00:00All right, we have a Fox News alert. James Brennan and James Comey are likely regretting
00:04going all in on the Russia hoax now because DOJ sources are telling Fox Digital that the
00:09FBI indeed has launched a criminal investigation into the former CIA director and former FBI
00:15director for potential wrongdoing related to the Trump-Russia probe and all the alleged
00:20false statements made to Congress. The full scope of the investigation is unclear right
00:25now, but two sources describe the FBI's view of the duo's interactions as, quote, a conspiracy.
00:32Here to break it down, Jonathan Turley, George Washington University law prof and Fox News
00:37contributor. Jonathan, we've been hearing for some time about Brennan's alleged perjury over
00:44his role in the Steele dossier and the advancement of that and perhaps understanding that that was
00:51not credible. Your reaction tonight to this stunning development? Well, it's obviously a major
00:58development. These are two of the top people in the American intelligence system, and there have
01:04been these long unanswered questions about what they told Congress. At points, they both seem to
01:10adopt the Sgt. Schultz approach of I knew nothing. If only I knew I would have done something that
01:18didn't strike many as being very credible. Both of these tend to be somewhat of micromanagers. They
01:24take pride in the fact that they followed the details of their departments. And it all comes down,
01:31particularly to a period in 2017, an intelligence community assessment, an ICA, that went out and
01:40viewed the Steele dossier, that infamous dossier funded by the Clinton campaign as credible. And that, in fact,
01:49Steele was credible. They knew that was not true. The CIA had already said that it had great misgivings about
01:56the Steele dossier. Even though the Clinton campaign was denying to reporters that it funded the dossier, it was in
02:05fact
02:05funded through the law firm of the Clinton campaign used. And so there's a lot of questions here as to
02:14why particularly Comey, for example, signed off on these FISA warrants, these secret court warrants, to conduct
02:21this surveillance. The other thing, by the way, they knew very early on was that Carter Page, who was such
02:27a
02:27significant figure in the Steele dossier and the whole Russian hoax, was not only not a Russian spy,
02:35but was actually a CIA asset. And so the CIA told the FBI, you're on the wrong road here. You're
02:42going
02:43after someone who is assisting us. All of that somehow got buried. And what came to the surface
02:50was the Steele dossier, which was not only not verified, it had been really shredded by many
02:57people in the Intelligence Committee. Yeah. And Comey claimed that it was Papadopoulos, that
03:02poor old, poor hapless kid. Papadopoulos, his interactions with the Russians started the whole
03:09thing. It was long before the dossier. But this was Comey testifying back in 2020 about this. Watch.
03:15It was done by the book. It was appropriate. And it was essential that it be done.
03:21Okay. So you're proud of it?
03:25Overall, I'm proud of the work. There's no indication, and the inspector general would say
03:29it if he found it, that people were doing bad things on purpose. But that doesn't make it any
03:33less concerning. This was an investigation that was appropriately predicated and opened that had to
03:39be opened. Jonathan, it had to be opened. Supercilious doesn't begin to describe
03:45him. So dismissive.
03:47Now, I remember listening to that testimony and just almost falling out of my chair. I mean,
03:52virtually everything he said was untrue. In fact, the IG reports shredded the FBI and said that they
03:59didn't follow protocol, that they ignored counterintelligence, that they pushed the Steele
04:05dossier forward. And these were two of the key individuals who did that. So the question is,
04:11does any of this trick the wire to perjury? And both of these are sophisticated players. You'll
04:17notice that they're very careful in how they word this. Comey is very careful to say that there wasn't
04:23basically malicious intent, not that there weren't mistakes. And time and time again, Comey portrayed
04:29himself as ignorant of all of these countervailing sources. Well, and again, the Brennan perjury
04:37questions have been swirling about for years and years. This is like one big flashback for both of
04:43us. Jonathan, thank you very much.
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