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Murdered or Missing - Season 1 Episode 2
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01:00Amarjit Chohan's badly decomposed body was discovered near Bournemouth Pier
01:07There are now concerns for other family members who disappeared with the millionaire businessman
01:20Amarjit's body washing up on Bournemouth Beach wasn't a case of someone's gone swimming and drowned, fallen off a boat
01:27and drowned
01:27He was gagged
01:29He was murdered
01:31The vibe around the team was horror and the sadness that we're now looking for the rest of the family
01:37You know, where are they?
01:38Are they being detained somewhere?
01:40Or worse, have they been killed?
01:42I immediately authorised aircraft to fly over around that immediate area
01:49See if we can identify any bodies in the sea
01:56We had to find that family
01:58And we had to do everything we could to try and find them
02:21My job as a crime scene manager was basically we were on call for any serious incidents
02:26That's murder, shootings
02:30We would go out and assess the scenes
02:32And deal with it like a murder scene
02:34Until we were happy that it was not suspicious
02:37But certainly this one, the fact that he had tape around his face and was gagged
02:42That really pushes it straight up to this is a suspicious death
02:48We've got to try and piece together, you know, what has happened to this man
02:51He's obviously met a very uncomfortable end
03:04The body was fully clothed
03:05And it often takes quite a while to remove each item of clothing
03:11A either navy or purple sweatshirt, v-neck, long sleeve
03:16Had a certain amount of grit on it
03:19A pair of blue jeans, heavily contaminated by sand
03:23And I felt each sock as I took it off
03:26It felt squashy like any saturated sock
03:29And there was a pair of navy boxer shorts
03:33However, the important thing that was still left
03:36Was the bindings round the lower face
03:39It consisted of a mixture of a scarf
03:42And brown wide parcel tape
03:46That had been wound round and round the head repeatedly
03:50There was a very mutilating injury to the top of the head
03:54Not just to the scalp, but the skull underneath it
03:57This was obviously a blunt force injury
04:03If that had happened during life
04:06And we were dealing with a fresh body
04:08You would expect to see bruising of the scalp
04:11There was no bruising around that
04:15He had fracture of the very bottom of the spinal column in his neck
04:21If it had happened during life
04:23You'd expect to see bruising around the fracture
04:25There was no bruising around this one
04:27And I felt that because that's a structure deep inside the body
04:32That's probably a post-mortem fracture
04:34It's often called the undertaker's fracture
04:37Because if a body is roughly handled after death
04:41That is where it tends to break
04:44I finished the autopsy saying this is a highly suspicious death
05:02The matroportum police said he died in appalling circumstances
05:12I could see that Ankur's body was slightly trembling
05:16Then he regrouped himself and started asking more questions
05:19On where that was, how that was found
05:25We were shocked, totally horrified by what we were being told
05:30And trying to digest that information
05:33I think both of us thought
05:36So how do we find Nancy and the other family members?
05:41But my kind of head was going
05:44This is not looking good for us at all
05:58The day that Amajit's body washed up on Bournemouth Beach
06:03Was the 10-year anniversary of Stephen Lawrence's murder
06:09And at my level, we were very conscious of the fact
06:12The eyes of London, the eyes of the country, the eyes of the world
06:14Were on the Met Police
06:15What we did, how we did it
06:18Had we moved on
06:19In fact, Amajit Choham was an Asian man
06:26The person had been lying to us all along
06:28About him being in touch
06:29And missing and got to meet us and get passports
06:32As a white man
06:37Kenneth Regan was a good liar
06:39And he gave us this story of the Choham family going off on holiday
06:44What's wrong?
06:46Yeah, of course I'm running the business
06:48I'm a partner
06:50So all the focus was on Kenneth Regan and his associate William Hornsey
06:57And Belinda Bruin was someone who was working on behalf of Regan
07:00On a daily basis for Seba Freight Amajit's business
07:05Complete focus now of the investigation was to track down Regan and Hornsey
07:13And at this time, Belinda Bruin was also being sort of quite extensively interviewed
07:18Because she clearly knew a lot of the background
07:22And in a sort of throwaway comment, right at the end of her interview
07:26She happened to sort of mention
07:27I don't know if this has got anything to do with it
07:30But I did come home, you know, a week or so ago
07:32She had been working in London
07:34And had gone home to Tiverton and Devon
07:36Earlier than she'd planned
07:38And had come across Regan, Hornsey
07:41And another man who she knew to be
07:43A guy called Peter Rees
07:48And they'd been digging in the corner of her field
07:54She had a couple of fields opposite her house
07:57Where she kept horses
07:59She was quite angry
08:00And said, what are you doing?
08:03And Regan said, look, you know
08:04I told you I'd sort out the drainage in your field for you
08:07So I've done it as a favour
08:09That set alarm bells ringing, to say the least
08:14So we immediately dispatched Detective Sergeant Tony Bishop
08:18Down to Belinda Bruin's property
08:23We were told, once you find this ditch, get it dug up
08:28We get there
08:29And Belinda comes zooming up the lane
08:32In a massive panic
08:33Explaining that she's literally just bumped into Regan and Hornsey
08:37At the end of the lane
08:40They had said to her, look, get in the car
08:42We need to speak to you
08:46As far as she was concerned
08:47If she'd got in the car with them
08:49That would probably be the end of her
08:51Because she's clearly a very loose end
08:53As far as they're concerned
08:55Certainly in terms of all the activity in the field
09:01The DCI had sort of said to us, right
09:03You know, you two stay down there
09:05And basically make sure Regan and Hornsey don't come back
09:09And if they do come back, then arrest them
09:13We didn't have any sort of protective equipment
09:15So we were literally looking around
09:17Trying to sort of think
09:18What could we arm ourselves with as potential weapons?
09:21We were looking at sticks and rocks
09:25It was a pretty surreal moment in my policing career anyway
09:30But Regan and Hornsey didn't come back
09:36We found out two o'clock the next morning
09:39Regan and Hornsey booked onto a ferry
09:43Going across to Calais
09:48Why do people skip the country?
09:50Well, they skip the country
09:51Because they've got something to hide, fear, run away from
09:55We sent a couple of officers over to France
09:58To see if we could physically track where they were going
10:02Over time, we did find out they'd gone to Spain
10:09We started working with the authorities
10:12Europol, Interpol, Spanish police
10:14So if Regan and Hornsey had turned up at an airport
10:18And tried to book a flight to the Far East
10:20We would have got them that way
10:24Regan, Hornsey and Peter Rees
10:27Were our three key suspects in this murder investigation
10:31Peter Rees, we didn't know where he was
10:33Norman McKinley, as the SIO, had made a decision of
10:37I want to get Regan and Hornsey before Rees
10:43The police then not just distributed two pictures of their prime suspects
10:49But held them up for the TV cameras
10:52I am satisfied that these two men are involved
10:56It was a bold and dramatic move
10:58But it showed just the sense of importance
11:01Of this number one priority
11:03The Met police had at that time
11:08I'm still hopeful
11:09And I'm praying to God
11:12For my mother, my sister
11:14And my two nephews
11:22There was lots happening both in London and in Devon
11:28The next step was to excavate in the corner of Belinda's Field
11:36There was evidence that an area had been recently dug up and refilled
11:41With forensic officers and exhibits officers
11:44We did do literally a fingertip forensic search of this trench
11:49They were looking for anything that would put the Chohans
11:52Or could put the Chohans into a potential gravesite
11:58Very difficult process
12:00Basically everything has to be dug out and then put through sieves
12:04I think it had rained for nearly two weeks non-stop down there
12:07So it was like a quagmire
12:11I don't think any of us really thought
12:13That there were going to be any bodies in this field
12:15You know, it just seemed too incredulous
12:35Police already knew about Kenneth Reagan's significant criminal past
12:40And that he had associates
12:41Some of the highest and most dangerous criminals in London and the south of England
12:50We then found out that in the 90s
12:53When he'd been charged with possession with intents to supply heroin
12:56He had turned Queen's evidence
12:58And actually gave information against his co-conspirators
13:05As a result, given that evidence
13:06He had a reduced sentence from 20 years to 8 years
13:11The names that Reagan handed over to the police in 1998
13:15Resulted in a £100 billion cocaine operation being busted
13:19And 15 people being convicted
13:22One of which, quite astonishingly, was his best mate William Hornsey
13:27Who somehow had forgiven Reagan for landing him behind bars
13:31And they were now as thick as thieves in an even closer association
13:43I got a phone call from one of the officers in the field in Devon
13:48We haven't found any bodies
13:50But we have found something
13:55They recovered Indian jewellery
13:59Bits of hair
14:02Certainly poppers, which looked like they might have come off nappies or children's clothes
14:06There was burnt bits of wood and furniture
14:08We weren't sure where that had come from at that stage
14:12In our minds, we think the family were buried here
14:15And Regan, Hornsey, and Rees
14:18Have then come back and excavated the bodies
14:23There was clear indication that bodies have been buried too
14:29Certainly we believe one body
14:31And that is Mr Chohan
14:34It's too early to say
14:36Whether there are other members of the family
14:38That is the two children
14:40And the two female adults who are here
14:55Regan, having told us all these stories
14:57He was the focus
15:01Some people that worked at CBER were saying
15:04All they could hear Ray's voices
15:07Whenever Amicic was on the phone
15:09Then we heard that he was quite nervous
15:12About going to this meeting at Stonehenge
15:14About the business
15:17Subsequently, we found out that meeting was with Regan
15:20And these two Dutch guys
15:24We believe that he met with Regan
15:26Hornsey was there
15:27And Rees
15:28But Rees was making out he was a Dutch buyer
15:30So start to look what's around Stonehenge
15:35And we quickly established that Kenneth Regan
15:38Was living with his father in Wiltshire
15:41Which is not that far away
15:44Officers had visited Kenneth Regan's father's address
15:48The weekend that we knew that Chohan had gone missing
15:52Kenneth Regan had told his father
15:55That he was packing him off for the weekend
15:58The father, when he spoke to us
16:00Said that when he came home
16:01He had new carpets
16:03And a new sofa in the house
16:10You go in there thinking
16:12This is possibly a major crime scene
16:16And when you walk in the front door
16:17And you smell fresh paint
16:19That definitely makes you think
16:21Has there been a cover-up?
16:24There was a new carpet
16:26You could see where maybe an old carpet had been
16:28And certainly some new wallpaper had been put up
16:33There seemed to be some bits of furniture missing
16:35Which may account for some of the bits of wood
16:38Burnt down in Devon
16:41To me, this is covering up
16:44Something that's happened in this house
16:47So we called Claire Austin
16:48From the Forensic Science Service to come out
16:51And we used luminol
16:52Which is a chemical
16:54Which we spray around
16:55And then we leave it for a few days
16:56And then we go back
16:57And we can see where possibly blood has been cleaned up
17:03The problem is luminol reacts with peroxide
17:08And they'd use bleach to clean up
17:11We found sort of 20 areas
17:13Which possibly was blood
17:15And they were swabbed and sent off for analysis
17:19But it all came back negative
17:23After spending several days examining inside of Forge Close
17:26We looked around the outside of the house
17:28To see if there was anything out there
17:30And approximately four feet in height from the ground
17:34On the outside wall of the house
17:36We found a small blood stain
17:39That looked like it had come from above
17:41In a downward trajectory
17:44And that was then sent for DNA analysis
17:46And found to match one of the Chohan males
17:49Of the family
17:51Hello
17:53Nina, Nina, Nina, Nina
17:56We started to realise that potentially
17:58All five of the Chohan family had been murdered
18:06Kenneth Reagan was actually very, very canny
18:10He covered his tracks very well initially
18:12And he wrote letters
18:14He told people he'd been speaking to Amajit
18:16And Amajit was running away
18:20When Chohan's belongings were recovered
18:22In a suitcase sometime later on
18:24There were 23 blank pieces of papers
18:27Signed by Amajit Chohan
18:32Some of the documents that we recovered
18:34Were printed on Rees's home computer
18:37Or on his word processor
18:39We managed to match the paper up
18:42I can only imagine that Amajit Chohan
18:45Signed those pieces of paper under duress
18:48So they're either torturing him
18:50Or his family being tortured in front of him
19:12The police had been given information
19:16That Peter Rees was in hiding
19:20In a bed and breakfast
19:21At a forest of Dean
19:24He'd watched this press conference
19:27And said something spontaneous
19:30Like, I know this case
19:33And he told the owner of the bed and breakfast
19:35And she got really worried and frightened
19:37And she rang the Metropolitan Police
19:39To give more information
19:41I think he was cornered
19:44He didn't know me from Adam
19:46He just started saying
19:48Have I seen him on TV?
19:51And I said, no
19:52Should I have done?
19:53And he just said that he was involved
19:55With an Asian family that had disappeared
19:59They could put me at the scene
20:01But I didn't kill anybody
20:03He was going, I can't pin that on me
20:05And I'd say to him, you know
20:06What is going on, you know
20:08He just said that Regan was crazy
20:11It was Regan, he's a psycho
20:14I knew what I had to do
20:20It wasn't that long
20:21Before Peter Rees was found
20:24By a police team from the Met
20:25Just drinking in a pub
20:27When he was arrested
20:29He knew his time was up
20:31And sort of came quietly
20:34Rees was charged
20:35And interviewed by police
20:37And predictably said
20:39Not a single word
20:42He was someone
20:44I think overawed
20:45By the fact
20:46That he was dealing
20:46With such superior league criminals
21:10Months after the body of Armajit Chohan came up at Bournemouth Pier
21:14A body came up in a fishing trawler
21:17Just off the coast at Dorset
21:20They found the body
21:22It had been tightly wrapped in tarpaulin
21:25Arousing some suspicion
21:27The body had been in the water for some time
21:30In quite a dilapidated state
21:33We had a special post-mortem
21:34And samples were taken
21:37And it came back that it was Nancy Chohan
21:48It was a moment
21:49Knowing that she was dead
21:52She had a head injury
21:53It was quite obvious
21:55That she'd recently given birth
21:58She was just post-natal
22:00It's so sad
22:02I don't know how anyone could do that to someone
22:17It's only when we are told what happened
22:21It becomes even more horrifying
22:23Because you realise that you're not going to find them
22:27Anka is just breaking
22:32The funeral director actually rang and said
22:34I understand that you want to see the body
22:36Can I tell you that it's battered?
22:39Because Nancy had received a hammer blow
22:42On her head
22:44And I said, look, I need to talk to Anka
22:46I don't need to see it
22:47But Anka's insisting in it
22:48And I actually went to the funeral director with Anka
22:51And Jean, the funeral director
22:54Actually tried to be as sensitive as possible
22:57What she'd done was clothed the coffin
23:00And put a scarf around the skull
23:02But actually had a massive image of Nancy
23:05In her beautiful sari
23:09For me, it was not a skeleton
23:11For me, it was my baby sister
23:16For me, she was still alive
23:19And I was talking to her
23:25And that was it
23:29A tearful goodbye
23:31That's what I said
23:47Then we heard from the Metropolitan Police
23:49That the mother had been found
23:56Mrs. Corr's skull was found on Allen Bay Beach
23:59On the Isle of Wight
24:03Some children playing football came across a skull
24:10Onka is a man who has lost everything
24:15In a period of months
24:17There is still, I think, in Onka's head
24:20You'll find the children
24:22It's not common sense
24:24It's irrational
24:26When Nancy Chohan was dredged up by a trawler
24:30The trawler men did see a package fall
24:32Or something fall from her body
24:38We can only assume that they were the children
24:44Speaking to sort of marine experts
24:46They said that children, you know, bodies that size
24:48Would just never resurface
24:54I don't think we'd believe before that day
24:57That anyone would be capable of murdering
24:59Three generations of one family
25:01Two baby boys, a mum, a dad and a grandmother
25:04I didn't think anything like that was possible
25:06We've seen some horrific cases in our time
25:08But at this time
25:09It was the realisation that the family were all dead
25:14It was shocking
25:20By now the investigation
25:22Had become a huge, widespread investigation
25:25You know, you've got crime scenes in London
25:28Potentially crime scenes in Stonehenge
25:30The crime scene where Chohan has been held as a prisoner
25:36Belinda Bruin, I think she literally only had like one or two neighbours
25:39But the neighbour did also recount to us
25:42What Linda had said about Kenneth Regan, William Hornsey
25:45And Peter Rees digging in the field
25:48A neighbour had seen them with a white transit van
25:51That they had tried to sort of block the view into the field
25:56So we started looking at Regan, Hornsey and Rees
26:00As to any vans, any cars they've hired
26:03Have they hired any diggers?
26:06We established that Regan had hired a white transit van
26:10Using his own driving licence
26:12Paying by his own credit card
26:14Making no attempts to sort of cover their tracks
26:18The guy who ran the van hire company
26:21You know, actually remarked
26:22That when they returned the van
26:24There was just this awful smell
26:27But the inside of the van had been pressure washed
26:30Which, according to the van hire guy
26:32Is unheard of
26:33No pressure washes the van
26:35And Regan sort of explained
26:37That they'd been moving some dead livestock
26:39Well it was clear
26:40That that van had obviously been used for something by Regan
26:43Clearly he hadn't been moving livestock
26:45So the van was immediately seized
26:47And brought in for a forensic examination
26:54Regan, Hornsey and Rees
26:56Seem to be very forensically aware
26:58Their actions of redecorating forge close
27:01And cleaning the back of the van
27:03Suggest that they were aware of their actions
27:05And trying to get rid of any evidence
27:08I think someone would expect
27:09If they pressure washed an area
27:11To have got rid of all the evidence
27:14That could be there
27:14But blood will go in places
27:16You wouldn't expect it to go
27:19We went over it literally
27:22Millimetre by millimetre
27:23Looking for blood
27:24Looking for blood in crevices
27:26Or gaps
27:27Or areas
27:28That might have escaped
27:30We did find blood inside the van
27:32That looked like it had been
27:33As a result of an impact
27:35And that blood was sent away
27:36For DNA analysis
27:39And that blood matched that
27:40Of Amarjit Chohan
27:45We were making huge extensive CCTV inquiries
27:51We were able to track your transit van
27:54Going into a service station
27:55Down to the coast
27:57And we found that Regan had bought a boat
28:06The boat was brought into the lab
28:08And it was stored in one of our forensic garages
28:10And me and some assistants examined the boat
28:14We spent several days going over it
28:16Doing a fingertip search of it
28:18We think that they were transported
28:21In the open part of the back of the boat
28:24And when we lifted up one of the mats
28:26We found some hair
28:29The hair looked like it had just fallen off the head
28:31So it was obviously off someone who had been dead
28:33And whether they had a head trauma or something
28:35It was sort of black
28:38Very black hair
28:41Finding something like the hair on the boat
28:43Was a little bit of a breakthrough
28:45I remember we phoned the police officer in charge
28:47And gave him the news that we'd found this hair
28:50And rushed it through for forensic analysis
28:52To see if we could get any DNA from it
28:56We got a partial profile of DNA
28:58It indicated the hair had possibly come from an Asian male
29:01That we believed to have originated from Amajit Chohan
29:07That was an indication
29:08That the bodies had come out of the pit in Devon
29:11Put into a speedboat
29:13And taken out to the sea
29:18We subsequently realised
29:20Looking at all the timeline
29:21That was when Regan was becoming spooked
29:24By the police investigation
29:25And probably felt that they could just lead us
29:28A bit of a merry dance
29:29With the story about meeting Chohan in Newport
29:35That's when they went back to Devon
29:37Exhumed the bodies from their makeshift grave
29:41Put in this transit van
29:43Then put them on the boat
29:45And went out to sea
29:47There was a local police marine unit
29:49Coming into sort of harbour
29:50As they were going out
29:51They sort of pulled up alongside
29:53To say look
29:54It's pretty choppy conditions out there
29:56You know
29:56You guys know what you're doing
29:58Regan and Hornsey were sort of
30:00Yeah thank you very much
30:01Yeah we know what we're doing
30:02We're fine
30:02So off they went
30:04You know
30:04And we know now
30:06That once they got out to sea
30:08All the bodies were dumped into the channel
30:17The thing with Regan is
30:18It seemed that crime had moved on
30:21Since he was last sort of in prison
30:25And he just didn't seem aware
30:27Of any phone cell site evidence
30:30That we could use
30:34Sophisticated criminals tend to use
30:35Sort of burner phones
30:36That they use for a very short period of time
30:39And then they discard
30:39But throughout this entire crime
30:42Kenneth Regan
30:43William Hornsey
30:45And Peter Rees
30:46Each kept the same mobile phone
30:49Now everybody knows about phones being tracked
30:52But in 2003 you've got to remember
30:54This was cutting edge technology
30:56And not many people actually comprehended it
30:58Or understood it
31:01You could not pinpoint
31:03But you could find a location
31:04Of where a phone had been
31:06And when it was last used
31:07There was an awful lot of telephone evidence
31:09Showing Regan, Hornsey and Rees
31:12Moving around the country
31:13At the times
31:15To the sites where we know
31:16The bodies were buried originally
31:18And also when they moved them
31:20Down to the south coast
31:27We started to look and see
31:29Where Amidit Chohan's phone
31:30Had gone
31:31You know
31:32Around the time
31:33Of the alleged say
31:34And of the business
31:34And it's quite clear
31:35That Chohan's mobile phone
31:38Is mirroring
31:39Kenneth Regan's mobile phone
31:42Chohan would have realised
31:43At some point
31:44He'd been duped
31:45He was clearly then
31:46Taken down to
31:47Regan's dad's house
31:50Down in Wiltshire
31:51Where he was held prisoner
31:52And tortured
31:55And made to sign
31:56A number of sheets of paper
31:58That were subsequently used
31:59By Regan
32:00To be made into
32:02A power of attorney
32:03So that they could be presented
32:05To the CBER employees
32:08And obviously
32:08Any authorities
32:10That came sort of asking
32:12I think he probably really felt
32:14Or bond-proofed
32:15That he'd covered dead tracks
32:20Then once Chohan
32:21Was either being held prisoner
32:23Or had already been murdered
32:24Regan and Hornsey
32:25Then had to
32:26Deal with
32:28The rest of the family
32:29They couldn't leave
32:30That avenue open
32:33We'll never know
32:34What exactly took place
32:36In that house
32:37But quite clearly
32:38Regan and Hornsey
32:39Murdered
32:40Nancy Chohan
32:41Murdered
32:42The Charinjic Corps
32:43And most chilling of all
32:45Murdered
32:46Those two young boys
32:47One who was
32:48Eight weeks old
32:50Kenneth Regan
32:51Was a
32:52Fairly major
32:53Criminal
32:54And had been involved
32:56In the large scale
32:57Importation
32:58Of drugs
32:59But it's beyond belief
33:01That they
33:02Went to those lengths
33:04Just for the pure greed
33:06Of taking over this warehouse
33:07So they could use that
33:08As a front
33:09For importing drugs again
33:17Regan and Hornsey
33:18They jumped on a ferry
33:19Went off to France
33:20We know that
33:22They're both wanted
33:23For multiple murders
33:25They've both got
33:26Sort of extensive
33:27Criminal connections
33:28Certainly with the ability
33:29To make false
33:30Documentation
33:31Passports etc
33:35We were able to see
33:37Through cell site analysis
33:38Where Regan's phone was
33:40Where Hornsey's phone was
33:41They were actually in Belgium
33:48So officers were dispatched
33:50And they worked with
33:51The northern part
33:52Of the Belgium authorities
33:54And we identified
33:55Where Regan was
33:59He was tracked down
34:00To a campsite
34:01And was pretty robustly
34:04Taken into custody
34:06He was adamant
34:07He wasn't coming back
34:08Voluntarily
34:10But it was upheld
34:11By the High Court
34:12In Brussels
34:12And we were given
34:1515 days
34:16To extradite him
34:18Basically
34:22Meanwhile
34:22Hornsey
34:23Was elsewhere in Belgium
34:24In the southern part
34:25And we asked
34:26The northern authorities
34:28To contact their
34:29Counterparts
34:30In the southern part
34:31But
34:31One lot were Flemish
34:32And one lot were French
34:34And they didn't really
34:34Talk to each other
34:35So we missed the opportunity
34:38Of arresting Hornsey
34:38In Belgium
34:42Hornsey was just on his own
34:43And didn't seem to have
34:45The same sort of contacts
34:46And connections
34:47And finances
34:48That Regan had had
34:52One Friday afternoon
34:54We got a phone call
34:54From a solicitor
34:56For Hornsey
34:57Saying
34:57Look
34:58He's had enough
34:58He's getting on the ferry
35:00At Calais
35:00Two or three of us
35:01Immediately sort of
35:02Jumped into the car
35:03And shot down to Dover
35:06Literally got there
35:07Just as he was coming
35:08Off the ferry
35:10I arrested him
35:11For murder
35:14And he was brought back
35:15To a London police station
35:17Subsequently interviewed
35:18And ultimately charged
35:21Both Regan and Hornsey
35:23Were interviewed by police
35:24And predictably
35:25Declined to give
35:26Any evidence whatsoever
35:29They never ever ever
35:31Gave an account
35:32Of what they did
35:33And that for me
35:35Spoke volumes by itself
35:47Murder cases
35:48At the Elbele
35:49Are very big stories
35:50And a family
35:51Wiped out entirely
35:53Is a massive story
35:58It's going to be
35:59Front page material
36:01And what's more
36:02It's going to run
36:03For a long, long time
36:06Anker was
36:08Wrought with worry
36:09Whether we'll get
36:10The conviction
36:12There's no
36:13Admission
36:14There's no
36:15Eye witness accounts
36:16Apart from
36:16Circumstantial evidence
36:17Of where they are
36:18Nobody's seen
36:19The killings taking place
36:22Any jury trial
36:24Has unpredictable
36:25Uncertain quality
36:26To it
36:27It was by no means
36:28A foregone conclusion
36:30That this would end
36:30With guilty verdicts
36:34The prosecutor
36:35Took over a day
36:36To outline
36:36All the evidence
36:37Against each of the defendants
36:39Producing what he
36:40Described as a compelling
36:41Case of their guilt
36:44As he described it
36:46Even though they got
36:47What they wanted
36:48The document signed
36:49That they took the decision
36:50Amajid and his family
36:52All had to die
36:54They then went off
36:55And buried them
36:56A week later
36:57In some remote
36:58Part of the country
36:59Hoping the police
37:00Would never discover
37:01The bodies
37:03This gang
37:04Utterly ruthless
37:05Utterly immoral
37:07And utterly intent
37:09On getting away
37:10With their crimes
37:11Was not just the horror
37:13Of what the prosecutor
37:14Was describing
37:15It was the moment
37:16When he produced
37:17I think his trump card
37:19There's almost a universal
37:21Lean forward
37:22And scribbling started
37:23Even more furiously
37:34Claire Austin
37:35From the Forensic Science Service
37:37Rang me
37:37And we just went
37:38Through all the exhibits
37:39Before the trial
37:41There was a pair of pants
37:43And a pair of socks
37:44Which belonged to
37:45Amajid Chohan
37:46Which she had on
37:47When he came out
37:48Of the water
37:49You don't get much evidence
37:51From socks or pants
37:52Normally
37:52Unless it's some sort
37:54Sexual thing going on
37:55But Claire was very thorough
37:56And she said
37:57Well send them up to me
38:01We took it out of the bag
38:02To see if we could
38:03Find anything externally
38:05Whether maybe
38:06Someone had been wearing it
38:07Without their shoes on
38:08There might be some
38:08DNA evidence
38:09On the sole of the sock
38:12I think it was about
38:13Four days later
38:14She rang me back
38:15And said
38:15Oh you're never
38:16Going to believe this
38:19There was a piece of paper
38:20That was folded up
38:21Inside the sock
38:23I remember the realisation
38:25That this could change
38:26The whole case
38:30The letter was a letter
38:32From the Cheltenham
38:32And Gloucester Building
38:33Society
38:34Addressed to
38:35Reagan and
38:37Mr Avery
38:38His father
38:38In relation to
38:40A mortgage for
38:41Forge Close
38:42Where they lived
38:45Which means that
38:46Amajid Chohan
38:47Had been in Forge Close
38:49When he put it
38:50Into his sock
38:53So he was a piece
38:54Of evidence
38:55Which absolutely
38:57Categorically
38:57Put Chohan
38:58In that house
39:00At the time
39:01That he was murdered
39:04It seemed Chohan
39:05Had probably realised
39:07He was going to
39:08Fall foul of these men
39:09And perhaps when he
39:10Was left unattended
39:10For a moment
39:11Must have seen that
39:12Letter on the side
39:13And just thought
39:14If anyone finds me
39:15I'm going to give them
39:16A clue
39:18In headline terms
39:20There's nothing
39:21More exciting
39:22Than evidence
39:23Arriving almost
39:24From beyond the grave
39:33Each defendant
39:35Had a team of their own
39:36Which meant that
39:37Every witness
39:37Was subjected
39:39To one of the defence
39:41Teams individually
39:42Consecutively
39:43Questioning them
39:46I had no idea
39:47That they were going
39:48To go with the angle
39:49That the letter
39:50That was found
39:50In Amajid's sock
39:51Had been planted there
39:53By myself
39:53Or one of the other
39:54Police officers
39:55In the case
39:58It's vital
39:59When collecting
39:59Evidence
40:00In a case like this
40:02To have a chain
40:03Of custody
40:04Between the people
40:06Transporting it
40:07To the evidence store
40:08The evidence store
40:09To the laboratory
40:10The laboratory
40:10To the court
40:11So every person
40:12That handles it
40:13Has to sign the label
40:14So there's a complete
40:15Chain of evidence
40:16So that was done
40:17With everything
40:19Continuity of evidence
40:20Just proves an item
40:21Has not been tampered with
40:22For example
40:23It can't have been planted
40:24Because the
40:25Pathologist put it
40:26Into the brown paper bag
40:27And I was the person
40:28To open it
40:33The police
40:33When they
40:34Retrieved the body
40:35From the sea
40:37In Bournemouth
40:37Gave the defence
40:39The opportunity
40:40To say
40:40How could possibly
40:41A letter survive
40:41Having been in the sea
40:42For two months
40:43Let alone been underground
40:44For several weeks
40:46It did plant
40:48Confusion
40:48In the minds
40:49Of the jury
40:51The letter survived
40:52Because it's been
40:53Folded up
40:55So many times
40:55Into the size
40:57Of a stamp
40:57And because it's
40:59Postage size
41:00And it's really
41:01Squashed together
41:02The seawater
41:04Hasn't got into
41:05The paper
41:18I did worry about jury fatigue
41:50The sheer amount of evidence
41:51But the jury
41:52Have to consider everything
41:53Very carefully
42:05This was a quintuple murder case
42:09Record breaking in terms of length
42:11And amount of evidence
42:12That's produced
42:12It was unbelievably tense
42:15This was a big
42:16Big moment
42:18They come back
42:19And the foreman
42:20The jury stands up
42:21And when he gets asked
42:22Do you find the defendants
42:24Guilty or not guilty
42:26His foreman
42:27Says guilty
42:36It was almost like a release of pressure
42:40Yes we got it through
42:41We've managed it
42:52It was a total sense of relief
42:55We were happy that people
42:57Were found guilty
42:58And justice had been done
42:59It's unfortunate
43:01That Anka cannot be here
43:03And express his concerns
43:05With you
43:05He believes
43:07The death of his nephew's
43:09Very young
43:10Children
43:11Could only be influenced
43:13Was by hatred
43:14And contempt
43:14By the killers
43:49The judge told the two men
43:51Your crimes are uniquely terrible
43:54The cold-blooded murder
43:56Of an eight-week-old baby
43:59And an 18-month-old toddler
44:01Not to mention the murders
44:02Of their mother
44:03Father
44:04And grandmother
44:06Provide a chilling insight
44:08Into the utterly perverted standards
44:11By which you have lived your lives
44:13Your characters
44:15Are as despicable
44:17As your crimes
44:19Each of you
44:20Is a practice
44:20Resourceful
44:21And manipulative liar
44:24For these crimes
44:25You two highly dangerous men
44:27Must now pay
44:29The heaviest sentence
44:31They had no prospect
44:33Of release
44:37That is absolutely
44:38What should have happened
44:39To them
44:39For what they did
44:40How they did it
44:42Lack of remorse
44:44Lack of explanation
44:46It was absolutely
44:47The right sentence
44:51I've dealt with
44:52A huge number of cases
44:54I've met families
44:55In enormous
44:56Tragic circumstances
44:57But I think
44:58Onkar
44:59Is one of the most
45:00Bravest men
45:01That I've ever met
45:02In my life
45:02He's brave
45:03Not just
45:04Because of the enormity
45:06Of the tragedy
45:06That he's had to deal with
45:07He's
45:08Throughout the whole process
45:10Yes he cried
45:11But he kept his composure
45:14And his dignity
45:15And his calmness
45:16Throughout the process
45:17I don't know how
45:18He did it
45:21And
45:22I just
45:23Wish that
45:25We could
45:25Go back
45:26And get his family back
45:30And
45:32To all
45:37So
45:38To all
45:38That
45:38That
45:38You
45:38To all
45:57To all
46:00Gracias por ver el video.
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