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My Lover, My Killer - Season 1 - Episode 06: Zatoon Bib
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00:07Kaley Hanks and Ian Payton are irresistibly drawn to each other
00:11despite their obvious differences.
00:16There was many a times where she said, just don't go back,
00:20don't, you know, but she loved him and there was nothing we could do.
00:27It was an off-and-on relationship.
00:30Seeing Kaley merely speaking to someone in the street
00:33was enough to make him think she had to die.
00:37Would anyone see the danger lurking beneath the surface
00:40of the turbulent relationship before it was too late?
00:59Bexhill-on-Sea, an ideal environment to raise a family,
01:02something Kaley Hanks was told that she'd never have the chance to do.
01:07She thought every woman's prerogative was to have a baby
01:11and she found it kind of hard being around others that had babies.
01:16She generally did find it hard.
01:20It broke her.
01:24Family was everything to Kaley Hanks,
01:26as DCI Andy Wilsonholm would one day discover.
01:30Everything that we learned from friends, from family,
01:34was that she was absolutely committed to her family,
01:38especially her relationship with her mum Sue and her sister Emma.
01:42Keen to replicate the family life that she'd enjoyed when growing up,
01:46car home worker Kaley had married young,
01:48but very soon the relationship was on shifting sands.
01:55Her first marriage, it wasn't a bad one.
02:00At first, very loving.
02:02Then Kaley was told that she couldn't have children.
02:06And so being a very, very sort of optimistic and driven person,
02:10she threw herself into life.
02:12She wanted to make something of her career,
02:15she wanted to make something of her life,
02:16she wanted to travel.
02:18So they separated and they were in the middle of a divorce.
02:25So amicable was the split that the couple was still living happily together as housemates,
02:30when in 2016,
02:32Kaley met sales rep, Ian Payton.
02:35She was out with a friend one night in the local pub.
02:40Then that closed and she met him in a strip club.
02:44Kaley and Ian both, I think, very sociable people.
02:47They enjoyed spending time with other people and that's exactly what they were doing when they met.
02:52They were out socialising with friends.
02:55He gave the chase.
02:57He booed and cooed her.
03:00Ian won Kaley over,
03:02but almost immediately her new lover started laying down the law.
03:12He didn't like the fact that she was still in her marital home with her husband.
03:18Didn't think it was right.
03:19They were living together.
03:21Always had the thought of them sleeping with each other still.
03:26Like, and it got very cold.
03:30So he made her then move out.
03:35He didn't want her having anything to do with her husband
03:38and made her move in with him.
03:42It was an early sign of how Ian Payton was going to be.
03:45But he largely hid his behaviour from Kaley's family.
03:48The slightly older man charmed them whenever he could.
03:53He obviously was very good at this.
03:55He was obviously very, very good at this manipulation
03:57because Kaley's sister, Emma, was completely won over by him.
04:02She thought he was fabulous.
04:03You know, nice guy.
04:05Come across very nice, you know, very fun, bubbly, you know, genuine.
04:10From the first word, my mum didn't like him.
04:14My partner didn't like him.
04:16My kids seemed to have loved him,
04:18but other people was a bit shady around him.
04:23Kaley moved into Ian's flat in St. Leonard's,
04:26a small town just along the coast from Bex Hill.
04:29Very quickly, their relationship became volatile.
04:34I think people that we've spoken to about Kaley and Ian's relationship
04:38have described it as being a toxic relationship,
04:42a really complex relationship,
04:43one that started off really strong
04:47and then deteriorated into something that was absolutely untenable.
04:57The couple would have bitter arguments,
05:00but Ian made sure his was the version of events that everybody heard about.
05:05He would always be the first one to mention an argument
05:08or an upset that they have
05:10and always try to make it out that it was Kaley rather than both of them.
05:15It felt a bit like tit for tat.
05:18Each suspected the other of infidelity
05:20and Ian was happy to play on Kaley's jealousy.
05:24He would hide text messages.
05:27He would sit there on his phone
05:29and then Kaley would walk back into the room
05:31and he'd quickly put it away,
05:33sleep with his phone underneath the pillow.
05:36Just generally, like,
05:39helped to make her feel a bit paranoid.
05:40And it was happening all the time.
05:42And then he would say, like,
05:44I'm not having an affair.
05:47You're thinking...
05:48You're thinking it.
05:50I'm not doing it.
05:51And trying to make her feel like she was going mad.
05:55Jill Bond, a former police inspector
05:57who specialises in domestic abuse,
05:59recognises this as part of a pattern of behaviour,
06:02a worrying one.
06:04That form of coercive control,
06:06that form of head working, as it's known,
06:09gaslighting, making the person believe
06:10that actually they are the ones at fault,
06:13questioning themselves, questioning their own sanity.
06:17He would kick her out.
06:19And then so she'd have to sleep on the side of a road
06:21or someone's porch
06:23or, like, wherever she could find.
06:25She was sleeping rough on park benches
06:29if she ever had the temerity to disagree with this man.
06:33She was being treated less than a dog.
06:36And then he would ring her back up
06:38and say,
06:39come back,
06:41and everything's fine.
06:42Just a lot of mental games.
06:46At home, she was never able to wear pyjamas.
06:50She always had to brush her hair
06:52and do her make-up, wear nice clothes.
06:55Very much had to be doled up if they went out.
06:58Had to, like, buy things new.
07:01Always, like, if we went out, like, to the pub or something.
07:06It was always she had to present herself well.
07:09She wasn't allowed to down-dress
07:10or go out kind of relaxed.
07:14She had to be always done up and smart
07:16and kind of present herself to everyone as his.
07:19She would have to make that effort
07:21and then be told off
07:23because everybody was looking at her
07:25and giving her attention,
07:27which he didn't like.
07:29Social occasions were a frequent flashpoint for the couple
07:32when, under the influence of drink or drugs,
07:35Peyton could be especially cruel.
07:41Went out for a meal altogether.
07:44Went back to Ian's.
07:46Had a few more drinks.
07:48Kayleigh and Emma went outside.
07:49I mean, maybe for a cigarette or whatever reason,
07:51they went outside.
07:52When they tried to come back inside,
07:54they couldn't get in.
07:55And they couldn't get in
07:56because Ian had locked the door.
07:59Like, literally, he locked us out.
08:01It was raining.
08:04They had to beg him
08:06to allow them to come in
08:07and he told them they could not.
08:11Then he let us back in
08:13and Kayleigh was like,
08:14oh, I'm sorry.
08:14And he was like, no, you're not sorry.
08:16And she was like, I love you.
08:18And he was like, no, you don't.
08:19Otherwise, you wouldn't have gone out.
08:21And she said, I do.
08:22And he was like, prove it.
08:23And she was like, well, how do you want me to prove it?
08:25And he then said, well, get down on your hands and knees
08:29and tell me how much you love me.
08:31As far as alarm bells go,
08:33must be just about the biggest alarm bell
08:35you could possibly hear.
08:37Horrified, Emma Hanks watched as her sister
08:40submitted to Payton's demand.
08:42And she got down on her hands and knees
08:44and then said, I love you.
08:46And he's like, no, it's not good enough.
08:48And in the end, she was like on her knees,
08:50like in the pro position.
08:52And it's like, I love you.
08:54I love you.
08:54I love you, please.
08:55And then he was like, oh, get up.
08:58Like, as in like, stop being desperate
09:00and then started laughing at her.
09:04Neither Kaylee nor her family knew
09:05of something else about Payton.
09:07If they had, it would have worried them deeply.
09:10Detectives would learn of Payton's violent ways.
09:14Ian, I think, showed a real propensity
09:16for grabbing people's throat.
09:19And through police investigations,
09:20we were able to identify that there were other instances
09:23where Ian had grabbed people by the throat
09:26in violent attacks, in public and in private.
09:29And it seemed to us to be his go-to move.
09:33It's, you know, the sort of aggressive act
09:35that he went to first of all.
09:39The first occasion upon which he put hands on Kaylee's neck
09:42was not the first occasion upon which he'd done that to anybody.
09:46He had done it to a former girlfriend.
09:48He had done it to a male friend.
09:51How long could Kaylee ride the crest
09:54of Payton's ever-changing moods and stay alive?
09:58He pointed his two fingers at her forehead
10:01and said, no-one would believe you anyway.
10:04You're crazy, you're mental.
10:23Periods of stability and calm were few and far between
10:25in the world of Ian Payton and Kaylee Hanks.
10:28Their phones gave the topsy-turvy game away.
10:31There were a large volume of messages
10:34from both sets of phones that we recovered.
10:38DCI Andy Wilsenholm would soon be tasked
10:40with building a picture of the couple's life together.
10:44I think they really tell a story of a real mixed relationship,
10:48one where there are periods that people are incredibly happy together
10:53and it's a really strong, loving relationship,
10:54and then these periods of real distrust and anger with each other
10:58and also some concern about the state of the relationship.
11:02And I think they show in everyday life the sort of rollercoaster
11:06that Ian and Kaylee went on through their time together.
11:11On one occasion in 2017,
11:13sister Emma thought the couple had split up for good.
11:16So they'd had an argument and asked,
11:19and Kaylee had asked Ian to stay away from her
11:21and not contact either me or her or any of my family ever again.
11:27He moved her stuff out of his house
11:31and brought it back to Kaylee and Gavin's marital home.
11:35Then I went home thinking everything had settled
11:39and about half an hour Kaylee said she was coming over with Ian.
11:45Then they pulled up
11:47and Kaylee automatically just jumped out the car
11:50and said he's just grabbed me by the hair
11:53and slammed my head down on the dashboard.
11:59Thing to remember here, he is 19 stone.
12:02He is six foot tall and twice her size.
12:05And he leans across and smashes this poor girl's face
12:09off of the dashboard of the car.
12:11And when they get to her sister's house, she tells her sister.
12:13And he just flatly denies it, denies that it happened.
12:17And he was like, no, no, I didn't, no, I didn't.
12:20She hit me, she smacked me across the face.
12:23My partner then asked him just to get in the car and go.
12:27And then Kaylee kicked the door on his shin.
12:33Not very long after that, he dragged her out of the car by her hair.
12:37And again, she told her family and he just denied it happened.
12:41Though Kaylee's family knew some of what she suffered
12:44at her boyfriend's hands, much later on, more would come to light.
12:48Quite a lot of the things that she'd said, we didn't witness.
12:53Kaylee did keep diaries, she did keep notes.
12:56And I do think that she was concerned about her relationship with Ian.
13:01Her words would eventually be read out in court.
13:05Ian keeps telling me I'm no good.
13:07Ian would kick me out and I would leave and sleep on a bench.
13:10We had a night out at Yates's and Ian called me names.
13:14I would say without a shadow of a doubt,
13:16there was certainly an impact on Kaylee's mental health.
13:20She'd become very depressed, anxious.
13:23She'd been diagnosed with OCD, like delusional thoughts,
13:27where medical-wise, she thought she was ill when she wasn't.
13:32Struggling with her mental health,
13:34Kaylee was even more susceptible to being controlled
13:37by her on-off lover.
13:39Kaylee's diary entries would expose how violent Ian would become.
13:44She wrote in one...
13:45Ian has strangled me and if I tell the police,
13:48they would not believe me.
13:49He would do these terrible things and he would just deny them.
13:52And if he was challenged upon them,
13:54by Kaylee or by anyone else,
13:56well, he would resort to casting aspersions on Kaylee's mental health.
14:00And that, I think, was the turning point for her as well,
14:03because she then went very within herself,
14:07but very withdrawn.
14:09When my sister said she was going to go to the police,
14:11go and ask for help,
14:12and he pointed his two fingers at her forehead
14:16and said, no-one would believe you anyway.
14:19You're crazy, you're mental.
14:22There was many a times where she said,
14:24just don't go back, don't...
14:26You know, but she loved him
14:28and there was nothing we could do.
14:32And then something remarkable happened
14:34which gave Kaylee renewed hope for her future,
14:37what she thought was a miracle.
14:40After being told by the medical professionals
14:43it could never happen,
14:44she fell pregnant by Ian.
14:49Kaylee was absolutely over the moon
14:52that she was pregnant,
14:54that it was a FaceTime call on the toilet
14:57and it was, is this correct?
15:00And suddenly all the terrible things he'd done,
15:02they were in the past.
15:03They were a family,
15:04they were everything she'd ever wanted.
15:07I was very, very happy for her,
15:09but I was very, very worried.
15:12What was Ian Payton's reaction to Kaylee's news?
15:16Happy.
15:17Happy, but they were only together a couple of weeks.
15:21Because then Payton did something
15:23that despite everything,
15:24Kaylee never imagined he would do.
15:26He kicked her out of the flat one night
15:29and never to be seen again in nine months.
15:34Me and my sister made him aware of every appointment,
15:37every scan,
15:39messaged him so he had proof that it was happening.
15:44Kaylee didn't let her partner's absence
15:46take away the joy she was feeling.
15:48She just focused on the future.
15:51From that moment on,
15:52she stood up and she was going to be a mum.
15:57Emma's friend Adela would come to share
15:59in some of Kaylee's happiest moments.
16:01Everything was about the baby, everything.
16:03Every sentence she had with her,
16:05it was, I'm so excited, I can't wait,
16:06it's a couple more days.
16:08She was just ecstatic.
16:10During Kaylee's pregnancy,
16:12so she could save a bit of money,
16:16and just to take a lot of strain off of her,
16:19I asked her to move in with me
16:20and give up her property
16:23in another, obviously in another town,
16:25and make it easier for her to go to her appointments,
16:28and so I asked her to move in with me.
16:30But as Kaylee's due date approached,
16:33a decidedly mixed blessing,
16:34the re-emergence of Ian Payton.
16:40He only came back into her life
16:42when Emma contacted him
16:44two weeks before the baby was born
16:46to say the baby is due in two weeks.
16:49Ian then chose to get back in contact
16:52and said, thank you very much for letting him know,
16:55and would it be okay for him
16:57to attend a hospital appointment?
17:00And suddenly, he made the decision,
17:02well, I'm back involved then,
17:03I'm now going to come and be a dad.
17:06And Kaylee accepted this with open arms.
17:08She was in such a position,
17:10she still wanted this so much
17:12that she accepted this,
17:14this sort of terrible behaviour.
17:17She accepted it.
17:21And just like that,
17:23Payton had insinuated himself once again
17:25into every aspect of Kaylee's life.
17:27Would they finally be the happy family
17:29she was hoping for?
17:30Would they finally be the happy family
17:32she was hoping they could be?
17:34No.
17:37And when she went to see her sister,
17:39her sister noticed black marks,
17:41thick black marks around her neck.
17:58After Kaylee Hanks gave birth to her baby daughter,
18:01she moved out of her sister Emma's home
18:03to a place of her own.
18:07When she had the baby,
18:08she wanted to make a go of things on her own.
18:12Just be the mum that she always wanted to be.
18:15So she chose to move out
18:16and take that step forward.
18:19Local councillor Christine Bayliss
18:21visited the flat that Kaylee now call home.
18:25It's right on the top floor
18:27of an old Victorian house.
18:30Very steep stairways.
18:32It was almost like it was up in the attic.
18:34And you found it hard to imagine
18:37how anybody would cope with a small baby
18:40in sort of that sort of situation.
18:43But Kaylee very quickly turned the cramped apartment
18:45in Bexhill Town Centre
18:47into the perfect nest for her little family.
18:50The first thing that struck me
18:51when I went into the home
18:52was how well appointed it was.
18:55She'd obviously taken great care
18:57in making her home something that was really warm
18:59and somewhere that it was great to spend time.
19:02Everything was really still very tidy.
19:05Everything was clearly well looked after.
19:07I had my little boy and she was so excited.
19:10And then, yeah, she had her little girl.
19:13They got on really well.
19:14My little boy would come over for play dates
19:16and they'd lay on the floor together
19:17and have tummy times.
19:18And just, it was lovely.
19:20Just kind of meet us three,
19:21like sitting there on the floor
19:22and it was really nice.
19:25Kaylee was amazing, Mum.
19:27She was loving,
19:28always had the baby in her thoughts.
19:31She lived for the baby.
19:33She was dedicated.
19:35She was a dedicated mum.
19:37You could tell that.
19:39You could tell by the way
19:40that she was with the child
19:43and the way she talked to the child.
19:45It was just,
19:46I was just left with a lasting impression
19:48that this was somebody
19:50that I really wanted to help.
19:53Kaylee was ready to raise her precious daughter
19:55as a single mother
19:56in their new London Road home.
19:57But he and Payton had other ideas.
20:00The day she moved in
20:02is the day that he stayed there permanently,
20:04even though he has his own flat.
20:07Ian never left Kaylee and the baby's side.
20:10And that's when me and my family thought,
20:12OK, this could be something of a new beginning.
20:16And for a while after the baby was born,
20:19he was allowed to play dad.
20:21And what's very interesting
20:22is for a very short time
20:23after the baby was born,
20:25the relationship became very good.
20:28Kaylee's loved ones were optimistic.
20:30They thought being a new father
20:32might change Ian
20:33and the way he treated the mother of his child.
20:37I wasn't surprised
20:38that Kaylee and Ian got back together.
20:41After having the baby,
20:43everything seemed perfect.
20:45And they were going to make
20:47a real go of things
20:48to be parents
20:49and to love one another
20:53and be the best that they could.
20:56In a relationship that appeared
20:57for the first time calm and stable,
20:59Kaylee was able to focus
21:00on making the best life she could for her baby.
21:02It was now she met Christine Bayliss.
21:05Kaylee contacted me in July of 2019.
21:10She had applied to go on the housing waiting list.
21:14She was single parent
21:16and she wrote to me
21:17saying that she hadn't heard anything
21:19from all the district council.
21:20She blew me away.
21:22I really loved her.
21:23She just wasn't what the stereotype
21:27you'd think of
21:28as a sort of single parent benefit scrounger.
21:31She was brilliant.
21:32She got a job.
21:33She was on maternity leave.
21:35She had real ambitions for her daughter.
21:38And I just left thinking,
21:41if I can't help somebody like Kaylee,
21:43what's the point in being a counsellor?
21:46The counsellor's visit
21:48saw her see Peyton as part of Kaylee's life.
21:51I went along to visit her.
21:53I met a guy there
21:56who she introduced me to
21:57as the father of her child.
22:00He was present all the time
22:01at that first initial meeting.
22:04After that meeting,
22:05she told me that they co-parented the daughter.
22:09He seemed fairly caring.
22:12And so he was for a month or two.
22:15But while the baby was still tiny,
22:17her father's attitude changed.
22:19There was a hint of the return of the man
22:21who'd been so possessive
22:22and violent with Kaylee.
22:27And then it went downhill
22:29ever since then.
22:32Ian would come in from work,
22:34wouldn't pay any attention to the baby,
22:36just smoke, drink coffee,
22:39and just moan if he's tired
22:42or he's got a bad belly.
22:44And then he would suddenly
22:46pick the baby up
22:49and start the role
22:51and then put her down like she was just a doll.
22:55And that's the way it was.
22:57He decided,
22:58I didn't want that,
23:00but now I do,
23:00I'm going to play Daddy.
23:02And he played Daddy for a while.
23:04But the monster came back.
23:09Ian was up to his old chicks again.
23:12Kaylee said she was feeling a bit suspicious of his actions.
23:17Again, the phone was being hidden.
23:20The phone was, like, used quite a lot of the time.
23:23So she just asked me what should she do.
23:27And I said,
23:28confront him,
23:29but don't let him tell you otherwise.
23:31If he has nothing to worry about,
23:33then you'll know.
23:37The warning signs were there,
23:40but Kaylee thought she could overcome the couple's difficulties.
23:44Kaylee really was so focused on her daughter.
23:47She wanted things to be really straightforward.
23:49She wanted Ian to be really focused on her and their daughter.
23:54She wanted a knight in shining armour.
23:57And I think she was really determined to get that
24:00and to really, for her daughter,
24:02to put in such an effort to try and bring that about.
24:06In the last month, he was getting help.
24:09He was having counselling.
24:10We thought everything was slowly working itself out.
24:13He was dealing with his demons.
24:15Kaylee was dealing with hers.
24:17They just seemed to be like a family.
24:21But appearances were deceptive.
24:23As Bexhill's hot, dry summer weather
24:25brought tourists flocking to England's south coast,
24:28Ian was becoming, again, increasingly violent.
24:31At least once he hit her.
24:34Kaylee told no one.
24:35Kaylee never reported any domestic abuse to the police.
24:40Had she ever reported those to her,
24:41naturally, she would have been listened to and taken seriously.
24:45There was a reason Kaylee did not report Ian's abuse.
24:49He would threaten her with social services.
24:52He would say, I'm going to call social services,
24:55I'm going to get them to take the baby away.
24:57And on top of the natural effects of the kind of physical and emotional abuse
25:03that he was inflicting on her,
25:05she's now living in fear that he'll call the police
25:08or he'll call social services and she'll lose her child.
25:11The one thing she's always wanted.
25:14We know it's not uncommon for there to be many instances of domestic abuse
25:19before people take the step of reporting it to the police.
25:24Kaylee Hanks was not yet ready to call the police,
25:27but she did begin to fear for her daughter's future
25:30and on July 17th, 29, she hinted at her fears.
25:35One of the most tragic things in this case
25:37is that Kaylee seems to have some inkling of what might be coming.
25:43I went over on the Wednesday to go and help Kaylee with the housework,
25:49help her out with the baby.
25:51From out of the blue, she asked me if anything ever happened to her,
25:56she would like me to have the baby.
25:58Making it clear Emma, not Ian, is to have custody of her child.
26:03Me thinking, OK, because she's been poorly,
26:06she's getting a bit paranoid.
26:08So didn't think anything of it. Agreed.
26:11He strangled her.
26:12He has made her get on her hands and knees in their presence.
26:15He has beaten her.
26:17He has smashed her head off of a dashboard.
26:20He has done so, so much to prove that he is this evil monster.
26:26The following Saturday,
26:27a family gathering at Emma's house started on a sour note.
26:32She arrived with Ian.
26:35Ian came in through the gate first with the baby,
26:39dumped the baby in front of me,
26:42and I asked him where Kaylee was,
26:44how is, like, everybody,
26:47and he turned around and said,
26:49look, she's down there.
26:51Kaylee had spotted an old friend on the street.
26:54She had gone up and said hello, and they had a chat.
26:57Nothing more than that.
27:01Iain did not like the fact that she was talking to another male.
27:07He was very annoyed.
27:08I could see by his facial expression when he came in through the gate,
27:12dropped the baby down in front of me,
27:14and then had about three roll-ups.
27:18And then afterwards,
27:20Ian had said nothing.
27:21And then Kaylee came bouncing through the gate,
27:26happy,
27:27went over to Ian,
27:29sat on his lap,
27:30give him a kiss,
27:31and everything seemed to be OK.
27:34Like, they were quite loving with one another.
27:38But Ian was biding his time until he and Kaylee were alone.
27:44At around 6.30pm,
27:47Kaylee and Ian left Emma's house.
27:49So I gave her a kiss, a cuddle.
27:52We said we loved each other.
27:54She walked out of the gate,
27:56and that was the last time we heard or see her.
28:07The last person to hear from Kaylee
28:09was a man called Ashley Boxall,
28:10the old friend she'd bumped into outside her sister's home.
28:15We know an argument started
28:17because that same man from the street
28:20was sent a text message by Kaylee.
28:22Ian accuses Kaylee of having an affair,
28:25and Kaylee makes some effort to contact the individual
28:28and get some confirmation for Ian.
28:31And the text message said,
28:32please tell Ian that we never had an affair,
28:35that we're just friends.
28:36And then she tried to call him.
28:38So the text message wasn't enough.
28:40She tried to call him.
28:41He didn't answer the phone,
28:42but he did send a text message back confirming,
28:44no, there's no affair, we're just friends.
28:50Ashley could see that Kaylee had read his response.
28:53Then she went offline.
28:55It would be hours before anyone found out.
28:58What happened next?
29:00Kaylee was found in her bedroom.
29:03She was on the floor, right by the door,
29:05and really close to the crib
29:07where her daughter would have slept.
29:19In the early hours of Sunday, July 21st, 2019,
29:22Emma Hanks awoke to a night burn.
29:26In the morning, it was half past four,
29:29I get a knock at the door,
29:31and I was a bit uneasy.
29:34Went down, obviously, opened the door
29:37to find two police officers stood there,
29:41and he asked my name,
29:43and I said, yes, that's correct.
29:45And he said, is it okay if we come in?
29:50And I said, of course.
29:52They followed me in and said,
29:56I'm sorry to have to tell you this,
29:58but we were called to a disturbance this morning,
30:00and your sister's dead.
30:05The major crime team at Sarian Sussex Police
30:08had begun to build a picture of Kaylee's final moments.
30:14Kaylee died in the very early hours of Sunday morning.
30:19But how she had been strangled.
30:23Ian Payton offered police his version of events.
30:27On the night of Kaylee's death,
30:29Ian is the one who called the police.
30:31He called the police to tell them that Kaylee had died,
30:35and he told them that Kaylee had died
30:38in the course of an attack by Kaylee upon him.
30:45He called the police to tell them that Kaylee had died.
30:46Ian's claimed that it was self-defence
30:49because Kaylee had charged at him with a knife.
30:53So he acted in self-defence and held her by the throat.
30:59But from the very moment that Ian had made that 999 call,
31:04police began to note troubling anomalies.
31:07Initially, the call after Kaylee
31:11had been killed, it came to the police
31:14rather than the ambulance as a cry for help.
31:16Small details like that that made me think,
31:18well, that's quite an unusual thing.
31:20If there's a tragic accident,
31:22something you didn't intend,
31:22you immediately try and get into the ambulance
31:26and try and get some help for Kaylee
31:27and try and get the situation back.
31:30There was shock in the local community
31:32as news spread of a violent incident
31:34in a town centre flat.
31:35The full facts were yet to be released.
31:38I heard about Kaylee's death, actually,
31:40from my son, who sent me a text saying
31:43that there'd been a murder in London Road.
31:46I was sort of fairly shocked.
31:48And I just dropped Kaylee a text message
31:51to say, hope everything's all right.
31:54She didn't respond to me.
31:55I phoned a few more times.
31:56And I walked up there,
31:58and of course, when I got to her flat,
32:00there was a policeman outside.
32:02He wouldn't tell me anything,
32:04but he did take my telephone number,
32:06and I did say to him,
32:08please tell me that the little baby is fine.
32:12He said, I can tell you that the baby is unharmed,
32:16but I can't tell you anything else.
32:18And I said, thank you.
32:19And on the way back,
32:20a police sergeant phoned me from Lewis,
32:24from the incident room,
32:25and just asked me what I knew
32:28and confirmed to me that she had been murdered.
32:33By this time, mid-morning on the Sunday,
32:35DCI Andy Wilsonholm and his team
32:37were following every possible line of inquiry.
32:40The detective story
32:41in the tragedy of Kaylee Hanks
32:43was underway.
32:44We always look at things like phones.
32:47We look at computers where we have them.
32:50But in Kaylee's case,
32:51we were looking at a really short period of time
32:54for the investigation.
32:55And what we really needed to know
32:58was about her relationship with Ian.
33:00And Kaylee's family, friends,
33:03were all able to tell us
33:04what sort of relationship that was.
33:06And we were quickly able to understand
33:08perhaps some of the difficulties
33:10that they'd been facing
33:11over the period preceding her.
33:14Murder.
33:18Friends and family painted a picture
33:20of a volatile, sometimes violent, relationship.
33:22In custody at the local police station,
33:25Ian Payton described the events
33:26of the previous evening
33:27after the couple, with their baby,
33:29left Emma Hanks' home.
33:31Going on to Kaylee's flat
33:33and ordering some food together
33:34and sharing that in the evening,
33:36Ian popped out to the shop.
33:39And then when he came back,
33:40he describes the atmosphere changing,
33:43and there being some arguments
33:44between him and Kaylee.
33:46They were clearly arguing
33:47because he thought she was having an affair.
33:48We know that from the text messages.
33:50But in fact, he said,
33:51no, no, it was about my ex-girlfriends
33:53and her jealousy.
33:54There was more argument,
33:55and Ian described Kaylee saying
33:57that their relationship had finished
33:58and that he was to sleep on the sofa.
34:02And Ian said that absolutely that suited him.
34:05He says that he went into her bedroom
34:07to get a pillow
34:08because he was going to sleep on the sofa.
34:10And when he was doing that,
34:13Kaylee attacked him with a knife.
34:14Kaylee had come at him with a carving knife.
34:17Kaylee was trying to kill him,
34:18says Ian.
34:19And he said,
34:20I had to restrain her.
34:22But in Ian's words,
34:24on the call that he made
34:25to emergency services that night,
34:27I think I restrained her too hard.
34:30Something else that jarred
34:31with investigating officers.
34:34Restraining someone by strangling them
34:37is an incredibly brutal way
34:39of restraining someone.
34:41And the force that is required
34:43to physically restrain someone
34:44to the point that they pass out
34:46and ultimately die,
34:47there's an awful lot of force.
34:50And it seems absolutely incredible
34:53that someone could consider
34:55that level of force
34:56as being appropriate against anyone,
34:59particularly their partner.
35:01There was certainly a disparity
35:04in size and height and weight
35:06between Kaylee and Ian.
35:08And so I would suggest
35:10that it would be relatively easy
35:12for Ian to restrain Kaylee
35:13in all manner of different methods.
35:18Another factor in the case building
35:20against Peyton
35:21was the time which elapsed
35:22between the incident
35:23and Ian calling emergency services.
35:25It appeared to be around 15 minutes.
35:28Kaylee was found in her bedroom
35:31and she was on the floor
35:32right by the door
35:33and really close to the crib
35:36where her daughter would have slept.
35:38So she was right beside her mum
35:41when she passed.
35:42Ian's reason for not calling
35:44for an ambulance sooner
35:46was that he really needed
35:47to settle his daughter.
35:49He could hear that she was unsettled.
35:51And he said that he was happy
35:53to leave Kaylee
35:55because he thought
35:55she was safe on the floor.
35:58When Ian returned to the bedroom
35:5910 to 15 minutes later
36:01he realised that she had still not moved
36:03that she was in fact dead.
36:05When he finally made the 999 call
36:07there was little anybody could do.
36:10The police and the ambulance crews
36:12arrived really quickly
36:14at Kaylee's flat
36:16and they really did work hard
36:18to try and save her life.
36:20And they spent quite some time doing that
36:22both the paramedics and police officers
36:24giving CPR there at the scene
36:26and trying everything absolutely possible.
36:28The problems with Ian's version
36:29of events were many.
36:31For one thing
36:31if someone's coming at you
36:32with a carving knife
36:33placing your hands around their neck
36:35is not going to protect you
36:36from the carving knife.
36:37Ian claimed that they had
36:39barrelled around the room
36:40and that they had smashed
36:42into a dressing table.
36:43The dressing table
36:45it seemed on examination
36:46was untouched.
36:48The scene in Kaylee's room
36:50was much like the rest of her flat
36:52was really well looked after.
36:53Everything was tidy.
36:54Everything was in his place
36:55and there wasn't really
36:57much to evidence
36:59that there was a struggle
37:01that had gone on in that room.
37:04Detectives found Ian Payton's account
37:05of how Kaylee had died
37:06difficult to believe
37:08especially once the autopsy
37:10had been carried out.
37:12The forensic pathologist
37:14was able to tell us
37:16that Kaylee had died
37:17from neck compression.
37:19He discovered that
37:20there was bruising
37:21on both sides
37:22of Kaylee's neck
37:23and was able to say
37:25that he believed
37:26that that was
37:27as a result of neck compression.
37:29It was quite separate
37:30to the medical intervention
37:31to try and save
37:32Kaylee's life.
37:33Also we found
37:35that there were
37:36hemorrhages in the eyes
37:38petechial hemorrhages
37:39and they are found
37:40quite frequently in cases
37:42where somebody
37:43dies by strangulation.
37:45We carried out
37:46a micro-CT scan
37:49of Kaylee's neck
37:51and one of the bones
37:53in her neck
37:53the hyoid bone
37:54was found to be fractured
37:55and again
37:56that's found
37:57to be fractured
37:58in a number of cases
37:59where strangulation
38:00is the cause.
38:02She had the post-mortem
38:03on the Monday
38:04and on the Tuesday
38:05we knew then
38:08when they charged him
38:11with murder
38:13that's when
38:14they had to come
38:15and tell us
38:17and then it just
38:18went on from there.
38:20Six months later
38:2136-year-old Ian Payton
38:23stood in the dock
38:24at Hope Crown Court
38:24and denied
38:25murdering Kaylee Hanks.
38:28Throughout the course
38:29of the trial
38:30Ian was
38:32he seemed very relaxed
38:33and unconcerned
38:35about what was happening
38:36he seemed
38:38almost quite jocular
38:39that he wasn't
38:40that he wasn't concerned
38:41about what was happening
38:43and how serious
38:45the events
38:46in the case were.
38:48I think perhaps
38:49his confidence
38:50is part of that persona
38:52part of that control
38:54that he tried to exert
38:55over Kaylee
38:56and I think by showing himself
38:57as being confident
38:59and even to a point
39:00disinterested
39:01in the trial
39:02he sort of took back
39:04some of that control
39:05for himself
39:06and was able to
39:08cause I think
39:09distress to the family.
39:11Payton continued
39:12to deny the charge
39:13against him.
39:14He insisted that Kaylee
39:15had come at him
39:16with a knife
39:17and that when he had
39:18tried to protect himself
39:19he'd accidentally
39:20strangled her.
39:21His story simply
39:22did not stack up.
39:24Ian describes
39:25being attacked by Kaylee
39:27and sustaining injuries
39:28and through our
39:29investigations
39:30and discussion
39:31with the pathologist
39:32we were able
39:33to suggest
39:35that those injuries
39:36appeared to be
39:36self-inflicted
39:37by Ian
39:38so it was our case
39:40that Ian
39:41was responsible
39:43for injuring himself
39:44with that knife.
39:47He's caught
39:48his own wounds
39:49and placed the knife
39:51beside her
39:51to make it look like
39:52they'd had
39:54it made it look like
39:56that Kaylee
39:56had had the knife.
39:58Prosecutors
39:59told the jury
39:59that Ian Payton
40:00had strangled Kaylee
40:01to death
40:01maintaining his hold
40:03on her throat
40:03for at least 15 seconds.
40:06It's an incredibly
40:07aggressive thing
40:08to do anyway
40:09grabbing someone
40:10by the throat
40:11and the neck
40:11and squeezing
40:13so that they can't breathe
40:15but of course
40:16when you do that
40:17generally when you
40:17release your hand
40:18the person starts
40:19breathing again
40:20and so in order
40:21to kill someone
40:23by strangulation
40:24you generally
40:25have to hold on
40:25for a long period
40:27after they've
40:27stopped breathing
40:28and that was
40:30the prosecution's
40:31case that
40:32actually in order
40:34to cause Kaylee's death
40:35Ian had to hold
40:36on to her neck
40:37far longer
40:38than she'd
40:39stopped breathing.
40:42The autopsy
40:43found an injury
40:44to Kaylee's lip
40:45as well as blood
40:46on the top
40:47that she'd been wearing
40:48earlier that day.
40:49There was bruising
40:50on her legs
40:50cheek
40:51and the back
40:51of her head
40:52some of it new
40:53some of it days old
40:54these were signs
40:56that there'd been
40:56another choking incident
40:57a week or so earlier.
41:00Prior to her death
41:01he's
41:03strangled her
41:03we haven't
41:04we don't know
41:05what it was over
41:06we don't know
41:07what happened.
41:09I think that goes
41:09a long way
41:10to showing
41:11that that is
41:12that is really
41:14something that
41:15he feels comfortable
41:16with
41:16and is
41:17something that
41:18he feels
41:19gives him a good
41:19degree of control
41:21and power
41:21over someone else.
41:24Despite
41:25Peyton's bravado
41:26in the dock
41:26the jury was
41:27unconvinced
41:28by his version
41:28of events.
41:30On February 7th
41:312020
41:31they returned
41:32their verdict.
41:35Ian was found
41:36guilty of
41:37Kaylee's murder
41:38he received
41:39a mandatory
41:40life sentence
41:41and he has to
41:41serve a minimum
41:42of 17 years.
41:54The verdict
41:55and the sentence
41:55are of little comfort
41:56to Kaylee's
41:57grieving family.
42:00You know
42:01no matter
42:02how long
42:03he's got
42:03he's still
42:04we're still
42:05living without
42:06Kaylee.
42:11He's still
42:12living
42:13he's still
42:13breathing
42:13you know
42:14he's still
42:15got food
42:16he's
42:16he's living
42:17a life
42:18in prison
42:19he's got
42:19a second
42:20chance
42:20coming out.
42:21My sister's
42:23never gonna
42:23have that
42:23chance.
42:27Where the
42:28family does
42:29find comfort
42:29is in
42:30raising the
42:30daughter
42:30that Kaylee
42:31left behind
42:31and in
42:32reading the
42:33diaries
42:33that she
42:34secretly
42:34kept.
42:35Real time
42:36real love
42:37real me
42:38real us.
42:40Kaylee
42:41kept
42:41diaries
42:42for the
42:42baby
42:43for when
42:43she was
42:44older
42:44just to
42:45give her
42:46the insight
42:46of what
42:47her dad
42:48was like
42:48and what
42:49Kaylee
42:49was like
42:50what
42:51Kaylee
42:51had done
42:52previously
42:54i.e.
42:55holidays
42:55and just
42:56to give
42:57a real
42:57insight
42:58of
42:58the
42:59beginning
43:00and how
43:01she felt
43:01when she
43:01was pregnant
43:02me and
43:03Kaylee
43:03skinny dipping
43:06Kaylee
43:06just
43:07given
43:09words of
43:10wisdom
43:10from her
43:11mum
43:11letting
43:12her
43:13know
43:13that
43:13her
43:14dad
43:15was
43:16about
43:17and
43:17her
43:17dad
43:18wasn't
43:18all
43:18bad
43:18in
43:19their
43:19relationship
43:20you know
43:21there was
43:21happy
43:22times
43:22but
43:23also
43:24Kaylee
43:24wrote down
43:26the things
43:26that he
43:27used to
43:27do to
43:27her
43:28say to
43:29her
43:29so just
43:30in case
43:31like
43:32everything
43:33about
43:33Kaylee's
43:34life
43:34was in
43:34a book
43:35at a
43:36bowling
43:36night
43:37with
43:37your
43:37father
43:38was
43:38okay
43:39not
43:39great
43:39due
43:39to
43:39your
43:40dad
43:40strangling
43:40my
43:41friend
43:41after
43:41so
43:42the
43:42baby
43:43could
43:44read
43:44and
43:44understand
43:46what
43:46Kaylee
43:47was
43:47about
43:47in
43:48the
43:48meantime
43:49Emma
43:49Hanks
43:50wants
43:50to
43:50use
43:50Kaylee
43:51story
43:51to
43:51stop
43:52another
43:52innocent
43:52person
43:53losing
43:53their
43:53life
43:53at
43:54the
43:54hands
43:55of
43:55their
43:55lover
43:56I
43:56just
43:57urge
43:57anyone
43:57that's
43:58going
43:58through
43:58it
43:58or
43:58they
43:59think
43:59they're
43:59going
43:59through
43:59it
44:00just
44:00to
44:00go
44:00and
44:01get
44:01some
44:01help
44:01go and
44:02talk
44:02to
44:02someone
44:03it
44:03doesn't
44:03matter
44:03how
44:03stupid
44:04it
44:04sounds
44:04just
44:05have
44:06someone
44:07support
44:09you
44:09never
44:09know
44:10you
44:10might
44:10think
44:10it's
44:11stupid
44:11and
44:11they
44:11might
44:12have
44:12made
44:12you
44:12believe
44:13that
44:13it's
44:13stupid
44:14but
44:14just
44:15go
44:15and
44:15seek
44:15some
44:15advice
44:16tips
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