where the enlargement procedure is not at a standstill,

02:03but is in fact very much alive,

02:05that we are moving with Ukraine and also Moldova,

02:08because we are now taking this new approach,

02:10and that approach will be continued during the next presidency,

02:14the Cyprus presidency.

02:15So even though that Hungary is blocking,

02:17we have moved on the enlargement agenda,

02:19because we knew before we took over the presidency

02:21that it would be a problem with Hungary.

02:23They were also blocking during the police presidency,

02:26and they are still blocking.

02:28Couldn't this risk, though,

02:29entrenching Viktor Orbán's opposition even more?

02:33Because at some point, if the rules stay as they are,

02:35he will have to lift his veto.

02:38So if Ukraine is to become a European Union member?

02:41Well, the enlargement procedure requires unanimity

02:44and eventually becoming a member country.

02:47We need all countries on board.

02:49But I think that when Ukraine is delivering

02:51and increasingly are making the reforms

02:54that are getting closer to the EU day by day,

02:56that also increases the pressure on Hungary.

03:00They can't keep blocking,

03:01because Ukraine is getting so much closer to EU

03:04in terms of reforming and transforming the country.

03:07And Ukraine in EU will be a huge benefit,

03:11not just for Ukraine, but also for EU.

03:13For instance, when it comes to our defense and security,

03:16having an integrated defense with Ukraine

03:19would really boost our security.

03:21So I think as long as Ukraine is moving that way,

03:25we are also able to increase the pressure on Hungary.

03:29Now, you've always said that EU membership should be merit-based.

03:33That is, countries have to meet milestones, implement reforms,

03:36and be ready to join the European Union before they join.

03:39But now Ukraine and also the US seems to have a different timeline in mind.

03:45And they're saying that Ukraine, as part of security guarantees,

03:48should become a European Union member as soon as January 2027.

03:54Do you fear you're being outsmarted by the US here?

03:56Well, I hear all of those rumors.

03:59And to be frank, we hear a lot of things from over the seas.

04:03We have never put a timeline on neither Ukraine nor Moldova

04:09or on the countries in West Balkan,

04:11because it is a merit-based approach,

04:13and we stand with that.

04:16Ukraine have to deliver.

04:18Of course, we would like to see them sooner than later in the EU,

04:21but they have to deliver and they have to reform.

04:23We're not going to lower the bar.

04:25We will help them reach the bar.

04:27So no peace agreement can demand quicker access

04:31or establish a timeline for the enlargement process?

04:35I think it is fair that it is a part of the talks

04:39when we're talking about peace with Ukraine,

04:42because the EU membership is undoubtedly a part

04:45of the long-term security and stability for Ukraine,

04:49having a more stable country.

04:51But when we talk security guarantees,

04:54the EU membership is not enough.

04:56Moving on to a slightly different topic,

04:59you've also vowed at the beginning of the presidency

05:02to tackle bureaucracy and over-regulation.

05:05And in recent months, we've seen various initiatives,

05:08so-called simplification packages,

05:11stripping back EU laws in many different areas

05:13in order to restore its competitive edge.

05:16Are you satisfied with these measures,

05:19or are you still concerned that Europe could become a desert

05:23for tech champions and emerging companies?

05:27Well, I'm very happy that you're bringing up this topic,

05:29because that's also really one of the areas

05:31that I'm just super proud of the Danish presidency.

05:34We said from the beginning that we wanted a stronger Europe

05:38in terms of security and defense and also competitiveness.

05:41That was the second theme.

05:43And we really managed also to deliver results here,

05:46taking the omnibus packages.

05:48The Council now have reached a general approach

05:51on six of the omnibus packages,

05:52and we have been able to, during our presidency,

05:55to make agreement on three of the omnibus packages

05:58with the European Parliament.

06:00Especially, I am very satisfied that we made agreement

06:03on the omnibus one,

06:05on sustainability requirements for companies.

06:07This will ease the burdens on our companies very much,

06:11and that is very good.

06:12And it is a good first step for moving on

06:16and making it easier to do business in Europe.

06:18And that is really something we need

06:20if we want to have a better competitiveness in Europe.

06:24But does this simplification agenda come with a price?

06:29Does it come with a price for the climate, for example?

06:32I don't see it that way.

06:34Actually, on the contrary,

06:36if we don't strengthen our competitiveness,

06:39we will not be able to solve the climate challenges

06:43we are faced with.

06:44Because in order to find solutions for that,

06:48we need to have a strong economy

06:51where we do not depend on fossil fuel.

06:54Therefore, we need new green technologies.

06:57And those new green technologies,

06:59they cannot thrive

07:00if we don't have a good economic environment

07:02and where it is easy for businesses to scale

07:06and to grow, to find investment.

07:07Digital rules have also been simplified.

07:10Are you concerned that this is partly a bow to the US,

07:15which is making it very clear

07:17that it's unhappy with the degree of regulation

07:20affecting digital tech companies

07:22coming from the European Union?

07:23I think it is quite a strange argument to make.

07:28Europe has to have better competitiveness,

07:30and we needed to have that,

07:32whether we had Trump or we did not have Trump,

07:35whether the US is saying what they do or not.

07:38That was evident by the Mario Draghi report last year,

07:41before there was the presidency election in the US.

07:44We have problems with our competitiveness,

07:46and Mario Draghi, in fact,

07:47was also pointing to that we are over-regulating in the EU.

07:51So this has nothing to do with Trump or the US.

07:54This has something to do with EU, with Europe,

07:57that we want Europe to be stronger.

07:59And in order for us to be a global actor,

08:01we need to make it easier to do business,

08:03and therefore we need to ease the burdens.

08:06I'd like to touch as well, Minister, if I can,

08:09on the migration files,

08:10because you have been overseeing as the Danish presidency

08:12many important developments

08:15when it comes to migration policy,

08:17including steps that could allow EU countries

08:21to send asylum seekers to third countries deemed safe.

08:27Some of these countries may have absolutely no connection

08:31to these asylum seekers.

08:33Is this a fair and humane way for the EU

08:36to treat potential refugees?

08:38This has also been part of our presidency priorities,

08:43and it is a part of making Europe more secure.

08:47We need to have better control of migrants going to Europe,

08:51and we need to be better at sending irregular migrants back.

08:56It is also about the number.

08:58There is a limitation of how many irregular migrants

09:02we can receive.

09:03That will destabilize our countries

09:05if we receive too many efforts

09:07and if we cannot send back our regular migrants.

09:10Now we have reached an agreement in the Council

09:12on the safe third country,

09:15making it easier to send our regular migrants back.

09:18And would you say that the EU is now embracing

09:20the quite harsh or hard line on migration

09:24that Denmark has been embracing for quite a long time

09:27and often criticized for that?

09:29Well, to be honest, not enough.

09:31I mean, it's very good that we made these agreements,

09:33but we still have a lot of problems.

09:37We still have conventions saying that we have to protect

09:41the criminal immigrants better than our own citizens.

09:44In Denmark, we are struggling a lot.

09:46Are you referring to the Human Rights Convention?

09:48The Human Rights Convention, yes.

09:50Criminal immigrants that we cannot send back

09:53because of the conventions.

09:55So this has nothing to do with the EU policy

09:57but the conventions, and that is a problem.

09:59And we are, to say it out straight,

10:02we are protecting criminal immigrants

10:05better than we are protecting our own citizens.

10:07So this is something that we are also working with.

10:10We did that before our presidency, during our presidency,

10:12and we will keep working with that.

10:14And I just acknowledge that we are now many member countries,

10:19also non-EU countries, that are now working to have this change.

10:22And you support changing the way that convention is interpreted,

10:26is that right?

10:27Yes.

10:27We made a letter together with now, I believe it's 27 countries,

10:32some of them EU countries.

10:34It is also about trust and trust in our democracy.

10:39If it is convention and judges that are making our laws

10:42instead of elected politicians,

10:44we will lose trust in our democracy.

10:48So this is something we have to take serious.

10:51And that's what we do from Denmark.

10:52And I can see that more and more countries

10:55agree with our approach in Denmark about this.

10:58Finally, Minister, to close off,

11:01what would you say to your Cypriot counterparts?

11:04What should they really be prioritizing

11:06over the next six months?

11:07Well, I hope they will continue on the same track as we did

11:12and we followed up on the Polish presidency,

11:15especially when it comes to security and defense.

11:18That was also what the Polish presidency was about.

11:20We have built on that, also on competitiveness.

11:23And this is really key issues for Europe.

11:26Now we have a roadmap from the Commission

11:29guiding us how to be able to defend ourselves in 2030.

11:34I hope that the Cyprus presidency will continue this work

11:37and also on competitiveness.

11:40We just talked about Omnibus 1,

11:42and now we have eight packages,

11:44but much more will come from the Commission.

11:45And we need to reach agreements on that

11:47in the Council and with the European Parliament.

11:49So I really hope that the Cyprus presidency

11:51will do their best on this.

11:53I'm sure they will.

11:54Minister, thank you so much.

11:56Thank you.

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