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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 104: Ringo Starr, Kal Penn, Bleachers
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Ringo Starr, Cal Penn,
00:08and music from Bleacherous with the Klee Tones!
00:13And now, Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:34Thank you for joining us here from our home-slash-maril-anagist section here in Hollywood.
00:50That's very nice.
00:52I'm glad you're here on the highest of all holidays.
00:56It is April 20th for 2019.
01:00If you don't know the history, according to the legend,
01:03St. Snoop the dog drove the snakes out of Compton on 420-1878 or something like that.
01:10How are you feeling tonight, Guillermo?
01:12I'm feeling good, Jimmy.
01:13Are you celebrating?
01:14Yeah, later on when I get home.
01:16Later on you're going to celebrate.
01:17Yeah, yeah.
01:18Will you celebrate alone or with friends?
01:21No, I will celebrate with my wife.
01:22You will celebrate with your wife?
01:24Yeah.
01:24How nice.
01:25You know, I went to Las Vegas with my wife this weekend,
01:27and we almost didn't get there.
01:29Our flight was delayed and then delayed and then delayed,
01:32and there was no explanation why until we finally got on the ground and we got off the ground.
01:38We landed.
01:38We found out they closed the airspace because guess who decided to fly out of Las Vegas on Friday afternoon
01:45when everyone's trying to fly in?
01:47That's right.
01:48Scammy Davis Jr. was in Vegas to take credit for no tax on tips and to drop this relatable little
01:55gem.
01:56The Great Big Beautiful bill also slashed taxes on millions of American small businesses, including restaurants, strike cleaners, corner stores.
02:05What is a corner store?
02:06I've never heard that term.
02:07I know what a corner store is, but I've never heard it described.
02:10A corner store.
02:11Who the hell wrote that, please?
02:14Yeah, who the hell wrote that?
02:16I mean, of all the crazy things that have come out of his mouth, this is the one he scolds
02:20them for?
02:21And by the way, the man grew up in Queens.
02:23He's never heard of a corner store?
02:26Where did he think his servants were going to get his Twinkies every day?
02:31If you're watching, Mr. President, a corner store is a place where people who aren't billionaires go to buy the
02:37tequila
02:38that helps us forget you're running the country every day.
02:45Fiboracci is back in Washington now.
02:47We are on week eight of Trump's little excursion into the Middle East.
02:51On Friday, he announced that Iran agreed to everything and that the oil was flowing once again.
02:58This will be a great and brilliant day for the world.
03:05Because Iran has just announced that the Strait of Hormuz is fully open and ready for business and full passage.
03:16Okay, that was Friday.
03:17Then on Saturday, Iran contradicted that moment of triumph, saying the Strait was not open for business.
03:24It was closed for business.
03:25And that they had in no way agreed to hand over their uranium or any of this stuff.
03:31The statement was false, which this is all very, especially for those of us who grew up in the 80s.
03:35Did you ever imagine you would be more likely to believe the Ayatollah than the President of the United States?
03:42Or that we would be hearing the words Strait of Hormuz 12 times a day?
03:50Our whole lives, the Strait of Hormuz has been so wide open, we didn't even know it existed.
03:55We put Trump in charge, and in eight weeks, it's been blocked more times than Melania's bedroom door.
04:03And still, with all of this happening, Trump says the war in Iran is going along swimmingly.
04:11Yeah, they're swimming because no one could move their boats anymore.
04:16And because things are going so swimmingly, yesterday, Trump posted,
04:20Iran decided to fire bullets yesterday in the Strait of Hormuz, a total violation of our ceasefire agreement.
04:25Many of them were aimed at a French ship and a freighter from the United Kingdom.
04:29That wasn't nice, was it?
04:31I don't know.
04:32I don't know which bothers me more, the fact that this unnecessary war is still dragging on,
04:36or that our President talks to us like we're in pre-K.
04:39But we are offering a very fair and reasonable deal, and I hope they take it,
04:44because if they don't, the U.S. is going to knock out every single power plant
04:48and every single bridge in Iran.
04:50No more Mr. Nice Guy.
04:52That was Mr. Nice Guy before.
04:54That's all right.
04:54Goodbye, Mr. Nice Guy.
04:56Hello, senor senile psychopath.
05:00Three days ago.
05:03Three days ago, he announced, he made a big announcement
05:06he said, Iran agreed to everything, the Strait is open, gas prices are coming down,
05:12today the Strait's closed, he's back to threatening annihilation,
05:15and the price of gas is as high as half of our audience here right now.
05:23All right, so there are two big stories this weekend.
05:26The Wall Street Journal ran quite a story this weekend that said Trump was so worked up
05:32about the two downed pilots who were rescued, and the possibility that it could hurt him politically
05:38if they were taken hostage.
05:40His aides had to keep him out of the room while they were getting updates on the situation.
05:45At one point, they handed him an iPad and said, sit down, be quiet, make some pictures of the U
05:49.S. Jesus.
05:51The same story says Trump also floated the idea of giving himself the Congressional Medal of Honor,
05:56which is the highest of all the military honors.
06:00Can you imagine if Trump gave himself the, I mean, of course you can imagine it, yes.
06:07He accepted the Nobel Prize as a gift, but what if he doesn't?
06:10What if he puts that around his own neck?
06:12Would that be enough for these zombies who still worship him to wake up?
06:16Can a person even, just fundamentally, can a person give himself an award?
06:21I think it's impossible.
06:22It's like trying to give yourself a reach around.
06:25You know, you can't, you can't do it.
06:29According to those who are there, Trump believes he deserves the Medal of Honor
06:32because his plane flew into Iraq on an unlit runway during a first-term trip to visit troops.
06:38Well, if that's all it takes, anyone who ever flew into Newark deserves the Medal of Honor.
06:45The, um, this is not gonna help Trump's poll numbers, which are now down to 37% approval.
06:52He is currently on the outs with some of his, his formerly biggest fans,
06:57Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Alex Jones, Candace Owens are all mad at his majesty.
07:02And Joe Rogan said a bunch of things.
07:04He said Trump was insane for starting the war.
07:06He's mocked him for the Epstein files.
07:08He mocked him for his bogus Jesus excuse, his vile comments about Rob Reiner.
07:13And that is a problem for Donald Trump because a lot of people listen closely to what Joe Rogan has
07:18to say.
07:18So what does Trump do?
07:20Anything Joe Rogan wants him to do.
07:22So Joe Rogan sends Trump information about a promising psychedelic drug he knows about.
07:28And Trump rubber stamps this like it's a parking validation.
07:32I sent him that information.
07:34The text message came back.
07:36Sounds great.
07:37Do you want FDA approval?
07:39Let's do it.
07:39It was literally that quick.
07:42Is it supposed to be that quick?
07:46Weren't you guys all freaking out when the FDA released the COVID vaccine that quick?
07:50Joe, while you're at it, could you ask him to release the rest of the Trump Epstein files that quick?
07:56Because you might be the only one to listen to.
07:59So Joe Rogan is back in the next fold, I guess, whereas others are out.
08:04Yet another high-profile woman is leaving Trump's cabinet.
08:08First it was Kristi Noem, then Pam Bondi.
08:10Today, Lori Chavez de Reimer resigned from her post as Secretary of Labor.
08:16She doesn't get a lot of attention, but she was reportedly facing a misconduct investigation for allegations of drinking on
08:22the job and having an affair with one of her bodyguards.
08:25She decided to step down today when all the headlines are about our soon-to-be former FBI director, Kash
08:30Patel.
08:31Now, The Atlantic published a doozy of a story about him over the weekend.
08:35They said Kash Patel was so worried about getting the axe, when he had an issue logging onto his computer
08:40ten days ago, he thought he'd been locked out and panicked.
08:44He started frantically calling aides to announce that he'd been fired, according to nine people familiar with this outreach.
08:52He called nine people to tell him he'd been fired.
08:55Turned out it was just an IT issue.
08:59Oops.
09:00Patel is reportedly deeply concerned that he's about to get fired, which, why, I don't know.
09:05Does this look like a paranoid guy to you?
09:08But the story says he has become known for bouts of excessive drinking and unexplained absences, so much so that
09:18on multiple occasions in the past year, members of his security detail had difficulty waking him because he was seemingly
09:25intoxicated.
09:26They requested breaching equipment.
09:29This is the equipment normally used by SWAT and hostage rescue teams to get entry into buildings.
09:34They made those requests last year because Patel was unreachable behind locked doors.
09:39You know you have a problem when SEAL Team 6 shows up to do a wellness check.
09:44I mean, there's drunk and there's go-get-a-battering-ram drunk.
09:50Man, oh, man.
09:51We all thought Pete Hegseth was the Trump poster boy for drinking too much.
09:56All of a sudden, Kash is like, hold my beer and my martini while you're at it.
10:01Patel has vehemently denied the allegations.
10:03Today, he pulled the Trump and filed a $250 million defamation suit against the Atlantic for the story.
10:09Which do you think will last longer?
10:11Kash Patel as head of the FBI or the bananas I bought at Trader Joe's yesterday?
10:18Speaking of intoxicating substances, this is a big night for us because 10 years ago tonight, we debuted a game
10:25called Who's High?
10:26In which I speak to people on Hollywood Boulevard and try to guess which of them is high.
10:31But now that cannabis is legal and it's really almost impossible to find anyone who's not high on 420 on
10:37Hollywood Boulevard.
10:38So tonight, we're going to switch it up a little bit and play Who's Not High?
10:42All right?
10:43Now, our natural news out on the boulevard with three pedestrians.
10:49Quick change, Lou. You really got into that quickly, huh?
10:52Hey, on a special holiday like this, you've got to.
10:55You've got to. Now, Lou, are you high right now?
10:57Not yet.
10:58Okay.
10:59For the benefit of all, including our contestants, explain how we play the game, Lou.
11:03Yeah, so I spent the day looking all over Hollywood Boulevard for people under the influence of marijuana.
11:09Of these three here, two are high and you have to guess which one is not.
11:13Okay.
11:14So we got Jerry, Ali, and Wyatt there.
11:18And the key, Lou, is you're trying to trick me up, right?
11:23I know you're quite good at this, so, you know, we try to make it hard for you, Jimmy.
11:27We're going to start with Jerry. Jerry, what do you do for a living, Jerry?
11:31I'm a musician.
11:32Okay. That's a strike against you just to start.
11:35What kind of music do you play, Jerry?
11:37Uh, not Huey Lewis and the News.
11:39No. Okay. All right. Well, maybe you'll work up to that.
11:43That's true.
11:44Jerry, uh, no, what kind of music do you play, Jerry?
11:46I play rock music, playing metal bands.
11:48You're a heavy metal guy.
11:49Heavy metal all the way.
11:51What instrument do you play?
11:52I'm just a bass player, Jimmy.
11:54Bass player. All right. I think bass players show humility. Would you agree with that?
11:58Sometimes.
11:59Okay. All right. Um, what's the last thing you ate, Jerry?
12:03Hmm. Sushi.
12:05Okay. All right. What time was that?
12:09Maybe an hour ago.
12:11Okay. His hesitation leads me to believe that perhaps he is high.
12:15Okay. Let's speak to Allie. Allie, where are you from, Allie?
12:18I'm originally from Maryland.
12:20You're from Maryland? What do you do for work, Allie?
12:22I'm a professional organizer, so I go into homes and make your stuff look good.
12:26Now, you seem not at all high.
12:29And you look like you just came from an Easter party.
12:34But that makes me think that maybe they're trying to trick me because you do seem super wholesome.
12:42Okay. Can we zoom into Allie's eyes?
12:45And, uh...
12:46All right. Okay.
12:48All right.
12:49And finally, we have Wyatt. Hi, Wyatt.
12:52Hi.
12:53Now, Wyatt...
12:55Where are you from, Wyatt?
12:56I'm from Rochester, New York.
12:57And what do you do for work, Wyatt?
12:59I'm a computer scientist. I'm self-employed.
13:01Oh, you're a scientist?
13:02Computer scientist.
13:04Computer scientist. Okay.
13:05You know, if somebody calls you a scientist, just go with that.
13:09Okay.
13:10Now, Wyatt...
13:11Hi, how are you?
13:12Hi.
13:13No, I...
13:14No, okay.
13:14Well, that's a clue, too, right?
13:19All right.
13:20Okay.
13:21Now, my gut is telling me...
13:24My gut is telling me that Jerry's the guy that's not high because he seems like he'd be the most
13:30likely to be high.
13:31But also, Jerry's eyes look really dilated to me.
13:35And Allie doesn't seem like she'd be high at all, which makes me think that, yeah, she's the one that
13:39they picked.
13:40And then we got Wyatt, who looks for sure looks like he's high.
13:44Maybe I'm just messing with you.
13:45But it makes me think, okay, go into Wyatt's eyes, would you mind?
13:50Yeah.
13:51Yeah.
13:53Let me have one last look at Jerry, also, if you don't mind.
13:56Jerry, let's get real tight on you.
14:00Okay.
14:01All right.
14:03All right.
14:03Yeah, okay.
14:04All right.
14:05I'm gonna...
14:06All right.
14:07I'm gonna go with my gut.
14:08I'm gonna say Jerry is not high.
14:10Jerry, are you high?
14:11I am not high.
14:13Yes!
14:18All right.
14:21All right.
14:22Well, we've got prizes for all of you to celebrate.
14:25We have four new pot-themed mini-documentaries on Hulu called 4x20, including a documentary about Harold and Kumar.
14:33And we have our own White Castle vending machine out on the boulevard to serve you piping hot burgers.
14:40Right, Guillermo?
14:41That's right, Jimmy.
14:41Show me how it works, Guillermo.
14:42Hit it.
14:43Hit the button or whatever.
14:44Stop the screen right here.
14:45Yeah.
14:46And you will get three wonderful cheeseburgers right here.
14:48You will get three wonderful cheeseburgers.
14:50Yes.
14:51And there you go.
14:52Three wonderful cheeseburgers for our contestant.
14:55Give them to our contestants, please, Guillermo.
14:56Yeah, there we go.
14:57One.
14:58Thank you, Jerry.
14:59Thank you, Ally.
15:00And thank you, Wyatt.
15:01Thank you for playing...
15:02And one for me.
15:03Who's not high?
15:08All right.
15:09We have a great show tonight.
15:11Kyle Penn is here.
15:11We have music from Bleachers.
15:13And we'll be back with the one, the only, Ringo Starr.
15:17We'll be back for it.
15:26Hi, there.
15:26We'll be back.
15:27Tonight, an interesting gentleman you can see most lately in the new weed-themed mini-docuseries
15:32on Hulu.
15:33It's called 420 Quick Hits.
15:35Cal Penn is with us tonight.
15:37And then later...
15:39They are from New Jersey.
15:40Their new album, Everyone for Ten Minutes, comes out May 22nd.
15:44Music from Bleachers tonight.
15:46This week, we have new shows with Ray Romano, Adam Scott, Jon Favreau.
15:52Tracy Morgan will be here.
15:53Governor Tim Walz will be here.
15:55And James Taylor is here with us tomorrow night, too.
15:58So please join us for all that.
16:00All right.
16:01While we're on the subject of music legends, our first guest goes by one name or two.
16:06It doesn't matter.
16:06He's the most famous drummer the world has ever known.
16:09He has a new album.
16:10It is produced by T-Bone Burnett.
16:12It's called...
16:13Oh, it's backwards.
16:14It's called Long Long Road.
16:16It comes out Friday.
16:17Please welcome Ringo Starr.
16:55Hey, you really are Ringo Starr.
16:57I mean, you don't disappoint.
16:58You come out, everybody goes nuts, you give them a little energy.
17:00It's exciting to see you.
17:02It really is.
17:03Really?
17:04Yeah.
17:06You don't celebrate 420.
17:08That's not, uh...
17:09Not anymore.
17:10No, no, no.
17:11You don't smoke it no more.
17:13I don't smoke it no more.
17:14That's right, right.
17:15Do you ever miss it?
17:16Do you miss being part of the festivities?
17:18No, I feel more part of the world.
17:21You do, yeah.
17:22Yeah, that's nice.
17:23But it's that little space where it's all so beautiful.
17:27I saw you out in the wild at your friend Paul's concert,
17:31Paul McCartney's concert, a couple of weeks ago.
17:33Wasn't that great?
17:34It was fantastic.
17:36He played at theater.
17:38You know, for him, he's used to bigger places.
17:41Right.
17:42The band was great.
17:43He was great.
17:44All the seats were taken from the front, so they stood.
17:48The atmosphere.
17:49I loved it.
17:50You know, I love that you loved it.
17:52I think he's tired of me telling him since we did that.
17:54Is he?
17:55Oh, man, I just love that.
17:57I saw you.
17:58It made me feel so good to know that you were there
18:01and, like, supporting your friend in an enthusiastic way.
18:04Not just like, eh, he wants me to come, I'm going to come.
18:07Yeah, no, I'm going to come because I want to see him.
18:09Do you, when you're watching him, when you're in the audience watching Paul,
18:13or anyone, really, but especially watching Paul,
18:16do you feel like, do you go, like, I'd like to get on stage,
18:18or are you happier watching him?
18:20And what happens, I've got on stage with him four or five times.
18:25Right.
18:27And it's great to play with him.
18:29You know, it's still great for me to play with Paul.
18:33Yeah, I love that.
18:34That's fantastic.
18:35Now, you guys have a duet coming out on his album that is coming out next month, right?
18:43That's exciting.
18:44Were you jealous?
18:45That's the first time you've done a duet together, right?
18:47Yes, but it's, where it came from is so crazy,
18:50because the producer of that record lives just down the block.
18:54And I went down, and there was a kid in his studio,
18:58and he played guitar, and we jammed.
19:01And then I thought, I started making a record.
19:04I said, Andrew, send me that, you know, that bit we did of the jamming.
19:10And he never did.
19:14But anyway, underneath the duo that Paul and I do, the song,
19:21Yeah.
19:21It started with my drums from that day, two years ago.
19:27Oh, two years ago.
19:28And then Paul got the song and put everything else on it.
19:32So it's like it was in reverse.
19:35The drums are up first.
19:36Oh.
19:37Oh, yeah, that is interesting.
19:39And then you played the vocals in?
19:40But it's really great.
19:40And it's very, it's amusing, and it's very real, because that's where we come from.
19:45Oh, good.
19:46There's some fun in there, too.
19:47Yeah, yeah.
19:47Were you jealous when Paul asked Stevie Wonder to sing Ebony and Ivory with him instead of you?
19:52I was for a minute.
19:57You guys FaceTime regularly.
20:00I've read this.
20:01I assume that's true.
20:02You talk about old stuff or new stuff?
20:04We talk about now.
20:06We talk about our kids, and we talk about our life, and we talk about this, that, and the other.
20:10What do you talk about?
20:11Hello, darling.
20:13Nothing's happening.
20:15You guys were roommates when the Beatles were touring.
20:18You'd stay.
20:18Well, we were always four of us in two rooms.
20:22So I was roommates with everybody, and they were, you know, Paul was roommates with everybody.
20:28Depends where they put the suitcases.
20:30We just went.
20:31We just went.
20:32Just following the suitcases?
20:34Yeah.
20:35That's crazy.
20:36But I assume you've reached a point in your fame where you were no longer rooming together,
20:42or did you continue to room together?
20:45Right up to the last day of the last tour, or the last night of the last tour, we shared.
20:52Wow.
20:53When you visit each other.
20:56That's really cool.
20:58When you visit each other at your homes, do you get into bed together ever?
21:02No.
21:03No, not anymore.
21:07Who would be the man, outside of maybe your family, the man that you've slept with the
21:11most?
21:11Would that be Paul?
21:12Well, actually, I'd like to tell you I slept with the three of them.
21:16You slept with all three of them?
21:20You know, Sam Mendes, the director, as you know, is making movies about each of you, about
21:25each of the Beatles.
21:27And then, I don't know, are they going to release them all at once?
21:29They say that.
21:30They say they're going to release them all at once.
21:32Were you a part of that?
21:34I was a part of it on my script.
21:36Mm-hmm.
21:37And I went over to England last year, and we spent two days together.
21:44And there was a few things I didn't like.
21:47Uh-huh, that you didn't feel were right about.
21:48And Sam was great.
21:50I don't like that.
21:51Okay.
21:51He just threw it out.
21:52Yeah.
21:53Barry Keoghan is playing you.
21:55Barry's playing me, yeah.
21:56Is he somebody, were you familiar with his work before this?
21:59I was, you know, I'd seen him in the movies, but he came to my house last year.
22:05He was here.
22:06He told us that he went to study you.
22:08Yeah.
22:09And I, it was really weird in a way, because you, you know, hey, how you doing, man?
22:14And he's like...
22:18I just made that up.
22:21Did you give him any pointers on how to be you?
22:24No.
22:24No, I just, as long as I'm being me, he's getting everything he needs.
22:28Did he ask for any pointers on how to be you?
22:31No, he didn't.
22:31He just came over.
22:32Just came over and watched you.
22:33Hung out and said this, that, and the other.
22:36And then, see you later.
22:39Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, that's got to be just a strange thing, though.
22:42This guy's going to play you.
22:43I think he's, I imagine he's going to do a good job playing.
22:46I think so.
22:47If you didn't like him as a...
22:49You know the thing I had to really do?
22:51What?
22:52Because it's a script.
22:54I was, like, looking at it as a documentary.
22:59And once, once I finally said, it's not a documentary, it's a film, I could relax.
23:05Gotcha, yeah.
23:06You know?
23:06A lot of it's going to be fictionalized, and that's all there is to it.
23:09Yeah.
23:09Well, you know, I'll have my film, and I'm sure the other three will visit me.
23:15John will have his film, and I'm sure we'll visit him.
23:18Yeah.
23:18So it's like, you know, only Sam could figure this out.
23:23When I was a disc jockey, when I was a kid, I was, like, 20 years old.
23:27I was working at a radio station in Seattle, and I hosted Breakfast with the Beatles on Sunday mornings.
23:32But at the time, I knew all your music.
23:34I didn't really know anything about the Beatles.
23:37Yeah.
23:37So I would just make it up.
23:41And people would get very, very angry calling me to the radio station.
23:45Yeah.
23:45And luckily, it was Sunday, so the receptionist didn't get the phone calls.
23:49I took them myself and promised to report myself to the manager.
23:54But I just wish one of those angry callers could see me right now talking to Ringo.
24:02This is Ringo's new album, Long, Long Road.
24:06It comes out Friday.
24:17Ringo Starr is with us.
24:19This is his 22nd solo album, Long, Long Road.
24:25And very few nights do country music.
24:29It's really rare in the night.
24:30Well, I love country music, and I did do a country music album, and...
24:35A couple of them before, right?
24:3672, just one.
24:37Just one.
24:38Okay, all right.
24:3972, and with Pete Drake, who was great.
24:41Have you ever owned a pickup truck?
24:44No.
24:45We should get you one for sure.
24:47I want to ask you about something, because this is, uh, this is interesting.
24:51So you're wearing this purple shirt, and then if you were to open this up, you see this.
24:59Is this the same shirt, or is it a replica?
25:03No, it's the very same shirt, and that shirt is older than most of your audience are.
25:11Oh, yeah, yeah.
25:14Now, I have one more question about the shirt, because we were looking at the Get Back documentary,
25:21and George appears to be wearing the very same shirt.
25:26Well, I stole it.
25:28You did?
25:30No.
25:31I had my shirt, he had his shirt.
25:33Did you have this?
25:34You know, we shared a lot of stuff, but hey, you have it.
25:38No.
25:38Wow, that's unbelievable.
25:40I got another picture here.
25:41This is from your...
25:42You had a listening party here in L.A.
25:44There's, uh, you, uh, Sean Penn, Jeff Bridges, John Mellencamp, and T-Bone Burnett.
25:49Yeah.
25:50That's, uh, that's a pretty solid group right there.
25:53Yeah.
25:54When you have a listening party...
25:56What can you say?
25:56I mean, that was great.
25:57They came along, we had a playback, and, uh, which, you know, is bigger in America, I mean,
26:03than England.
26:04I want to ask you about a listening party, because I've been to a couple of them in my life,
26:09and I'm always confused, okay?
26:11So you play the record, and everybody sits around and listens to the record.
26:15Yeah.
26:15When I am a guest at your listening party, what am I supposed to do?
26:20Listen to the record.
26:22Uh-huh.
26:22And if you have a question, or you want to say hi, you do that to me, the artist.
26:28What about while I'm listening to the record?
26:31Are you looking at me to see how I'm...
26:33I'm not there.
26:33You're not there?
26:35No, I'm just in the next room having a party.
26:37Okay.
26:38Okay, good.
26:39All right.
26:39That's better.
26:40Yeah, yeah.
26:41Because otherwise...
26:42Then you can just relax and listen to the record.
26:43Yeah, because I don't want to sit there and go, I'm going like this.
26:46And then, guess who's coming?
26:47Yeah!
26:47And doing that kind of stuff.
26:49Okay, good.
26:49That makes me feel more comfortable.
26:51Good.
26:51Um, this is the most famous album cover in the world.
26:55Would you agree with that?
26:56Yeah.
27:02Now, which one of them is stoned?
27:12I guess you'd have to tell me.
27:15Were you guys stoned when you shot this?
27:17No.
27:17No.
27:18Um, did you ever hear from anybody who goes like, oh, man, that's my Volkswagen?
27:23Uh, we never did, but that's what, you know, made it real.
27:27You know, this was, we sat there in deep conversation about the album cover.
27:33And we should go to, like, Egypt and do the pyramids, you know, stand by the pyramids.
27:39Or we should go here where they, you know, there's something great in that city.
27:43Go to Rome, go to, you know.
27:46Uh, why don't we just walk across the road?
27:48Just across the road.
27:50Okay.
27:51Yeah.
27:53I've been there, and I, of course, took a picture in the intersection there.
27:56And it seems the drivers are not that thrilled about everybody taking pictures all the time.
28:01You've cursed that neighborhood in general.
28:03Well, what about, like, the people, like, like this guy back here and these people?
28:08Are these people that you know?
28:10No.
28:10No.
28:11They're just strangers.
28:11No idea.
28:12We just got off our seats, walked out the front door, and walked across.
28:17Have you, Ringel, ever been pulled over by the cops?
28:20Yeah.
28:20And do they see you and go keep, continue on?
28:24They used to in the 60s.
28:26Uh-huh.
28:27And, um, you know, one guy at one cop pulled me over and stopped me.
28:33May have been going a little fast.
28:35Uh-huh.
28:35He said, Ringel, slow down.
28:37If anything happens to you, my daughter will be miserable.
28:41That's a nice way of doing it.
28:43Yeah, yeah.
28:44Has Ringel ever been in a Waymo?
28:49I don't know what a Waymo is.
28:52I think you know.
28:53They're those cars that don't have drivers out on the street here in L.A.
28:58No.
28:59You've never been in one?
29:00No.
29:00Do you have any desire to get into one?
29:02No, I like to drive myself.
29:04Okay.
29:04Have you ever been in a Costco?
29:07What's that?
29:11It's only the best place on the planet Earth.
29:13Oh.
29:14I don't know.
29:15I still don't know what you mean.
29:16Had you, uh, what was the last time you had to show, besides, like, the airport, ID to prove?
29:22Well, I had it, uh, two tours ago.
29:26You know, we were touring America.
29:29I didn't bring, you know, a passport or anything.
29:33And we got to one airport, and they wanted identification.
29:37And I, I, well, you know, say you were at the airport, I said, well, ask anybody out there.
29:43And all these people would say, well, we can't let you through without it.
29:50Anyway, they called home security or whatever.
29:54And they said, okay, well, we're going to let you get on the plane, but you have to go and
29:58be smelt by the dog.
29:59Oh.
30:00So I went and got, the dog sniffed me, and then I got on the plane.
30:06Wow.
30:08Beautiful.
30:09Have you ever asked someone else for an autograph?
30:14No.
30:15Never have.
30:17Probably never will.
30:19You never know.
30:21Well, it's great to have you here.
30:23I really, I love having you here.
30:24It's so much fun to get to talk to you.
30:25It's like, if I have a record, Jimmy's going to call me.
30:27And this is the record right there.
30:29It's called Long, Long Road.
30:31Ringo Starr, everybody.
30:33It comes out Friday.
30:35Thank you, Ringo.
30:36We'll be back with Cal Ben.
30:44I love Tater Tots.
30:46Oh, no, Guillermo.
30:47These are Tater Nuts.
30:50Oraida invented Tater Tots, so they're the only ones who can make the real thing.
30:53But these are soggy.
30:55I will stay with the original Oraida Tater Tots.
31:00Crispy.
31:03Oraida, there's only one original.
31:11Hi, welcome back.
31:12Again, from Bleachers on the way.
31:15Our next guest is known for his work at both the White House and White Castle.
31:19He is an integral part of a new series of short, pop-themed mini documentaries produced by me,
31:25of all people.
31:26Four by 20 Quick Hits is on Hulu starting tonight.
31:29Four 20.
31:30Please welcome Cal Penn.
31:42Welcome, welcome, Cal.
31:43Thank you, sir.
31:44Thank you, thank you.
31:45I heard you met Ringo.
31:47I sure did.
31:48That's exciting.
31:48Very, very exciting.
31:49Was that your first Beatle meeting?
31:51Uh, you know, uh, I actually, I, technically, yes.
31:55Okay.
31:56Um, I saw Paul McCartney once.
31:59Okay.
32:00Uh, at Michelle Obama's 50th birthday party.
32:02Oh, in like a social situation.
32:03I know, that's like, that's like the, the douchiest name drop that you could do when you
32:07work.
32:08But yes.
32:08But you worked there in the, in the White House.
32:10This was after I, after I worked there.
32:12And it was just, it was, you know, it was a really fun, massive birthday party.
32:15And I, I had had, you know, I'd had like, like seven drinks, maybe.
32:19Great.
32:19So I told myself that that was too many drinks to meet Ringo Starr.
32:24Like two drinks.
32:24I mean, to meet Paul McCartney.
32:25Yeah.
32:26Two drinks is like your, your, you know, your socially lubricated.
32:29Seven is like on your road to Kash Patel level.
32:32Yeah.
32:33Drinks.
32:34Yeah.
32:34And I just didn't want to.
32:36Seven drinks.
32:36In that White House, you didn't want to.
32:37You're running the FBI.
32:38Yeah, yeah.
32:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:40Yeah.
32:41Well, have, have you ever thought about running for office?
32:44Because I know, I know you had a job in politics.
32:47But have you thought about that?
32:49Thanks for the one woo.
32:50I, um, I think my polling indicates that I shouldn't.
32:54Uh, I, I also just, I mean, are, is, are there going to be any more elections?
32:59I just, uh, assume maybe making movies.
33:01You probably know better than I will.
33:02Yeah.
33:03If there are more elections, is it something that you, it's never crossed your mind?
33:07I would, I would love to continue to serve in some other way, but I really love what
33:11we do so much.
33:13Unless, again, you know, if there's an opening at the FBI.
33:17You, oh, by the way, thank you for being part of these, uh, 4x20 quick hit documentaries.
33:22Uh, we, we made one about the origin story of Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
33:28It's really a great, it's a crazy story.
33:30It's an insane story, aren't you?
33:32And it was really fun to make.
33:33I mean, thank you for, thank you for making them.
33:36Did you, at the time, did you have any idea, I know, you know, you don't know if something's
33:40going to be successful or not, that it would become, like, a stoner classic?
33:43No.
33:43No clue.
33:44Like, no clue that it was going to go anywhere that people would love it.
33:47And I have to say, like, today, even today, people come up to, uh, me on the street and
33:53offer joints not just on a day as auspicious as 420.
33:57Uh, but just...
33:58You probably get it a lot, right?
33:59It's a lot, constantly, and you think two things.
34:01Like, one, if your biggest job hazard in the world is people offering you free marijuana
34:04over a 20-year period, it shows you the humanity in people.
34:09Yes.
34:10And also, like, our fans are truly across the political spectrum.
34:15So, like, when I see the stuff that you have to deal with, I just think, like, this is
34:20not my experience, because I have the MAGA crowd handing me joints in certain places
34:25going, we love you, man.
34:26And I'm like...
34:27You might be surprised to learn that will happen to me on occasion, as well.
34:31I have, by the vast, mostly positive experiences with everyone, yes.
34:37But, yeah, you're right.
34:38Maybe we need to, like, hotbox Congress or something.
34:41It's not a bad idea.
34:42Yeah.
34:43Everybody together.
34:44Yeah.
34:44It couldn't be worse.
34:45It could not be worse.
34:47It could not be worse.
34:47So, um, uh, 22 years since you made the movie.
34:52Yeah.
34:52When's the last time you watched it?
34:54I actually haven't seen it in probably a decade.
34:56You haven't, really?
34:57And it's the...
34:58Some of the lines are so, um, specific and so vulgar...
35:03Yeah?
35:04...that I forget that I said them.
35:06And then I'll be walking down the street, like, with my nephew, and somebody will just
35:11yell, like, like, one of them.
35:13I'm like, that is a terrible...
35:14Oh, I said that.
35:15I said that line.
35:16I said that line 22 years ago, and I'm...
35:19And I stand by it.
35:21Do you have, like...
35:22Is there something that really stands out for you when you're thinking of, like, of the
35:26actual making of that film?
35:27Yeah, there are a couple of things.
35:29You know, we...
35:29In the second film, um, instead of a topless party, the guys go to a bottomless party.
35:35Right.
35:35And the first shot of that scene...
35:37It's a good idea, by the way.
35:38Phenomenal idea.
35:40They, uh, um, John Cho said to me before we started shooting that scene, remember this
35:45day, because people will talk about how we did a bottomless party instead of a topless
35:50one.
35:50And he wasn't wrong.
35:51Like, that had...
35:51That had happened.
35:52Now, would you and John, have you ever...
35:54Do you talk about ever talking about doing another of these films?
35:58We have talked about doing another one of these.
36:00And what's been crazy over the last 20 years is some of my favorite projects that I've
36:05worked on stemmed from Harold and Kumar.
36:07Like what?
36:07Go to White Castle.
36:08So, I'm in season four of Industry on HBO.
36:11Okay.
36:12And Mickey and Conrad, the two guys who created that show, are big Harold and Kumar fans.
36:15And that's how they thought of you?
36:17And that's how they thought of me for this.
36:18So, anytime somebody asks me, are we doing a fourth one, I always think of all the, like,
36:22the joyous stuff that we got to work on because of it.
36:24So, John Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg, who created the franchise, are writing the
36:29fourth movie with Josh Heald, who they created Cobra Kai with, and we're hoping to make a
36:35fourth movie.
36:36Oh, that's great.
36:37They're writing it right now.
36:38Oh, that's great.
36:39Yeah.
36:39And I've seen the outline.
36:41They've walked me through the outline.
36:43It's...
36:43I hope we get to make this thing.
36:45It's very, very fun.
36:45One of the most...
36:46One of the best things, I think, about the whole deal is listening to the marketing guy
36:51at White Castle talk about how he had to, like, get his boss on board with this idea of using
36:59their franchise in this film.
37:01And I think it was a really ballsy thing to do.
37:04It was ballsy, but I also feel like that conversation had to be like, you know our audience,
37:09right?
37:09You know who...
37:10You know who comes at two in the morning, right?
37:12We should do this.
37:14Corporations tend to be very, very conservative when it comes to that kind of stuff.
37:18Especially back then.
37:19For something...
37:20Especially back then.
37:20It was very illegal.
37:22Yeah, right.
37:22And it's very not today.
37:23Yeah.
37:24At least in most places.
37:25It could have been Harold and Kumar go to Arby's had things gone differently.
37:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:28It doesn't have the same ring.
37:30It doesn't.
37:30And you know what?
37:31I remember talking to John Hurwitz early when we were shooting that film, and I was a
37:35little jaded, and I thought, I don't think you can get two guys who look like us to
37:39make a movie like this before he sold it.
37:41And he said, Cal, I am making Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
37:44I am not making David and Jason go to McDonald's.
37:47And I just thought that was very funny.
37:48And he...
37:49You know, they sold their script.
37:51There you go.
37:52Well, thank you for being here on this auspicious evening.
37:54Yes, thank you guys.
37:57420 Crickets is on WeMoon now.
37:59Cal Penn, everybody.
38:00We'll be back with WeMoon.
38:08Well, I want to thank Ringo Starr.
38:10Ringo and his all-star band go on tour starting May 28th.
38:13Thanks to Cal Penn.
38:15Apologies to Matt Damon.
38:16Nightline is next.
38:17But first, their new album, Everyone for 10 Minutes, comes out May 22nd.
38:22Here with the song, The Van Bleachers.
38:38Come on!
38:41Come on!
38:56I left the house years ago
38:59Here's the story about a kid in a shadow
39:03Who just didn't want to be lonely
39:09Started to fly, she got sick
39:12Pulled up and down and spun out real quick
39:16Who just didn't want to be lonely
39:21I pulled into a Wawa in Philly in 2000
39:25Blue magic coming from the speaker at the gas pump
39:28All Jersey kids, we never learned to pump gas
39:32So we sat there with the soundtrack
39:34Met them all the way to Firehouse Glory Days
39:38Packed the van and spun through, be cool
39:41Man, those drive-thru years really went slow
39:44Wawa likes the new interviews, make a hand
39:47Packed the van, our time was there
39:50That's the story about kids in a shadow
39:54We just didn't want to be lonely
39:58I still sing
39:59Glory to the ones who know the van
40:03Like glory to the ones on the edge
40:06I just don't want to be lonely
40:09I think some of us need to chip away
40:15What we don't understand
40:16Slowly coming over it
40:19Slowly getting under it
40:22Cause there's no getting over it
40:25So we drove back from the west
40:27With our new religion then
40:28One-way tickets in heart and in hand
40:31Except anything in my way
40:33This is forever now
40:35And just like that, everything changed
40:41That's the thing about loving your shadow
40:50Three years from there
40:52I left the house
40:53And saw her standing on my rooftop
40:56She said, I just don't want to be lonely
41:03I said, I just don't want to be lonely
41:09You know, I just don't want to be lonely
41:34Thank you
41:37You
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