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Tobin gets into trade fodder! Miami Heat Legend Goran Dragić does some recruiting on his podcast, "Gogi's Garage," with his first guest...Giannis Antetokounmpo. Tobin backtracks once things get very interesting once a certain location is mentioned by Giannis.
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00:00Goran Dragic has started a podcast called Gogi's Garage.
00:04All right.
00:04Very happy for Goran.
00:06He's the best.
00:08And he had as his first guest, convenient timing,
00:14Giannis Antetokounmpo on the show.
00:17So I listen to this.
00:18You know, they're kicking it around.
00:20They're talking about international ball.
00:21A couple of guys, international legends for their team.
00:23Goran Dragic, of course, a Eurobasket MVP.
00:26And, you know, they're talking about the pressures of being there.
00:29And then all of a sudden, Goran, very interesting,
00:35decides to bring up, hey, man, what's up with those trade rumors this year?
00:40Now, give this clip a little bit of time because this Giannis,
00:43he likes to cover his bases.
00:45He has a lot of things to say.
00:47Like he tries to take every situation and make himself look good,
00:51even though the situation is like, yeah, it's going to get ugly.
00:55Well, this was Goran Dragic.
00:57Watch his Gogi's Garage.
00:59Go subscribe on your podcast platforms because we want to give Gogi some love.
01:03But this was him and Giannis discussing the trade rumors this season.
01:10This season, everything was happening, you know, around you, news, trades, this.
01:17How did you manage, you know, with all this, you know, tripping around the league?
01:22Giannis is going to be traded, Giannis not.
01:24You have a family, you have kids.
01:26And how was it for you, man?
01:29So, I'm going to say two things.
01:30One is that this was the first time that it was, like, real.
01:35Yeah.
01:36You know, like it was a lot.
01:38You know what I'm saying?
01:39And I'm not saying that it was real, that I wanted to trade.
01:41Like, it was, bro, everywhere I went, like in the street, people would tell me,
01:45don't leave, don't do this, don't do that, please stay, this.
01:48Like, you know, it was real.
01:50Like, back in the day, when I was younger, 25, 24, they were always saying this stuff.
01:55Yeah.
01:56But then maybe, like, a week later, it will turn off.
01:59They will talk about a different story.
02:02This year, every day, social media, turn the TV on, first take, ESPN, blah, blah, blah,
02:10this, this, Giannis, Giannis, Giannis, Giannis, Giannis, Giannis.
02:15And what I did, I had my family stay in Greece.
02:20Right.
02:21So, because also I wanted my family to, you know, learn Greek and be around that culture.
02:27So I told them stay there.
02:29Because also there's a lot of uncertainty.
02:31I don't know what's going to happen.
02:33Right.
02:33So I came here, I was locked in, but this was the first time in my MBA career that it
02:38was,
02:39it was everywhere.
02:40It was everywhere.
02:41And I think if I'd ever been in that position, if I could change something,
02:45maybe I'd come out and shut it down.
02:47Because I think people wasn't listening to me.
02:49Like I was saying, like, Giannis, come out and act for a trade.
02:52Giannis, come out and do this, Giannis.
02:54I'm like, first of all, people that I respect and do that I love.
02:58Yeah.
02:58I would have conversations with them.
03:00And I had my coach, my GM, you know, people that I...
03:03You're kind of closed door, of course.
03:04Yeah.
03:05Yeah.
03:05You know, but I kept saying, like, I've said, guys, I'm here.
03:09I'm not going nowhere.
03:10Oh, yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever.
03:12Giannis is going to the Knicks.
03:14Oh, okay.
03:14Two weeks later.
03:15I'm here, guys.
03:16I'm locked in.
03:16I got hurt, but I'm coming back to play here.
03:18Oh, Giannis is going to Miami.
03:20There wasn't listening to what I was saying.
03:22So, you know, if I could turn the time back, I would maybe say, come out a little bit earlier.
03:27It's like, hey, guys, hey, this ends today.
03:30Look at me in my eyes.
03:32I'm staying with Milwaukee until further notices.
03:35Ends today.
03:36Stop, you know, making stories and after stories and after stories.
03:40But, you know, you know how I am.
03:44We are loyal.
03:45We are loyal people.
03:46When people believe in us and people, like, help us and make us, you know, stand on our feet,
03:51it's very hard for you to turn your back.
03:53But at the same time, you're competitive.
03:55You want to win.
03:56Everybody wants to win.
03:58So, you got to make the best decision for yourself.
04:00That's pretty much it.
04:02Can I say something?
04:04You're 31 years old.
04:05So, you need to think about your needs, you know, to be loose.
04:08So, you need warm climate, man.
04:10Hey, Miami is not a bad place, man.
04:14Beautiful, beautiful city.
04:15Beautiful city.
04:16Wow.
04:17Look at this Goran Dragic.
04:20How's he doing more work than you guys are?
04:23I thought you were done with this gentleman from Milwaukee.
04:26Listen, I am done with him.
04:27But, listen, I can't deflect on what Goran Dragic wants.
04:31So, what makes Goran happy makes me happy, Vlad.
04:34So, it's a push-pull.
04:37You know, I have to relent on certain things if it makes the dragon happy.
04:42You know, and so, if it makes the dragon happy, it would make me happy.
04:45Am I done with Giannis' theatrics and his whole flirtation and being 6'11 Bradley Beal?
04:51Yes, it's very annoying.
04:52I mean, like, even in that clip, he's like, you know, oh, I should have shut it down.
04:56I should have put a rest to it.
04:57No, you didn't.
04:58No, you didn't.
05:00You went, you did one interview one day, and then the next day, you said a completely different thing.
05:04You just did it in that same interview.
05:06In three minutes, you went from saying, I should have shut it down.
05:09But, man, Miami.
05:11Woo-hoo!
05:12What a city.
05:14He can't help himself.
05:15He loves it.
05:16But, I do appreciate Goran Dragic going out there and doing yeoman's work to try and make some moves and
05:25make something happen.
05:27Something happen!
05:31So, I appreciate that from Goran.
05:35How could you not?
05:37He's sitting there going, boink!
05:40I want that warm weather, huh?
05:41I mean, there's a lot of warm cities, you know.
05:44Not this warm.
05:45Yeah.
05:48Not this warm.
05:49Hey.
05:50Oh, there actually isn't.
05:51I mean, is there a place that you can go to that's warmer?
05:55Hey.
05:55What?
05:56He loves Disney.
05:58Your mindset over this Giannis thing is basically about, like, South Florida weather.
06:03It could be sunny in the morning and raining and pouring in the evening.
06:09And that's you.
06:10I'm just going out with you.
06:11I'm not even commenting no more because you have said,
06:15for the longest time, I'm out on Giannis.
06:18And now you have the audacity, the audacity to come at us with, well, if Goran wants him.
06:27Oh, it makes Goran happy.
06:28It makes me happy.
06:29What do you want me to do?
06:31I'm supposed to crush his dream.
06:33Why are you hiding behind a caveat?
06:36I'm not hiding behind a caveat.
06:38He's my faves.
06:38Oh, you're not?
06:39He's my faves.
06:40You said I don't want him.
06:41And then you say if Goran wants him, I want him.
06:43If Goran wants him, what am I supposed to do?
06:44Not want him?
06:46Okay.
06:47You know Goran.
06:48I mean, he could sell ice to an Eskimo.
06:50Let me tell you.
06:51He's that kind of.
06:52How are you going to go up to there?
06:54I'm a bit disappointed by your petty.
06:57Your petty has been slipping late.
06:59You've been a flip-flopping floozy when it's come to get in these places.
07:06Oh, triple F.
07:07Dude, you're pointless petty.
07:08Like, you have a petty with no ends to a means.
07:10It's ridiculous.
07:12You want to sit here blowing yourself up.
07:14If you leave because you don't want to be down here, I hope you lose.
07:18Simple as that.
07:19Great.
07:19Not if you get traded, but if you cause chaos to get out of here,
07:24when you get to your new place, that is a team that I no longer root for.
07:29Simple as that.
07:30It's simple.
07:30It's simple.
07:31We've been there.
07:36You're contradicting my town.
07:38I'm not contradicting.
07:39I'm tired of Giannis' act.
07:41I don't like it.
07:42It's annoying.
07:44Nobody.
07:44I will say this.
07:45Nobody believes him at this point.
07:47You know, not even the shine of Goran Dragic could make you believe that he's upset by all of this.
07:52He's not upset by all of it.
07:53The only thing he's probably upset by is he hasn't been traded yet.
07:56That's the only thing that's annoyed him.
07:58All right.
07:58That's fine.
07:59You know?
08:00But Goran Dragic, he says the right things here.
08:02You know?
08:03Can I say something?
08:05You're 31 years old.
08:07So you need to think about your needs, you know, to be loose.
08:10So you need warm climate, man.
08:12Hey, Miami's not a bad place, man.
08:15Beautiful, beautiful city.
08:17Beautiful city.
08:18Man.
08:18All right.
08:18So, okay.
08:19Here's the thing.
08:20I'm going to shoot you a little bell.
08:22Shoot you a little bell.
08:25All Goran said, he insinuated, but he never mentioned the city.
08:31Giannis is the one that jumped, jumped and said Miami.
08:35Because there's a lot of other warm cities.
08:39Arizona.
08:39Phoenix is warm.
08:41Golden State could be warm sometimes.
08:45You know.
08:46Orlando is warm.
08:49Texas.
08:50This place, Dallas.
08:52It could be warm.
08:53I mean, he has a little cold, but he never mentioned.
08:57He never just said you need warm weather.
08:59He never mentioned the city.
09:00Think of your knees.
09:01He said, think of your knees.
09:02Giannis is the one that jumped and said, oh, Miami's a beautiful city.
09:06I love it.
09:06So, so that's why.
09:09But, Mr. Tovin.
09:11What?
09:12You did say.
09:15December of 2025.
09:18I'm sick of Giannis.
09:20I said.
09:22Yeah.
09:22What?
09:23Dude, don't act like you can't remember.
09:26Hard to say.
09:28No, it ain't hard to say.
09:31I said that.
09:32Oh, my goodness.
09:34Oh, my.
09:34See.
09:35And this is why.
09:36I was sick of it.
09:38It seems a bit strong for something for me to say that I'd be sick of Giannis.
09:44The only way Giannis Antetokounmpo is getting back in my good graces is if he saved Sonny
09:49Bunny from a fire.
09:53Minus one.
09:54Why?
09:54Because you just got caught.
09:57Well, how was I supposed to know?
09:59I also knew back in December, Goran Dragic was going to have a podcast.
10:03We got two.
10:04We got two very good ones coming in.
10:07The Gaslight Gladiator.
10:08Wait a minute.
10:09Wait a minute.
10:09Wait a minute.
10:11Trust me.
10:12Back in December.
10:13And he was out.
10:14He was out in February as well.
10:16If I knew back in December that Goran Dragic was going to have a podcast and his first
10:22guest was going to be Giannis, I would have put two options there, which would have been
10:25the only way Giannis is going to get back in my good graces is if he saves Sonny Bunny
10:29from a fire and or goes on a podcast with Goran Dragic and says how much Miami would
10:35help his knees.
10:37Giannis.
10:41Look, he's still not coming here.
10:43I just want to be clear with that.
10:44Dude, why?
10:45He's not coming here.
10:46So I'm not even worried about it.
10:48You ain't got no shame either.
10:50What do you mean?
10:51No shame.
10:52What is there to be a shame?
10:53The evidence has been placed in front of you and you're still trying to caveat cowboy out
10:59of it.
11:00As Giannis has said, I'm a human, okay?
11:04People and humans can change their opinion.
11:06Oh, really?
11:07That's just how it is.
11:08Sometimes the facts change.
11:09How did the facts change?
11:11Goran Dragic had him on a podcast.
11:13That's it?
11:13So it's not even something he said or the circumstance surrounding him getting out of
11:17there.
11:18He was like, Miami is a beautiful place.
11:22Still is.
11:23Oh my goodness.
11:25What am I supposed to do?
11:26Crush Goran Dragic's dreams?
11:28No.
11:29But you can still be consistent with your beliefs there.
11:32I don't want Giannis.
11:33I am consistent.
11:34Listen, he is beneficial.
11:36Now, I even gave you a way out, okay?
11:40You're like, look, I don't want Giannis, and you've said this.
11:44I don't want Giannis, but if the Heat get him, I'm going to root for the Heat.
11:48Of course.
11:49I have to accept that fraudulence right there.
11:51It's not fraudulent.
11:52It's fraudulence.
11:53It's not fraudulent.
11:54Okay, but you have taken it to a whole different level here.
11:58That's true.
11:59We have a montage.
11:59Wait, we actually played sound.
12:05We have a montage.
12:06And you'll still dismiss it.
12:07Your own voice.
12:09Who does that?
12:10We got evidence.
12:16They put music to this.
12:18You asked me the same question last year, Eric.
12:20Okay.
12:21Do you get a promotion every year on your job?
12:25No, right?
12:25So every year you work is a failure.
12:27Yes or no?
12:28No.
12:29Every year you work, you work towards something, towards a goal.
12:33Oh, yeah.
12:34This was a whopper for me.
12:34To get a promotion, to be able to take care of your family, to be able, I don't know,
12:39provide the house for them or take care of your parents.
12:42You work towards a goal.
12:43It's not a failure.
12:44It's steps to success.
12:46There's always steps to it.
12:48You know, Michael Jordan played 15 years, won six championships.
12:54The other nine years was a failure.
12:55That's what you're telling me.
12:58You made a montage.
12:59I didn't make that.
13:00Yes, you did.
13:01Frog Boy made that.
13:01But you supported it.
13:02I don't have any say of what Frog Boy puts together.
13:05You co-signed it.
13:06Look, it was a ridiculous statement from him back in the day.
13:09But you co-signed it.
13:10It's a step to success to get gentlemen swept in the first round.
13:14What the hell kind of a logic is that?
13:16You want to talk about caveat cowboy.
13:18Wait, wait, wait.
13:19We're talking about you.
13:20This is not about Giannis.
13:21Giannis being Giannis.
13:22But you have also been flip-flopping.
13:25And then going to get at Giannis for flip-flopping.
13:28He's like, listen, as I've said many times, the Heat are going to go after Giannis.
13:32It's not like Pat Riley is going to listen to my opinion on this.
13:36He's going to go after Giannis.
13:37So I do have to get ready for the situation of Giannis is going to be on the Miami Heat.
13:42Do I think it's going to happen?
13:43No.
13:43The dude hasn't reeled in a whale in years.
13:47So believe it when I see it.
13:49But I do appreciate.
13:50One thing I will say, you can call this fraudulence or not.
13:53I don't really care.
13:54But I can appreciate good croutin.
13:56And what Goran Dragic was doing was good croutin.
14:01That's it.
14:02Stage one.
14:03Stage one is denial.
14:05I'm not denying anything, though.
14:07You are denying the fact that you said you didn't want Giannis.
14:10I'm not denying it.
14:11And now all of a sudden you flip-flopped to the other side.
14:14Nope.
14:14I did not.
14:16You still don't want Giannis.
14:18If he comes here, he comes here.
14:19What am I going to do?
14:20That wasn't the question.
14:21That wasn't the question.
14:22The question is, do you want Giannis?
14:25So you need to think about your needs, you know, to be loose.
14:29So you need warm climate, man.
14:31Hey, Miami's not a bad place, man.
14:34Beautiful, beautiful city.
14:35Beautiful city.
14:36Yeah.
14:36What am I supposed to do with that?
14:38I'm just supposed to ignore it?
14:41Sorry.
14:44Yeah, you can ignore it.
14:46I can't ignore it.
14:48That's not the job.
14:49It sounds like a congressman.
14:51Yeah, that's fake news.
14:52It's not fake news.
14:54Obviously, it's real news.
14:55Now, will he, if he went on the roommates podcast with Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart, will
15:01he, you know, talk about how awesome?
15:02Probably because he's a chameleon.
15:04That's what he likes to do.
15:05He likes to just make everybody happy.
15:06Why are you falling for it, Dan?
15:08I'm not.
15:09I'm just happy that Goran Dragic is out here trying.
15:14You know, what I need is I need somebody associated with the Miami Heat to give a rat's ass.
15:21Because right now, down at 601 Biscayne Boulevard, they have been stuck in mud.
15:27They haven't done squad douche to get this team back to where it's supposed to be.
15:32And you have Goran Dragic here sitting in his garage with a podcast, actually trying to make things happen.
15:39Actually trying to move and shake.
15:42If Tobin was a congressman, he'd be Marco Ruby Tuesday.
15:50Do I have Ruby Tuesdays anymore?
15:52I don't think so.
15:54I haven't seen a Ruby Tuesday around anyway.
15:56I know.
15:56I couldn't tell the difference.
15:58Like, some of them look alike.
15:59Ruby Tuesday and what was the other one?
16:02They closed a lot of them, too.
16:03What, Bennigan's?
16:05No.
16:05Huh?
16:06Bennigan's.
16:07Not Bennigan's.
16:09I used to always get them mixed up.
16:11Oh, I can't think of the name.
16:12How I think of it.
16:14A guy going by Trump Epstein Files says, Tobin is a paid propagandist by the Miami Heat media.
16:19No other way to describe it.
16:21It's interesting.
16:22Yes.
16:22Friday.
16:23Friday is it.
16:24Yeah, Friday is still available.
16:26Yeah.
16:28I think there's one by the movie co.
16:31What was the movie co on Sheridan Street in Broward?
16:35I saw one in Orlando recently.
16:37It was across from the sea where there was a TGI Fridays.
16:39Still around.
16:40Still there.
16:41Still around.
16:41Is the one in Aventura still there?
16:42That was a hot spot back in the day.
16:45I ain't going to lie now.
16:46Now that you're saying TGI F, I'm kidding.
16:48I tell you what.
16:49TGI F.
16:49Dear restaurants, everybody doesn't survive when you make the money grab with your customers.
16:58Customers, right?
17:00I just want to be clear.
17:00Even that things get smaller, you charge more.
17:04Everybody can't win that battle.
17:05So y'all need to be careful.
17:07Y'all need to be careful because just go ask Chicken Kitchen.
17:11Just ask TGI Fridays.
17:13What happened?
17:15I'm going to tell you exactly what happened.
17:16You started giving smaller portions.
17:19Your burgers got smaller.
17:21And happy hour just wasn't hitting like it used to hit.
17:24Dude's more interested in.
17:25He was more interested in food than Giannis.
17:27Yeah, he's more interested in portion.
17:28Like if I made Giannis.
17:29Because wait.
17:30No, no, no, no, no.
17:31If I made Giannis an appetizer at TGI Fridays.
17:34Oh, he would be all in.
17:34He'd have takes for days.
17:35Oh, dude.
17:35That's not true.
17:36It's 100% true.
17:37If Giannis was a Publix order.
17:40It's 100% true.
17:41Or Publix Wings.
17:42You'd be all in.
17:42Vlad, here's the problem.
17:45Right?
17:46This take on Fridays and whatever is going to go away.
17:50But Toby going to keep flip-flopping with Giannis until the basketball season.
17:55I find what he's doing very annoying.
17:57But I appreciate the effort from Goran Dragic.
17:59The two things can be mutually exclusive.
18:01Okay.
18:01So you're annoyed with Giannis and his constant flirtation.
18:06He just changes with the wind.
18:08And I think the thing that I find the most annoying about him is he sits here and he's like,
18:12How is this all happening?
18:14I should have put a stop to it.
18:16Dude, you literally could have.
18:17But every time that you try to put a stop to it, you do something completely different
18:20a day later to a different reporter.
18:21See, this is the hypocritical.
18:23It's not hypocritical.
18:23No, no, not you.
18:24It's the truth.
18:24Not you, him.
18:25He's being hypocritical.
18:26Right.
18:26Because he wanted to be the hottest chick in the game.
18:28And then now he's saying, oh, every time I wake up, all this ESPN first take is all
18:32about me.
18:33But you wanted that.
18:34That's why you said you were the hottest chick in the game.
18:37So you're not upset with Giannis' constant flirtation.
18:41Listen, you're upset at the fact that he can't just say what he wants.
18:47Biscayne Boulevard over there is not flirting back or hasn't sealed the deal in the flirtation.
18:52Vlad, here's what Goran Draga should have told him, okay?
18:55This is really what Goran should have told him, and he won't tell him on a podcast, but
18:57what he should say off is like, hey, dude, you need to put your stones on the table.
19:02When I wanted out of Phoenix, okay, I said to them, I don't trust Phoenix anymore.
19:10Get me out of here.
19:11And that's Goran.
19:13So you want a stink.
19:14That's what you want.
19:15That's what you're supposed to do.
19:16And this guy wants to make a stink, but Febreze it on the way out.
19:20Like he wants to crop dust, but leave some aerosol.
19:22It's not his fault.
19:23They don't know.
19:24It's not in his nature.
19:25It's not in his character to make a stink like that.
19:28Well, he needs to take some lessons.
19:30You know who he is?
19:32Jimmy Butler.
19:33Yeah, he should take some lessons.
19:35He, I mean, listen, when he left, he brought a tornado through the organization and then
19:41just left and found his happy place.
19:43I mean, I kind of agree with you, but the organization was, whether with Jimmy or without Jimmy, they
19:50stuck in the same situation.
19:51No, I got you.
19:52No, I understand.
19:53I understand that.
19:54It's not really anything was going to change, whether he stayed or not.
19:58Nothing was going to change.
19:59I agree with all that.
20:00I agree with all that.
20:01But I would say that, one, the conversations with Jimmy and all the questions asked of Jimmy,
20:11he's the one that put out there, I'm just going to go out here and ball.
20:16And that lasted for like three seconds.
20:18Yeah, well, if you believed him, you were a sucker.
20:21Okay, but that's why I can keep my petty.
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