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00:08I think we have to get back to basics with our food and where it's going to come from in
00:15the future.
00:16Honestly, I think some people think there's cheeseburger trees.
00:23Oh my God, that would be so good.
00:27Oh yes, can I get a tree with no cheese?
00:33I think the future has to be agrarian.
00:36People have the potential in them to really find beauty and happiness in all this, because I certainly have.
00:45I wish I could fake her eye.
00:46I wish I could fake her eye.
00:50Call out the instigator.
00:55Because there's something in the air.
01:01We got to get together sooner or later.
01:05Because the revolution's here.
01:11And you know it's why.
01:19We have got to get it together now.
01:30The tomato, or pre-ketchup as I call it, kind of a gateway drug to the garden.
01:39Enticing, beautiful.
01:41Easy to grow, but are they?
01:45It's a very complex, wonderful fruit or vegetable.
01:51Walk this way.
01:52I don't know what the f*** I'm doing.
01:56Hi, what's your name?
01:57Araya.
01:58Araya, I really like your name.
02:00My name is Zach.
02:01Which means Doug in Greek.
02:06How old are you, Dallas?
02:07Six.
02:08You're six?
02:10Guess how old I am.
02:12Nine.
02:14You think I look nine?
02:16Oh man, I like you, Dallas.
02:17Do you like tomatoes?
02:20This will be a good interview.
02:21You like tomatoes.
02:23How often do you eat tomatoes?
02:24About every single day.
02:27Do you say tomato or tomato?
02:29Tomato.
02:30Ooh, fancy.
02:33Yes.
02:33Let's talk about the things you can make with tomatoes.
02:36Fake blood.
02:38Ketchup.
02:39Pizza sauce.
02:40Make your teeth red.
02:42You can make your teeth red with tomatoes.
02:44You certainly can.
02:45Scrum people's eyes.
02:47What?
02:49Yeah, that's another thing you can do with tomatoes.
02:51I'm missing lunch.
02:53What is that supposed to be?
02:54You'd rather be at lunch right now instead of talking to me?
02:57I want to eat my lunch.
02:59Do you think I could have a little bit of it?
03:06Your face changes, right?
03:10It's kind of hard to talk about tomatoes, isn't it?
03:13You know who Justin Bieber is?
03:15You know who Harry Styles is?
03:16Are they creepy people?
03:22I thought this was an interview, but I think it is just a staring contest.
03:34I'm worried.
03:35What else do you want to talk about?
03:40Bugs.
03:42Bugs?
03:43Okay.
03:45Ooh.
03:48Oh, got it.
03:49Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
03:51Oh, hi.
03:52Hi.
03:52What's your name?
03:53Sebastian.
03:54Hey, Sebastian.
03:54I'm Zach.
03:55Nice to meet you.
03:56Yeah, have a seat.
03:57Oh, my God.
03:58It's cold.
03:59Yes.
03:59Let's talk real quick, okay?
04:01Do you like tomatoes?
04:02No.
04:02Okay, good.
04:03Segment's over.
04:04You don't like tomatoes either?
04:05Okay.
04:08What vegetables do you like?
04:10Apples and oranges.
04:11Okay, those are fruits.
04:12Okay, we gotta go.
04:14Okay, how many pounds of tomatoes do the average American eat a year?
04:18Say 22 to 24.
04:1922.
04:2022.
04:21Yeah, 22.
04:22Fruit or vegetable or tomato?
04:23No.
04:24That's right.
04:25Are they green or red tomatoes?
04:27Red.
04:28Trick question.
04:28They can be green.
04:30God, this umbrella's breaking.
04:31What else, Sebastian?
04:32I don't know.
04:33Are you cold?
04:34Yes.
04:35Wow, Sebastian.
04:37Great.
04:39Hold and grab the feathers.
04:41Sorry.
04:41Crazy.
04:42No.
05:04I don't want to blooperize this.
05:06No bloops.
05:07Why not?
05:08Because my whole career is a blooper reel.
05:11Okay, today we are going to go visit Royann and Sylvain.
05:20And sometimes they're a little too know-it-all and tried to tell the host what he fudged up.
05:28They're tomato growers at Stellar Raven Ecological Farm.
05:34Hi.
05:35Good afternoon.
05:37Is it okay if I trespass?
05:39Totally.
05:40How are you?
05:40I'm Zach.
05:41Good afternoon, Zach.
05:42Welcome to Stellar Raven Farm.
05:44Thanks for having us.
05:46What a beautiful garden.
05:48Ugh.
05:52Well, this is a lot of work, though.
05:55It is.
05:55But with a garden this size, if you don't like dirt under your fingernails, you're in the wrong business.
06:00Okay.
06:01Without sounding stupid, what is a tomato?
06:04I was just having this argument with a small child where they were trying to tell me that it was
06:07a vegetable.
06:08It's a fruit.
06:10Anything that has its seeds is a fruit.
06:12So a cabbage, if you're just eating the leaves, that's a vegetable.
06:16Tomato has seeds in it, most of them, that is a fruit.
06:20Okay, good.
06:20Well, it's always nice to win an argument with a five-year-old.
06:23Okay, so what do we got here?
06:25What is the baseline for good tomato plant soil?
06:28If you want a good production of tomato, you need to have a porous soil because this pot will have
06:33to fill up with roots.
06:35And the more roots you have, the more tomatoes you're going to have.
06:38It's really clumpy, clay-like.
06:41It can't penetrate, and it won't go anywhere.
06:44So these are our seeds.
06:45This is a two-inch pot.
06:47Put good soil in it.
06:48Fill it up.
06:49Make sure it's wet.
06:50And then when you know that it's wet, you take four seeds, and you just slightly put them in there,
06:55and just put it so it's slightly under the surface.
06:58That's it.
06:59So why do you think I plant so many in one pot when my objective is only to get one
07:05tomato per pot?
07:07You're careless.
07:11Okay, don't, listen.
07:12A good answer.
07:13There's a huge amount of competition going on here, and it's choosing the best one that will give you the
07:18most tomatoes.
07:19So let's say this guy wins.
07:21You'll just get rid of these.
07:23You take a scissors and cut it.
07:24Just cut it so it can't.
07:25And you leave the roots in there because the tomato, they have found out, does better when the roots are
07:31left in there.
07:31Oh, wow.
07:34So when the tomato gets about this big on its second true leaf, then it's ready to go into a
07:41gallon pot.
07:42When your tomato in your gallon pot, you know, it's pretty big, and you can see roots are coming out
07:48the bottom,
07:48then you would put that tomato at the very bottom of this pot.
07:53Bury that plant.
07:54Just leave a little bit because coming out of the plant everywhere will be roots.
07:59Wait, wait, wait.
08:00Wait.
08:01Here's, wait a second.
08:03Get a gallon pot.
08:04When they get about this size, put it all the way down.
08:06Yeah?
08:07Don't put soil in it.
08:08No, no, no.
08:09Put it all the way down.
08:09And then you'll get a massive root production.
08:11Is that common?
08:13I mean, should I know that as a gardener?
08:15I'm sorry.
08:16I'm a dumbass.
08:17So this is it.
08:17And we'll just use this as an example.
08:19When the tomato is larger, you can imagine this is the tomato you're transplanting.
08:23So when you put it in the ground, you bury it as deep as you can.
08:26And now all of this material will produce more roots.
08:29I feel like a moron.
08:30So your tomato pot will be just solid roots in the end.
08:33How did that not?
08:33So even if you have leaves on the stem, take the leaves off and bury it as deep as you
08:38can.
08:38This seems like a prank.
08:40It's a game changer.
08:41I can't believe that.
08:43Sorry.
08:44It's time for my nap.
08:48So if people could understand roots more, they would understand their garden a lot more,
08:53wouldn't they?
08:53Oh, yes.
08:54That's kind of the...
08:55That's the whole game.
08:57That's the game of it.
08:58That's right.
08:59How often do you water these troughs here?
09:01Just out of curiosity.
09:02Well, when it's hot every day, right?
09:04And the troughs are a great way to monitor water usage.
09:07Oh, yeah.
09:08You know, I can see that there's water in there.
09:10So the minute I see it dry, you can just add some more.
09:13Any potted plant, this is a better...
09:16Yes.
09:17Here, now your job.
09:19Okay.
09:19You don't have to just look pretty.
09:20You've got to put some in there.
09:22Okay.
09:24Okay, never water from the top.
09:25Is that across the line for new plants, would you say?
09:29Or are you saying just for tomatoes, you don't do the top?
09:31I would say for all...
09:32For all plants.
09:33Yeah, especially young plants.
09:34That's all I've done my whole life is water from the top.
09:36Every time you water from the top, what are you doing to the soil?
09:39Yeah, yeah.
09:40It's the physics of it.
09:41You're actually pushing it down and compressing it.
09:43Oh, God.
09:45That's okay.
09:45I feel very shamed.
09:47I've learned more in this last five minutes about tomato growing.
09:50This is...
09:52This is blowing my mind.
09:54Look at this thing.
09:55Before we go over, this is the...
09:58It's a bit ugly.
09:59I had a growth in my ankle like this once.
10:04I tell you, I like tomatoes.
10:06I'll eat them.
10:07Sometimes I don't like them raw.
10:09These are delicious.
10:11He made you want to cry.
10:12Gosh.
10:14So this one is a low-acid yellow tomato.
10:17Look at that.
10:17That is a beautiful specimen.
10:20Oh, that's sweet.
10:21So it's low-acid, eh?
10:23And it's low-acid.
10:24Right.
10:24Boy, that's good.
10:25Anyone else want to try out there?
10:27Guys, please.
10:28Here we go.
10:29That's one of the sweetest big tomatoes, other than a cherry, I've ever had.
10:33So you have a choice of two types of tomatoes.
10:36One is a bush type.
10:38The bush type is also called determinate.
10:44In which most of all the tomatoes will be formed at the same time.
10:49And these tomatoes will probably be finished within a next week or two and the plant will die.
10:56And the other type of tomato is the vine type.
10:58These are indeterminate or vine tomatoes.
11:06And it's called indeterminate because the production starts from the bottom to the top.
11:11You can see it's very easy here.
11:13You know, this is ripening.
11:14Yellow, yellow.
11:16And then you get into green and green.
11:18And this is still flowers forming.
11:19This is the viney-winey.
11:22The viney-winey is the future of tomatoes.
11:25So explain to us the future of tomatoes.
11:26Why is this?
11:28Things are heating up.
11:29And the viney-winey doesn't mind 140 degrees in the greenhouse.
11:33And in fact, it tastes, improves the hotter it gets.
11:39The viney-winey is something you developed.
11:41Exactly.
11:42Over how many years?
11:43I think it's on its seventh year now.
11:46Oh, let me just bite into it.
11:47Stand back, people.
11:48Stand back.
11:50Mmm.
11:51Boy, that's juicy.
11:55That's better than the other ones.
11:57Oh, yeah.
11:57It's a wicked tomato, eh?
11:59It tastes like an apple.
12:00This is unbelievable.
12:03That was...
12:04Those tomatoes improved each time.
12:07The one you...
12:07First one you gave me, excellent.
12:09The second one, groundbreaking.
12:10That, I may come here tonight and steal a bunch of them.
12:15No.
12:16The dog sleeps in here, so it just...
12:17That's where we have the dog.
12:18I didn't have told you that.
12:19I'll bring my children.
12:20They'll get them.
12:20They do most of my thieving.
12:22They do a lot of my shoplifting.
12:26What are you going to do with all these freaking tomatoes?
12:30Salsa.
12:32Amazing.
12:32Can I just say, off the record,
12:34seeing you guys hold hands to the garden,
12:37that's what does it to humans, right?
12:39Like, the garden's good for us.
12:42Yeah.
12:42It can be a lifesaver.
12:44Do you sell to grocery stores?
12:45Do you do all that?
12:46We do the farmer's market.
12:47You do the farmer's market.
12:48Yeah.
12:48When it comes to tomatoes,
12:49the average customer wants to buy red round.
12:51They want to buy baseballs that are red.
12:53Most of the stuff that they sell in the supermarket,
12:55the primary consideration for growing the tomato
12:58is how well it travels.
13:00That's the American way, man.
13:02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:03It ain't what's on the inside,
13:05it's what's on the outside.
13:06Yeah, exactly.
13:07It's a hard job convincing somebody
13:09into buying a yellow tomato
13:10or a heirloom tomato that's all deformed.
13:13But once you got them hooked,
13:14they'll buy them every time
13:15because they realize the flavors
13:17are so phenomenally different and better
13:19than what you get at the supermarket.
13:21I'm very inspired by you.
13:23I want to thank you guys for letting us come out.
13:26And those are the best tomatoes I've ever had.
13:29And I'm not saying that because I'm on camera.
13:31These are simply the best I've ever had.
13:34I know.
13:35You don't have to be so cocky about this, Royanne.
13:38God, are they good.
13:57In the 18th century,
13:59rich Europeans feared tomatoes.
14:01Aristocrats were dying after eating them,
14:04dubbing tomatoes poison apples.
14:07But as it turned out,
14:09the real danger was the acidic tomatoes
14:11were absorbing lead from their fancy pewter plates.
14:14So they were eating lead tomatoes.
14:17If you think this is going to stop me
14:19from eating pewter,
14:20you can forget it.
14:28How old are you?
14:29God.
14:30You're the idiot.
14:32Yeah, but I just do it to see if anyone laughs.
14:34I'm not doing it because I think it's funny.
14:41Remember, the future's agrarian.
14:48Hey, I thought you were leaving.
14:55I left.
14:57Bye, you guys.
15:21Okay, good.
15:24Whoa, fancy.
15:29See you.
15:29Bye.
15:37You
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