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00:30Panganiban Perez
00:41Ito ang silyadong kahong dala ng Bureau of Internal Revenue o BIR
00:46sa impeachment hearing sa kamarang naglalaman daw ito ng tax records
00:50ni na Vice President Sara Duterte at asawa niyang si Atty. Manasas Carpio.
00:55Pero hindi ito iprinisinta ni BIR Commissioner
00:59Atty. Chirito Mendoza.
01:01The tax code prohibits the disclosure of specific tax information pertaining to specific taxpayers.
01:11However, the law provides for some exceptions
01:15which provides that we may disclose specific tax information to Congress
01:21provided that the examination shall be done in executive session.
01:26Matapos malinawan ng BIR na hindi in aid of legislation ang impeachment hearing
01:31nagbanta pa ang ehensya na babawiin na lang ang mga dokumento.
01:36If the committee says that this is not in aid of legislation
01:41then Section 20A will not apply
01:45and therefore, what we will do Madam Chair is to withdraw our submission.
01:53Madam Chair, this has been submitted already.
01:57I'd rather keep this.
02:00Sa huli, hindi binuksan ng kahon pero maiiwan ito sa camera.
02:05You are so near yet, you're so far.
02:09Madam Chair.
02:10The BIR apparently complied with the subpoena by bringing to us this sealed box.
02:16But because of that issue of confidentiality, we cannot open the box.
02:21Pag-uusapan na lang daw ito sa mga susunod na pagdinig.
02:26Sumalang din ang Anti-Money Laundering Council o AMLAC sa House Committee on Justice.
02:31Yes, there are suspicious transactions and covered transactions found in our system, database or record.
02:37Covered transactions ang tawag sa mga transaksyong aabot ng mahigit 500,000 pesos.
02:44Suspicious transactions naman ang anumang halaga ng transaksyon na may dahilan para pagdudahan.
02:50Ayon sa AMLAC, may mahigit 600 suspicious at covered transactions sa bank accounts ng Bise at kanyang asawa mula 2005
03:00hanggang 2026.
03:02Umaabot ito sa 6.77 billion pesos.
03:06Mahigit 3.7 billion pesos na halaga ng transaksyon ang dumaan sa mga account ni Duterte.
03:13Halos 3 bilyong piso naman sa account ni Carpio.
03:16Attorney, to be clear, did you only initiate these reports because of this impeachment?
03:26No, Madam Chair.
03:28We have, and AMLAC has always been in constant monitoring of all the transactions.
03:34And while we have generated a latest one, all the data have been as far as back as early years.
03:41Hindi po kami namimili ng personality. Ang tinitignan po namin dito ay yung data at yung numbers.
03:47Sabi pa ng AMLAC, milyong-milyong piso ang halaga ng halos lahat ng transaksyong inireport sa kanila.
03:54Puna ng isang miyembro ng kumite, hindi tugma sa sal e ni Duterte ang mga transaksyong dumaan sa kanyang bank
04:02accounts.
04:02Halimbawa, noong 2009, kung kailan vice mayor pa siya ng Davao, nagdeklara noon ang mahigit 18 milyon pesos na net
04:11worth si Duterte.
04:13Pero ang flag transactions na dumaan sa kanyang bank accounts umabot ng halos 705 milyon pesos.
04:20Base pa sa AMLAC report, sa mga flag transactions na dumaan sa account ni Carpio, pinakamalaking halaga ang naitala noong
04:282024 na umabot sa mahigit 1.8 milyon pesos.
04:34Nakasaad din sa AMLAC report, mula August 2024 hanggang January 2026,
04:40naging subject si Duterte ng 27 confidential reports na nagsasaad ng kadudadudang aktibidad,
04:47kabilang ang drug trafficking, graft and corrupt practices, at malversation of public funds.
04:54Kung na yan sa mga lumabas sa House Quad Committee hearings at sa impeachment complaints na inihain laban sa vice.
05:01Puna pa ng ilang miyembro ng kumite sa mga sal e ni Duterte.
05:05Mula ang 2019 hanggang 2024, walang iniulat si Vice President Sara Duterte na cash on hand and in banks sa
05:13kanyang sal e.
05:14Pero may iniulat sa AMLAC o Anti-Money Laundering Council na covered at suspicious transactions sa mga bank account ng
05:22bise sa mga taong iyon.
05:24At noong 2019 at 2024, kahit na singko po, wala po siyang dineklara na cash at saka cash on hand.
05:32Tama po ba?
05:33Based on the submitted, Sal, and Your Honor, wala pong nakalagay na cash on hand or bank deposits.
05:40Kahit singko po.
05:44Wala pong nakalagay, Your Honor.
05:48E di wow.
05:48Ang biglaan at tuloy-tuloy na pagkawala ng deklarasyon ng liquid assets because cash on hand and cash in bank
05:59are liquid assets.
06:00Sa kabila ng dati meron naman na mga halaga ng mga cash on hand, cash in bank, ay nagdudulot ng
06:08pagdududa sa kawastuhan at kabuuan ng subsequent sal ends ni VP Sara.
06:13Taliwas po sa kanilang patuloy na pagtanggi, lumabas na active pa ang account. Nakapag-deposit po tayo ng 448 pesos
06:23doon sa isang account na ito.
06:25Si Congressman Paulo Marcoleta, kinwestiyon ng pagpapasabpina sa mga naturang sal end.
06:31Let me state on record that the sal ends discussed were not attached in the original complaints.
06:38Hindi po sila kasama sa original complaints.
06:41And using the sal ends as a starting point without necessary predicate evidence supports the position
06:49that the investigation of the House of Representatives Committee on Justice is a fishing expedition.
06:57Paano niya nasabi yun? Kasama eh.
06:59Ito, nabasahin ko.
07:02Vice President Sara Duterte committed culpable violation of the Constitution and betrayed the public trust in amassing unexplained wealth
07:14and failing to disclose all her properties and interest in properties in her sal end.
07:21Nagalagay po sa complaint.
07:25Pinuna rin ang isang miyembro ng House Committee on Justice kung hindi raw ba lumalabag sa Bank Secrecy Law
07:31ang pagtalakay ng komite sa bank transactions ng vice at kanyang asawa.
07:36I'm concerned with where we are going right now.
07:39We will now be discussing from the statements of the AMLAC representative bank accounts.
07:48And I'm worried that the discussion might lead somewhere na pinagbabawal ng Bank Secrecy Law.
07:57For the record, the coverage of Bank Secrecy Law and for the guidance of the members are bank officials and
08:05employees and bank records.
08:07And the chair is of the opinion that the subject matter of our subpoena is apparently not covered by the
08:17protection of the Bank Secrecy Law.
08:20We cannot use the Bank Secrecy Law as a shield to allow public officials to hide behind.
08:28Klarong-klaro po, ang pinag-uusapan natin sa isang impeachment case ay pananagutan at kailangan maging transparent ang lahat ng
08:37mga public officials.
08:39Tanong naman ang isang mambabatas.
08:41Pag suspicious yung transaction, ibig bang sabihin na ito ay illegal na or unlawful na?
08:49Para kasing ganun lumalabas, pag ito ay tinag na suspicious, agad-agad itong piniprejudge na as if it's an illegal
08:59or unlawful transaction.
09:01I want to be clarified on that, Madam Chair.
09:03That is a manifestation which does not require any answer.
09:07Ganun yun. So basta labas-pasok, labas-pasok, nag-a-add to.
09:11So it doesn't mean na pagka sinabi natin may 3.9 billion, does it mean na mayroong 3.9 billion
09:19sa loob ng account?
09:22Hindi ko po, kung based lang po sa records, hindi ko pa po masabi.
09:27Pero maaaring ganun.
09:30Theoretically, possibly po yung sinasabi.
09:32Hindi ulit dumalo sa pagdinigang bise.
09:35Ayon sa kanyang defense team, minonitor nila ang impeachment proceedings pero wala pa silang opisyal na pahayag.
09:42Nagpadala rin ang mensahe ang GMA News sa bisepresidente pero wala pa siyang tugon sa ngayon.
09:49Ito ang unang balita. Tina Panganiban Perez para sa GMA News.
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