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00:01From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news.
00:08This is The Daily Show with your host, Michael Kosta.
00:22Oh yeah, we got a big one tonight, baby.
00:26Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Michael Kosta.
00:28We've got so much to talk about tonight.
00:30Trump won't pull out of Iran, but he says he's so close.
00:33Influencers find a more embarrassing career, and Kash Patel's career might be just like his drinks on the rocks.
00:39Oh, and also later, tennis legend Maria Sharapova will be here.
00:44Oh my God, I love her.
00:46Holy shit.
00:47Hey, let's get into the headlines.
00:55First of all, happy Earth Day, everyone.
00:58Make some noise for Earth, you know?
01:00I love Earth.
01:02I love Earth.
01:04Did you remember to get her a gift?
01:06I got her some sexy lingerie, and it was more of a gift for me.
01:12Let's get started, because as of late, the glaciers are not the only thing that's been melting down.
01:17Kash Patel, FBI director and the man voted worst kisser by Breathalyzer magazine, is having a bad week.
01:24He sued the Atlantic over a story alleging that he drinks too much, misses work, and that he's what's known
01:31inside the domestic intelligence community as a total chode.
01:35And yesterday, Kash went before the press to make it very clear that he will dodge any question that comes
01:41his way.
01:42Can you say definitively that you have not been intoxicated or absent during your tenure as FBI director?
01:49I can say unequivocally that I never listened to the fake news mafia.
01:54Yeah!
01:56Yeah!
01:57Damn, that's a real master class on talking shit like a middle schooler who's terrible at talking shit.
02:02Oh, oh, you f***ed my mom?
02:05Well, I sucked your dad's b***h, dumbass.
02:10Yeah, clap for that.
02:11Clap for that.
02:14Also, the fake news mafia?
02:16I appreciate that you tried to make us sound cool, but if the news were the mafia, it would be
02:21a lot more vague.
02:22Tonight at 6, let me tell you about the guy who's going down the place to do the thing, okay?
02:27Capisce?
02:32Come on, Kash Money.
02:34You got to give me a better defense than that.
02:36Try again.
02:36This FBI director has been on the job twice as many days as every director before me.
02:42What that means is I've taken half as many days off as those before me.
02:47What that means is I've taken a third less vacation than those before me.
02:58Let me just check the math real quick.
03:00So we got twice as many days plus half as many over a third less.
03:06Yeah, I think he's wasted.
03:10But it's like...
03:17It just says boobs?
03:21But it's like my grandpa used to say, if you love your job and you're shitfaced at it, you'll never
03:27work a day in your life.
03:29But let's move on to the big update on the war with Iran.
03:33Specifically, the update is that I have no idea what the is going on with the war in Iran.
03:39Nobody has had any idea since day one.
03:42Trump just started this war on us like a dog bringing us a dead bird.
03:46We don't even want this.
03:48Now, we have to clean this up?
03:50And it doesn't help that everything he says about this war is immediately canceled out by the next thing he
03:55says about this war.
03:56It was only going to be four weeks.
03:58Then six weeks.
03:59Then eight to ten weeks.
04:00He wanted an unconditional surrender.
04:02Then he wanted a nuclear deal.
04:04Then he wanted to open the strait.
04:05Hey, please, Mr. President, can you stop bullshitting us and just find an end to this war?
04:10President Trump just told the New York Post that Vice President J.D. Vance and his delegation are in the
04:15air on the way to Pakistan for talks with the Iranians.
04:19Thank you.
04:20Yes.
04:20We must be nearing peace.
04:22I mean, Trump makes up a lot of bullshit, but if he says the Vice President is in the air,
04:26that definitely happened.
04:28But that didn't happen.
04:30Vice President J.D. Vance, who was preparing to fly to Islamabad, never laughed.
04:34Wait, wait.
04:37So he just made up a flight?
04:40Look, I know everyone who knows J.D. Vance is always wishing that he was on his way to another
04:45continent, but this is not the time to manifest it into being.
04:49The ceasefire expires today, unless you're going to extend it.
04:53The president said it was highly unlikely he would extend the ceasefire.
04:57I expect to be bombing.
04:59Shit.
05:00Okay.
05:01So J.D. Vance is not on a flight and Trump is not extending the ceasefire.
05:06Okay.
05:06I got it.
05:07Late this afternoon, President Trump announced he was extending the ceasefire indefinitely.
05:13Indefinitely?
05:13Oh, God.
05:14So, uh, hold on.
05:17Uh...
05:17No ceasefire to ceasefire.
05:20J.D. Vance to no J.D. Vance.
05:22Oh, it doesn't...
05:22It just says boobs again.
05:24Jesus Christ.
05:27You know what?
05:31Nice boobs.
05:33But you know what?
05:34At least a ceasefire is better than no ceasefire.
05:36It means that nobody's getting attacked or shot at.
05:39So, phew.
05:40Actually, this is a good thing.
05:41Hours after President Trump's ceasefire extension, Iran attacking vessels in the Strait of Hormuz,
05:48more ships fired upon and seized by Iranian forces.
05:53Iran unmistakably sending a message to President Trump.
05:57Jesus!
05:59That's the shortest indefinite ceasefire I've ever seen.
06:03President Trump, Iran's navy is shooting at ships.
06:06Iran's navy is gone.
06:08Shut the f*** up!
06:11Just shut up!
06:12God, just shut up!
06:14Jesus!
06:15Nothing you say means anything!
06:19In fact, you know what?
06:20Hold on.
06:21I know how to deal with this.
06:23Never in the history of warfare has an enemy suffered.
06:27Oh.
06:30Oh, my God.
06:35That...
06:36That is so much better.
06:39Everyone, just-just enjoy this for a second, this blissful, bullshit-free silence.
06:46Oh, my God.
06:48I wish we could just tune him out in real life, but we can't.
06:51Because even though nothing he says matters, unfortunately, his actions do matter.
06:56So we have to pay attention.
06:57And right now, his actions, well, they're f***ing everything up.
07:00AAA reports the price of a gallon of regular spiked 40% since the day before the war began.
07:06Last week, the International Energy Agency warned that Europe has only about six weeks of jet fuel supply left.
07:12That supply shock tied to the Strait of Hormuz is hitting fertilizer markets as well.
07:18Fertilizers going up.
07:19Do you understand how bad it is when the price of shit is rising?
07:25I wish I knew about this this morning when I flushed a whole retirement account down the toilet.
07:37Now, maybe you don't fly or drive or eat, but sooner or later, the effects of this war are going
07:44to get you.
07:45Possibly in ways you never saw coming.
07:48The war with Iran is having a huge impact on the global condom supply.
07:52Condoms are made from petrochemicals, and the supply chain bottleneck in the Strait of Hormuz
07:56is forcing the world's top condom producer to raise prices by 20 to 30%.
08:02Well, well, well.
08:05Looks like that Trojan I've had in my wallet since 2002 is finally going to get some action
08:12when I sell it on eBay.
08:15But a 30% spike in condom prices, this is a big deal.
08:19I mean, Jerome Powell of the Federal Reserve Bank is already suggesting that people, quote,
08:22do more hand stuff.
08:27And remember, every day that the Strait of Hormuz remains closed,
08:29the global energy crisis only gets worse, which is why today, Earth Day,
08:35I just want to give a big shout-out to President Trump.
08:38Truly.
08:38Because thanks to your war, the benefits of switching to renewable energy have never been clearer.
08:44Now, we can all see the risks of anchoring the entire global economy to one narrow waterway
08:50in the Middle East that stays open or closed based on the impulses of a deranged ruler.
08:55No, not that one.
08:56There you go.
08:57Yeah.
09:04Do you want to know what the world would be like right now if we weren't held hostage by fossil
09:08fuels?
09:09Here's a little taste.
09:10Hey, did you hear the Strait of Hormuz was closed?
09:12The Strait of Hormuz?
09:13Isn't that the waterway that has no effect on my life?
09:16Yep, that's the one.
09:17See you later.
09:19So, President Trump, thank you.
09:21Your thoughtless war is already spurring countries around the world to invest more in wind, solar,
09:26and all the other forms of energy that you would probably refer to as gay.
09:30Now, I don't think that was your plan when you started this war,
09:34because I'm pretty sure you didn't have a plan at all.
09:36But still, you have, by pure chance, helped the Earth.
09:40At this point, you're basically Captain Planet.
09:44Except, if there are any records of you spending time with younger women,
09:47they've probably been redacted by the DOJ.
09:50And look, we know by now that praise means nothing to you unless it's accompanied by a trophy.
09:55So, allow me to present to you, Donald Trump, with the first ever Earth Day Award
10:02for being a reckless idiot who accidentally did something good.
10:10Congratulations, sir.
10:12All right, when we come back, we're going to get an update on the midterms.
10:14Don't go away.
10:38Welcome back to Daily Show.
10:39The midterm elections are just a few months away.
10:42So, to analyze all the campaign stories, we turn to Ronnie Chang,
10:45who is in our indecision, AnalaZone.
10:54I'm Ronnie Chang, and this is the AnalaZone,
10:57where we go deep into our midterm coverage.
11:03Sorry, that title is really undermining the tone of this whole thing.
11:07Can we change that graphic?
11:09Like, maybe lose the hyphens?
11:11Okay, no, no, no, that's worse.
11:13Put it back, put it back, put it back.
11:14Okay.
11:16Anyway, by now, America has gotten used to rich, unqualified people from TV and social media
11:23running the country.
11:24And with the midterms approaching, it's inspired a whole new crop of shitheads to throw their
11:28shithats in the ring.
11:30Mark Teixeira, a Christian, a family man, and MLB all-star.
11:34I'm Luke Obronson, hockey coach, businessman, and actor.
11:39Yeah, I've been on reality TV, but that's drama for show.
11:43What's happening in D.C. is real drama.
11:46Tejano music star Bobby Pulido is officially launching his bid for Congress.
11:50Two live crew.
11:52Rap legend Uncle Luke said he's running for Florida's 20th Congress.
11:56This is the man that gave us the classic, me so horny.
12:03Finally, a member of two live crew in Congress.
12:08I'll admit, I was skeptical until I saw his campaign slogan,
12:12me so horny to take on the establishment.
12:16But...
12:20I...
12:22Sure, why not?
12:23But if Luke Campbell does not make you so horny,
12:26there's plenty of other D-list celebrities and influencer freaks to choose from.
12:30Like NFL sideline reporter Michelle Tafoya.
12:33I covered the biggest football games in America.
12:37I walked the sidelines when the pressure was mounting
12:40and the stakes were the highest.
12:42Starting today, I'm running for the United States Senate.
12:49I'm not sure that's a winning message.
12:52When the pressure was on and the stakes were high,
12:55I was watching from the sidelines
12:59a very safe distance away.
13:03But if there's one thing a sideline reporter brings to the table,
13:07it's knowing her stats.
13:09Almost 30% of Californians are homeless on any given night.
13:1330%!
13:15That is the largest margin by far.
13:1830%?
13:19I think it's 28.
13:21So close to 30% of their population is homeless on any given night.
13:2530% is 12 million Californians.
13:32Look, not every strung-out looking person you see in L.A. is homeless, okay?
13:39That's just the cast of Euphoria.
13:42The actual statistic is less than 1% of Californians.
13:46So to put this in terms Michelle can understand,
13:49here's the snap, the kick is up,
13:51and it is wide by 11.8 million people.
13:57But in fairness...
14:03But in fairness, California has its issues,
14:06particularly in Los Angeles,
14:08where none of my pilots have been picked up
14:09and wildfires wiped out entire neighborhoods.
14:13The city also has a huge deficit,
14:14and according to Michelle Tafoya,
14:1620 billion people are homeless.
14:20This city needs someone serious
14:22who can solve serious problems.
14:25It is official.
14:26Former reality TV star Spencer Pratt
14:29filed to run for mayor of Los Angeles.
14:32Or Spencer Pratt.
14:35Finally, a candidate who makes white women over 40 go,
14:40oh, yeah, that guy.
14:42Ew.
14:43In case you don't remember Spencer
14:45from the golden age of basic cable reality TV,
14:48here's a quick refresher
14:49of his consensus-building approach.
14:51At the end of the day, I can't change.
14:53I can't make you un-my sister.
14:54You can't call the brother-sister line
14:56and say, hey, I don't want Seventy
14:57to be my sister anymore.
14:59I can't do that.
15:00The phone doesn't work.
15:01You're making me cry right now.
15:03Seventy, you're making yourself cry
15:04thinking about what you did.
15:07What are you crying about, Seventy?
15:09What the f*** are you crying about?
15:11That's why you're not in my life, you crazy b***h.
15:14Because you come to barbecues
15:15and just start crying.
15:18Wow.
15:19It's amazing how 20 years ago
15:21this was considered TV villain behavior.
15:23But now this guy sounds like
15:25he should be director of the FBI.
15:27But still, I'm sure...
15:33Yay, FBI.
15:35I'm sure Spencer Pratt
15:37has grown up a lot since then.
15:38I mean, he's got a degree,
15:40he's had kids,
15:41he's become an activist
15:42after the L.A. fires.
15:43I mean, I'm sure his family
15:44is proud of him.
15:46Actress Stephanie Pratt
15:47slams her brother Spencer Pratt
15:49over his run for Los Angeles mayor.
15:51Stephanie took to X Saturday
15:53writing that a vote for Spencer
15:55is a vote for stupidity.
16:00You know, you make someone cry
16:01at your barbecue one time
16:03and just throw your whole campaign
16:06under the bus.
16:08But if you want your candidate
16:10less surfer dude
16:11and more alpha male,
16:12then I've got a race
16:13down in Florida for you.
16:15Dan Bilzerian
16:16has filed paperwork
16:17to challenge incumbent Republican
16:19Randy Fine
16:20for Florida's 6th congressional district
16:23in the 2026 election.
16:24Yes, Dan Bilzerian,
16:27the shirtless trust fund
16:28Manosphere influencer
16:29who posts pictures like this
16:31and videos like this.
16:34Oh, hell yeah.
16:35Check out that.
16:37He's crushing a car with a tank.
16:39I never would have thought
16:41of doing that.
16:41All right.
16:42This is sick.
16:43This is sick.
16:44I bet this campaign
16:45is going to be fun as hell.
16:47I'm just going to come out
16:48and say it.
16:48Like, I think that Jews
16:50are causing a disproportionate
16:51amount of problems
16:52in the United States.
16:53Ah, damn it.
16:56Why are you showing me
16:57Nazism when I was expecting
16:59only sexism?
17:03But don't worry.
17:04He's being forced to answer
17:05for his anti-Semitism
17:06by America's last remaining
17:08journalistic institution,
17:11TMZ.
17:12Are you anti-Semitic?
17:14No, I'm not anti-Semitic.
17:15I think that, you know,
17:16that's kind of a made-up term.
17:18You called your opponent
17:19this fat Jew.
17:22So he's not from Israel,
17:24but you called a guy in Florida
17:26this fat Jew.
17:28How is that not anti-Semitic?
17:30Well, he's a Jewish supremacist.
17:32He literally talks about
17:32how Muslims are lower than dogs.
17:34So is that Islamophobic?
17:37Yes.
17:38Yes.
17:38Yes, it is.
17:46I've heard enough.
17:49Give TMZ the Pulitzer.
17:53Thank you.
17:55Yeah, thank you, TMZ,
17:57for having the guts
17:58to stand up to an anti-Semite
18:00who gets his hair cut
18:01at a dog groomer.
18:02Look.
18:04I understand we're gonna have
18:05to tolerate idiots
18:06running for office,
18:07but can they at least
18:08be fun idiots?
18:10Like this one.
18:11Reality star Farrah Abraham,
18:13teen mom star,
18:14announced that she was running
18:15for mayor in Austin, Texas.
18:17But the problem is
18:18that race is not until 2028,
18:20and it's a fact she seemed to learn
18:22in real time on live television.
18:24The election's not until 2028.
18:27Why so early?
18:29Oh, for some reason,
18:31the mayor election is 2026.
18:34I don't know.
18:35That's just what the office told me.
18:36So it is 2028.
18:38So I think you may have
18:39jumped the gun here.
18:40I love that I jumped the gun.
18:48You expect me to believe
18:50a teen mom made a mistake?
18:52Okay.
18:54So what?
18:55She filed to run for office
18:57two years early.
18:58That just shows you
19:00how badly she wants
19:01to be the mayor.
19:02It was the office
19:03she was born to run for.
19:05Abraham,
19:06she's now running
19:07for city council instead.
19:08That election
19:09is this year.
19:11Okay, you know what?
19:12At least she's willing
19:12to admit when she's wrong
19:13and adapt.
19:14I'm excited to vote for her.
19:16I don't know when.
19:17I don't know where.
19:20I don't know for what.
19:23But I do know
19:23she has my vote.
19:25And that's all for tonight.
19:27I'll see you next time
19:27in the Analyzone.
19:32Thank you, Rodney.
19:33We've come back.
19:34Maria Scherfell will join me
19:35on the show.
19:35Don't go away.
19:36Rodney Jones!
19:48Welcome back to The Daily Show.
19:50My guest tonight
19:50is a five-time
19:52Grand Slam tennis champion,
19:54investor,
19:54best-selling author,
19:55and host of the new
19:56Vox Media podcast
19:58Pretty Tough.
19:58Please welcome
19:59Maria Sharapova.
20:03Thank you.
20:23Five-time Grand Slam champion
20:25between us.
20:26What a crowd.
20:26I know.
20:27Is that a great crowd?
20:27I love a fantastic crowd.
20:28It's been a minute
20:29since I've seen a crowd
20:30like this.
20:31They're hot.
20:34They knew that between us
20:37we would have five
20:37Grand Slam championships.
20:39Good joke.
20:40So...
20:41You got jokes.
20:42I got jokes.
20:42I got jokes.
20:43Those are my Grand Slam
20:44match wins.
20:45Grand Slam champion,
20:47former world number one,
20:48Olympic medalist,
20:50best-selling author,
20:53podcast?
20:54I know, right?
20:55That was the one thing
20:55missing from your resume?
20:56Apparently that's the evolution.
20:58Pretty tough.
20:59Like, I don't think of you
21:00as pretty tough.
21:00I watched you compete
21:02for so many years
21:02and it was 100% tough.
21:04It was all-out tough.
21:05Oh.
21:05Tell me a little bit
21:06about this pretty tough.
21:06I think I have an idea
21:07of what it's about, but...
21:09Pretty tough was very much
21:10my mentality from my youth.
21:12Like, I pumped my fists
21:13from the very beginning
21:14and I did not apologize for it.
21:16I got slack for it, right?
21:18It's like the only thing
21:19I was known for.
21:20But, yeah, but since I retired,
21:21it's been a few years
21:22and I had a kid
21:23and I'm like,
21:24all of those lessons
21:25still apply
21:25and you still have to,
21:27you know, fight
21:27for what you believe
21:28and work hard
21:29and be determined
21:30and all the elements
21:31of being pretty tough.
21:33Where does...
21:36Yeah.
21:40You know, from the age of five,
21:42you were training
21:43to be a world champion.
21:45The competitiveness
21:46in your eyes
21:47and your body
21:49are so evident
21:50from watching you.
21:51Where is that
21:52competitive energy now?
21:53Because you don't have
21:54the outlet of the tennis court.
21:55It's so funny
21:56when you say that
21:56because I have a three-and-a-half-year-old.
21:58He's almost four
21:58and I'm like,
21:59there is no competitive energy
22:01anywhere in my child.
22:03Right, right.
22:04Like, there's energy?
22:05Right.
22:05It's not competitive.
22:06Right, right.
22:07So, I look back
22:08to those days
22:09and, look,
22:10we moved to this country.
22:11I was just six years old
22:12and we had a vision,
22:14a dream
22:14and I loved what I did.
22:15I loved being an athlete.
22:17I loved being a competitor.
22:18Such a huge identity of mine.
22:20But, you know,
22:21as a female athlete,
22:22you know the time will come
22:24much sooner
22:24than if you were a CEO
22:26or an entrepreneur
22:27and so I started kind of
22:29building those small steps
22:30toward my future
22:31and in business
22:32and entrepreneurship
22:33and now
22:34I'm in the podcast space.
22:36What do you want
22:37to achieve with the pod?
22:38Because it's...
22:39You host it.
22:41You have female guests on.
22:43Yes.
22:43I mean, ambitious,
22:44successful.
22:45Your first guest
22:45was Zoe Zaldana.
22:47Yes.
22:47Today, today.
22:48Today.
22:48Today.
22:49It's amazing.
22:49I listen to it.
22:51It's fun to hear
22:52two legends
22:53talking about
22:53such different fields
22:54and their lives.
22:56Yeah.
22:56What are you trying
22:56to achieve with it?
22:57Well, it's the juxtaposition
22:58of being that gritty
23:00leading a team
23:01but also being elegant
23:03and being vulnerable
23:04and being soft
23:04and being motherly
23:05and those two
23:06can coexist
23:07at the same time.
23:08I often had to
23:10choose one or the other
23:11by the press
23:12and by the media
23:13and by occasionally
23:14friends and family
23:15but especially now
23:17with being a mother
23:18and like having friends
23:19that have children
23:20we also face similar...
23:21You know,
23:22I felt like they could
23:22really relate
23:23to the concept
23:23and the subject
23:24and it felt like
23:25a very natural evolution.
23:27Not to mention
23:27every podcast
23:29is a guy.
23:30Oh, I like that.
23:30You can swear here.
23:31We do this shit.
23:33Yeah.
23:35Okay.
23:36When I swear here
23:38nobody in a chair
23:39goes code violation
23:40Mr. Costa.
23:42That's fantastic.
23:43One of my first meetings
23:44with Vox Media
23:44I was like
23:45I'm only doing the podcast
23:46if I can swear.
23:47Okay, great.
23:47Like I cannot get through
23:49an hour interview
23:49without saying
23:50Did you...
23:52Did you get code violations
23:53as a player?
23:54I don't remember
23:54a lot of that.
23:55You know,
23:55I was pretty put together.
23:57Yeah.
23:57Yeah, it's all gone
23:58downhill since.
23:59So, that's okay.
24:01Yeah, I kept it together
24:02pretty good.
24:03Um, so much of...
24:04On the outside.
24:05On the outside.
24:05On the inside.
24:06I was like...
24:06Um, so much of podcasting
24:09is male driven.
24:10Yes.
24:10I mean, it's the manosphere
24:12and hosted by a man.
24:13The manosphere.
24:13I've been hearing that a lot.
24:14You've been hearing that.
24:15Yeah.
24:15Is your...
24:16You know,
24:16you're a competitive person.
24:17Is your intention
24:18to take on the manosphere
24:19or is it just to showcase
24:20more female driven properties?
24:22Oh, I think a lot of men
24:23have great content.
24:24I listen to it a lot.
24:26Thank you.
24:26And there are a few...
24:29I love how you just
24:30gave yourself a compliment.
24:32Um, but equally,
24:33there's so much room
24:34for growth for females
24:35to host podcasts.
24:36I mean, Kara Swisher,
24:37Mel Robbins,
24:38those were all my inspirations
24:39leading into this.
24:40So, I feel like there's
24:41room in the sandbox.
24:42Yeah, there is.
24:44Um, in my...
24:45In, you know,
24:46in researching you
24:47and getting a chance
24:48to talk with you,
24:48I don't get to talk
24:49with a lot of Grand Slam champions.
24:50It's awesome you're here.
24:51Thank you for taking the time
24:51to talk with me.
24:52But, you know,
24:54I had forgotten
24:55that you had played
24:55five Grand Slam finals
24:56you did not win.
24:57And I'm just, you know...
24:58Oh, thank you for reminding me.
24:59Well, I'm not trying to...
25:00Yeah.
25:00But it is just so impossible
25:02to even make a finals period.
25:04Right.
25:04And you always talk about...
25:06It's so disappointing
25:06when you lose in the final.
25:08I know.
25:08It's actually tougher
25:09to lose in the final
25:10than it is to lose in the semis.
25:11Why?
25:12Because you get to watch
25:13the other player
25:14receive the winner's trophy.
25:15Right.
25:15I don't know what other sport
25:16you really do that
25:17where you're standing
25:18right next to them
25:19and they're like,
25:19and the champion is.
25:21It is truly remarkable
25:24that in tennis
25:25you battle, battle, battle
25:27and you have to stand there
25:28and go,
25:28it's such a pleasure
25:29to play you.
25:30Oh, I know.
25:31I wanted to just...
25:33I don't want to...
25:33You know, you talk so much
25:35about learning from losses
25:36or failing forward.
25:37Yes.
25:37And I have a list here
25:38of the Grand Slams
25:39you did not win.
25:40And I'm sorry
25:40that I have to bring this up.
25:41But I'm wondering...
25:42Why did I come here?
25:43Well, no, because...
25:45Okay, start.
25:46Just start.
25:47Okay, 2007,
25:47Australian Open final.
25:49You lose to Serena Williams.
25:50Yes.
25:51What do you remember
25:52about that match?
25:52What did you take
25:53from that match?
25:54Nothing.
25:55Really?
25:58Well, let me preface
25:59by saying this.
26:00You beat Serena
26:01for your first Grand Slam
26:03when you were 17 years old
26:04at Wimbledon.
26:05She's the defending champion.
26:06She's world number one.
26:08You come on the stage
26:09and you beat Serena Williams.
26:10Yeah.
26:11From what I know
26:12about Serena,
26:13she was waiting
26:13to take some revenge.
26:15Well, that's a sign
26:16of a champion.
26:17A sign of a champion.
26:18Right.
26:18Okay, so that one
26:18you didn't learn anything from.
26:20What about 2011 Wimbledon final?
26:22You lost to Petra Kvitova.
26:24Oh, it's just...
26:24It's hard losing at Wimbledon,
26:26whether it's first round
26:26or the finals.
26:27But, no, the reason I say
26:29you learn so much from losing
26:30is because I think
26:30that's when you do
26:31your best work.
26:32Like, that is when
26:33you get back
26:34to the drawing board,
26:35you huddle with your team,
26:36you think of...
26:37You analyze, right?
26:39You think of a new plan.
26:41When you're winning,
26:41you're confident
26:42and things just flow.
26:43They just go according to plan
26:45and you don't think about,
26:46oh, well, what can I do better?
26:48Yeah.
26:48So I think you're growing
26:49when you're actually
26:50not at your best.
26:50I love that.
26:52Can you relate?
26:53I can relate.
27:03I have kids and a wife.
27:04I'm fully aware
27:05of when I'm failing.
27:08That's hard.
27:09What about the 2007 year-end
27:11in Madrid with Justine Hennin?
27:12What was that match all about?
27:13Tell me why.
27:14It was a heartbreaker
27:15because I had so many...
27:16This is against Justine Hennin,
27:18who was the fiercest
27:19competitor against me.
27:20Like, her game,
27:21her on a good day
27:22and me on a good day
27:23is just...
27:23It was a better day for her.
27:26Three hours long,
27:27three plus,
27:28and I end up losing.
27:29It was back and forth,
27:30back and forth.
27:30And this is like
27:31season-end championships,
27:32not a major,
27:33but a big deal.
27:34Yeah, right.
27:34Like, you want to end
27:34the year on a good note.
27:35And it's sometimes tougher
27:37to lose a third set
27:38than it is to, like,
27:39just lose in straight sets.
27:40And I come off the court
27:41and they're just celebrating
27:42with the team
27:43and they have champagne
27:44and it's just...
27:45And my dad was my coach
27:46at the time
27:46and he looks at me
27:47and he's like,
27:48we're going to get our revenge.
27:49And I went into the off-season.
27:50I didn't take a vacation,
27:51which I had planned.
27:52My friends were all disappointed
27:53and I said,
27:54I'm going back
27:55to the drawing board,
27:55back to the drawing board.
27:56And I worked hard.
27:58I came into the Australian Open
27:59just two months later.
28:00I draw her in the quarterfinal.
28:02I'm like,
28:02terrible draw.
28:03And I beat her in two sets.
28:05And I always think of that match
28:07because I got...
28:08I became a better player
28:10because of it.
28:10I love that.
28:11That's amazing.
28:13Thank you.
28:19We're seeing a trend
28:21with athletes prioritizing
28:23their mental health.
28:23Yes.
28:24I mean, the WTA travels
28:25with a therapist now.
28:27I don't think that was available
28:29to you in your time.
28:30I feel like...
28:32What's your take
28:32on athletes prioritizing
28:34their mental health?
28:35In some ways,
28:36that might be seen
28:36as a weakness
28:37when you were playing.
28:39Oh, no.
28:40No, it's not.
28:40I think accepting the fact
28:42that you can...
28:43Well, first of all,
28:44it's a very expensive sport.
28:46So you have to get to a position
28:47where you can afford a team
28:48with a coach
28:49and a fitness trainer
28:50and a physio
28:51and all that
28:51and perhaps a mental coach.
28:54I usually had a small team
28:55because I just felt less pressure.
28:57I didn't have to report
28:58to that many people.
29:00Right.
29:00But the teams are growing.
29:01Now, like,
29:02the boxes of 10 people,
29:03that's not enough anymore.
29:04You have a full...
29:05You have a full entourage.
29:06It's overflowing.
29:08I don't think it's a weakness.
29:09I think acknowledging
29:10that you want to grow,
29:12like, if it's mentally,
29:14if it's physically,
29:15you always want to improve.
29:16Were you focused
29:17on your mental toughness,
29:19on working on that,
29:20or was that something
29:20that was innate
29:21and you had worked
29:22on forehands,
29:23backhands, and staff?
29:23I would...
29:24Yeah, I would sometimes
29:24get off the court
29:25and say,
29:26I was a little soft today.
29:27Like, I...
29:28I wanted my opponent
29:29to make a mistake.
29:30I didn't go for the winner.
29:31Yeah.
29:32I'd say that.
29:32Yeah.
29:33Because I wanted to, like...
29:34If I lost,
29:35I wanted to lose
29:36in my own terms.
29:37Love that.
29:37Well, you did.
29:38You played like that,
29:39and you're so much fun to watch.
29:41I'm going to flip the script here.
29:42At the end of your podcast,
29:44you ask your guests
29:44pretty tough questions.
29:46Yeah.
29:46Well, I'm going to ask you
29:47your pretty tough questions
29:48because you interview women
29:51of high achieving
29:52and high status.
29:53Well, you should be
29:53interviewing you.
29:54Are you ready
29:54for pretty tough questions
29:55that you created?
29:56Oh, my goodness.
30:00Maria Sharapova.
30:01Wow.
30:02Most common misconception
30:03about you?
30:04Oh, that I'm a cold bitch.
30:09Hi.
30:10What do we think?
30:11What do we think?
30:11That's great.
30:13What's your relationship
30:14to perfection?
30:16Oh, it...
30:17It's...
30:17You want to be perfect.
30:19Believe me,
30:20I strive for perfection
30:21on the court,
30:21but I realize
30:22that it's impossible.
30:23First of all,
30:23you lose a lot more
30:24than you win,
30:25and that's just a fact,
30:26and you just got to go with it.
30:28Well, you won, like,
30:2981% of your matches,
30:30so you didn't lose more.
30:31Did I?
30:31Someone like me
30:32lost more than I won,
30:34for sure.
30:34Thank you for knowing that stat.
30:35Yeah, well...
30:36Yeah.
30:36My posture is a lot better
30:38after hearing that.
30:39This was not
30:40your pretty tough question.
30:41This is mine.
30:42Let's be real.
30:42How bullshit is...
30:43A curveball, yes.
30:44Okay.
30:45Let's be real.
30:45How bullshit is pickleball?
30:54I...
30:56I like where you're headed.
30:57Yeah.
30:58Yeah.
30:58Have you played?
30:59I like it a lot.
30:59Oh, yeah.
31:00Yeah, okay.
31:00Yeah, on national television.
31:01Oh, okay.
31:02It didn't go well.
31:03Didn't go well?
31:03No.
31:04No, I played with Johnny Mac.
31:05Okay.
31:06And he...
31:07Well, it ended,
31:07he didn't even say goodbye to me.
31:09Oh, yeah.
31:09Well, that's on brand for him.
31:10Yeah, we lost, clearly.
31:12Yeah.
31:12We played doubles,
31:13and he was on my team.
31:15Okay.
31:15I haven't played since.
31:18I always tell people
31:19I had a good relationship
31:20with my parents,
31:20so I don't have to play pickleball.
31:23Maria,
31:24I don't get to talk
31:25to a Grand Slam champion
31:27very often.
31:27Tennis to tennis.
31:29Yes.
31:29People who are watching
31:30who play the sport
31:30at all different levels.
31:32What's one piece of advice
31:33you could give a tennis player
31:34on a way to improve their game?
31:36Anything at all?
31:37Their game.
31:37Or just their...
31:38Yes, their approach,
31:39their game, their...
31:40Anything.
31:41Don't miss.
31:42Don't miss.
31:43I love that.
31:45Do not miss.
31:46We make it too complicated sometimes.
31:48Yeah, you overthink it.
31:49Just let it go.
31:50Just don't miss.
31:50Let it go.
31:51Trust your instinct.
31:52Just do it.
31:53Thank you for being here
31:54and talking with us.
31:55New episodes of the podcast
31:56pretty tough
31:57and Marie Sharapova.
31:58We'll come out each Wednesday.
31:59Marie Sharapova.
32:00To a quick break,
32:01we'll be right back after this.
32:02Thank you.
32:03Thank you very much, Maria.
32:04Thank you so much.
32:05And thank you.
32:08That's our show for tonight.
32:10Now here it is,
32:10your Moment of Zen.
32:11No one knows
32:12who's calling the shots.
32:14Vance, Witkoff,
32:15and Kushner
32:15were supposed to leave
32:16for Islamabad,
32:17but they never took off
32:19because the Iranian delegation
32:21never took off,
32:23which is suspicious
32:24because this morning,
32:25Trump said the gay Ayatollah
32:27authorized the deal.
32:29Sorry.
32:30Sorry.
32:30You're welcome.
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